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Lioness
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posted June 23, 2013 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw this movie yesterday on lifetime. It's a true story, I was very much intrigued by the events of these two.


Jodie arias and Travis Alexander.

He was a motivational speaker, but he was also highly religious, he was a Mormon.
She was his his Lilith so to speak, he couldn't resist her.
They had a highly passionate romance for 5 months.

He wanted to keep her a secret, telling friends she is just a friend, she would introduce her self as his gf.
She wasn't Mormon, so he was never considering her as " wife material" only his dirty lilltle secret.
She was his sexual fantasy in all forms..

She became highly jealous, and tried to control him, which lead to the break up.
She then stalked him, he began to see another women..
He wanted nothing to do with her..

Later, he got into an argument with the other girl, and just by chance, Jodie called him..
She was on her way to his house to kill him..
Once she got there, he told her they broke up, and he said to her I want you Jodie, which was exactly what she wanted.
They immediately ended up in bed, afterwards he took a shower.
While he was in the shower, he received a text from the other girl, saying she was ready to talk..
Jodie replied back to the girl, Jodie is here, and I have no need for you anymore, the other girl replied.
Perfect, you said she was only good for one thing, u two deserve each other..
The text set Jodie off, she went into the bathroom, took pictures of him, then stabbed him 29 times, then shot him in the face, and also slit his throat.
It was a brutal death..


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Neither birth times are known


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Doux Rêve
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posted June 23, 2013 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa.

Weird, there doesn't seem to be too much Pluto going on..

What I notice though is that they have NN conjunct Pluto and NN conjunct Saturn in synastry. Quite fateful, itense stuff.

Her Venus/Moon trine his Pluto - she was infatuated with him, a bit too much.

Her Saturn square his Venus/Jupiter.
Omg I have this with someone, hope he won't go nuts and stab me, lol..
Nah but she probably felt unappreciated and wanted to make him pay.

Does she have Mars conjunct Saturn? Looks wide but could still apply.

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posted June 23, 2013 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I notice the nn/Saturn Pluto also..

It seems like it was part if his path for her to become very " Pluto" with him.


I also notice her Lilith is conjunct his Pluto, I wonder if there is a deeper meaning here..

She was totally obsessed, and jealous.

She sent him pictures of her with another man, so he could see he has feelings, and to make him jealous.

He called her a ***** , and ended it..

That's when she started stalking him, slashed his tires, sneak in his house in the middle if the night and take pictures.
She left notes for the other girl, calling her a sinner, knowing she is religious..

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posted June 23, 2013 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes, Pluto conjunct Lilith!
Definitely fits.
Obsession that turns out really bad..

Her Moon / Venus oppose his Neptune, the girl was completely mesmerized by him, didn't see the reality of the whole thing.. ouch.

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posted June 23, 2013 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was very attracted to her, but he was conflicted with his religious values and being with her..

No matter what, he couldn't resist her... Even after she did all those things to him, he immediately jumped right back into bed with her, every time.

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posted June 23, 2013 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the sexy times were probably very good, what can I say.

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posted June 23, 2013 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saw the movie last night also, read alot of articles in the news about the case. Astrology wise, I dont see anything really significant between them, most aspects came from her end. Her being the more attracted one...I think she thought the relationship was more than what it was, and in the end when reality finally sank in for her she lost it. She probably felt used by him, even though he had made it clear to her where she stood with him, regardless she decided she was going to get even with him. Poor guy though, the way he died, no one deserves to be murdered in cold blood like that

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posted June 23, 2013 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wonderful study. Thank you Lioness!

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posted June 23, 2013 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Psyche/Vertex conj. One brought the other soul( the Psyche person did)

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posted June 23, 2013 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another thing I dont understand is how she could go to his funeral and sit among all his family and pretend she didnt do anything. So creepy

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posted June 23, 2013 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
Another thing I dont understand is how she could go to his funeral and sit among all his family and pretend she didnt do anything. So creepy

She has to be a sociopath, i will look and see what I can see there as I just wrote an article on them

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posted June 23, 2013 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone want to do a separate thread with her chart and we can talk about it in terms of a sociopath. I would love to talk about it if someone would be willing to post it.

