posted June 26, 2013 12:04 PM            

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Venus and Mars, the “point of passion”

It’s well-known that where Venus and Mars meet tells much of the tale of your sexuality, and your reaction to that of others. As a conjunction, Venus and Mars together show up disproportionately in the charts of people in show business, politics, the military, industry management, and other areas where compelling personal magnetism and charisma are critical to success. People with that aspect just have a sparkle and effulgent energy that’s almost palpable. You get stimulated just being in their presence. The reason? Perhaps because any cycle of progressions or transits hits both their Venus and Mars at the same time, so desire and action go hand in hand, and they just naturally get what they want just by reaching for it, something that at times can appear almost magical, although it may be totally circumstantial. It means that for them it’s all right and indeed customary to get what they want, ask for more, and get it again. And, when it’s not available, because of an adverse transit, they don’t even want it. So different from individuals with Venus and Mars in square or opposition, where hesitation and disappointment make for lack of confidence, bad timing, shyness, or even bumbling. Not that the style can’t be made to work for you, but it takes more effort and some painful mistakes along the way.

Whatever your relationship of Venus and Mars, or even if you haven’t any major aspect between them, what’s on their midpoint will kick them into action according to the added planet involved. So, people with the Sun or Ascendant as the midpoint of Venus and Mars tend to be particularly self-obsessed or even narcissistic, as they are literally getting off on their own ego/personality or reflection in the mirror. No fault (though it can be off-putting), and often it’s quite a charming effect, as it’s just the way it feels to them, and they get rewarded for it. Jupiter there has an ebullient effect, producing a large appetite for sex and life in general. Planets traditionally looked upon as malefics tend to tamp down sexuality or give a strong, controlling or compulsive aspect to personal needs and gratification. Such people can be highly-charged and even dangerously attractive or repulsive, depending upon how they are exercising their preferences and upon whom.

Inflame and Melt

In synastry, the effect can sometimes be even more telling. When you meet someone with Ascendant or the Lights on your Venus/Mars, that person can enflame and melt you on the spot, without either of you even knowing why. They literally awake your inner passion – not just sexual, but total life energy and attraction. It’s definitely what great love affairs are made of, and it can be as effective a bond as the more traditional Light-on-Light marriage aspect. On the other hand, if that’s the only contact, it can make for merely transient affair or, quite oppositely, lasting but largely unrequited love. Similarly, a marriage without any Venus-Mars contact may be a great friendship but without a sexual core – or, either or both may pursue sexuality and/or life passions elsewhere.

Transits and progressions have their place as well. A transit of Pluto to your Venus/Mars midpoint axis can shut down the dynamic only to have it blossom in a new form after the transit has past. Jupiter crossing the axis, on the other hand, can bring new life where it was dormant and cause positive new ground to be broken. Those with Venus/Mars at the winter or summer solstice areas have been getting a taste of both lately.

Even locational astrology is useful in taking full advantage of this midpoint. Areas where your Venus/Mars is on the Angles will tend to have a special magnetism for you, and when you go there, you’ll feel your feet rise a bit above the ground as the energy of the place incites and excites you, carrying you along. Go there and be thrilled.

Deep Background – Your Magical Spot

The developmental aspects of Venus and Mars are critically important as well. The process of learning how to get (Mars) what you want (Venus) begins with the first Mars return (initializing the “terrible twos”) and evolves throughout childhood until adolescence begins with the first Jupiter return, by which time your sexuality has already been mostly formed. The inner desires and strategies, the way you handle your evolving growth chemistry as you relate (or don’t) to both sexes of your age group and adults as well, all develop then. If you’re a straight arrow, it’s because that period was largely obstruction-free – and if you’re weird, it’s because you had to devise some unusual strategies to bring need in line with action, all in those formative years. And later, when you hit someone with an important planet right on your Venus/Mars midpoint, it all washes over you and you’re carried off by the familiar flood.

So watch your “point of passion” and treasure it like the hard-earned jewel that it is. Although it can be highly sexual, above all it’s your sparkle, your joie de vivre, your inner charisma that allows you to shine and take center stage while everyone looks on with approval. And when you find others with something special there, expect to share your stage with them and enjoy the play.

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Mine is at 11.18 Virgo. I like Virgos But this degree is widely trine my sun, so that's to be expected.

posted June 26, 2013 12:59 PM              

my ASC and Mars are both tightly (under one degree) conjunct Jude Law`s Venus/Mars-mp.

In another life....

BTW I love findings like this article.

However, for some reason I would associate midpoint of passion more with Venus/Pluto.

My own Venus/Mars-mp is on 20 Sagittarius, and has been heavily activated by important planets (through conjunction or square), when I developed crushlike feelings. The planet in question usually describing the nature of the crush.

The first time I fell, his Venus squared my Venus/Mars-mp (he was a Libra).
SEcond time around his Mars squared my Venus/Mars-mp, it definitely was an intense sexual attraction on my side (and an unrequited one).

Does even work with celebrities. As I mentioned, in the case of Mr Law his Mercury conjuncts my Venus/Mars-mp by 0°09 (his KARMA is there as well). The most outstanding thing that struck me about him was his voice,w hich fits the Mercurial vibe I think.

posted June 26, 2013 01:16 PM              

My own Venus/Pluto-mp is on 22.36 Scorpio, roughly conjunct my 12th house cusp on 21.03 Scorpio.
Interestingly it hasn`t been triggered as strongly as my Venus/Mars-mp in synastries (unless we count Uranus conjunct it?)

