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hikoro
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posted February 08, 2013 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
On the other hand "clinginess" or "possessive natures " isn't something necessarily such a bad thing if its a long distance relationship.

i think there is a difference between being clingy and possessive.

scorps are possessive, hands down. taurus too.
but, they are not necessarily clingy, imo.

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I've never met a clingy sag woman.
and Ive met a lot of them , they are territorial around people they love, They want to defend them and fight for them. Thats actually a nobel quality thou.
Ya better not dis a sag woman's girlfriend at da cluuubbbbb.
They're pretty laid back, and its easy to have open relationships with them.

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posted February 08, 2013 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hikoro:
i think there is a difference between being clingy and possessive.

scorps are possessive, hands down. taurus too.
but, they are not necessarily clingy, imo.


Of course there is a difference possessive natures can become dangerous, clingy just annoys the heck out of you.

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posted February 08, 2013 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hikoro:
im glad im not the only one...
mind you, im not stating that cancers cannot be clingy...

but, the saggies ive come across...it can be to the point where i feel suffocated, because they were very upfront about it.
a cancer will make me feel smothered, but...wanted.
but i think the sag, being so fiery...i just feel too pressured and literally, inside a heat bubble. *need to get away*


Cancers are upfront about it, their cardinal. Sags that I have come across are clingy both the men and women, its their enthusiasm that crosses them over into the "clingy realm".

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posted February 08, 2013 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whats always interested and amused me about the whole clingyness thing is how clingy women can be. i have never met a woman who was not obsessed with her boyfriend/husband, but if herbf/husband gets clingy back they dont like it lol.. its kind of funny.

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whats always interested and amused me about the whole clingyness thing is how clingy women can be. i have never met a woman who was not obsessed with her boyfriend/husband, but if herbf/husband gets clingy back they dont like it lol.. its kind of funny.

Since everyone gets in a tizzy any time you have opinions on women and dating - can you keep it gender neutral for the sake of my thread? Thank you.

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posted February 08, 2013 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I've never met a clingy sag woman.
and Ive met a lot of them , they are territorial around people they love, They want to defend them and fight for them. Thats actually a nobel quality thou.
Ya better not dis a sag woman's girlfriend at da cluuubbbbb.
They're pretty laid back, and its easy to have open relationships with them.

lol yeah this is my experience with other sags, too. I've never met a clingy sag, either.

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I guess clinginess is different from possessiveness right?
I've delt with scorpios that want to know what your doing and where you are 24/7 its more possessive behavior..
but I have to agree with you and say its probably synastry.
venus/saturn
venus/ pluto
moon pluto

I have Venus/Saturn with someone right now. I think this is possessiveness then, not clinginess.... either way though I still want to know for either. I'm also a Taurus moon opp. Pluto. I just want to talk to him all the time and know what he's doing even though the conversations aren't that deep and meaningful. Ugh. Why do I react this way when it's not even up to par with my standards?!

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posted February 08, 2013 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
whats always interested and amused me about the whole clingyness thing is how clingy women can be. i have never met a woman who was not obsessed with her boyfriend/husband, but if herbf/husband gets clingy back they dont like it lol.. its kind of funny.

do you happen to have venus square mars?
curious....just basing it on comments like this one....

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posted February 08, 2013 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whats interesting is my SO has a few planets in Sag with a Sun in Leo and he loves to text me throughout the day, and trys to call also. But it could be his Venus in Cancer responsible for that. You would think someone with alot of water would be clingy, and someone with alot of fire would be more aloof. In my experiences have been the opposite though.

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posted February 08, 2013 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually I'll change my response perhaps when too many natal planets of one person aspecting another's 7th house (partnership house) could lead to clingyness.

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posted February 08, 2013 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hikoro:
do you happen to have venus square mars?
curious....just basing it on comments like this one....


yep

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Whats interesting is my SO has a few planets in Sag and he loves to text me throughout the day, and trys to call also. But it could be his Venus in Cancer responsible for that. You would think someone with alot of water would be clingy, and someone with alot of fire would be more aloof. In my experiences have been the opposite though.