Mars conj saturn. She could be obsessed with drive/passion/sexuality
What saturn touches can become an obsession.

Something, very interesting. Ceres conj Sun and Venus. Ceres is as potent as heroin in the chart of a sociopath. I will tell you why. They can make you feel like the most loved person in the world. Ceres is unconditional love.

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posted June 23, 2013 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Curious to see her natal chart as well, would post it myself but restricted to phone now. She does have sociopathic ways about her, very cold woman.

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posted June 23, 2013 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
Curious to see her natal chart as well, would post it myself but restricted to phone now. She does have sociopathic ways about her, very cold woman.

yep, we don't have time but we could venture guesses as Houses would help.

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posted June 23, 2013 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux R�ve:
Well, the sexy times were probably very good, what can I say.

lol....
that is something i would say too...
plutonic sarcastic humour at its best

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posted June 23, 2013 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrotheme has her as a possible Taurus ASC, and interestingly, Neptune in 8th house(unusual illusions). First person I have ever seen with that placement.

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posted June 23, 2013 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for psytaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrodatabank seems to have their charts now.


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posted June 23, 2013 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
she has nessus conjunt sun #um

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posted June 23, 2013 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the NN (collective) transit to Jodi's ASC is causing a renewed interest into their tragic story because I, as well, have been looking into their synastry, natals, reports, etc to try and make sense of it all. Her birth time has been known for a while now - July 9 1980 at 1:52 am in Salinas, California. His has been added just last week I believe - 12:01 am on July 28 1977, in Riverside, California

I was also surprised that aside from Pluto conjunct NN, their synastry didn't have the markers of obsession that I expected. Certainty fateful. Looking at their charts, They both have Taurus ASC, Uranus in 7th, her Cancer Sun and his sun in 4th and Gemini Venus among some other things in common. BUT she has Pluto square Sun tight, trine Venus and Venus opposite Neptune (sacrificial love, self destructive and apparently "other" destructive love). He, on the other hand, has Uranus square Sun but Pluto Square Moon and trine Mars. His ruler of 7th trine ruler of 12th fitting the theme of her Venus-Neptune.

I think Jodi's True BML conjunct Pluto exact contributed to the "creepy sexuality" she exudes as mentioned by many who knew her.

By astrological standards they actually had quite a bit in "complimentary common". And I wouldn't have been surprised if he had changed his mind and given "them" a chance in the future. Truly heart breaking.

Edit to add: Eros square Psyche exact in the composite along with Sun trine Moon and NN conjunct Vertex in synastry are not only significant and striking but truly deep. If only Neptune didn't square the nodes..

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posted June 23, 2013 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
did see this monstrosity on telly a while back. just awful. hell hath no fury like crazy woman scorned.
she seems sweet and innocent enough, very manipulating and persuasive with bambi like facial features as well, but she really is just a batsh*t crazy ***** .

lemme just snowball with some asteroids and natal-draco stuff:

her - him (n.=natal)

her natal nessus opposite his draco sun
her lilith conjunct his pluto
her natal sun exactly opposite his draco sun
her draco saturn square his natal sun (4 deg)
her n.pluto square his draco sun
her n.sun square his draco chiron
chiron features a number of times, mostly in both squares and trines.

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posted June 23, 2013 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iliketurtles:
she has nessus conjunt sun #um

How close?

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posted June 23, 2013 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh cool, you found their birth times..

I was expecting a lot more heavy Pluto between them also.

I think the strong sexual attraction was their moon/mars conjunction...
It was opps their Neptune's, in both of their h8..

They have Venus sq Saturn which was probably part of the glue that kept them going back.
Along with nn/Saturn
Looks heavy...

I agree I think one day, he might of tried to stick it through with her, but I think her jealousy old have ruined it..
She was crazy jealous. To the point of psycho jealousy.

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posted June 23, 2013 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That relationship was one big MESS. Let it be a lesson to everyone else on what to avoid in life. This kind of situation!

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posted June 23, 2013 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, do we know her time? That is really good.

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posted June 23, 2013 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceres conj Venus. As i said, Ceres is THE sexiest aspect in an otherwise sexy person. If a person can have charisma and tenderness, that person can get anyone imo

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