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Topic: What does Exalted Mean? Why are Signs that are not rulers considered exalted?
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MorteImperator
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From: Italy
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 29, 2013 10:06 PM
  
I am scratching my head. I've been told tooo many times by many Astrologers including Doomlord that Venus in Pisces is "Exalted" and one of the most beneficial placements a person could ever hope to have in his chart.I seen some sites go as far as saying having a Venus in Pisces is far more beneficial than having a Venus in its ruling Signs Libra and Taurus! Can anyone clarify what exalted means? Why is Venus in Pisces and other placements such as Moon in Taurus considered exalted (even though these signs aren't even the traditional rulers of those planets)? IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
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From: Uranus
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posted March 29, 2013 10:08 PM
Exalted means put into a high or erect position, the planetary qualities are highly strengthened, while for Domicile (home) the sign and its ruler Planet mesh, its positive but it doesnt make the planet qualities more aware like exaltation does.IP: Logged |
a_may_gemini
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posted March 29, 2013 10:16 PM
When a planet is exalted in a sign, it means the planetary energies gets expressed at the highest degree of effectiveness.Let's do Mars as an example. Domicile Aries and Scorpio Mars work well in their own styles but Aries is too hot headed and impatient and Scorpio holds onto things too long and can get vindictive. Mars in Capricorn exalts as Capricorn is cool headed and rational enough to control Mars' natural inclination for impulsiveness and love of causing trouble/rebellion. Capricorn directs Mars' energies to realistic outlets and plans for scheduled results but knows when to cut the cord and ditch something when it's not going to pan out. IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted March 29, 2013 10:17 PM
If a planet is exalted, it's treated like an honored guest. Having an honored guest staying in your house has a way of changing the family dynamics and bringing out the best in family interactions in a way that "dear, old dad" does not, even though the home is his castle. Zat help?IP: Logged |
Venusian Moon
Knowflake Posts: 287
From: Nyc
Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 29, 2013 10:51 PM
Weird. Why would venus in pisces be exhalted? The people i know with this placement are easy and gullible which makes them prone to cheating.
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Barbee
Knowflake Posts: 216
From: Buffalo, NY, USA
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 29, 2013 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by MorteImperator:
I am scratching my head. I've been told tooo many times by many Astrologers including Doomlord that Venus in Pisces is "Exalted" and one of the most beneficial placements a person could ever hope to have in his chart.I seen some sites go as far as saying having a Venus in Pisces is far more beneficial than having a Venus in its ruling Signs Libra and Taurus! Can anyone clarify what exalted means? Why is Venus in Pisces and other placements such as Moon in Taurus considered exalted (even though these signs aren't even the traditional rulers of those planets)?
Very good question Mortal, I was going to ask the same thing. Now we both know. I don't have anything exalted. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted March 29, 2013 11:14 PM
I too question the hoopla about Venus in Pisces. Most of the folks I know with this placement let others walk all over in the area where they have this aspect, and the other thing is that they can easily escape through drugs and alcohol or fantasies. I suspect the so called exaltation of Venus in Pisces is a bi-product of the Piscean age. Each astrological age has a way of looking at things through its own lenses.IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted March 29, 2013 11:37 PM
The exaltations are one of the most ancient astrological factors still in use . . . its roots may extend back to the second millenium BCE. (per Wikipedia) No one knows why the ancients chose these signs for the exaltations. Venus is exalted in the 27th degree of Pisces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exaltation_(astrology) IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
Knowflake Posts: 1953
From: Uranus
Registered: May 2011
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posted March 30, 2013 01:28 AM
Honestly, I don't know a Venus in Pisces. Thank god I don't, it squares my venus in gemmyIP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
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From: virginia, usa
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 30, 2013 02:22 AM
Jkitty and a_may_gemini, thanks for the very good explanations. I thought I understood but you made it much more clear.IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 1753
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 30, 2013 02:33 AM
An exaltion is like a vacation but planets eventually miss their homes and function more properly in their own sign.
In Vedic astrology, which primary gives importance to exaltion will say thats a planet working properly in its own sign.
Specifically for venus libra its Moolatrikona sign is its strongest. My best friend has venus in pisces 26 degrees conjunct dsc exact.
I would rather not have such a placement, its too much to handle.
She often dates complete losers or broken guys with too much baggage.
She's still friends with them too, and I have the displeasure of being around them.... She can be very smothering and too loving, She does a lot for others and expects the same back. So I have to distance myself from her or I'll drown in a sea of exaltion lol.. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
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From: Uranus
Registered: May 2011
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posted March 30, 2013 06:00 AM
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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
Jkitty and a_may_gemini, thanks for the very good explanations. I thought I understood but you made it much more clear.
thanks for mentioning me too, pute IP: Logged |
k e p h x i
Knowflake Posts: 156
From: St. Paul, MN, USA
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 30, 2013 08:56 AM
Okay, wow. I understand all these terms now. Thank you this thread. :PSo, is there a list/reference of what's domicile and exalted? ------------------
Rising: Virgo
Sun: _____
Moon: _____ IP: Logged |
MorteImperator
Knowflake Posts: 77
From: Italy
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 30, 2013 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by k e p h x i:
Okay, wow. I understand all these terms now. Thank you this thread. :PSo, is there a list/reference of what's domicile and exalted?
Here
http://www.astro.com/mtp/mtp64_e.htm IP: Logged |
MorteImperator
Knowflake Posts: 77
From: Italy
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 30, 2013 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by k e p h x i:
Okay, wow. I understand all these terms now. Thank you this thread. :PSo, is there a list/reference of what's domicile and exalted?