Also my progressed Venus has beein squaring it a few years ago, directly followed by Tr Pluto conjunct natal Venus, which now is being followed by pr Moon squared by Pluto. I am in such a Plutonian time emotionally I guess. lol

my solar arc Venus/Pluto is currently on 1.50 Cap, and has been triggered by the fullmoon, along with Tr Pluto being opposite my sp Moon and squaring atal Pluto. No wonder I became so crazy for a weekend. lol

posted June 26, 2013 01:40 PM            

My Venus-Mars midpoint is in 22 Virgo. It's therefore exactly trine Uranus [0 dg. orb], and also trine Neptune. It's conjunct my Moon by about three degrees and Chiron by 4 but that's kind of wide for an asteroid...? Also not too far from my MC.

I feel like I can see how it plays out in real life. I'm very open. I like eccentric people but I also want stability and I feel it's from Uranus being in Capricorn. I like change and emotionality in relationships. I'm bisexual and I'm passionate about gay rights and human rights from the Uranus trine. The Moon near this point makes me very sensitive in relationships and with sex. I need emotionality or else it feels gross to me. I don't like casual sex. Virgo influence makes me feel like I need to be 'perfect' when I'm with someone sexually. I wanna have the best body I can for the person, I think, or else I can't enjoy myself. It makes me a little neurotic. I feel the Neptune trine makes me too idealistic. I can put partners on a pedestal sometimes. My perceptions of people in relationships aren't always accurate. I need spiritual merging.

I feel like Neptune touching this point is the most challenging since it leads to altered perceptions, rose colored views and also as I said, the intense desperate desire for spiritual connection in sex and let's face it, we live in a hook-up culture. A lot of people cannot handle this. It depresses me....

posted June 26, 2013 01:43 PM              

My first crush`s Venus was squaring my Venus/Mars-mp - and he was a libra.

my second crush`s Mars was squaring my Venus/Mars-mp - he was an Aries.

Mr Law`s Mercury on my Venus/Mars-mp, now he is not a Gemini or Virgo, however Mercury is in his 1st house ruling his DESC.

posted June 26, 2013 01:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW with midpoints only conjunctions, oppositions and squares within very tight orb (are considered,a s these aspects provide the necessary energy to trigger the midpoint (the planets are not really there, it is just the midpoint of their energy)(.

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posted June 26, 2013 02:16 PM              

Actually I have two concepts of aspect-interpreation in the back of my head; I am still not sure which is the right one.

The first is based on the sign-relationship between planets.

However the second one is in alignment with the midpoint patterns and actually has the basis int he phases of the moon which is nothing else but the everchanging relationship between Sun, Moon and Earth, THE most basic parts of ANY horoscope (plus the angles and nodal axis of course).

Is it really a coincidence that the major phases of the Moon, when we notice her change, are expressions of conjunction (new Moon), opposition (full moon) and square quarter MOon)?
Or is it a coincidence that the ancients celebrated their solar festivities in accordance with the 4th (and to a certain degree 8th) harmonic aspects?

I don´t think so. What i think is that the output of energy is the strongest at these pivotal times. This is when things "happen".
The soft aspects are more like a cushion or underlying soft melody, but they don´t take centerstage. Ever.
(unless they are emphasized by a midpoint pattern. A trine of Venus and Jupiter with sextiles to Sun on the midpoint, will OF COURSE be very prominent).

And yes, I agree on the composite-thoughts. Actually, if you think about it, every opposition in the composite is just an alignment with the far midpoint, thus conjunctions and oppositions in composites are almost the same aspect, as the composite is a chart of midpoints, and every circle always has two midpoints, directly opposite each other.

In a composite the aspect I pay the most atention to is conjunction and opposition.

And also the square. That is where the action happens between two people.
A composite with only sextiles or trines?
The relationship will never get off the ground. Actually no relationship will ever get off the ground, if the progressions aren`t falling in place.

Same for a synastry. Only sextiles and trines make for people who could get along with each other well, but probably would never even notice each other.
But luckily there are just very few synastries that do not have a few dynamic aspects as well.

It is not the square that makes people incompatible; it just increases the energetic response to each other, and if the planets happen to not get along like Mars and Saturn, and you have that increased attention on both, then it is like fingernails screeching on a chalkboard.
However if the planets naturally get along, wonderful.
Which is the reason why I am never afraid of a square bnetween Moon and Venus for example. Actually Moon and Venus are so passive that they really need the pepper a square can provide.

Just my opinion obviously. But I am a Sag, and Sags are always right.

posted June 26, 2013 02:27 PM              

I just got carried away.

posted June 26, 2013 03:08 PM            

My ASC and Jupiter are both at 24 degrees. I don't find the description of the ASC conjunction to the midpoint to be accurate, but I sort of relate to the Jupiter conjunction.

The man I'm obsessed with (and have been for years as I believe he is my soul mate who ran) has his Sun, Moon, and Mercury conjunct my midpoint. My Juno conjuncts his Venus/Mars midpoint. The description of the conjunction in synastry totally resonates with me.

posted June 26, 2013 03:21 PM              

I don't use midpoints that much, what does this mean?

posted June 26, 2013 09:36 PM            

Oh I guess that means its conjunct my ascendant. Hmph. In my first house.

Anyways. My midpoint is conjunct my boyfriends sun and moon and Jupiter. My Venus and Vertex is trine/sextile his VM midpoint by 1 and 3. Which also mean my Saturn and Uranus sextile and trines it too bc they're opposed my Venus. Also loosely aspects my Neptune.

I think at one point of my life I was more narcissistic than not. I do think I rose above it. But now I'm questioning if I'm just saying that because I think I'm great. I'm screwed.

posted June 26, 2013 09:36 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
It means you gel well with people who have planets in Aries, Libra, Leo, and Aquarius conjunct or opposite your midpoints providing they are benefic planets. Malefic planets could be another story...

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