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theunknown
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posted August 11, 2014 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Obviously Mercury is very important in synastry. But I think the level of importance depends on the individual charts. If someone is very Mercurial (Gemini/Virgo/Mercury prominent), it will be really important to them. If someone doesn't have a prominent Mercury, it may be easier for them to deal with the negative aspects or the lack of Mercury aspects.

In my experience, squares are very difficult to handle. Communication just doesn't flow, no matter how hard you try to make it work. Saturn in the mix can be fatal! It's not completely unmanageable, but I'd rather have flowing aspects with Mercury. It's so much easier to relate to each other and you don't have to worry about being criticised or misunderstood.

When there are no Mercury aspects, you're just on completely different wavelengths. It's like there's nothing to talk about. And if you do talk about something, there's rarely a feeling of true exchange. It's a bit shallow and awkward. Again, this is just my experience.


Moon/Mercury or Venus/Mercury aspects are very popular between close people, especially in friendships I've noticed.


I don't ever want to have a Mercury square Mars aspect in synastry.. it always ends in conflict and sometimes verbal abuse.


what if mercuries are trine by signs but there's no aspect?

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posted August 12, 2014 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 12, 2014 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about a close conjunction between Mercury and Mars?

And what about Mercury opposition Venus?

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posted September 29, 2014 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping again! Interesting topic.

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posted September 30, 2014 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mercury sq mars in synastry (and in composite) with a very mercurial individual and i've actually found it to be positive, although there are a lot of other good aspects that probably ease it (sextiles to moon, conj jupiter, trine pluto, etc). However I notice that because of his highly mercurial nature, he demands a lot of mental stimulation and the heated discussions that mars-mercury square incite are interesting to him. We are related by an intellectual profession so we have that as a means to which mars-mercury energy can channel through, i'd imagine in a domestic situation it would become irritating unless there was a good way for the two to channel their heated discussions into.

The jupiter merc conjunction definitely adds to the intellectual and philosophical realm of discussion, and the moon sextile just adds a comfort and sense of ease in discussion (as well as a pretty loose DW sun-merc conjunct)

We also have a merc-pluto DW, and this really lends to some intense conversations, my pluto trines his merc, his squares mine. We definitely haven't been afraid of talking about anything with eachother.

We do also have neptune-merc opposition. Definitely adds a sort of otherworldly dreamy realm to conversation where it feels like we are interpreting something beyond the actual words that are spoken, however it can get muddled and confusing, like "am I just imagining what they said or did they actually say/mean that...?"

The one aspect that i'm curious to learn more about is my chiron conj his merc. I haven't found a lot of info on it but i've read that it may give me an ability to heal any sort of intellectual qualms or hangups he'd have, or to at least see through them, however sometimes I feel it is him doing the intellectual healing there, or perhaps a mutual thing, as his chiron conjunct my mars in 3rd.

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posted September 30, 2014 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:
I have mercury sq mars in synastry (and in composite) with a very mercurial individual and i've actually found it to be positive, although there are a lot of other good aspects that probably ease it (sextiles to moon, conj jupiter, trine pluto, etc). However I notice that because of his highly mercurial nature, he demands a lot of mental stimulation and the heated discussions that mars-mercury square incite are interesting to him. We are related by an intellectual profession so we have that as a means to which mars-mercury energy can channel through, i'd imagine in a domestic situation it would become irritating unless there was a good way for the two to channel their heated discussions into.

The jupiter merc conjunction definitely adds to the intellectual and philosophical realm of discussion, and the moon sextile just adds a comfort and sense of ease in discussion (as well as a pretty loose DW sun-merc conjunct)

We also have a merc-pluto DW, and this really lends to some intense conversations, my pluto trines his merc, his squares mine. We definitely haven't been afraid of talking about anything with eachother.

We do also have neptune-merc opposition. Definitely adds a sort of otherworldly dreamy realm to conversation where it feels like we are interpreting something beyond the actual words that are spoken, however it can get muddled and confusing, like "am I just imagining what they said or did they actually say/mean that...?"

The one aspect that i'm curious to learn more about is my chiron conj his merc. I haven't found a lot of info on it but i've read that it may give me an ability to heal any sort of intellectual qualms or hangups he'd have, or to at least see through them, however sometimes I feel it is him doing the intellectual healing there, or perhaps a mutual thing, as his chiron conjunct my mars in 3rd.


