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Topic: Least attractive Venus sign for a male?
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KarkaQueen
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posted November 29, 2012 09:23 PM
  
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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
I did say most men... Lol I didn't mean that slim meant skinny... Athletic women can definitely be slim. I've dated men with their Moon in aries, actually more so than any other sign and men with venus in aries and gemini...cap moons as well. None of them seemed to have problems with my body but seemed to like it very much. Wouldn't necessarily call myself slim and def not skinny, but I have a shape and somewhat athletic. Got a bit of a pooch in my belly too.
When I said most men, I meant it in the general sense what men find most aesthetically appealing. So, I think it's too broad a statement to say venus in air men like their women on the slim side...if anything I meant to say the opposite and not true of ALL men in my previous post.Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer Venus in Gemini, Mars in Aquarius
Athletic shape is more like straight body and slight abs right? But didn't men of a certain era love chubby pale brunettes too? of course Slim looks pleasing... so does Curvy.... haha
Idk I disagree with your point but I can't explain well why i DO
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TrueTaurus
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posted November 29, 2012 09:48 PM
Well then I guess you mean from all eras? I don't think men considered the chubby brunette women as we call them now to be chubby or fat. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but, in our era, men tend to think women on the slimmer end to be more attractive...actually, we can say that by the venus aries sign decription, they might care less about the waist hip ratio then a venus in cancer, rather than say that venus in aries likes the tomboyish skinny look. So men care more about the waist hip ratio than whether a girl is slim or curvy. But that's just biology and has less to do with astrology. I did notice that Venus in Aries are attracted to a sassy, opinionated girl who knows wht she wants, as opposed to the Venus in Cancer guy who may prefer the shy, quiet but openly nurtuting type. I think it has more to do with the attitude of the girl than her looks...IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted November 29, 2012 10:03 PM
I agree most men physically seem to be attracted to women with a larger gap of their hip to waist ratio. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 29, 2012 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
I don't like Venus in Capricorn, Cancer and Pisces.
Cap is too restrained, and Cancer and Pisces are too passive.Love Venus in Taurus, Sag, Leo and Libra.
I have Venus in Leo but I'm not a guy. Venus in a guy's chart depends more on the aspects than the sign. Like, if it is in Cancer but is afflicted, it wouldn't be as great as a Venus in Cancer with trines and sextiles.
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aquaguy91
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posted November 29, 2012 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
[b]I don't like Venus in Capricorn, Cancer and Pisces.
Cap is too restrained, and Cancer and Pisces are too passive.Love Venus in Taurus, Sag, Leo and Libra.
I have Venus in Leo but I'm not a guy. Venus in a guy's chart depends more on the aspects than the sign. Like, if it is in Cancer but is afflicted, it wouldn't be as great as a Venus in Cancer with trines and sextiles. [/B][/QUOTE]
what's the difference between an afflicted venus and a well aspected venus in your opinion?
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VenusDiSirius
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posted November 29, 2012 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
I agree most men physically seem to be attracted to women with a larger gap of their hip to waist ratio.
Apparently - 0.7 This was tested on some Amazonian tribes as well,strong reaction to women with certain hip to waist ratio,as if they sense it. Reason - they bear children better.
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KarkaQueen
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posted November 29, 2012 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Apparently - 0.7This was tested on some Amazonian tribes as well,strong reaction to women with certain hip to waist ratio,as if they sense it. Reason - they bear children better.
Yes she said slim so I was assuming women with lean straight bodys and long torso. A thicker woman can have a .07 Waist to hip ratio as myself and my mother younger IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 29, 2012 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
what's the difference between an afflicted venus and a well aspected venus in your opinion?[/B]
Well aspected Venus makes one sociable, friendly, with a sense of balance and fairness. Also, there is charm and a desire for relationships and love. Afflicted, Venus signifies someone who cannot function well in a relationship for whatever reason. He or she never learned how to love another, could be unbalanced or unfair, might not be interested in loving another person, selfishness or might even attract negative energy in his life from types who have similar issues.