Mine too! I'm always chasing my earth/water friends. They're my friends so they don't mind but with earth/water guys (like I LOVE.) I can't do that and it makes me anxious having all this pent up energy. Especially because I don't know why he's not talking to me today. Trying to just "self-soothe" and stop thinking about it 'cause really with problems...you can let them consume you or just do nothing. I don't want to text him either. A part of me feels like I'm being tested, maybe?

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posted February 08, 2013 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I have Venus/Saturn with someone right now. I think this is possessiveness then, not clinginess.... either way though I still want to know for either. I'm also a Taurus moon opp. Pluto. I just want to talk to him all the time and know what he's doing even though the conversations aren't that deep and meaningful. Ugh. Why do I react this way when it's not even up to par with my standards?!

Taurus moon is possessive. Pluto opposite moon wants to know their partner likes them as much as they like their partner.

I remember you have lots of Aries right? Aries needs lots of attention. Lots and lots and lots. Plus, in the beginning of a relationship, Aries likes to jump right in! They don't hold back.

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posted February 08, 2013 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
Whats interesting is my SO has a few planets in Sag with a Sun in Leo and he loves to text me throughout the day, and trys to call also. But it could be his Venus in Cancer responsible for that. You would think someone with alot of water would be clingy, and someone with alot of fire would be more aloof. In my experiences have been the opposite though.

Leo needs a loooot of attention. They like being the center of your attention and can be posessive. I don't think fire is aloof; we like attention, but only when we want it. Fire is selfish that way.

It's definitely the Venus cancer too!! He shows love (Venus) like a cancer.

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posted February 08, 2013 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Leo needs a loooot of attention. They like being the center of your attention and can be posessive. I don't think fire is aloof; we like attention, but only when we want it. Fire is selfish that way.

It's definitely the Venus cancer too!! He shows love (Venus) like a cancer.


Its true they do, he loves the attention I give him, likes to feel like he is king lol, with my Libra and Cancer placements I have no problem showing him appreciation on a regular basis

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posted February 08, 2013 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mine too! I'm always chasing my earth/water friends. They're my friends so they don't mind but with earth/water guys (like I LOVE.) I can't do that and it makes me anxious having all this pent up energy. Especially because I don't know why he's not talking to me today. Trying to just "self-soothe" and stop thinking about it 'cause really with problems...you can let them consume you or just do nothing. I don't want to text him either. A part of me feels like I'm being tested, maybe?

Mabe you should find someone who will appreciate the Aries in you, ever thought of trying a Leo Sun/Libra Moon or a Libra Sun/Taurus Moon which would conjunct your own Moon

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Taurus moon is possessive. Pluto opposite moon wants to know their partner likes them as much as they like their partner.

I remember you have lots of Aries right? Aries needs lots of attention. Lots and lots and lots. Plus, in the beginning of a relationship, Aries likes to jump right in! They don't hold back.


I like you Starfairy! :thumbs up:

It's so true!!! I do need lots of attention even if I don't give it back in the beginning. I really TRY not to let that show though. But this is me thinking of the gentleman from the other thread whom I have not heard from at all today which is unlike him

I hate feeling needy and anxious so I'm trying to get back to my "To hell with ya" state of mind, lol. I didn't know Pluto was responsible for that either, I thought it was all Taurus and Pluto just added intensity to it.

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posted February 08, 2013 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lehia2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blah am i the only one who always seems to meet clingy geminis and aquas? I swear my aqua sun/libra moon/gem asc is the clingiest girl ever, and my ex bf who was a aqua sun/gem moon/leo asc was very clingy and actually left me becase i wasnt clingy enough - his words.

I have a few other examples but its pretty much the same.

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I've noticed Aquarius' are quite clingy signs once IN a relationship. Very affectionate, buggy, touch-feely, especially if they have a Cancer moon. However, as for Cancer placements in general I've ever experienced clinginess from them when they have Cancer moons. The other Cancer placements I've known were not clingy at all (and when I say placements I mean Mercury, Venus, Mars, ASC)

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posted February 08, 2013 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Centaur dominant husband is the clingiest creature I've ever experiences... of course, he's hugely possessive as well. (But, I tend to appreciate that in all my partners, it's on the "must have list" lol honestly.)

