posted April 12, 2013 11:33 AM            

It is like I see their Mercury through my "relating-glasses", cause in my psyche Mercury is connected to relationship maters (as 7th house rulers).

In the last year (and even before) I`ve noticed that the Mercury of three guys was falling right onto my ASC (and Neptune and NN), and everytime it was the typical "7th house ruler vibe" (to differing degrees of intensity of course).

Almost like their MErcury on my ASC makes a connection between 7th and 1st house for me;
since Mercury does not necessarily rule THEIR 7th house (though if the intensity was very high, it actually DID; it was a mutual connection therefore), it might be just MY feeling and "what I see in them", though it does not need to be the truth or how they experience it.

Did anyone else observe something like this?

That your DESC-ruler, as it occurs in THEIR chart, makes important aspects, and it just feel like relationship-stuff?

(so if your DESC is in Cancer, you would check for aspects to THEIR Moon - that is what I mean with "projected ruler").

posted April 12, 2013 10:11 PM            

Yeah, I’ve noticed this too.

My 5th house ruler is Mars (Aries cusp), 7th house ruler is Mercury (Gemini cusp), and my 8th house ruler is the Moon (Cancer cusp).

Funnily enough, I get a similar type of experience if someone else’s natal Mars, Mercury or Moon strongly aspects my chart. The give me ‘feelings’ similar to the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, even if they don’t touch my personal 5th, 7th, and 8th houses.

When I receive aspects from a guy’s Mars, it’s like he has the ability to really impress me. Which makes sense when you consider that Mars is the ruler of my natal 5th house.

I think there’s an energy ECHO that our original 5th, 7th, and 8th houses generate.

We can experience the energy echo of these houses in SIX different ways…

1.) Someone puts planets in our own 5th, 7th, and 8th houses.

2.) Someone aspects the ruler of our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses.

3.) Someone puts planets in our secondary 5th, 7th and 8th houses.
(For example, someone puts planets in my 3rd house, and my Dsc is Gemini. Or someone puts planets in my 1st house, and my 5th house is Aries. Or someone puts planes in my 4th house and my 8th house is Cancer.)

4.) Someone aspects the ruler of our secondary 5th, 7th, and 8th houses.
(As in, they’d aspect the rulers of my 1st, 3rd, and 4th houses)

5.) Someone aspects our chart with our projected 5th, 7th, and 8th house rulers in their chart.
(Someone else’s Mars, Mercury, and Moon, strongly aspects my chart)

6.) Someone has the symbolism of my 5th, 7th and 8th houses strong in their own chart.
(Like in the example of my Aries 5th house cusp… I might be attracted to someone with a strong Mars aspected in the context of their own chart, maybe they have Mars conjunct Sun.)

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The projected house ruler theory, is actually really logical when you think about it. If you have a Gemini Dsc, you’re looking for others who can give you good communication. When people aspect your chart strongly with their Mercury they are able to GIVE you the communication /intellectual stimulation that you crave. For a Gemini Dsc this would be naturally attractive.

Same thing when you have a Gemini Dsc, and people strongly influence your 3rd house in synastry. They bring the area of intellectual exchange alive for you, and so you see them as a more desirable partner. For Gemini Dsc the 3rd house is like a secondary 7th house.

(Note: I think secondary houses are a little more diluted then the primary houses. But there’s still a pretty strong echo in them from the original house when secondary houses are touched in synastry. The first time an echo bounces is when it’s the loudest.)

A similar attractive effect occurs when you have a Gemini Dsc, and other people simply have Mercury, or Gemini, or the 3rd house, strong in their natal chart. In this case, these people are able to exemplify the energy you’re attracted to in their everyday behavior. So you see them as a desirable person to be around.

Projected house rulers, secondary houses, and symbolism matches (Person has Mercury conjunct Asc and you have a Gemini Dsc, making a symbolic match) are all ways people can give you the energy of your 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, without actually touching the original 5th, 7th, and 8th houses in synastry.

posted April 13, 2013 06:17 AM            

"So it seems whenever a guy makes some hard aspects to my personal planets or angles from his saturn, I definitely see him in a relationship light. "

Yes, that is what I thought.
Of course there will be other attraction aspects.

