posted August 19, 2013 06:25 AM            

BUT they can be either felt in either a platonic way, or a romantic/mating way. No matter what the planetary combo is.

In this thread I’m going to address the varied factors in synastry that I’ve seen ‘switch on’ physical attraction aspects.

There is actually a platonic version of Venus/Mars, Venus/Uranus, Pluto/Mars and so on... After all it’s entirely possible that we could have this aspect with a friend or family member. You have Venus/Mars with grandma? No problem, maybe she just likes to give you dating advice.

The Vertex Axis, and the 5th,7th, and 8th houses, describe our 'type'. When they are switched on due to house ruler synastry, or house overlays in synastry, our romantic 'feelers' are switched on.

I have come to believe over time that the above is what determines whether a synastry is expressed platonically or romantically.

Having the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, plus the Vertex Axis, activated in synastry ‘switches on’ traditional physical attraction synastry from it's platonic version to its romantic version.

When a person’s natal chart strongly resembles the symbolism of the 5th,7th, or 8th houses on multiple levels, this also switches on physical attraction synastry. Someone’s chart strongly matching the symbolism of our ‘Love Houses’ awakens us in a romantic way as well.

My formula is basically this…

Physical attraction synastry + 5th, 7th, and 8th house activation in syanstry/Vertex synastry = strong romantic attractions.

Now when I say the 5th, 7th, and 8th house activation, what I mean is that one person will activate all these houses in your chart on multiple different levels… Using house overlays (planets in houses), house ruler synastry, or symbolism matches

For example, a love interest may match the symbolism of your 7th house… As in you have Uranus in the 7th house and they’re an Aquarius… And they could have their Moon residing in your 5th house… And they could have their Venus conjunct your 8th house ruler… MULTIPLE DIFFERENT LEVELS.

The strongest attractions we have with others usually involve all three of the relationship houses being activated in some fashion or another. And this seems to flip a switch in our psyches between platonic associate to potential mate.

For the Vertex Axis, well it’s not essential for an attraction to occur, a relationship can manage fine without Vertex synastry…

However, what Vertex synastry does give in a romantic context is a feeling the relationship is ‘fated’ and meaningful, and that this person gives us something that we’ve been craving deep down. There’s a kooky synchronicity in relationships with Vertex synastry, where we may be shocked by what we have in common with a person who aspects our vertex. People who aspect our vertex tend to stand out in our minds, and captivate us.

When mixed with a reasonable amount of 5th, 7th, 8th house type synastry, a conjunction to either end of the Vertex Axis can really set an attraction off, in an almost ‘over the top’ way.

posted August 19, 2013 06:26 AM            

I’ve seen the secondary 7th house seem to activate attraction synastry as well. Venus conjunct Mars, combined some secondary 7th house action in synastry, packs quite a punch in the romantic sense.

If anyone doesn’t know what I’m talking about with secondary 7th house synastry, it’s when some puts planets in the house ruled by the sign on your Dsc. For example, I have a Gemini Dsc and so my secondary 7th house is the 3rd house (because the 3rd house is ruled by Gemini). The secondary 7th house enhances attraction when it’s activated in synastry and it shows extra details about what we’re attracted in others for partnership.

FOR ANYONE STILL CONFUSED ABOUT LOCATING THE ‘SECONDARY DSC’…

Here’s a list of the house cusps to look to as an extension of your DSC for each rising sign. These house cusps are symbolically linked to the sign on your DSC… showing what other traits you are attracted to in others, apart from just what the DSC alone shows.

Aries rising, Libra DSC… The 7th House has double importance.

Taurus rising, Scorpio DSC… Look to the 8th House.

Gemini rising, Sagittarius DSC… Look to the 9th House

Cancer rising, Capricorn DSC… Look to the 10th House

Leo rising, Aquarius DSC… Look to the 11th House

Virgo rising, Pisces DSC… Look to the 12th House

Libra rising, Aries DSC… Look to the 1st House

Scorpio rising, Taurus DSC… Look to the 2nd House

Sagittarius rising, Gemini DSC… Look to the 3rd House

Capricorn rising, Cancer DSC… Look to the 4th House

Aquarius rising, Leo DSC… Look to the 5th House

Pisces rising, Virgo DSC… Look to the 6th House

Can you see the pattern now?

Celebrity examples…

Ryan Reynolds has late Virgo rising, with a Pisces Dsc. His secondary 7th house is the 12th house. So he’s attracted to Pisces and 12th house energy in his love life. He married Blake Lively who has a stellium in early Virgo (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and possibly the Moon) all falling into Ryan’s 12th house… Blake’s Asc is unknown, so we can only guess as to why she was attracted to Ryan.

