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Topic: Sociopaths and astrology?
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m.blade
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posted July 26, 2013 07:21 AM
  
What aspects, signs or house placements do we look for in sociopaths?Could there have been a deep childhood memory which can cause sociopaths? What aspects are common in sociopaths? IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue
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posted July 26, 2013 07:46 AM
OK, i'm not trying to ruffle any feathers here. I believe that one placement doesn't sum up a person at all. I have noted, and talking to some of my friends -- who i don't believe are true sociopaths but have gotten them to admit to being a "splash of a sociopath". These people all had Sagittarius luminaries. Some sociopaths MO isn't to kill people, it's to live their life, getting away with what they want, using people, playing games with people and not feeling remorse for any of their actions. I know two people I suspect are sociopaths. One actually admitted to me she thought she was one but in a backwards way. She also was the one who clued me into the other one being one too. They both had difficult relationships with parents. I have birth charts for both, although one is rounded to an hour so I don't trust that one completely. ^
one is
Taurus/Sagittarius/Cancer RIsing
other is
Sagittarius/Cancer/Cancer Rising.
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Ami Anne
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posted July 26, 2013 08:10 AM
I have many articles on this because I am fascinated by it.
To me, these are some astrological indicators1. Very, very stressed Jupiter. Without it, I don't think you could be a sociopath. This is one man's opinion 2.A colder Moon but I am not sure what would happen with a very afflicted warmer moon. 3. Afflictions to the Moon I am constantly studying charts to come up with insights. You really have to do that in Astrology, imo To put it another way, a warm cancer moon with no/few afflictions would not be a sociopath. A Jupiter with no/few afflictions would be a sociopath. I know several sociopaths, as friends, and have done their charts but I am not an expert just a humble student.
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peachbeigeblue
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posted July 26, 2013 08:15 AM
^ I think it's worth mentioning the one Sagittarius who admitted she was one had moon in the 12th. moon aspects:
conjunct AC
sesquiquadrate sun & mercury
semi-square jupiter
opposite neptune
trine pluto jupiter in gemini, rx 0 degrees
opposite sun & mercury
sextile mars
inconjunct uranus and saturn
sextile MC second person (taurus)
moon aspects:
sesquiquadrate sun
inconjunct mercury
opposite venus
sesquiquadrate jupiter
conjunct saturn and uranus
opposite chiron
opposite ascendant jupiter aspects:
conjunct sun
(sesquiquadrate moon)
semi-square venus
square mars
sesquiquadrate uranus
trine neptune
opposite pluto
semi-square chiron
sextile AC & MC IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 26, 2013 08:15 AM
Peach
Why don't you put up the charts?------------------
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Aquacheeka
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posted July 26, 2013 08:28 AM
Excess of water could lead to sociopathy imo.Or at least PERCEIVED sociopathy; the inability to regulate one's emotions so that they just allow them to be expressed (even the more primal ones). IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 26, 2013 08:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Excess of water could lead to sociopathy imo.Or at least PERCEIVED sociopathy; the inability to regulate one's emotions so that they just allow them to be expressed (even the more primal ones).
I saw a chart of a serial killer. I can't remember his name. He had all water. He had a grand trine in water and I can't remember the rest but I was amazed. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted July 26, 2013 08:31 AM
Sorry to be a pain Peach but can you put up degrees cuz that helps to weigh aspects.------------------
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Aquacheeka
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posted July 26, 2013 08:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I saw a chart of a serial killer. I can't remember his name. He had all water. He had a grand trine in water and I can't remember the rest but I was amazed.
I remember seeing the FBI stats that showed water was the element most likely to be in prison for committing violent crimes (with Cancers leading the way at #1). I wasn't surprised at all. If the chart has a huge water stellium, watch out. These people can be violent.
Water is all about extremes. The best and worst people in the world are heavily water.
Air is the exact opposite; irritating and insensitive but basically harmless. IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue
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posted July 26, 2013 08:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sorry to be a pain Peach but can you put up degrees cuz that helps to weigh aspects.
Yes, I'm headed into work but I will post the charts after I get home. Sorry to make you wait! If I can figure how to do it from my phone, I ll try to do that earlier IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue
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posted July 26, 2013 08:43 AM
sorry for the screenshot, but it's faster
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peachbeigeblue
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posted July 26, 2013 08:44 AM
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Ami Anne
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posted July 26, 2013 09:00 AM
Very cool. Thanks Peach  ------------------
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Doux Rêve
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posted July 26, 2013 11:56 AM
Please define "sociopath".IP: Logged |
m.blade
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posted July 26, 2013 12:02 PM
a person with anti personality disorder; someone who mimics emotionIP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted July 26, 2013 12:04 PM
Sounds like an afflicted Uranus.The charts peach posted both have it, by the way. IP: Logged |
page one
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posted July 26, 2013 12:31 PM
If you're defining "sociopath" as peach has, as someone who manipulates other people to get their way, I would look for afflictions with the seventh house, both planets and rulers. I'd also look at hard aspects to Neptune for the potential for deceit and pretense. Maybe the 12th house as well.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 26, 2013 12:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Please define "sociopath".
No empathy ------------------
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Doux Rêve
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posted July 26, 2013 12:38 PM
You guys all have different definitions!But okay, someone who does whatever they please with no concern about others - that could be a Jupiter / Uranus issue (self-righteousness, no sense of "rules" and what's right or wrong, amorality). Someone who has no empathy - now that's tricky because I don't know anyone who has zero empathy.
Most human beings have at least some sense of empathy, even if it's deeply buried.
But an afflicted Saturn and / or Uranus could make it harder for the person to "access" their more compassionate side, from my experience.
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Ami Anne
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posted July 26, 2013 03:06 PM
Yes, Doux
Little empathy would be a better way to say it.------------------
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greatquincunx
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posted July 26, 2013 03:52 PM
Sounds like a busted moon.IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue
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posted July 26, 2013 11:19 PM
Ted bundy had sag sun sag moon. Moon opp Uranus.
Jupiter Square Pluto & Saturn
I gota look at it closer. It was the first famous sociopath chart I looked at on astro theme.
I'm about to go to bed but I wanted to spit that out really quick. IP: Logged |
libraschoice77
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posted July 27, 2013 12:09 AM
John Wayne Gacy was a double Pisces, kind of shocked when I found out  IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted July 27, 2013 12:23 AM
It's weird that I've met two Sag influenced people who both described themselves as sociopaths (literally said "I'm a sociopath") and yet they also both claimed to have big hearts. I guess Jupiter causes cognitive dissonance.... ???IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted July 27, 2013 01:07 AM
I also know a Sag who thinks he's a sociopath! IP: Logged |
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