posted February 11, 2013 12:50 AM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
i love clingy. i'm not clingy but i am possessive.

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posted February 11, 2013 01:31 AM              

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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:

Finally, I will say Libra Moons. My mom has this placement and she calls at least 500 times a day.

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posted February 11, 2013 04:36 AM            

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anno_lucis: awesome.

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posted February 11, 2013 01:12 PM            

There was a Libra Sun I was once into and she got upset cause I hardly ever called. So she told me that she wanted me to call her more. So I started calling like every other day. Then she said I called too much!!! I was like wtf?/??/? Lolololol, we got it right in the end tho.

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Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

posted February 11, 2013 01:33 PM            

i think, correct me if im wrong, once libra mooners fall madly in love...it seems you like the 'doing things together' like 'partners in crime'.

posted February 11, 2013 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
but...
would it be correct that libra mooners like company?

i think, correct me if im wrong, once libra mooners fall madly in love...it seems you like the 'doing things together' like 'partners in crime'.

i dont think that is being clingy though.
i do find that libraic folks seem to crave being partnered with someone.

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Perfect assessment hikoro! I guess me being so mutable, I can adapt to the needs of my woman easily without feeling slighted. Like if she wants lots of attention, I'll give a much as I can without it getting in the way of my sanity lol. If she wants less, I can do the same.

But you're right, Libra moon craves partnership. Everything is better with a partner!

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Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

posted February 11, 2013 04:38 PM            

What I love about him is, he ALWAYS wants me there with him. That's flattering. If he's changing a tire, he wants me there. If it's 3 am and I wake up, I have instructions to wake him up, too, so we can talk.

What I get tired of is, he ALWAYS wants me there with him. Like...can I please go to the bathroom without you complaining?

The aloofness is more about emotional aloofness. While he may want me physically there and talking to him constantly, there's still some *air* between us when it comes to expressing opinions and deeper feelings. I have a loose air grand trine so this works well for me, in many respects.

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE][b]anno_lucis: awesome.

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posted February 12, 2013 08:59 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Sure we can, no problem. What is it you're wondering?

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When you say you have Venus/Saturn. Does that mean that you have Venus & Saturn aspecting him, or do you mean you have a Venus - Saturn aspect in synastry. I have a Venus Conjunct Saturn in synastry, and both our Plutos are conjunct all that also. Scorpio go figure...
So I was just looking for your feelings, if you have a Venus/Saturn aspect, and which end you are and how you feel about it. Whether... loving the other person, or at the least caring, feels like hard work, or a responsibility at all. As the Venus person myself, sometimes I feel like maybe i'm being a bit of a burden.

You say you want to talk all the time, even if the conversations are not deep and meaningful. Is this perhaps part of that Taurus Scorp, Moon Pluto opposition. I know Scorp, and in Pluto, is all about revealing the deep and meaningful. However, I have learned, that not everything has to be deep and meaningful. A certain amount of non-deep stuff builds that comfort level and lays a solid netting when the deep and meaningful does happen.

I'm curious as to why you say, "I need a lot of attention, even if I don't give much back in the beginning." I understand very much that some people find it hard to be more expressive about things. I just would like to know if there was anything in particular that you feel hinders you from 'giving much back'. As i've been on the receiving end of this difficulty in giving much back. Maybe it is just your perception that you are not giving much back, since you want to talk all the time and are interested in all the little details. Or perhaps you just don't want to appear over eager so downplay it to the extreme opposite?

There is a certain something with the, 'needy and anxious' state of mind. However, If I for one, seriously got the vibe of, 'to hell with ya!' status. I would seriously consider what I was doing. I would wonder if the girl who was giving off, 'to hell with ya' really even cared if I was around. I understand people need their own space, and to do their own thing, I know I need it. But I definitely would not take that state of mind. If I had that state of mind, to me it would seem like I was saying to others, "I don't really care about having a relationship and I don't really want one right now." When you say, "...Pluto was responsible..." Is that referring to the needy and anxious? If so, then I can say yes it does. Pluto has a very strong desire drive, especially if it wants something enough, it can definitely add to the "needy, possessive, anxiousness." It's that 'must have' desire.

When it comes to talking every day, I don't know, there are a million reasons. Maybe schedules don't meet up, and one or both of you just don't have time. Saying that you can always do your best to make time. And in my case if I didn't have time, I would at least write a message and say something like, 'I'll find time (tomorrow/soon/later)' etc. I do the over thinking also, and sometimes I do let it chew me up inside. The only thing to do really is to just be honest. If you want to talk to him, or feel like he is ignoring you, just ask him, "Hey, how is your day going." Or to that effect. It is non-threatening, doesn't attach too much importance, no accusations, and easy to respond to. If he doesn't reply, maybe he is super busy, or doesn't want to talk, again could be millions of reasons. This is where that Pluto 'must have, must know' desire starts to kick in and develop that paranoia. All of which may lead to you deciding to play a little more 'cooly' so as not to let Pluto bust out and be all like, "***** ! you have talk to me and tell me exactly what you're doing, cause I HAVE to know every little thing about you, don't you know how much I think about you?" Which usually comes out as, "Oh hey, whats up?" Maybe that is not what you're going through. I know i've done something like that a few times. I would think Scorp Pluto would feel tested, or maybe other planets and aspects. In the long run it's better to just be yourself, and not worry about 'being tested' if you pass the test, pass it because of who you are, not of who you are trying to be.