Angelina Jolie has her planets falling in Brad Pitt’s primary 5th 7th and 8th houses. Brad has Sagittarius rising with Gemini on the 7th house cusp, Aries on the 5th house cusp, and Cancer on the 8th house cusp. Angelina has Sun/Mercury in Gemini, Moon/Mars in Aries, and Venus in Cancer. From Angelina’s side, she has Capricorn on her Dsc. This matches Pitt’s Capricorn Moon/Venus energy, but not his Sagittarius Sun… Well, Angelina’s secondary Dsc is her 10th house cusp. She likes 10th house energy in her love life because of her Capricorn Dsc. Angelina has Jupiter in Aries conjunct her Mc… And Brad is a Sag Asc/Sun ruled by his Jupiter also in Aries…

Katie Holmes has Leo rising with Aqua on the DSC. She likes Aquarius and 11th house energy in her love life. Tom Cruise’s Sun falls in Cancer in her 11th house… Tom Cruise has Scorpio rising with a Taurus DSC. He likes Taurus and 2nd house energy in his love life. Katie’s Sun falls in Sagittarius in his 2nd house. (I know they’re divorced now, but since they were married in the 1st place I’m keeping the example)

Since Tom and Katie are now divorced, lets have a look at their exes, and how they fit into this pattern as well.

Before Tom, Katie was engaged to Chris Klein who had his Sun in Pisces in her 8th house, his Mars in Pisces in her 7th house, and his Venus in Aquarius in her 6th house but in the sign of her Dsc. Plus his Mercury in Aries trines her 5th house ruler Jupiter. He doesn’t hit her secondary Dsc (the 11th house) but since he has his planets in her primary 7th and 8th houses this isn’t necessary for attraction to occur.

Tom has previously been married to Nicole Kidman, and had a several year long relationship with Penelope Cruz.

With Nicole, her Sun in Gemini was in Tom’s primary 8th house, and her Moon in Sagittarius was in was in Tom’s 2nd house. His secondary 7th house due to his Taurus Dsc. So Nicole's Moon is in Tom's secondary 7th house.

Interestingly, from Nicole’s side she has the same Asc as Tom (Scorpio), giving her a Taurus Dsc. Her 2nd house is her secondary 7th house as well. In Nicole’s case, she has the Moon in her second house (the previously mentioned Sagittarius Moon) which adds an attraction to Cancer/Moon types to her profile. Naturally, this is part of why she fell for Tom (a Cancer Sun), and her current love Keith Urban (He has a Cancer Asc, and a Cancer Moon). Also Keith is a Scorpio Sun (Tom’s Asc) and Nicole’s Pisces 5th house cusp ruler Neptune is in Scorpio.

With Penelope, she very much influenced Tom’s primary 7th, and 5th houses. Her Sun in Taurus was smack in his 7th house, and her Pisces Venus and Jupiter were in his 5th house.

From Penelope’s side, she her chart shows an attraction to Tom both in a very obvious primary way, and in a secondary Dsc way. She has a Cancer rising, with a Capricorn Dsc, and her Dsc ruler Saturn is in Cancer (Tom’s Sun sign). Her 5th house cusp is Scorpio (Tom’s Asc). Penelope’s Capricorn Dsc means she likes Capricorn and 10th house energy in her love life. Her 10th house cusp is Aries, ruled by Mars in Cancer (Tom’s Sun sign again). And, Penelope’s Sun in early Taurus falls at the end of her 10th house, adding an attraction for Leo/Sun people to her profile. Both Tom and Javier Bardem (Penelope’s current husband) have Moon in Leo. Speaking of Javier, his Venus/Saturn conjunction in Aries falls into her 10th house (and thus her secondary 7th house). The combination of Venus and Saturn also symbolically matches her Capricorn Dsc. Javier is a Pisces Sun, and this resonates with Penelope’s Neptune in the 5th house, as well as her Pisces Venus.

posted August 19, 2013 06:27 AM            

Another factor I see as potentially turning on physical attraction synastry from it’s platonic version to it’s romantic version, are strong resonations with the positions of Venus and Mars in our charts, to our partner’s chart. Especially Venus for men, and Mars for women. A typical example is she has Mars in Leo and he has the sign Leo strong in his chart.

However… we could also look at the women’s 5th house, the house ruled by Leo, to gather more information about this women’s masculine ideals. Synastry involving her 5th house would enhance her perception that a guy fits her images of how a man should be, and increase her attraction to him. It would be the same if she had Mars in Taurus, then you’d look at her 2nd house for this information.