I havet he example of my friend and the love of her life. He has a Gemini DESC, and HER Mercury is EXACTLY conjunct his Antivertex.

I was thinking that maybe planets really have some sort of double function; the first one its basic function (Mercury as communication planet for example, or Venus as how you express love), and the second one related to our natal charts (Mercury as 5th house ruler having to do with our sexual style or creative expression and so on.).

posted April 13, 2013 06:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:

Funnily enough, I get a similar type of experience if someone else’s natal Mars, Mercury or Moon strongly aspects my chart. The give me ‘feelings’ similar to the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, even if they don’t touch my personal 5th, 7th, and 8th houses.

When I receive aspects from a guy’s Mars, it’s like he has the ability to really impress me. Which makes sense when you consider that Mars is the ruler of my natal 5th house.

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Yes, that is EXACTLY what I mean.

I found it quite puzzling that often my Moon will have considerably weak aspects (a trine at 4 degrees here and there) in the synastry with guys I am REALLY going nuts over. lol (my Moon seems to be strongly activated in friendships though).

However I also found that interestingly my chart was having a wealth of strong and tight aspects to THEIR Moon. And I hypothizd that maybe i was meeting my Moon in or through them, if that makes sense.

I also noticed how the important natal aspects seem to repeat in synastry (and composite).

For example that Sag guy:

Moon rules my 8th house, Mercury rules my 7th house.
HIS Moon conjuncts MY MErcury

Mars traditionally rules his 8th house, Pluto rules his 8th house; Mercury rules his 7th house.

my Pluto exactly sextiles his Mercury.
my Mars conjuncts his Mercury (4 degrees)

This makes for a projected houseruler connection of 7th and 8th house, which of course resonates with Venus and Pluto.

Both of us have a waxing (Cancer-phase) Venus-Pluto-square natally, which also gets repeated in the composite naturally.

His Venus is the intercepted ruler of his 7th house, and Pluto is the ruler of 8th house and falls into his 7th house.
So he has a strong natural resonance with Venus-Pluto on a 7th-8th level.

In my case the resonance seems to be more strongly 2nd-8th house related, as the ruler of my 2nd house is in 8th house, the ruler of my 8th house is in 2nd house,a nd the rulers are quinkunx.

I have also Pluto trine DESC, but really the 2nd-8th emphasis is stronger.

Funnily the gentleman has Taurus on the 2nd house cusp, so his Venus is ALSO 2nd house ruler and squaring his 8th house ruler.
And my 2nd house is squaring his 8th house ruler by 4 degrees.
I guess it is more than enough Venus-Pluto archetypes running through this particular synastry, even without a straight Venus-Pluto-synastric aspects.

posted April 13, 2013 06:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
While I can easily see how a strong connection to my 7th house ruler (Mercury) brings 7th house issues to the fore and is a big relationship-carrier for me, I noticed in the recent months how it is not always my Mercury, getting the aspects. But sometimes it will be THEIR Mercury making the aspects, and still relationship-matters come to the foreground for me, even though Mercury might rule totally different houses for them.

It is like I see their Mercury through my "relating-glasses", cause in my psyche Mercury is connected to relationship maters (as 7th house rulers).

In the last year (and even before) I`ve noticed that the Mercury of three guys was falling right onto my ASC (and Neptune and NN), and everytime it was the typical "7th house ruler vibe" (to differing degrees of intensity of course).

Almost like their MErcury on my ASC makes a connection between 7th and 1st house for me;
since Mercury does not necessarily rule THEIR 7th house (though if the intensity was very high, it actually DID; it was a mutual connection therefore), it might be just MY feeling and "what I see in them", though it does not need to be the truth or how they experience it.

Did anyone else observe something like this?

That your DESC-ruler, as it occurs in THEIR chart, makes important aspects, and it just feel like relationship-stuff?

(so if your DESC is in Cancer, you would check for aspects to THEIR Moon - that is what I mean with "projected ruler").

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Very interesting Ceri! If I make a thread to you asking about House Rulers, would you help me?

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posted April 13, 2013 08:34 AM            

So it does work
Very interesting!

posted April 13, 2013 09:38 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
I once thought; what do I have in common with Libra?? (since he has a Libra-descendant)

And then; Ah yess! My venus is the dragon point of his Sun/Mars quincunx, so making it a YOD!

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