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KarkaQueen
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posted November 29, 2012 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
Well then I guess you mean from all eras? I don't think men considered the chubby brunette women as we call them now to be chubby or fat. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but, in our era, men tend to think women on the slimmer end to be more attractive...actually, we can say that by the venus aries sign decription, they might care less about the waist hip ratio then a venus in cancer, rather than say that venus in aries likes the tomboyish skinny look. So men care more about the waist hip ratio than whether a girl is slim or curvy. But that's just biology and has less to do with astrology. I did notice that Venus in Aries are attracted to a sassy, opinionated girl who knows wht she wants, as opposed to the Venus in Cancer guy who may prefer the shy, quiet but openly nurtuting type. I think it has more to do with the attitude of the girl than her looks...
Yes!! That what I was trying to say about the waist and hip ratio, a thicker woman with more curves than a skinny straight bodied one is more attractive to more men.
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VenusDiSirius
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posted November 29, 2012 10:44 PM
One doesn't need to be fuller,thicker in order to have good ratio. Proportion matters,not weight.IP: Logged |
AlwaysHope
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posted November 29, 2012 10:59 PM
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Venus in a guy's chart depends more on the aspects than the sign. Like, if it is in Cancer but is afflicted, it wouldn't be as great as a Venus in Cancer with trines and sextiles.
Could'nt agree with you more "StarlightSmileSupreme", this whole thread has a lot of talk about venus in different signs but little about aspects and house placement, while we are on it, what about those who have retrograde and/or intercepted houses??? Not that I have that, but there is always a lot more to it than just the sign of venus in a mans chart.
For instance, I have Pluto conjunct Uranus conjunct Venus (of course in Virgo, being a child of the mid 1960s)all sextiled by Neptune in Scorpio.. and then do we consider conjunctions of certain planets "afflictions"?
Now that dramatically changes the standard definition of "Venus in Virgo" There is a LOT more to it than cook book interpretations in my opinion. My ex-wife can testify to that... 
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ail221
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posted November 29, 2012 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Apparently - 0.7This was tested on some Amazonian tribes as well,strong reaction to women with certain hip to waist ratio,as if they sense it. Reason - they bear children better.
Yes I know this already its connected to the more unconscious primative need to find the most suitable
mate. One of the reasons more men are attracted to pear shaped women.
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KarkaQueen
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posted November 29, 2012 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
One doesn't need to be fuller,thicker in order to have good ratio. Proportion matters,not weight.
I know, but that was not I was saying. I said a slim curvy woman is more attractive to men than a skinny-slim woman (unless she has a feminine allure and magnetic appeal)... and a thicker curvy woman would be more better than the just chubby "no shape" ones.. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted November 29, 2012 11:43 PM
How about we just leave things at men are attracted to various body types according to their personal preferences there is no need to elevate or de-value any woman's body type.IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
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posted November 29, 2012 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
How about we just leave things at men are attracted to various body types according to their personal preferences there is no need to elevate or de-value any woman's body type.
Yes but I was speaking from an apparent how males personal view are because she said men prefer curvier women in general so i was going along with her hypothesis ok this is getting reptitive and nobody understands what the heck i am saying so lets go on topic again IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 30, 2012 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by AlwaysHope:
Could'nt agree with you more "StarlightSmileSupreme", this whole thread has a lot of talk about venus in different signs but little about aspects and house placement, while we are on it, what about those who have retrograde and/or intercepted houses??? Not that I have that, but there is always a lot more to it than just the sign of venus in a mans chart.
For instance, I have Pluto conjunct Uranus conjunct Venus (of course in Virgo, being a child of the mid 1960s)all sextiled by Neptune in Scorpio.. and then do we consider conjunctions of certain planets "afflictions"?
Now that dramatically changes the standard definition of "Venus in Virgo" There is a LOT more to it than cook book interpretations in my opinion. My ex-wife can testify to that...
My Venus position has been greatly compromised by the planet Saturn which forms a square. It takes away a lot of that Leo warmth and adds a certain chill, I think. Squares and conjunctions between Venus and Saturn add a certain chill and lack of romance to the individual. Hard to explain. It can mean artistic talent too, but difficulty in execution and discipline. There's obstacles surrounding one's art.
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aquaguy91
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posted November 30, 2012 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
what's the difference between an afflicted venus and a well aspected venus in your opinion?
Well aspected Venus makes one sociable, friendly, with a sense of balance and fairness. Also, there is charm and a desire for relationships and love. Afflicted, Venus signifies someone who cannot function well in a relationship for whatever reason. He or she never learned how to love another, could be unbalanced or unfair, might not be interested in loving another person, selfishness or might even attract negative energy in his life from types who have similar issues. [/B][/QUOTE]
I have an afflicted venus and all that stuff you mentioned is externalized for me. I'm a very giving person and I tend to meet selfish women..