Here
http://www.astro.com/mtp/mtp64_e.htm IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
Knowflake Posts: 866
From: walking with my head in the clouds!
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 30, 2013 09:14 PM
All these metaphors...an exalted placement means the planet's energies are best focused. Venus is creative, tasteful, and, above all, idealistic. In Taurus and Libra, these traits come through closest to Venus' natural energy.In Pisces, these traits can go overboard. Creativity becomes artistry, tastefulness becomes (over)sensitivity to the little things, and idealism becomes dreaming. quote:
a_may_gemini: When a planet is exalted in a sign, it means the planetary energies gets expressed at the highest degree of effectiveness.
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KarkaQueen
Knowflake Posts: 1953
From: Uranus
Registered: May 2011
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posted March 30, 2013 09:26 PM
GOOD LORD. that is What I just SAID. But noo it has to be in other words for a simpleton's language. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
Knowflake Posts: 866
From: walking with my head in the clouds!
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 30, 2013 09:32 PM
^What's your problem?  IP: Logged |
Jkitty
Knowflake Posts: 117
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posted March 30, 2013 10:12 PM
KarkaQueen, I agree. You made a wonderful contribution.IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 1181
From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 01, 2013 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
The exaltations are one of the most ancient astrological factors still in use . . . its roots may extend back to the second millenium BCE. (per Wikipedia) No one knows why the ancients chose these signs for the exaltations. Venus is exalted in the 27th degree of Pisces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exaltation_(astrology)
Let's take a look at the following from the wikipedia article:
Exaltation Degrees of the Planets In astrology, exaltation is one of the five essential dignities of a planet. Each of the seven traditional planets has its exaltation in one zodiac sign. The positions are: Sun: 19th degree of Aries (i.e., 18°00' - 18°59')
Moon: 3rd degree of Taurus
Mercury: 15th degree of Virgo
Venus: 27th degree of Pisces
Mars: 28th degree of Capricorn
Jupiter: 15th degree of Cancer
Saturn: 21st degree of Libra If I understand correctly, the planet HAS to be at a SPECIFIC degree in that sign to be exalted. Therefore, astrologers should not be saying generalities that a planet is exalted in a sign because it is not the truth. It is only a partial truth. In fact, if we use the example of Venus being exalted in Pisces, it is a statement that rings true 1 out of 29 times, because it is NOT exalted in the other 28 degrees of Pisces. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 597
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 01, 2013 11:22 PM
I have a lovely exalted planet and it happens to be the moon (exalted by sign, not degree.) I think I have seen a positive influence, and a negative because it is afflicted. I am maternal, some people I know are, too. It's supposed to bring out that good maternal energy, lots of food and creature comforts and make the life easier in this respect which it has done somewhat. If it were in good aspect to Jupiter, it might be free to do a bit more but that's reaching for the moon. I have also had times in my life where I had no parental influence much at all, which can be explained by the moon's affliction. My home life has been in complete shambles mostly due to my mother and her issues. Things fluctuate. All in all my life has been better with this moon than it would be without. Maybe with a different sign, there wouldn't have been any good periods at all? Zip! So, it's been good, bad and ugly. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
Knowflake Posts: 1027
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posted April 02, 2013 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by Belage:
I too question the hoopla about Venus in Pisces. Most of the folks I know with this placement let others walk all over in the area where they have this aspect, and the other thing is that they can easily escape through drugs and alcohol or fantasies. I suspect the so called exaltation of Venus in Pisces is a bi-product of the Piscean age. Each astrological age has a way of looking at things through its own lenses.
lol... never been walked over, nor have i escaped through drugs and alcohol. Venus in Pisces conjunct Pisces ascendant. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted April 02, 2013 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Honestly, I don't know a Venus in Pisces. Thank god I don't, it squares my venus in gemmy
Actually, you'd get along quite well with a Pisces Venus since Venus loves Venus.... you'd be attracted. Doesn't matter if it's a square, opposition, etc., any aspect to a Venus in a dignified placement receives any other Venus placement well. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted April 02, 2013 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by Belage:
Let's take a look at the following from the wikipedia article:
Exaltation Degrees of the Planets In astrology, exaltation is one of the five essential dignities of a planet. Each of the seven traditional planets has its exaltation in one zodiac sign. The positions are: Sun: 19th degree of Aries (i.e., 18°00' - 18°59')
Moon: 3rd degree of Taurus
Mercury: 15th degree of Virgo
Venus: 27th degree of Pisces
Mars: 28th degree of Capricorn
Jupiter: 15th degree of Cancer
Saturn: 21st degree of Libra If I understand correctly, the planet HAS to be at a SPECIFIC degree in that sign to be exalted. Therefore, astrologers should not be saying generalities that a planet is exalted in a sign because it is not the truth. It is only a partial truth. In fact, if we use the example of Venus being exalted in Pisces, it is a statement that rings true 1 out of 29 times, because it is NOT exalted in the other 28 degrees of Pisces.
Actually, that's not entirely accurate. Yes, in that specific degree it's given extra punch, but even the strictest astrologers I've spoken to have said that just being in the sign itself is enough, that it doesn't have to be in that degree. So, it doesn't matter if it's in the exact degree or just in the sign, if it's in, it's exalted.
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12thhouser
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posted April 02, 2013 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I would rather not have such a placement, its too much to handle.
Not everyone can.  (teasin') IP: Logged |
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