posted April 24, 2013 06:38 AM            

Btw here is a good link: http://tribes.tribe.net/venuspluto

posted April 24, 2013 06:44 AM            

I am glad I don't have an affliction between Venus and Pluto because all the people I know who have it have a difficult love life, always full of complications and drama.

The conjunction seems easier, even though some people say it's a hard aspect.

I'm wary of the square and the opposition especially in men's charts.

posted April 24, 2013 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
This is the original "unrequited" love aspect. Much depends on how close this aspect is.

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posted April 25, 2013 07:39 PM            

i notice he gets in a lot of relationships but they end extremelyyyy quickly like they dont even last a month lol..that fast

everytime he has a new girl i just know its going to end for him or something will happen to break them up. i feel kinda bad for him cause he does express a lot how he wants a girlfriend and his not afraid of commitment. girls always let him down is what he says

i think if somebody has this aspect natally its going to work best with somebody else who also has venus/pluto in their natal cause theyll be able to understand the intensity and will be more likely to stick through the love hate

he has venus square pluto and i have venus conjunct pluto....i can handle this ass hehe he can run away all he wants but nope!!!!!!! he always comes back

posted April 26, 2013 12:32 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
This is the original "unrequited" love aspect. Much depends on how close this aspect is.

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Agree, and I have some theories. Perhaps it's not that the person doesn't get into relationships, or have anyone who loves them ... but rather, the person is scared of commitment and sabotages the relationship, eventually making the other person run away AS IF the love was not being reciprocated.

Another scenario I can think of is, the person is so scared that they (consciously or not) choose partners who will ultimately reject them. The person will pooh-pooh someone who is really interested and instead go after someone they know won't reciprocate. This allows them to stay out of a serious relationship and also gives the appearance that no one loves them back (unrequited love).

posted April 26, 2013 03:00 AM            

Good examples, I agree.

I have the aspect too but wide (7 degrees)
and there once was this someone, hmm....

as for composite charts, no unless it's in the Natal and then other factors figure in as well.

posted April 26, 2013 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I know that people say that Venus-Pluto-squares or oppositions are unrequited, but I haven´t found that to be true. Well, if it was true, there was also usually a lack of aspects between personal planets.

Personally, having Venus-Pluto-square, I am really fond of this aspect in composite and synastry. I BREATHE this kind of intensity.

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Very true. Sigh.

posted April 26, 2013 12:07 PM            

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Originally posted by odessamoon:
Agree, and I have some theories. Perhaps it's not that the person doesn't get into relationships, or have anyone who loves them ... but rather, the person is scared of commitment and sabotages the relationship, eventually making the other person run away AS IF the love was not being reciprocated.

Another scenario I can think of is, the person is so scared that they (consciously or not) choose partners who will ultimately reject them. The person will pooh-pooh someone who is really interested and instead go after someone they know won't reciprocate. This allows them to stay out of a serious relationship and also gives the appearance that no one loves them back (unrequited love).

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Yes. You nailed it.

And this.

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they dont seem to know what they want. they want you but if you want them back too they run. i feel like there feelings are so intense added with fear of rejection they just dont know what to do with themselves

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posted April 26, 2013 12:14 PM            

Me and the guy i'm seeing who we both keep breaking up and getting back together with (in a matter of weeks) has venus square pluto natally just like me.

Honestly, yes. What will make us happy is finding someone who's so crazy about us that we never have to feel insecure and want the power over the love.

Obviously, venus sq pluto has insecurity issues to work out. lol. bc the above belief isnt healthy. Nobody is gonna be crazy enough about them

posted April 26, 2013 11:32 PM            

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Originally posted by foxxyxo:
i think calling them out on their behavior should do the trick you gotta be a STRONG woman to handle these people. not strong, you'll just be walked on and they'll use you or quickly move on

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posted April 26, 2013 11:46 PM            

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Originally posted by foxxyxo:
runaroundscreaming, you have this in your natal right? howd you become aware of it? through getting sick of it? or did astrology help?? just wondering

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definitely thru getting sick of it! haha

i guess astrology also helped. but i never really believed what the description said about not wanting to be in a relationship when i finally was in one, because i just gave the excuse that there was something wrong with that person.

posted April 27, 2013 12:38 AM              

The above quote on the title of this post is taken from an episode of the Vampire Diaries it was something Damon said to Elena in describing what kind of love he thought she was looking for. It struck me how Plutonian it sounded and it's not just Venus-Pluto aspects that feel this kind of consuming passion. Astrologers also look at Pluto aspecting the luminaries (Sun and Moon) or Pluto placed in the 5th, 7th or 8th house. Astrologer Carol Rushman says that these kinds of contacts in romance can consume you in an almost damaging way, as this kind of obsession can become the single focus of your life, so other areas of your life may suffer and be neglected.

When Pluto focuses upon something so intently it can take away energy from other areas of our lives. Another aspect of Plutonian love is that it is incredibly hard to be detached and objective and it's in the area of love that we find deep and embedded feelings, some which are complex. I initially thought it was only the hard aspects that overexposed themselves expressing a Plutonian love. However the trine aspect between Venus and Pluto is also highly significant. For example, take the author of "The Dangerous Passion: Why Jealousy is as Necessary as Love and Sex" and in his horoscope we find the Sun is conjunct Venus and forms a trine to Pluto.

