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Topic: Bobby Fischer vs. The World
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peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 2397 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted December 26, 2012 09:47 PM
I have started playing chess and I recently watched this documentary on HBOgo about an American Chess Grandmaster. Within the first couple minutes thought "oh, he has to be pretty fixed" so i looked up his birthchart. He has taurus moon and leo rising. I thought it was interesting that he had a fixed tsquare with mars, pluto, and his moon. the apex being in scorpio. later in the documentary he turned out to be very investigative, paranoid etc. seemed pretty scorpionic to me. He also has a grand air trine. has anyone else seen this? thoughts on it? It was seemingly a big deal at the time, but I wasn't alive when he was the world champion of chess. http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Fischer,_Bobby astro has his data. They kept referring to his inner demons throughout the documentary and that he was his own worst enemy.
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RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 26, 2012 09:53 PM
I have no idea why and it's probably not worth anything but I had a feeling he would be a Pisces. Maybe it was the FISCHer name... IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 2397 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted December 26, 2012 09:54 PM
hahaaha. he's spacey and stubborn. the documentary is GOOD IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 454 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 26, 2012 09:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by RedScorp: I have no idea why and it's probably not worth anything but I had a feeling he would be a Pisces. Maybe it was the FISCHer name...
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sand Knowflake Posts: 8419 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 26, 2012 10:00 PM
i am bad at chess. there is little left to chance for a leo mooner. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 454 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 26, 2012 10:02 PM
pluto conj. ascendant could be the reason for him being his own worst enemy...these people have too much self-awareness,its a life long battleIP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 454 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 26, 2012 10:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: i am bad at chess. there is little left to chance for a leo mooner.
how do you deal with your inner demons sand?dont answer sex IP: Logged |
ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2434 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted December 26, 2012 10:09 PM
He has a lot of squares with ambitious aspects Moon is sq mars and Pluto, Mercury sq Uranus and Jupiter sq MC. With Mars trine Neptune and Uranus (ambitious) with a Water sun he was bound to have inner demons.IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 8419 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 26, 2012 10:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: how do you deal with your inner demons sand?dont answer sex
it is not sex that is the demon but lust. it is also no solution or even an escape. just my nature. to answer.. i don't. i let them run free. i self destruct if that is where it leads me. "Even when you self-destruct, you want to fail more, lose more, die more than others, stink more than others. In the old tribes the chief who destroyed more of his property than the other chiefs was the most powerful." as for y i suppose it's all the squares and oppositions.. "Your whole waking life is a self-contradiction. That's why you're engineering your own downfall." i've been reading too much cosmopolis this morning.. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 454 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 26, 2012 10:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: He has a lot of squares with ambitious aspects Moon is sq mars and Pluto, Mercury sq Uranus and Jupiter sq MC. With Mars trine Neptune and Uranus (ambitious) with a Water sun he was bound to have inner demons.
Arent trines supposed to help you in maintaining inner harmony? IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4216 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2012 06:10 AM
My 5 year old has started playing Chess, and I teach him using online game snippets and endgames of Fischer and Tal. By seeing those attacks, he can now finish me off with a Queen and Rook/Queen and Knight if I take my support pieces forward. That is the impact of a Fischer or Tal, their games can capture the imagination even of a 5 year old. The greatest player of all time is actually M. Sultan Khan. Fisher is second and Carlsen + Kasparov tied in the third. Sultan Khan had no formal training, was practically illiterate and yet defeated Grand Masters, without ever reading a chess book. Fisher thumped a great like Spassky, without having modern computers to assist him. His Inner Demons were not demons but frustrations at the mental illness of a hypocritical society. Being a Genius, he could see through the hypocrisy. Just like Philip K Dick. Society is programmed to call these geniuses as insane. Magnus Carlsen has the highest memory levels, hence his increased efficacy. He knew the names of all countries and their capitals before age 6. His Chart would explain memory oriented genius. My favorite is Tal. A normal human being with so many frailties but a nuclear warhead on the chess board. ------------------ Astrology Articles New Services and short readings IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4388 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 08:09 AM
I grew up playing chess since I was five years old and I followed the life of Bobby Fischer. I studied the 1972 matches against Boris Spassky intensely and replayed all the moves, as well as the 1975 matches against Anatoly Karpov. His opening repertoire was fascinating. Bobby Fischer had Aspergers Syndrome, as I do and my brother does. My brother is a chess champion.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 3014 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 27, 2012 09:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: His Inner Demons were not demons but frustrations at the mental illness of a hypocritical society. Being a Genius, he could see through the hypocrisy. Just like Philip K Dick. Society is programmed to call these geniuses as insane.
