posted July 11, 2013 06:54 AM            

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Camilla & Charles (no birth-times);

The closest I could find was in Geo;
Chiron/Sun opp. (2,50). Not much for those love birds!

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Ok, I made a little mistake here.

Instead of the SUN I meant the NN.

So they have a Composite Chiron/NN opp with the same orb.

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I'm looking for more..

At pretty first sight I notice this..

(Btw, this is *NOT* backed up by anything mentioned in this thread before BUT.. I know David Cochrane calls it a "MIXED MIDPOINT ALIGNMENT")

Camilla;

- Saturn 9'57 Leo
- Chiron 2'31 Scorp

Charles;

- Saturn 5'16 Virgo
- Chiron 28'13 Scorp

What's happening ^^ here? This;

- the midpoint of his Saturn and her Chiron = 3'54 Libra/Aries.
- the midpoint of her Saturn and his Chiron = 4'05 Libra/Aries.

Conjunct midpoints of 0'11! (the "mixed midpoint alignment")

Even more interesting is that the Composite Chiron/NN opposition so is somehow *connected* to the Saturn/Chiron 'mixed midpoint alignment'. Why? Well.. Chiron is in both cases PART of it!

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Hm.. my logical mind now says.. then there must also be somehow a connection between both their Saturn/NN. So, let's see if that's the case;

Charles;

- True NN 4'57 Taurus
- Saturn 5'16 Virgo

Camilla;

- True NN 1'21 Gem
- Saturn 9'57 Leo

Well yea.. we see a DW Saturn/NN square .. MY... it's even better than I thought; a TRUE bear hug! (his planets surround hers + ofcourse the Saturn/NN square in Composite by about 4,5)

- The midpoint of his Saturn/NN = 5'07 Cancer/Cap.
- The midpoint of her Saturn/NN = 5'39 Cancer/Cap.

Wow!

That IS something!

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Summary;

The pattern between their Saturn/Chiron/NN consists of;
- a Saturn/NN bear hug (midpoint alignment)
- a Chiron/NN opp. (composite alignment)
- a Saturn/chiron mixed midpoint aligment

= HUGE!

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posted July 11, 2013 09:31 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:

Concl., if you don't find much in the Composite, just look at patterns like this which back up the *Mutual* (with capital M I would say) felt love/lust!

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Hi Mir *waving*

I like that.

posted July 11, 2013 10:48 AM            

(3) composite - natal alignments
My Mom

1.cMoon conj nSun - 1*33'
2.cMoon conj nMercury- 1*47'
3 cMoon conj nDesc - 0*23'
4. cVertex conj nVenus - 1*13'
5. cSaturn opp nMars - 0*51'
6. cUranus opp nVertex - 0*04'
7. cVertex opp nUranus - 0*11'
My Dad

1. cMoon conj nVenus - 0*10'
2. cNN conj nAsc - 0*05'
3. cJupiter conj nSun - 1*51'

posted July 11, 2013 11:27 AM            

Everything that affects the luminaries and angles is just so strong, it is vital, core, right to the soul. And the nodal axis is made up from the relationship between Earth, Sun and Moon. No way for reaching with those!

posted July 12, 2013 07:05 AM            

So, when you were born with the IC at let's say 25 Scorp and your Uranus at 10 Libra (which is exactly 45 degr. *before* the IC) then it seems almost logical that someone born with Uranus at 10 Cap. (which is exactly 45 degr. *after* your IC) could have some profound influence on your life.

And yes.. ^^ then the 1st person gets the Composite Uranus conjunct his natal IC.

And if it's a legitime aspect (like in this case a semi-square ~ 45 degr.) it's a bit more important than if there was NO aspect.

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1. cMoon conj nVenus - 0*10'

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posted July 12, 2013 08:08 AM            

With my ex, I had ALL the traditional great ones, like an exact Sun/Moon trine, venus/mars conjunction, NN/Moon conjunction, Sun/ASC conjunction .. what's left of us?

When I look at the composite we have just one Uranus/Mars opposition. That's it.
No bear hug for what I see.

I find some resonating angles in the Composite/Natal comparison;

- His natal Venus conjunct C. descendant
- My natal Mars conjunct C. descendant
(within 1* both ~ and yes, that's our Venus/Mars conj.)

- His natal Moon conj. C. Sun (1,5)

I guess, that's it.

Ok yess, we had some strrrrong geometry, but... what's that if there are no or little resonating angles, like the ones mentioned in this thread?

posted July 12, 2013 10:08 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:

I guess this is a popular one as in our case cMoon is also conj. his nVenus - 0*03.
But for myself I have no planets at that point, only my AC/MC midpoint by 0'16.

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Make that three!

c-Moon conjuncts his Venus, though with 3 degree orb (just within the frame I personally consider).
c-Moon is also conjunct my Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp. (and btw the ASC/MC-midpoint is one of the most individual and important ones).

BTW I mainly consider that widish conjunction, because he has venus square Pluto natally (4 degree orb), and his Pluto is squared tightly by that composite Moon, and maybe even more importantly c-Mars is conjunct his pLuto by 2 degrees and c-NN is conjunct his Pluto by 1 degree.

posted July 13, 2013 06:46 AM            

Maybe you're right about that AS/MC midpoint although it's a bit easier to imagine a Sun/Moon midpoint. Our strongest natal/composite comparison is indeed also connected to his Sun/Moon midpoint and my Sun; the composite nodal axis.

posted July 13, 2013 06:56 AM            

"Ah yess so it IS popular that cMoon conjunct nVenus and for now the popularity even seems sex-related."
Yes, it seems that it is - at least in our cases- the male Venus being affected by the composite Moon.