The Sun and the Moon seem to refer to the Masculine and Feminine archetypes in their entirety… like the full spectrum… where as Venus and Mars seem to refer to specifically the notion of a man or a women as a love interest…

Venus is the beautiful sweet young maiden, and Mars is the aggressive heroic young Man…

That the condition of our natal Mars and Venus refer to our Masculine and Feminine Ideals in relation to courtship and romance. And the house ruled by our Mars and Venus signs shows more information about these ideals… Thus the house symbolically connected to our Mars and Venus signs shows our SECONDARY Masculine and Feminine Ideals…

FINDING OUR SECONDARY FEMINIE IDEALS FOR VENUS IN…

Aries… look at the condition of your natal 1st house
Taurus… look at the condition of your natal 2nd house
Gemini… look at the condition of your natal 3rd house
Cancer… look at the condition of your natal house
Leo… look at the condition of your natal 5th house
Virgo… look at the condition of your natal 6th house
Libra… look at the condition of your natal 7th house
Scorpio… look at the condition of your natal 8th house
Sagittarius… look at the condition of your natal 9th house
Capricorn… look at the condition of your natal 10th house
Aquarius… look at the condition of your natal 11th house
Pisces…. look at the condition of your natal 12th house

When you look at the natal house connected to your Venus sign, it gives extra information about the traits you admire in women, especially in courtship situations, then Venus by sign and house alone can give. For a man it may show more about the type of women that he wants, and for a women it may show more about the type of women she that aspires to be….

FINDING OUR SECONDARY MASCULINE IDEALS FOR MARS IN…

Aries… look at the condition of your natal 1st house
Taurus… look at the condition of your natal 2nd house
Gemini… look at the condition of your natal 3rd house
Cancer… look at the condition of your natal house
Leo… look at the condition of your natal 5th house
Virgo… look at the condition of your natal 6th house
Libra… look at the condition of your natal 7th house
Scorpio… look at the condition of your natal 8th house
Sagittarius… look at the condition of your natal 9th house
Capricorn… look at the condition of your natal 10th house
Aquarius… look at the condition of your natal 11th house
Pisces…. look at the condition of your natal 12th house

When you look at the natal house connected to your Mars sign, it gives extra information about the traits you admire in men, especially in courtship situations, then Mars by sign and house alone can give. For a women it may show more about the type of man that she wants, and for a men it may show more about the type of man he that aspires to be….

The point of bringing all of this up is that strong synastry involving a women’s secondary Mars house, or a man’s secondary Venus house, could also be a strong factor in ’switching on’ physical attraction synastry… Along with the 5th, 7th and 8th house synastry, the secondary 7th house (and maybe the secondary 5th and 7th houses), and the Vertex Axis.

posted August 19, 2013 06:28 AM            

I’ve found the asteroids Eros, Psyche, and Juno, to be especially telling about extra little details to do with taste. Other asteroids work too, but these three have become personal favorites. The are like ‘accessories’ to the ‘bulk’ of our taste as shown by the 5th, 7th and 8th houses, and the Vertex Axis.

Synastry involving these asteroids enhances attraction, and each has a certain affinity with the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. Not that they are directly associated with these houses, it’s just that I can see a similarity in the energy patterns.

I've always thought of Eros as a tiny little dart with a similar flavor to the 5th house. It has this whole euphoria/excitement thing going on. It’s about chemistry and falling in love, and is a very ‘romantic’ asteroid.

Psyche has more of an 8th house flavor, she has to do with private encounters, intuition, and our journey to reach loving union. Psyche also seems to show how we 'jump through hoops' for a loved one, and how we use our resourcefulness to solve problems in relationships (She has good intentions but she can be a little sneaky. Like in the myth, she uses a candle to view Eros's face even though she wasn't supposed to).

Juno has a 7th house type flavor. Juno give extra details about what we 'require' from a partner in order for them to be a suitable mate, and about what traits inspire our liking, approval, commitment, and loyalty. Juno also seems to have some type of association with what we view as beautiful/ attractive. I've read before that Juno has to do with adornment, accessories, and decoration. Juno is sort of like a mini-Venus that's more interesting in commitment then seeking pleasure.

I wouldn’t say asteroid synastry can ‘turn on’ attraction synastry, the word I mentioned before is ‘ENHANCE‘. Synastry involving Eros, Psyche and Juno adds power to an already existing attraction shown in synastry. I’ve noticed there is something magical about Eros/Psyche aspects especially.

Sometimes I do think that Juno is a lot more powerful then people realize though. When I first learned about Juno I was a little bit curious but I didn’t think that much of it. Over time though, I’ve seen repeated instances of people’s Juno signs showing up somewhere in the partner’s chart. I strongly suspect Juno’s way more significant in how we choose our partners then a lot of people realize. I admit I don’t have proof but there sure is a lot of 'circumstantial evidence'.

posted August 19, 2013 06:32 AM            

SYNASTRY OF ATTRACTION: WHY IT DOES OR DOESN’T WORK http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/216505.html

Quick reminder of Attraction Factors [apart from synastry] http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/217355.html

Unrequited Love http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/206782.html

posted August 19, 2013 07:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:

The Vertex Axis, and the 5th,7th, and 8th houses, describe our 'type'. When they are switched on due to house ruler synastry, or house overlays in synastry, our romantic 'feelers' are switched on.

