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Doux Rêve
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posted June 27, 2013 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars conjunct Pluto people are actually usually really mellow.
I once read it's because Pluto "annihilates" Mars, making it less firey and more "covert", hidden, secretive and less forward.

That's why we almost never explode (at least when around people), unlike other, more volatile aspects.

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posted June 27, 2013 01:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL Mellow is not a word i would say best fits him.
He has moon in libra conjunct neptune exact and he's still very tense.
He's really antsy/hyper and is really impatient.

Well his pluto is on the anaretic degree so it's probably lacking with subtlety.

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Doux Rêve
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posted June 27, 2013 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah actually now that I think about it, mellow isn't a good word to describe it, lol.

All I meant is that it's not as bad as the hard aspects.

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posted June 27, 2013 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and, Kerosene, you have Mars & Pluto singletons, and they aspect each other, so.. that'd make you quite fierce.

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posted November 14, 2013 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 'industry twin' is Gillian Anderson, and we both have Venus/Mars=Sun exact. Love it.

I've also noticed a lot of celebrities do indeed have this position. A good 80% of my intimates as well. There's a wonderful sizzle and spark in us both, so when we combine our forces, it's contagious. I don't relate to the definition here, though, and even though they're not bringing along 12H Venus in Virgo - they really don't, either. I really think it gives a strong magnetism which is essential if you're in show business. Otherwise, you'll just get trampled by those more charismatic.

Both of my parents have it, too; it's like a 'family gift'. We're an extremely dynamic, charismatic force. My father and I have performed together several times in recent years, and my parents are both musicians, having written and released songs together decades back. It's a great energy. A natural 'star quality'.

I'M more intrigued by the fact my Near-Twin and I both have Venus/Mars=Pluto, to be honest.

Anyone got any good info on that one?

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posted November 15, 2013 10:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay how do I know if my midpoint makes an aspect to my partner

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posted November 15, 2013 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus/mars midpoint conjunct my moon/asc

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posted November 15, 2013 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
max orbit?

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posted November 15, 2013 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably 2 orb max

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posted November 15, 2013 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
For me the Venus/Mars-mp is more about attraction, while the Venus/Pluto-mp is more (darkly) intense.
As you mentioned there comes power with it, bordering compulsion or obsession.

My own Venus/Pluto-mp is on 22.36 Scorpio, roughly conjunct my 12th house cusp on 21.03 Scorpio.


Anything to say about Eros/Psyche midpoints? I have Karma conjunct mine (Sun ~1,5 from both), Nodes square it, so I expect I'd be more inclined to take notice of something like that at my end.

Venus/Pluto MP at ~22 Virgo opposite the BML that Astrodienst automatically list. Mean one or whatever it is. My Juno/Eros MP is also 22,5 Virgo.

Like I've said before, my Pluto is the antiscion of that BML. You suggested "veiled intensity" as one interpretation for it, but what about the following pattern?

Pluto + BML antiscia.
Pluto and Venus quindecile BML (obsession?)
BML is opposite Venus/Pluto MP

I think that might also suggest a lot about why I last year suddenly took notice of someone whose last name asteroid in my chart falls at 23 Virgo with my Akashi and more. If I have their DOB right, their progressed Sun was 22 Virgo last year and 23 Virgo now. My progressed Mars has also been squaring the spot the past couple of years. The person's Jupiter squares 22 Virgo and Chiron falls at 22 Pisces. Painful something, given Lilith?

My Eros is conjunct the first name asteroid for him and turns out their Eros is conjunct my first name asteroid in their chart, too. Alas, their Eros is only at 24 Pisces so it's a bit wide of all the 22 degree stuff, and the other h#something Lilith was at 26 Pisces (trine my NN) so not a precise hit there either.

Venus/Mars I don't remember feeling that particularly in my case but I have tended to notice people with something around 22 Pisces before as well. My antiscion DC is early 23 Scorpio, btw. Do you want to start mixing solstice points and midpoints with your Venus/Pluto there, too?

EDIT: What about midpoints with the NN? Sun, Moon, Venus midpoints with the Node/s? Would those be potentially sensitive contacts?

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posted November 17, 2013 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping back to first page.