I have written posts on Sun-Pluto's innate nature to be the psychologist to dig and to delve into what's really underneath. What really is behind the facade, pretence and the public masks we wear. The author of the book has spent some years researching this subject and I have read the entirety of the work and some parts I am in agreement with and others not so much. I think he is right that jealousy shouldn't be tagged as a basic emotion and that it is also not some neurotic disorder. As an owner of a Venus square Pluto I do like my man to have moments of jealousy and it makes me feel more loved and desired. However I still feel there are dangers of eliciting this kind of emotion and pushing the boundaries too far.

I was writing about another Venus trine Pluto individual and I checked out his chart and found a near exact aspect between these two planets. The 'Moves Like Jagger' Singer Adam Levine and his horoscope explains a lot about the music in general. Take a look on what I had written about him in the quote below:

It wouldn't be a wrong observation to say that there are umpteen songs written by Adam about passionate love or passionate hate. You see love and hate is where Adam seems to go on each record. The singer possesses an amorous disposition a heavy and ardent approach to women, swaying between seeing her as his next love obsession and then switching to powerful feelings of regret, letting go, and staying back in control. The whole affair is filled with so much complexity that he seems comfortable in this place now.

The difficult aspects are still considered to be hard candy and still perhaps a little more complex in nature, but I 'll keep taking study notes on this subject and add further insights in future posts. If we take a look at some of Lana Del Reys video's we might raise our quizical eyebrows and feel that there is something Plutonian going on. By the look of her video's she is taking a degree this time around on the Venus square Pluto aspect. Many of the subjects touch upon Plutonic taboos in society and features some uneasy moments and she always falls in love with the bad boy. The Born to Die music vid shows her sexually flirting with her boyfriend, going on a car ride that ends in her death, but the singer says the song is a homage to true love.

Lana has Venus in the royal sign of Leo square to Pluto in Scorpio. These two signs are the most dramatic of the zodiac. The video is set in a palace and this suits her regal Venus. Lana always gets A+ for her acting skills. Venus-Pluto aspects are drawn to fated and often difficult attractions, and there may be a lot of emotional and psychological complexes that keep her from a love that is more simple. It should be warned to Venus-Pluto lovers that boundaries will be crossed that are uncomfortable. These individuals want the totality of love and nothing less will do. I need to walk in a sticky area regarding this topic and state that Venus-Pluto people will often provoke a lover into expressing the darker side of their nature, and this is a passion that's driven to the very edge=====. The discussion in this article contains mostly the heavier themes, and Plutoinian love cannot always be like this all the time. We can be in a comfortable relationship, have a nice family and a white picket fence, but... "Sometimes you want a love that is consuming, you want passion and a little bit of danger."

http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.com/2012/08/venus-pluto-you-want-love-that-con sumes.html?m=1

The end is so true. My boyfriend brings out intense jealous feelings in me. He acts the same way too.

I get jealous over nothing and so does he.

He has pluto in the 1st.

Yesterday when we said goodbye i went walking and a guy stopped to ask me for directions. Little did i know my boyfriend was standung and watching with a face i have never seen before.

The guy noticed and said look im just asking her a question alright.

posted April 27, 2013 12:57 AM            

i actually watched one of her interviews and she said all of her songs are about this one guy who she never actually had a relationship with, it was love at first sight with him. she i guess saw him for a little bit and he was gone from her life forever, but im pretty sure she was never actually close to this guy. she fell in love with his looks as well, described him to be very handsome in her eyes

classic venus square pluto for ya, how awful because from the vibe and sound to her songs makes it seem as though she had a husband who died on her or something, or her whole family died, but to make albums about one guy she never was in a relationship with....wow, this aspect must be torture

posted December 18, 2013 08:40 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I read in Jan Spiller's "Aspects in Astrology" (Book) that people with venus square pluto natally really yearn to be in a relationship, but that when they finally are with that person, they want to run away. Preferably, screaming. It happens to me so much. Does that happen to you, too, if you have this aspect? The book says the person will create as much drama as possible so as to push the other person away, but in reality, they're just trying to test someone's love for them (oh lovely pluto, how I love thee. That's such a scorpion thing to do, isn't it?)

Btw here is a good link: http://tribes.tribe.net/venuspluto

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Its your indecisive libra rising and not Venus-Pluto!!!

posted December 18, 2013 08:55 AM            

I can joke about such things, but when it becomes real, I go to hide.

There's another feeling to this. Even if I wouldn't be afraid of being rejected, I'd still be scared of relationship. It's like, being with a person all the time, you would eventually bore that person to death, and not have anything to say. And what after that? You would have to change partner and bore them to death too. Seems unrealistic I know.

I've got a friend that doesn't seem to be ever bored of me, but that's only a friend, and I'm not gonna turn gay because of that.
I guess if I wanted a real relationship I'd have to share same sense of humour and a few other small things, that normally ppl in relationship wouldn't even recognise.