Wow! That is so nice! I bet you must have some really interesting conversations^^
(seriously I would like to hear one!)

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posted September 30, 2014 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow! That is so nice! I bet you must have some really interesting conversations^^
(seriously I would like to hear one!)

We have many interesting convos . The thing that attracted me to him the most was that he wasn't afraid or opposed to talking about metaphysical subject matter. Many people in the scientific community will look at you with some side-eye when you start talking about aliens, UFOs, or astrology, but he didn't, and that meant a lot to me. He seemed interested and entertained my wacky ideas. I grew up in a household where we were taught to seek spirituality in the world through science, however alternative sciences, metaphysics etc, was looked down upon not just in my household but it seemed like everywhere I went. Many people in my age group aren't exactly interested in science either, people start to zone out once I really get into something i'm super passionate about which makes me feel shut out from my peers. To be able to talk with someone who's just as passionate (and immensely knowledgeable) about science and simultaneously open to the more arcane and mystical subjects feels immensely uplifting, enlightening and healing. Sometimes it felt like together we could solve any mystery with our minds alone.

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posted September 30, 2014 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:
We have many interesting convos . The thing that attracted me to him the most was that he wasn't afraid or opposed to talking about metaphysical subject matter. Many people in the scientific community will look at you with some side-eye when you start talking about aliens, UFOs, or astrology, but he didn't, and that meant a lot to me. He seemed interested and entertained my wacky ideas. I grew up in a household where we were taught to seek spirituality in the world through science, however alternative sciences, metaphysics etc, was looked down upon not just in my household but it seemed like everywhere I went. Many people in my age group aren't exactly interested in science either, people start to zone out once I really get into something i'm super passionate about which makes me feel shut out from my peers. To be able to talk with someone who's just as passionate (and immensely knowledgeable) about science and simultaneously open to the more arcane and mystical subjects feels immensely uplifting, enlightening and healing. Sometimes it felt like together we could solve any mystery with our minds alone.

I bet you could work out some very interesting theories indeed! And you really should also!!! - I would TOTALLY read the book haha
Having a nice mercury synastry with someone can be really interesting I bet^^
What about your mercury house overlay? What house does his and your mercury touch in your charts?

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posted September 30, 2014 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I bet you could work out some very interesting theories indeed! And you really should also!!! - I would TOTALLY read the book haha
Having a nice mercury synastry with someone can be really interesting I bet^^
What about your mercury house overlay? What house does his and your mercury touch in your charts?

That would be awesome! If only he had the time. Sometimes I wish I had recorded certain conversations.

His mercury falls in my 7th, and mine in his 12th. I definitely see how the 12th house placement manifests, maybe along with the neptune aspect as well lends to the sort of telepathic nature it feels like we have going on some times. We both dream of eachother a lot. It feels like we enter eachothers dreams. My sun falls there too, conjunct his natal SN and venus, and loosely his merc. His NN makes an exact conjunction with my ASC, which I am hoping means that we will be in eachothers lives for a while and continue to inspire eachother.

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posted September 30, 2014 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a book out there called The Mercury Method of Chart Comparison - the author suggests that the entire synastry chart is useless and couples' longevity/marriage/relationship can be determined by the Mercury placements alone.

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posted September 30, 2014 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh well, this thread was kind of depressing, lol.

I've both the dreaded Merc sq Merc aspect and Merc sq Saturn(kinda wide, though) with someone I like a lot.

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posted September 30, 2014 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by orocairion:
Oh well, this thread was kind of depressing, lol.

I've both the dreaded Merc sq Merc aspect and Merc sq Saturn(kinda wide, though) with someone I like a lot.


Don't worry I have Mercury sq. Mars and Mercury sq. Pluto with my current SO

We do have a few other softer aspects to help balance it out (as per my previous post) but I can see how heated topics could escalate into arguments between us if we let them. I think we're both so anti-conflict though that if we do get going on something we either agree to disagree or come to some sort of quick resolution before it escalates. He always touts how nice it is that we can "talk about things" so that must count for something. It also might help that we both have Mercury/Mars in hard aspect in our respective natal charts so we might already be used to that energy.

Don't despair! You never know how it'll play out until you let it. Astrology is a tool to help guide us, not an absolute!

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posted September 30, 2014 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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