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 30, 2012 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
what's the difference between an afflicted venus and a well aspected venus in your opinion?
Well aspected Venus makes one sociable, friendly, with a sense of balance and fairness. Also, there is charm and a desire for relationships and love. Afflicted, Venus signifies someone who cannot function well in a relationship for whatever reason. He or she never learned how to love another, could be unbalanced or unfair, might not be interested in loving another person, selfishness or might even attract negative energy in his life from types who have similar issues. [/B][/QUOTE]
I have an afflicted venus and all that stuff you mentioned is externalized for me. I'm a very giving person and I tend to meet selfish women..[/B][/QUOTE]
It can mean that in the chart of a man but sometimes, it takes all kinds of reflection to figure out exactly what the problems are and how they can be dealt with. Seeing how these patterns emerge and how one keeps falling into the same traps and attracting the types they do not want in their lives.
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JLyn ~
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posted December 01, 2012 04:46 AM
Least- Aries Venus cause they feel you gotta fight for their love, they feed off competition Best- Scorpio Venus cause their love is deep and loyal to a fault, but can get very jealous but I like the reassurance IP: Logged |
Choc
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posted December 01, 2012 05:11 AM
The only thing I got from this thread is that women truly don't know what "most guys want" because 1] most guys just don't care and 2] who gives a flying f*** what they want anyway. It'd be a good start if we started living our lives without the burden of patriarchal BS for once.And on topic, from my experience, Venus in Taurus is pretty damn terrible but certain Moon positions are a lot harder for men to handle. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted December 01, 2012 08:39 AM
 I love my venus in Taurus.. So fukin classic! IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 01, 2012 09:20 AM
Can someone please explain the definition of "detached" and "aloof"? My Venus is in Aquarius. And in the 12th House too. I'm a passionate, highly charged lover who's all over my wife and I crave constant emotional and physical intimacy. In fact, I complain about most women being too frigid and unloving, including those who previously told me that they loved me. So I don't understand any of the descriptions of Venus in Aquarius. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 01, 2012 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Can someone please explain the definition of "detached" and "aloof"? My Venus is in Aquarius. And in the 12th House too. I'm a passionate, highly charged lover who's all over my wife and I crave constant emotional and physical intimacy. In fact, I complain about most women being too frigid and unloving, including those who previously told me that they loved me. So I don't understand any of the descriptions of Venus in Aquarius.
That doesn't surprise me since you are a guy, Venus and the moon both symbolize the women in your life. What sign is the Moon in? It's your wife who is seen as more aloof and detached than you prefer because in a man's chart, Venus refers to what style a woman will love him in. Is your wife more a friend than anything else? Does she prefer to be around a lot of people at once, like at a party? Political and idealistic? She could be in the science related fields or social work. Does she devote more time to causes when you wish she would devote more to you? If you tell me your moon sign I can give you a more complete picture.
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aquaguy91
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posted December 01, 2012 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by Choc:
The only thing I got from this thread is that women truly don't know what "most guys want" because 1] most guys just don't care and 2] who gives a flying f*** what they want anyway. It'd be a good start if we started living our lives without the burden of patriarchal BS for once.And on topic, from my experience, Venus in Taurus is pretty damn terrible but certain Moon positions are a lot harder for men to handle.
what on earth are you talking about?IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted December 01, 2012 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
[b]Can someone please explain the definition of "detached" and "aloof"? My Venus is in Aquarius. And in the 12th House too. I'm a passionate, highly charged lover who's all over my wife and I crave constant emotional and physical intimacy. In fact, I complain about most women being too frigid and unloving, including those who previously told me that they loved me. So I don't understand any of the descriptions of Venus in Aquarius.
That doesn't surprise me since you are a guy, Venus and the moon both symbolize the women in your life. What sign is the Moon in? It's your wife who is seen as more aloof and detached than you prefer because in a man's chart, Venus refers to what style a woman will love him in. Is your wife more a friend than anything else? Does she prefer to be around a lot of people at once, like at a party? Political and idealistic? She could be in the science related fields or social work. Does she devote more time to causes when you wish she would devote more to you? If you tell me your moon sign I can give you a more complete picture.[/B][/QUOTE]
its the same for me too! lol I'm the loving one and women seem frigid to me.
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