It is very natural for people to try and give a good first impression. So it is not a surprise that the first messages are different. How the tone proceeds sets it from there. If it drops off so much that one of you gets bored with the other, or loses interest. Well, that's it really. However, if you still both have a desire to talk and spend time together... There is a lot of information about the "honey-moon" period. Where all the hormones and chemicals, are super jacked up. That feeling of Love. Most of the time, they tend to slowly diminish. It tends to be tied with that new, exciting feeling and thing. I suppose for Pluto Scorps, when that initial intensity starts to drop, we desperately seek it back. I imagine having Moon opposite makes it tough also. You desire stability etc. but crave that intensity, which is typically stimulated by discovery of new things. Scorpio also craves stability, probably why it tries so hard to uncover and share all the emotional facets in a relationship.

You said earlier, about conversations not being deep and meaningful. Then saying now, I don't tell him mundane things, cause what's it matter. And he doesn't reciprocate either. Well I understand, that it doesn't matter, but really it does. Of course it isn't the most important thing, Soul changing, growing, deep and meaningful matters. However, the little details matter, a lot. As I said earlier, they build the foundation. If someone wasn't interested in the little 'mundane' day to day things, then I wouldn't think they genuinely cared about me, and vice versa. Being able to share these things, and not necessarily worrying about, feeling stupid for sharing them, or someone dismissing them as unimportant. Because in reality, they are not stupid, and they are important, to you. And if someone else deems them important enough to ask you about them, or want to hear them. Well how does that make you feel? Pretty good I reckon.

Also I've sent a picture after some time of not much contact, or in a day with not much contact. My intention was to let her know I was thinking about her, and also give her an insight into a little piece of my life. Believe me I know about wanting to spend all of my time with someone. But if you can force yourself to swallow that feeling, take some time apart. You will appreciate the time with each other so much more. And you will also have time to do things that will provide things to talk about. Even if they are, 'mundane' things.

So really, after this monster post, my main questions were.

1. Venus/Saturn is that an aspect between them, or you have both aspecting him. Which are you and how does it feel?

2. You say you want to talk all the time, what drives you to feel this way, and do you feel like when you talk you are satisfied, or left wanting more. When you don't talk how do you feel?

3.Why do you feel you don't give much attention back, do you feel that maybe you downplay your interest to hide your feelings and interest?

4. Why do you want this, 'to hell with ya' state of mind?

5. Why do you want to talk every day. Do you feel if you don't, he is not thinking about you, or has forgotten about you, that you are not so important to him or he is not as into you? (Pluto Scorpio here i'm guessing, along with other Scorpio placements/aspects.)

6. Is there still a desire from both of you to talk and spend time with each other? If yes, why, if no why? Even if you get that feeling from him, and why you get that feeling from him, what he does, or does not do that gives you that impression.

7. Conversations not being deep and meaningful, do you feel like it is a waste of your time if they are not? Or are you happy to share the little things, and let the big things come as and when? Do you feel like the little things are not important to you, to him, or to you both? Do you have no desire to listen to the mundane or little things in his life etc. and if so why not?

I completely understand if you do not wish to reply to bits, or indeed anything. If some of it is a little too personal or asking a little too much, I will apologise. I can't help my Scorpio inquisitiveness.

For me, when it comes to talking, I just enjoy hearing about the little things in her life, and I love listening to her voice. And she has said, "listen to me rambling on..." and other similar things. So I tell her to carry on, that I want to and enjoy listening to her, and that these things are important, that they do matter to me, even if she thinks they won't matter to me, or I won't care.

When all is said and done.
It's usually honesty who has won.

posted February 12, 2013 11:37 AM              

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When it comes to talking every day, I don't know, there are a million reasons. ...This is where that Pluto 'must have, must know' desire starts to kick in and develop that paranoia. All of which may lead to you deciding to play a little more 'cooly' so as not to let Pluto bust out and be all like, "***** ! you have talk to me and tell me exactly what you're doing, cause I HAVE to know every little thing about you, don't you know how much I think about you?" Which usually comes out as, "Oh hey, whats up?"

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So really, after this monster post, my main questions were.

1. Venus/Saturn is that an aspect between them, or you have both aspecting him. Which are you and how does it feel?

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I believe we have Venus trine Saturn in synastry, and I have Venus square Saturn natally, and he has a Capricorn moon. He's expressed indirectly he feels like a burden, and I myself often feel unworthy (but I don't express this.) Quite a compound, eh?