I have come to believe over time that the above is what determines whether a synastry is expressed platonically or romantically.

Having the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, plus the Vertex Axis, activated in synastry ‘switches on’ traditional physical attraction synastry from it's platonic version to its romantic version.

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I'm not sure I understand. What if the person activating those houses in your chart is a family member? Are you saying it'll automatically be a romantic attraction?

posted August 19, 2013 08:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Emme5:
I'm not sure I understand. What if the person activating those houses in your chart is a family member? Are you saying it'll automatically be a romantic attraction?

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Of course, we have to be flexible with how we interpret things. Not all people who aspect our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses are going to be our romantic partners. Our 5th house can also be just about our kids and who we adore, admire, and find entertaining on a platonic level. The 7th house might just refer to our best friend. And the 8th house could just be our therapist, of the person we confide in about personal issues… We may not ALWAYS be romantically attracted to people who influence our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. But when we are attracted the person in question will almost certainly influence our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. This is because what the 5th, 7th, and 8th house related synastry does, is open up the POSSIBILITY that we’ll see that person in a romantic light. More may be needed in terms of synastry for an attraction to fully develop, like traditional physical attraction synastry such as Venus/Mars, Sun/Moon and what not…If we then also have other factors that contribute to physical attraction in synastry, like a steamy Moon/Mars aspect, a full blown ’falling in love’ type situation can arise.

posted August 19, 2013 08:26 AM            

When it comes to houses in attraction, one of the important points I always want to emphasize is that it’s important to pay attention to what house RULER is doing and not just the signs on the cusps themselves.

The ruler of your Dsc, and it’s position by house, sign and aspect will contribute to your attraction pattern as well. Other houses associated with romantic attraction are the 5th and the 8th houses… Also by the sign on the cusp AND it’s ruler position by house, sign and aspect. Most people are attracted to a combination of these various 5th, 7th, and 8th house energies in their charts. The Vertex Axis is also very telling along with the asteroid Juno.

In my case I’ve got a Sagittarius Asc, with Gemini on the Dsc. Sagittarius people usually attract me more then Gemini, but that’s because Mercury ruling my Dsc is in Sagittarius, and Jupiter is in the 7th house. Juno is in Sagittarius as well. Occasionally I do find myself pulled in by someone with important Gemini planets in line with my Dsc sign… Especially if the person has other placements in their chart that support attraction.

The 7th house is who we long to be with and relate to on a daily basis. People who influence our 7th house are like best friends who inspire our affection and make us feel complete. I’m not just talking about the Dsc sign itself… But also the Dsc ruler, and any planets in the7th. People with planets in our 7th house, or ASPECTING the ruler of the 7th tend to inspire feelings of warmth, liking and affection within us. We usually like to just ‘be’ with these people and bask in their energy. Unless the synastry is harsh, in which case we could actually see them as an adversary. It’s always important to take the rest of the synastry into consideration.

The 5th house is more about flirting, courtship, and ‘romance‘. The characteristics of our 5th house are what we find exciting during the initial stages of the relationship, what impresses us, and who we ’fall in love’ with. My 5th house cusp is Aries ruled by Mars in Leo, and I’m really attracted to passionate fiery types. Courage, honesty, and a kind of innocent playful spirit really attracts me in that EPIC ’He Could Sweep Me Off My Feet’ type of way. I’m sure there’s a male equivalent to that. Something like ‘She Blew Me Away’.

Anyway, my point is that the 5th house rules the RUSH of excitement that we get when we’re really impressed or infatuated by somebody verses the 7th house which is more about loving companionship. The 5th house is associated with the dating phase of the relationship where there is of more an element of risk involved… Will we make it to an exclusive partnership? Will they dump us? Will we dump them? This is the phase of relationship most movies and romance novels are about. It’s about how we experience our personal ’love stories’ in life, before our relationships made it to the exclusive 7th house stage. However, people who have planets in our 5th house or ASPECTING the ruler of the 5th house can give us this type of feeling over long periods of time, like it’s part of the relationship.

The 8th house has to do with intimacy. Where we share our secrets and become financially, emotionally and sexually entwined with another. This is usually after an exclusive relationship has been established. The 8th house of private intimacy comes after the 7th house of marriage. We go through a courtship, establish a committed relationship, and then combine our lives with that other person. The 8th house it where me merge ourselves with a chosen partner. I’ve got Cancer on the 8th house cusp, ruled by the Moon also in Cancer in the 8th house. I’m often attracted to those with Scorpio and Cancer placements in their charts along with a Fire or Air Sun, Cancer and Scorpio Moons seem to especially appeal to me.