"It's an interesting thought that only one position of the moon makes this conjunction possible."
Yes, though of course different set of Moons can arrive at the same composite Moon.
HOWEVER, in relation to US, only one placement of another`s Moon can make for this particulare composite Moon, and then another coincidence has to take place, as his (or even her) Venus has to be near there.
It is quite a lot that has to coincide there, right?

In my parent`s case this is not taking place (though the composite Moon is exactly inconjunct my Dad`s Venus, but we only considered conjunctions - however my parents have a Big bear Hug with Moon and Venus, made up of sesisquares).

"Maybe you're right about that AS/MC midpoint although it's a bit easier to imagine a Sun/Moon midpoint. "
Yes, as ASC and MC are both angles, they might be a little bit passive, even more than other midpoints.

"Our strongest natal/composite comparison is indeed also connected to his Sun/Moon midpoint and my Sun; the composite nodal axis."
That is interesting.

In our case, this composite MOon is conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp (1°22).
Composite Sun is conjunct his Sun/Moon-mp (1°22)
Funny that it is the same orb. LOL

However, at the same time my Sun is also conjunct composite Sun and his Sun/Moon-mp.

posted July 13, 2013 09:41 AM            

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HOWEVER, in relation to US, only one placement of another`s Moon can make for this particulare composite Moon, and then another coincidence has to take place, as his (or even her) Venus has to be near there.
It is quite a lot that has to coincide there, right?

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Aagh yes, from OUR girls perspective.. so less chance for us to meet one and a little bit more for the guy. I was *only* thinking from the guys' perspective... pretty bad news for us as far as chances go

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In our case, this composite MOon is conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp (1°22).
Composite Sun is conjunct his Sun/Moon-mp (1°22)
Funny that it is the same orb. LOL

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Not that funny lol.. lemme guess.. a Sun/moon conjunction in synastry of 2'44?

posted July 13, 2013 10:31 AM            

For the guy there is also just our Moon position that ends up with that particular composite Moon, falling onto their natal Venus.
Interestingly the guy`s ex girlfriend has an Aqua-Moon like me (and a bunch more in Aqua. lol); I don´t know her birthtime, but it is quite possible that her Moon conjuncts mine. lol

"Not that funny lol.. lemme guess.. a Sun/moon conjunction in synastry of 2'44?"
Sun/Moon conjunction of 2°42 actually. lol

But not a DW one, just one direction (his Moon - my Sun).

posted July 13, 2013 11:08 AM            

Example with ex;

My Mars 19'31 aqua.
His Venus 20'46 aqua.

(the ^^ synastry conjunction of 1'15)

His mars 25'26 Gem.
My Venus 29'52 Cancer.

(wherever they ^^ are the final result is the same)

Composite Mars = 22'28 Aries
Composite Venus = 10'19 Taurus

His Venus/Mars midpoint 23'06 Aries/Lib
My Venus/Mars midpoint 9'42 Taurus/Scorp

His V/M midpoint is conjunct C. Mars 0'38
My V/M midpoint is conjunct C. Venus 0'37

(difference in minutes is just the result of leaving out the seconds in calculation)

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Ah jaa.. I forgot there are more possible pairs of Venus and the Moon (for us girls to find) which would make that same configuration with some guy.

Just thinking about my own Moon;
16 Scorp.

guy;

16 Taurus-moon
16 Leo-venus

Voila! And who knows how many many hits there are.. so when it comes to chance, maybe we're even better off..

posted July 15, 2013 02:39 PM            

Did you ever notice you have a WONDERFUL (yea I went back to your synastry to look for such things although I only looked with 1 eye for now) mixed midpoint alignment with your Sag guy? I never ever heard you about this one..

I thought wow!!

The midpoint of his venus and your chiron 7'58 pisces/virgo.
The midpoint of your venus and his chiron 7'52 pisces/virgo.

Ok, what does this mean? Well, imagine the sky.. VENUS was at both birth-moments (yours and his') exactly 14 degr. away from making a Square to Chiron, or 256 degr. ahead of chiron whatever you want! The same angle, the same direction..

posted July 15, 2013 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Ceri tell me!

Did you ever notice you have a WONDERFUL (yea I went back to your synastry to look for such things although I only looked with 1 eye for now) mixed midpoint alignment with your Sag guy? I never ever heard you about this one..

I thought wow!!

The midpoint of his venus and your chiron 7'58 pisces/virgo.
The midpoint of your venus and his chiron 7'52 pisces/virgo.

Ok, what does this mean? Well, imagine the sky.. VENUS was at both birth-moments (yours and his') exactly 14 degr. away from making a Square to Chiron, or 256 degr. ahead of chiron whatever you want! The same angle, the same direction..

.. I find this more than fascinating! Or am I the only one?

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Mir,

wow! I had no clue!
Very fascinating, yes.

What do you think it means though?

posted January 30, 2014 01:53 PM            

I met someone with whom I share a BEAR HUG pattern.

I really like him so I looked at our synastry and I saw... about 'nothing'?

Well yes, an exact Venus-Venus square, an exact Mars-Mars square... Ooow my!

Ok yes, a Sun/Moon trine.. but is that really all?
Ok yes, my vertex exactly conjunct his NN.. but is that all?

And then.. suddenly I got it!

Our Mars/Venus midpoints are exactly conjunct ('30)!

His Mars & Venus in Taurus both. My Mars & Venus in Aqua and Cancer. So mine surround his'.

- His Mars quintile my Venus
- My Mars quintile his Venus
(within '30 both)

Nice!

posted January 30, 2014 01:56 PM            

Love that

A Bear Hug pattern with the 5th harmonic resonance!

posted January 30, 2014 02:53 PM            

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by Mutual cross, do you mean grand cross?

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A Mutual cross aspect is a DW (SAME-degree aspect) in synastry which carried by legitimate aspects (major or minor).