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posted November 17, 2013 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ail221:
Probably 2 orb max

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posted November 17, 2013 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
That makes sense, Venus/Pluto. My Venus-Pluto MP is in early Scorpio...I've been wondering why I'm so strongly affected by authors born at that time. I almost dated a guy whose sun was there-- he asked me out several times-- but frankly the intensity of my attraction to him was scary. I didn't want someone having power over my emotions like that.

My Venus/Mars MP is conjunct Beyonce's sun. I've always resonated strongly with her music, even though I'm not into pop culture, and it's just weird that I listen to her.


Faith, would you consider venus/pluto MP conjunct NN powerful in synastry?

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posted November 18, 2013 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 18, 2013 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by Keela:

EDIT: What about midpoints with the NN? Sun, Moon, Venus midpoints with the Node/s? Would those be potentially sensitive contacts?

Yes. Stripping away the spiritual connotations, in a very basic sense the nodal axis is simply about connections.
So it can of course trigger midpoints.

For example:

NN=Venus/Mars would be a very physical, sexual connection in synastry.

Eros/Psyche-mp. very potent yes.

On Kim Falconer`s site she put this:

"Eros/Psyche MP Awakens desire to merge, sexual energy is intense, deep and emotive. Transformation whether taboo or not." http://www.falconastrology.com/astro_compatibility.htm


I have my own exactly conjunct/opposite Part of Marriage, ACTOR and LUCIFER.
I think Achilles might be somewhere nearby as well. All in Taurus in my 5th house. lol

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posted November 18, 2013 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 18, 2013 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Hmm come to think of it, my Venus/Pluto MP *IS* conjunct my ex-soulmate's NN.

He and I have a ton of positive synastry aspects, so I can't pin it on that aspect alone, but I think it was yet another binding thing...difficult for me to recover from.

Edit: Almost like the ghost of my most intense feelings (Venus-Pluto MP in Scorpio) is still hanging around in this place where I feel he is destined to arrive (NN)... eventually.



I loved your description!

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posted November 18, 2013 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone experienced their mars/Venus midpoint getting hit by someone's Venus?

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posted November 18, 2013 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Anyone experienced their mars/Venus midpoint getting hit by someone's Venus?

Yes. A couple I know have this ...he (mars/venus) wants and loves her (venus), she responds with love to his amorous advances.

I Also know a couple with with MP mars /venus = juno. This is a "love and marriage ..... Goes together like a horse and carriage" aspect.

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posted November 18, 2013 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very interesting!

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posted November 18, 2013 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Anyone experienced their mars/Venus midpoint getting hit by someone's Venus?

Yes but I wasn't sexually attracted to them. We were friends but that's it.

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posted November 18, 2013 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes. Stripping away the spiritual connotations, in a very basic sense the nodal axis is simply about connections.
So it can of course trigger midpoints.

For example:

NN=Venus/Mars would be a very physical, sexual connection in synastry.

Eros/Psyche-mp. very potent yes.

On Kim Falconer`s site she put this:

"Eros/Psyche MP Awakens desire to merge, sexual energy is intense, deep and emotive. Transformation whether taboo or not."


No, I'm asking about Venus/NN, Mars/NN and such. Midpoints with the Nodes.

My own Eros/Psyche midpoint happens to fall on my Karma on the nodal midpoint, square NN/SN, but what I wanted some vibing on was if and how midpoints of planets to the TN/NN end feature.

I'm asking if NN having to do with possible destiny or where we're headed pulls in any interesting midpoint-style effects. Like with Venus, maybe something about what we're destined to love or feel attracted to or maybe have some financial connections to or whatever? ASC/NN midpoint for... what? All I know is mine's on my IC.

Another example. I have my Venus/NN midpoint around 16,5 degrees Libra and current synastry I've been looking at has someone with their Mars on that degree. The Mars has seemed to be pretty singular and not really doing much otherwise but then with this midpoint talk here I end up going hmmh and wondering if 16 Libra actually does something at my end after all. I see midpoints as being a fairly subtle influence but that's what this thread is about, to see what people's experiences have been with the Venus/Mars and Venus/Pluto or whatever midpoint. So do people have anything interesting with their Venus/NN MP and does it do anything particular?

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posted November 18, 2013 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus/Mars midpoint in Libra in the 3rd House conjunct Mercury exact.
Hehe, and I've always said learning was my passion.

It's in Libra!
What a surprise -.-

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posted November 18, 2013 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that link wont work for me, anybody have a different one? i tried in pullen astrology on astro.com but i can't read that chart. I need lists not graphics lol

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