People who have planets in our 8th house or ASPECTING the 8th house ruler can often attract us in a magnetic kind of way. They intrigue us, and we want to figure them out at the deepest possible level. To know everything about them and get inside them so to speak. It’s almost like we’re pulled toward them by an invisible force. The 8th house has a lot to do with sexual attraction, and private sharing between partners.

Of course, we have to be flexible with how we interpret things. Not all people who aspect our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses are going to be our romantic partners. Our 5th house can also be just about our kids and who we adore, admire, and find entertaining on a platonic level. The 7th house might just refer to our best friend. And the 8th house could just be our therapist, of the person we confide in about personal issues… We may not ALWAYS be romantically attracted to people who influence our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. But when we are attracted the person in question will almost certainly influence our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. This is because what the 5th, 7th, and 8th house related synastry does, is open up the POSSIBILITY that we’ll see that person in a romantic light. More may be needed in terms of synastry for an attraction to fully develop, like traditional physical attraction synastry such as Venus/Mars, Sun/Moon and what not…If we then also have other factors that contribute to physical attraction in synastry, like a steamy Moon/Mars aspect, a full blown ’falling in love’ type situation can arise.

What I’ve noticed, is that our romantic partners usually do have natal charts that resemble a combination of our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, along with the Vertex Axis and Juno. The most potent romantic attractions we’ll experience come from a combination of things in synastry. It’s sort of a balancing act between having physical attraction aspects like Mars/Venus, and Sun/Moon with somebody… And having them also activate our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses…

This is done by the partner aspecting the house cusp ruler, the partner having planets actually in the house in question, or though the partner having a natal chart that symbolically resembles the house in question (For example, Jupiter in the 7th house attracts partner with Jupiter conjunct Sun, or planets in Sagittarius). And one more point about ‘planets in houses’. If a planet falls in one of the attraction houses (the 5th, 7th or 8th houses), and does not make any important aspects to your chart, you may not even notice that person. This is because there is no energy connection between that person’s planet in your attraction house, and the rest of your chart. No energy connection, no feelings! However, if someone has a planet in one of your attraction houses and it does aspect your planets… The result can be fireworks! This is because not only is this planet of theirs in your area of romance, partnership, or intimacy, but it also interacts with your chart on an energy level though aspects. Aspects are like portals of energy flowing between planets. If someone aspects other parts of your chart from your 5th, 7th or 8th houses in synastry they ‘energize’ in this area, and bring the themes of that house into reality for you.

My formula is basically this…

posted August 19, 2013 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Of course, we have to be flexible with how we interpret things. Not all people who aspect our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses are going to be our romantic partners. Our 5th house can also be just about our kids and who we adore, admire, and find entertaining on a platonic level. The 7th house might just refer to our best friend. And the 8th house could just be our therapist, of the person we confide in about personal issues… We may not ALWAYS be romantically attracted to people who influence our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. But when we are attracted the person in question will almost certainly influence our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. This is because what the 5th, 7th, and 8th house related synastry does, is open up the POSSIBILITY that we’ll see that person in a romantic light. More may be needed in terms of synastry for an attraction to fully develop, like traditional physical attraction synastry such as Venus/Mars, Sun/Moon and what not…If we then also have other factors that contribute to physical attraction in synastry, like a steamy Moon/Mars aspect, a full blown ’falling in love’ type situation can arise.

I copied this from my other post on the [b]'Quick reminder of Attraction Factors [apart from synastry]' thread.[/B]

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posted August 19, 2013 08:31 AM            

I’ll elaborate more on my “Physical attaction synastry + 5th, 7th, and 8th house activation in syanstry = strong romantic attractions“ theory.
What I’ve noticed is that romantic attraction comes from a combination of mostly two factors, and that both are needed for an attraction to be fully developed. The 1st factor concerns whether or not someone matches your relationship ideals, and the second factor concerns whether or not you have synastry aspects with the person in question that produce physical attraction.

FACTORS THAT TELL IF SOMEONE IS YOUR TYPE

Factor 1.) Does the person in question match your relationship ideals? Are they your ‘type’? Our relationship ideals are shown though our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, the Vertex Axis, and Juno. People seem to be your ‘type’ when… Planets in the partner’s chart aspect the rulers of your 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, or planets in the partner’s chart are actually in your 5th, 7th, or 8th houses… And when planets in the partner’s chart aspect your Vertex Axis or Juno. Or are in the same sign as your Juno, or in the same sign as your Vertex or Antivertex (particularly if they are within orb of a conjunction or opposition to the Vertex). When we really fall in love, the person in question usually influences and matches our relationship ideals in multiple different ways. The more ways your partner resembles and aspects your 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, Vertex Axis, and Juno, the better!