I'm Centaur dominant and have been accused of the same many times, it's a character flaw I've fought to correct, I've had relationships end because of it, and I've ended them because of it (my own clinginess that is).

But, really I haven't experienced it on the receiving end all too often... possessive - yes ALL of them except for 2 (hmmm.... one was Libra sun, and the other was a Pisces sun).

I can only speak for myself though..

I feel like it's cause of the moon-saturn opposition in my chart, I've read this aspect does tend towards this behavior. (It's the emotional dissociation, that when you are with someone and the guard is let down, it sort of becomes impossible to gauge how strong you are coming off, because you aren't use to being so open/emotional with anyone... ) ~ which is why I shut down relationships where I get carried away like that anymore... I really don't like myself behaving that way... and hate feeling out of control. >.< (that's the Taurus Moon vs Saturn in Scorpio of course).

The possessiveness is definitely all the Pluto contacts... in husband's synastry we have his 2nd house being filled with my Mars-Pluto tightly conjunct his Saturn-Pluto.

He also has his Scorpion Jupiter-Moon in Scorpio opposite my Moon... there's a sort of ownership thing going on there, which I definitely don't like... >.<;;;

^^ I've never had Venus-Pluto connections before with anyone, but recently experienced a touch of it........... >.>; that was my Mars-Pluto to their Pluto, Venus.... again...
not the greatest for the faint of heart... haha

So... for aspects, I'd look at Moon, Pluto, Saturn in the charts... and to the 2nd, 5th, and 7th houses.

But, I think midpoints are also important here... having one of those aspect connections involve a pivotal midpoint could make for insufferable, suffocating clinginess, or if you're into that... a really awesome close, haunting sort of bond. mehbe!? ^^;

The next closest relationship experience I've had receiving any form of clinginess - was Aries Sun, Sag Moon, Cancer Asc, (Gem Venus cusp of Taurus though).... there were too many other connections going on to say which caused this... but, it was mutual... and only increased the bond we had... so I'd say that was a pleasant experience with it, not the same as other times... haha (his sun was in my 8h, trine my venus almost exact... that may also make for clinginess too... Sun aspects I mean... no? we had Vertex and Nodal axes DW's too!!! lol)

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posted February 08, 2013 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yes the way i figure it if you care about someone you want them in your life and you want to be in contact with them.. if you dont want to talk to someone you dont like them,simple as that.

I agree with this!!!

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posted February 08, 2013 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yes the way i figure it if you care about someone you want them in your life and you want to be in contact with them.. if you dont want to talk to someone you dont like them,simple as that.

That's kind of true..

But sometimes, even if you care about them - you still don't like them & don't want them around on a daily basis.
My step sis has not made any contact with my step dad in 6 yrs. I know that she cares - but they've had some arguments so she can't deal with him.

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posted February 08, 2013 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Got Gemini??:
[b] I can understand this point of view.




i can attest to the fact that i have never cared how much someone talked to me if i liked them.. if i like someone talking to them is a joy,not a nuisance.[/B][/QUOTE]

I agree to this as well!!!

I will actually clear up the idea that Cancers can be clingy. In my experience it's Cancer Moon and Venus people that kill me. And I'm a Cancer Sun/Asc/Mars. But they are in the 1st, Conjunct, and form a yod with my Jupiter/Uranus Sextile. I've known quite a few people who are Cancer Suns and some of them are clingy...but depending on their Moon...they can be clingy or aloof. In fact I've dated Cancer Moon men and they text me all day every day. I'm ok with texts everyday...esp to kinda ask how your day was...or to say a quick hope you have a great day type of thing. Or say goodnight. But other than that you def don't need to talk at great length everyday (esp by text...you run out of things to say). Such as asking what you are up to...but then again I'm really indifferent to someone doing this to me, and if they want to do it I'm fine with that.

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posted February 08, 2013 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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marry me. lol.

*ahem* *ahem* -- He's already e-married.

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