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2. You say you want to talk all the time, what drives you to feel this way, and do you feel like when you talk you are satisfied, or left wanting more. When you don't talk how do you feel?

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I'm going to be honest although others may read this and judge. Phew. Okay, so when we talk I just feel comforted. It's like he's my security blanket and I can't really describe why. The more I wonder why, the more it doesn't make sense. I know it's unreasonable considering our circumstances as well, so that just adds to my feelings.

Before when I originally was asking, I felt really anxious and really unsure and insecure. However, now I just kind of notice when he doesn't reply and I feel fine. It's definitely gone down in intensity although my feelings for him are still pretty evident.

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3.Why do you feel you don't give much attention back, do you feel that maybe you downplay your interest to hide your feelings and interest?

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Because I'm trying to save the crazy for after he actually really, truly loves me LOL. Also because in the past whenever I was honest about my feelings or I put them out there the reaction was always met with uncertainty and hesitance instead of something more positive. I noticed the more I kept my feelings to myself and didn't express them, the more I got what I wanted. Oh, to answer your question - yes, I downplay them.

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I think "To hell with ya" was hasty on my part. What I meant was to gain back my independence. I don't like feeling emotionally dependent on another person, and furthermore I don't want that to show. I feel like that would be seen as naive and weak or something.

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5. Why do you want to talk every day. Do you feel if you don't, he is not thinking about you, or has forgotten about you, that you are not so important to him or he is not as into you? (Pluto Scorpio here i'm guessing, along with other Scorpio placements/aspects.)

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Yes. Basically. We don't live in the same state, so I think that heightens the anxiousness. However, I know this is something I have to squash because its negativity is often insidious in relationships.

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6. Is there still a desire from both of you to talk and spend time with each other? If yes, why, if no why? Even if you get that feeling from him, and why you get that feeling from him, what he does, or does not do that gives you that impression.

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Yes, we talk every day for most of the day. Since we don't live in the same state, spending time together is nil.

I'm not sure I understand the second part - are you asking what he does that makes me think he wants to talk to me? I guess just by his keeping in contact all day. It's not like we're glued to our phones texting each other like 15-year-old school girls but I just feel/know we are thinking about each other and care about each other. So every couple of hours or something there will be spurts of conversation 'til that night when we get online and talk.

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7. Conversations not being deep and meaningful, do you feel like it is a waste of your time if they are not? Or are you happy to share the little things, and let the big things come as and when? Do you feel like the little things are not important to you, to him, or to you both? Do you have no desire to listen to the mundane or little things in his life etc. and if so why not?

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I don't feel it's a waste of time if they're not, but without them I don't feel as much sincerity from the other person. I don't trust their sincerity without deep and meaningfuls. I'm happy to share the little things, definitely. I love the little things, I love it all. I do like listening about the mundane things in his life, however I don't think that's reciprocated. I've never told him about mundane things in my life unless it's humorous.

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For me, when it comes to talking, I just enjoy hearing about the little things in her life, and I love listening to her voice. And she has said, "listen to me rambling on..." and other similar things. So I tell her to carry on, that I want to and enjoy listening to her, and that these things are important, that they do matter to me, even if she thinks they won't matter to me, or I won't care.

When all is said and done.
It's usually honesty who has won.

-Chris

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Actually he kind of opened up the other day and then apologized, and I said "No no no this is what's missing, lol" and he understood what I meant but said he was lame and I wouldn't want to hear about him (either he's fishing for praise or that's some kind of Capricorn moon, Saturn something.) and he's also said he likes hearing what I have to say regardless of what it is which shocks me because we usually don't make a conversation out of it much.

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Well the girl was my flatmate who had just got dumped by a bf who broke off their engagement. Ha! Shouldnt have let her move in knowing she'd just been dumped.

Anyway, she would go out of her way to get dates, would be super nervous before them, run around, fret, apply makeup, cook for them, send idiotic texts etc etc

Most of the guys who'd come over to see her never came back, the ones that did were her gay friends

And well it would take some male presence around for her to immediately start acting like a total idiot, try to get all the limelight, flash her underwear etc etc.

She felt really insecure not being in relationships, apparently her heart was set on getting herself a new one ASAP.

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posted March 12, 2019 10:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Got Gemini??:
Myself, my mom, and Miss Scorpio all have Libra Moons and none of us are clingy lol.

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posted March 13, 2019 08:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Iteza:
I'm clingy.. but i can forget them easily

sagittarius sun
scorpio moon
capricorn venus
gemini mars
scorpio pluto
7th house in pisces

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posted March 13, 2019 02:42 PM            

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Do you think your Gemini Mars is what helps you forget someone easily? Do you have a Moon-Pluto conjunction?

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