AND…

Factor 2.) Do you find the person in question physically attractive? Does their mere presence turn you on? This is revealed through traditional physical attraction synastry aspects like Venus/Mars, Sun/Moon, Pluto/Mars, Moon/Mars, Venus/Sun and so on (I’m sure most of us a familiar with the traditional physical attraction synastry aspects by now, there are like a million threads on them). Usually when we’re really attracted to someone we’ll have at least one, and often several, of these types of aspects with the partner.

HERE’S WHY BOTH FACTORS ARE NECESSARY

From my observation, sometimes the traditional physical attraction aspects can actually be present in synastry without any real sexual attraction occurring… For instance, it’s entirely possible to have a Venus/Mars aspect with someone random, like a co-worker, and not feel a romantic/sexual attraction to them at all. HOWEVER, when the person in question also has planets influencing your 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, the Vertex Axis, or Juno, this tends to ACTIVATE any traditional physical attraction synastry aspects you have with them. So that the aspects can be felt in a sexual/romantic kind of way, rather then just in a platonic kind of way.

Personally, I find the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses to be crucial in attraction for this reason. Not just because of the planets in houses thing (not just overlays!). When the rulers of these houses aspect important parts of the partner’s chart, this too activates already existing physical attraction synastry aspects. A few people have already pointed this out. Over the years, I’ve come to observe that people influencing each other’s 5th, 7th, and 8th houses (by overlay OR house ruler aspects), Vertex, and Juno, is what ACTIVATES physical attraction synastry.

The 5th, 7th and 8th houses, the Vertex Axis, and Juno ACTIVATE synastry so that any potential attraction in the synastry can be felt. When people hit these parts of our chart it tends to ‘open our eyes’ to them as a romantic possibility. Almost like they flip a switch in our psyche.

Sometimes traditional physical attraction aspects can be felt faintly without the Vertex, Juno, and 5th, 7th, and 8th house interconnections between charts. This is usually when the aspect is really tight and powerful. Still, traditional physical attraction aspects never seem to reach their full potential unless they are ‘activated’ by the above mentioned factors. Only very mild attraction occurs at best when they are lacking. It takes more then Venus/Mars or Sun/Moon synastry to really fall in love, the person also needs to be our type.

FACTORS TO TELL IF WE ARE SOMEONE ELSE’S TYPE

If we are going to wonder about who will fall in love with us, we would look at the partner’s chart to see how we influence THEIR 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, THEIR Vertex, and THEIR Juno… Mutual attraction happens when both people show in each other’s charts in this way.

We check our partner’s chart to see if we fit THEIR pattern, to gauge their potential attraction towards us…

With sign matching, and house ruler aspects for the partner’s 5th, 7th, and 8th houses.

Aspects to the partner’s Vertex and Antivertex (Especially oppositions and conjunctions, although any aspect ‘works‘). To some extent sign matches work with the Vertex Axis as well. The sign on either side of the Vertex Axis can have an attractive pull, and some people favor one side over the other.

And Juno by sign, house, and aspect, definitely describes something of what we need in someone in order to be willing to commit to them. Juno has some similarities to the 7th house in this way. If we aspect the partner’s Juno, or if our chart resemble their Juno, we seem more like we have ‘serious relationship’ potential for them.

LOVE HOUSES, AND THE RULER VS CUSP DELIMA…

One thing that I've noticed about the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses attraction theory, is that different people latch onto certain parts of their pattern more then the rest of it. Meaning, some people are more attracted to the sign of the cusp ruler then the then the sign on the cusp itself. Some people are more attracted to a planet in the house in question (Like, having Venus in the 7th and liking Libra/Taurus energy). While others really do find the actual sign on the cusp more attractive. For whatever reason, perhaps it relates to childhood experiences or the way the rest of our chart is set up, different people 'prioritize' different parts of their 7th house pattern in terms of attraction. And sometimes the part that you're most attracted to changes over your lifespan, depending on your experience. Which part you 'prioritize' also varies from house to house (between the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses).

Like in my case, I've got Aries on the 5th house cusp ruled by Mars in Leo. For some reason I'm just more attracted to Aries then Leo. Although I do find Leo energy attractive in a way, the attraction to Aries is stronger. I seem to have prioritized the sign on my 5th house cusp over it's ruler.

My 7th house is different yet again. I've got a Gemini Dsc ruled by Mercury in Sagittarius, plus Jupiter in the 7th house. I can find Gemini energy attractive, but usually I'm overwhelmingly more attracted to Sagittarius. The Sag part of my 7th house outweighs the Gemini part. A guy having a strong Mercury in his chart, or strong Mercury synastry with me is very attractive though.

My 8th house is Cancer ruled by the Moon also in Cancer in the 8th house. 8th house ruler in the 8th. I really do seem to have a thing for Cancer and Scorpio by Moon sign, although usually not by Sun signs. I seem to prefer masculine Sun signs, especially Aries and Sagittarius, with water Moons.