Wasn't he a little vicious, though, at the end? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_11Cdxvtfo I mean if you lose compassion for a whole country and rejoice about them getting their heads kicked in, and in the next breath say the Jews are evil for mutilating their children...not seeing your hypocrisy...that's a level of unawareness consistent with insanity.
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 134 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 27, 2012 11:13 AM
I have a Taurus moon and can be good at chess. In fact, I didn't play chess growing up because no one around me knew how to play or wanted to think that hard. I found a Taurus friend who played it with her relatives growing up so she knew what she was doing. I was able to put her queen in check the second time I played her. Didn't have a clue what I was doing, either. She was quite surprised.IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4216 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 28, 2012 01:05 PM
As I said, society is programmed to call a Genius who points out the hypocrisies of society as insane.Here is Bobby Fischer, intelligence quotient above 187. His country, instead of taking pride in his achievements of beating Soviets, wants to impose sanctions on him for playing in Yugoslavia. So he RANTS against American Jews and he is labeled Insane, Psychotic etc etc. Millions of Arabs do that 24/7, for them every global errors is some Zionist Conspiracy. Note, he did not kill a single Jew, perhaps he did not even slap a Jew in his life nor even cuss at a Jew in person, unless it was to the mirror. The same "Thought Controllers" who need Fischer to be labeled as Insane have no issue with Prescott Bush making money through Nazi contacts, no trouble with IBM making machines that may have helped in auditing/database management for genocide, no issues in dealing with all those who stole Jewish Gold, no trouble in bringing Nazi killer Scientists to USA under Operation PaperClip. So different rules for actual killers and profiteers from the butchering of Jews, yet enormous antipathy towards the verbal rants and prods of a tortured Genius who is 100% Jewish himself. Inmates running the Asylum and pointing fingers at a brilliant Spectator. Philip K Dick did say, that being Insane is a logical response to this "Fabricated" Reality , where all reactions and responses are critically manipulated by a certain secular Elite who control most of the World's wealth, resources, opinion and both sides of global politics. Had Fischer been treated like an accomplished Human Being, like how the Icelanders treated him or like how America treats a Steven Spielberg, he would have actually done something great for Jews, Americans and everyone else. His Design of Chess960 is phenomenal, these are the kind of Minds which when nurtured with compassion end up creating Tesla like designs. Pluto conjunct Ascendant, Transformational Souls. Too good for those who cannot keep up. Perhaps he should have gone for film-making. Nobody openly calls Mel Gibson Insane and Psychotic. He has made 600 million bucks.. which sums up the Hypocrisy of Society. Spielberg is never insane, even when he cannot forgive Megan Fox for an innocuous remark and keep her out of Transformers 3. The Koch Brothers are pious, never mind that their own brother exposed their criminal acts. They are billionaires. Bernie Madoff is evil, twisted, criminal. Why? He robbed the top 1% that is why. Howard Hughes is insane, because he dared the US Government. PanAm's onwers are Sane and pious. Wilhelm Reich is insane and his notes can be burnt but the inventors of Thalidomide and Thimerosal are sane and pious. Saudi Kings are friends, Saddam was a friend, Taliban is sometimes a friend and sometimes not, Iran is always a foe. Any objective ET would term the entire US Military Establishment as Mentally Ill. Conditioned Society loves to hate a genius without money, for it can make them feel good about themselves. They too do not have much money but hate the Genius for having excessive brains. All this is a result of not understanding and actualizing Neptune. This creates hidden fears in Society. Fear of Genius is one such fear, society does not have the brains to understand a genius, so they fear him and hate him. Those who do not understand their Neptune, cannot comprehend strong Pluto types. Am creating a detailed article on this, inspired from my guru Carl Payne Tobey who first exposed the connection of Neptune to Mental Illness, Projections of Mental Illness and Social Hypocrisy. IP: Logged |