posted August 18, 2013 11:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
It's the angle person who is "into" the "planet person", at least initially. Touch my angle with a luminary, personal planet, one of your angle rulers or a "personalized" outer planet and you'll have my attention, perhaps not in a romantic sense (that would depend on whether or not you fulfill my "relationship signature"), but in SOME sense.

It's amazing how many of my friends and interests are clustered on my angles. I thought it was just a weird fluke that I'd have to buy all these B-day cards for friends/family in January, March, June and September. Now that I have a better understanding of astrology, it makes perfect sense! Sun, Mercury and Venus are all within 48 degrees of each other so some personal planet tends to make a tight angle contact with people born in these months. Of course, there are the others who end up touching it with their Moon or Mars, but they all touch.

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I've read, and experienced, just the opposite. A good friend of mine has her sun conjunct my ascendant and when I was over at her place for a cookout with some of her other closest friends (whom I'd never met before), she went gaga over me, gushing to her friends about me to the point where I was almost embarrassed.

posted August 18, 2013 11:38 PM            

But we were like a year apart.
So is that really effective?
Our venus and mars are together
So my mars squares his uranus...

posted August 18, 2013 11:51 PM            

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
I've read, and experienced, just the opposite. A good friend of mine has her sun conjunct my ascendant. . .

Also, Liz Greene. . .

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Ah, but this is a "good friend", someone you know well and who knows you well! That is very different. But what about when you first met? We're talking first impressions here (like "love at first sight" mentioned in OP). If you read back some of my previous comments on this thread, I talked about the INITIAL attraction. If I didn't emphasize that enough, I'm sorry for creating any confusion.

Liz Greene is a very respected astrologer. She knows her stuff. But there are other astrologers that I respect as much who have clarified for me the importance of WHEN a contact from an outer planet, such as Neptune, will result in such idolization and when it doesn't.

Let's pretend you have an angle point in Capricorn at 20 degrees. Now everyone in the entire world who was born between 1992-1995 has their Neptune making contact to your angle. Will they all idolize you? No. Will you idolize all of them? Again, no. But SOME of those people will have Neptune important in their chart and may come to your attention without an actual meeting (say through their music or acting careers) and you find them intriguing. Other may cross paths with you in a way where you make eye contact. Again, you'll notice them. IF the contact results in a relationship forming where they GET TO KNOW you, THEN they might in turn idolize you.

But there will be others whose Neptune can contact your angle and Neptune isn't emphasized within their chart. Those won't get your attention or if they do, it would be from some other interaspect between your charts. Perhaps in a long-term relationship that includes sharing living space, even an unemphasized Neptune could make itself felt eventually and either way. But that wouldn't be in an immediate
and strongly felt manner.

I hope that clarifies what I mean.

posted August 19, 2013 12:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
So my mars squares his uranus...

Wouldn't the mars person feel it more?

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posted August 19, 2013 12:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Ah, but this is a "good friend", someone you know well and who knows you well! That is very different. But what about when you first met?

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When we first met she acted the same way toward me, not I toward her. At the cookout, she was telling her friends "ever since we've known each other we've been hot for each other but never acted on it." I was never hot for her but didn't say anything so I wouldn't embarrass her in front of her friends. She apparently felt much more amorous toward me, whereas I only viewed her as a friend.

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We're talking first impressions here (like "love at first sight" mentioned in OP). If you read back some of my previous comments on this thread, I talked about the INITIAL attraction. If I didn't emphasize that enough, I'm sorry for creating any confusion.

Liz Greene is a very respected astrologer. She knows her stuff. But there are other astrologers that I respect as much who have clarified for me the importance of WHEN a contact from an outer planet, such as Neptune, will result in such idolization and when it doesn't.

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We’ll simply have to "agree to disagree" then. You’ll have astrologers you tend to turn to and I’ll have mine. Greene also gave real-life examples and didn’t just base her information on theory and speculation. I'm guessing the astrologers you turn to have done the same, so, again, we'll agree to disagree.

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Let's pretend you have an angle point in Capricorn at 20 degrees. Now everyone in the entire world who was born between 1992-1995 has their Neptune making contact to your angle. Will they all idolize you? No. Will you idolize all of them? Again, no. But SOME of those people will have Neptune important in their chart and may come to your attention without an actual meeting (say through their music or acting careers) and you find them intriguing. Other may cross paths with you in a way where you make eye contact. Again, you'll notice them. IF the contact results in a relationship forming where they GET TO KNOW you, THEN they might in turn idolize you.

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Please use italics and/or bold font rather than all caps. (When responding to me at least. Thanks.)

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But there will be others whose Neptune can contact your angle and Neptune isn't emphasized within their chart. Those won't get your attention or if they do, it would be from some other interaspect between your charts. Perhaps in a long-term relationship that includes sharing living space, even an unemphasized Neptune could make itself felt eventually and either way. But that wouldn't be in an immediate
and strongly felt manner.

I hope that clarifies what I mean.

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posted August 19, 2013 12:57 AM            

There's a lot of outer planets with aspects to venus/mars going both ways.

My Uranus was Square her Mars.
My Venus Square her Saturn to name two of them.

There was simply no way for it to have worked out due to circumstances.
I can't tell you what she felt EXACTLY or how quickly.

I can tell you that from the very first time I ever saw her, she had my full attention. I couldn't figure out the incredible pull I had to her but no doubt. Before I had spoken one word, knew her name or anything. Each time I saw her I was hyper-focused and noticed little else. She was beautiful, but a bigger girl, so it wasn't her body or things like that. Although she was well proportioned.

posted August 19, 2013 01:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
BTW 12th houser, should I assume by your name that you've got a strong emphasis on the 12th house in your chart? That would make you very Neptunian and might explain your friend's reaction. Just wondering.

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Except her Sun conjuncts my ascendant, not her Neptune.

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There are so many things to consider and weigh in astrology and I think that's why a dozen different astrologers can draw 12 different conclusions and all be able to back them up. Endlessly fascinating IMO.

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I'm thinking that professional astrologers will tend to form a consensus of opinion based on years of experience and insight (individual and collective), rather than each cocooning him or herself in their own separate astrology cul-de-sacs.

posted August 20, 2013 08:22 PM            

There is definitely a strong pull or attraction but I feel like almost a fear as well as if we were to get together there would be some kind of explosive energy. Things are definitely never consistent either that's for sure, we are always being interrupted which makes it difficult to relax together for 5 minutes even.

posted August 20, 2013 10:06 PM            

I have strong Saturn and Uranus in my chart. If someone else have their Saturn and Uranus conjunct mine but do not have their Saturn and Uranus aspected in their chart, but make all the connections to mine - who feels it more?