I'll admit I'm not entirely sure why people prioritize different parts of their relationship houses. I just know that it happens. If two people both had Taurus on the Dsc ruled by Venus in Sagittarius, one could lean more towards liking Taurus, while the other could learn more towards liking Sagittarius. And yet a third person, with the exact same configuration, could go for both signs pretty much equally. It varies with each person. Each of the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses will attract us in some way though. We may just prioritize different parts of each of these houses in terms of what we're attracted to. Different people seem to latch onto different parts of their own personal 5th, 7th and 8th houses, and have favoritism regarding the sign on the cusp, the sign of it’s ruler, or a planet that house.

Also, different houses will refer to different parts of our partner's chart.

In my case my 8th house usually relates to his Moon sign, and his Sun sign will usually relate to either my 5th, or 7th house. It works best if we look at our partners whole chart in terms of how they relate to our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. And it helps if we look beyond the signs on the cusps. Not taking the rulers into account is not only limiting but misleading. I also take note of the house in which the cusp rulers fall. This too can be very illuminating.

JUNO

This Asteroid has really caught my attention lately.

posted August 19, 2013 08:46 AM            

I think it really hammers the message home. I'm posting a bunch of my old stuff for any newbie's out there who haven't seen it yet.

SYNASTRY OF ATTRACTION: WHY IT DOES OR DOESN’T WORK

Okay. So we've probably all had that experience of meeting somebody with whom we share strong physical attraction synastry, and yet for some puzzling reason we're just not into them like that. And other times we’re head-over-heels. I think the answer to why this happens in the majority of cases is HOUSE RELATED SYNASTRY! Attraction is not purely just about what planets are aspecting what other planets. We can have Venus/Mars with one person and not harbor any romantic feelings for them at all… And have the very same aspect with a different person and be overwhelmingly attracted. This is because the ROLE a person will be playing in our lives is also largely determined by how they influence our natal houses in synastry.

I’ve been into astrology since I’ve been an early teen, and I’ve got a lot of observation under my belt. Of the people around me, myself, and celebrity case studies. As I’ve honed my passion for astrology I’ve started to notice certain patterns, especially with regard to the astrology of romantic attraction. One themes I’ve noticed is that HOUSE RELATED SYNASTRY 'ACTIVATES' ATTRACTION PRODUCING INTERPLANETARY ASPECTS. It’s seems that the physical attraction potential of certain astrological aspects can be either ‘activated’ or not depending on how the other person influences our natal chart through house ruler synastry, house overlays, and house symbolism matches.

But before I get into the house synastry thing, I’ll outline the aspects typically associated with physical attraction (Most of us know these already).

Astrology is REALLY flexible when it comes to physical attraction. There are many combinations of planets that indicate this...

PLANETARY COMBINATIONS INDICATING PHYSICAL ATTRACTION.

Sun/Moon, Sun/Venus, Sun/Mars, Sun/Pluto, Moon/Venus, Moon/Mars, Moon/Pluto, Venus/Asc, Venus/Venus, Venus/Mars, Venus/Uranus, Venus/Pluto, Mars/Asc, Mars/Mars, Mars/Uranus, Mars/Pluto...

Different planetary combinations seem to work better for different people depending on their natal charts, and the rest of the synastry with the partner. I've noticed most people do have their personal favorites based on their experiences. All of the above aspects do work, it's just a matter of preference.

I've also noticed that even if people are the same sex and are straight, that these aspects work for liking each other's look even in just a platonic way. There haven been a few women whose sensual look/vibe I really liked who had Venus in Capricorn in my 2nd house opposite my Cancer Moon in the 8th. These aspects can describe simply admiring someone's attractive features in general, as well to the more romantic/sexual types of attractions.

I also want to mention Venus/Mercury. This aspect is not typically associated with physical attraction in the purest sense. But it can indicate finding each other's mannerisms attractive, flirty little interactions, and good kissing (so I've heard).

WHY HOUSE SYNASTRY IS IMPORTANT.

The 5th, 7th, and 8th houses are the power players when it comes to who we find attractive, and why we find them attractive. If we have a typical physical attraction interplanetary aspect with somebody, and we don't feel it that way, I suspect that the main reason for this is that they may not be hitting any of the 'relationship houses' (5th, 7th, and 8th) in synastry….

People can influence our relationship houses either by putting planets in that house through overlays (Especially if the overlaying planets make important aspects to your natal chart), or by aspecting the ruler of that house in your chart with their natal planets. When people touch the 5th, 7th, or 8th houses in your chart with their natal placements they bring the theme of that house to ‘life’ for you. Almost like they are turning that house ‘on’.

Another way for someone to activate your relationship houses is with a symbolism match... For instance, if you have a Scorpio Dsc, with Uranus in the 7th, and Pluto in Libra ruling the Dsc, and the other person has strong Scorpio/Pluto, Aquarius/Uranus, and/or Libra/Venus in their chart, then they match the symbolism of your 7th house with the makeup of their chart... Creating a symbolism match to your taste and preferences. Symbolism matches are what makes a person seem like they are your ‘type’ in terms of personality and style.

HOUSE SYNASTRY AND PHYSICAL ATTRACTION PLANETARY ASPECTS.

I've noticed over time that house related synastry seems to 'activate' any physical attraction aspects that exist in your synastry with somebody. Like it flicks the switch in our psyche that distinguishes between a platonic relationship and a potential lover. The stronger and more intense such 5th/7th/8th house related synastry is, the more intense and complete the attraction to that person will be.

If, for example, you have Moon trine Mars with somebody, and they also had their Sun in your 5th house, their Venus sextiling your 7th house ruler, and their Moon in you 8th house trining your 7th house ruler… This house related synastry would likely flick the Moon/Mars aspect ‘on’ in a romantic/sexual way. If such house related synastry involving the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses is missing, the Moon/Mars aspect would likely stay platonic, and you may like that person’s energy in a friendly way, but not find them particularly attractive.

The 5th, 7th, and 8th houses (The relationship houses) in synastry seem to be the keys to ‘activating’ the romantic attraction potential of any synastry that you have with somebody.

ACTIVATING ALL THREE OF THE HOUSES IS IMPORTANT.

In romantic relationships, it does work best if the person in question influences all three of the relationship houses in your chart some way or another. The three relationship houses (the 5th, 7th, and 8th) each represent one of the three important levels in all romantic relationships. Romance (the 5th), partnership (7th) and intimacy (8th).

If your partner’s chart connects to all three of these houses, this is a very good sign. As it indicates that the relationship feels balanced and complete for you. Having your partner connect to all three of these houses in at least some way is actually not as hard as it sounds. Your partner could aspect the ruler of one of these houses. Have planets actually in these houses. Or simply have a natal chart that matches the symbolism of one or more of these houses. For example, you have Jupiter in the 7th house, and your partner has important natal placements in Sagittarius (a symbolism match).

It’s also an extremely good sign if your partner, in turn, has all three of their relationship houses activated by you (in some why). Something as simple as a sextile to the ruler of one of the 5th, 7th, or 8th houses will be effective, especially if the other two relationship houses are strong in synastry. This way the relationship will ‘feel’ balanced and complete for your partner.

REQUITED AND UNREQUITED LOVE.

The strongest house 'relationship house' activated in the synastry for each person will determine the flavor of the relationship for them. If only one or two of these 'relationship houses' are activated for one or both of the people in the relationship, then the relationship can feel lopsided or somehow incomplete. Sometimes this even leads to an unrequited love situation, if one person has strong activation of their relationship houses in synastry, while the other person has weak or no activation of their relationship houses.

Of course if there is no relationship house activation for either person in a situation, even if they have Mars conjunct Venus, the relationship will likely stay in the platonic zone. A reverse to this is also true. If you have no typical physical attraction synastry aspects with someone, and yet they activate your relationship houses very strongly, you could see them as very much your type in terms of personality and style, and yet there seems to be a spark missing... Like there’s just not enough passion to build a connection on.

The synastry of romance seems to be a rather complicated balance between each person in the relationship having all of three of the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses activated in some way… And also having a couple of really nice typical physical attraction interaspects in the synastry. Both seem to be necessary for a relationship for worthwhile and viable to both parties.

THE THREE FLAVORS OF ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIPS.

I mentioned earlier about how the 'flavor' of a relationship is determined by which relationship houses are strongest for each person in the synastry. The symbolism of 5th, 7th, and 8th houses describe what we like on 3 different levels.

The 5th house is about romantic sparks, infatuation, courtship, and falling in love. It's that euphoric 'RUSH' we get when we first meet that special someone who impresses us big time! The 5th house is all about how and why we fell in love with someone in the first place (Most movies and romance novels are about this part of the relationship).

The 7th house is about what we view as 'partnership material' for the long term. And about who we really like and just want to be with in the most basic of ways. That feeling of tender sweet affection that we have for a loved one... That longing to embrace their whole vibe as a person, interact with them, and know them. This comes from the 7th house (The happy couples in typical American sitcoms exemplify 7th house love).

The 8th house is about the private bond that a couple builds up as they learn to trust each other. The 8th house is where we get intimate, reveal our mutual vulnerabilities, share secrets, and negotiate the power balance in the relationship. It's where we combine forces and unite with our partner, in the deepest, most complete ways possible... Sexually, emotionally, financially. (Media example of 8th house relationships? Psychological thrillers and X-rated stuff. Although, hopefully we get a more peaceful type of 8th house relationship than is typical of the average psychological thriller!! The 8th house has a gentle soothing side too).

THE TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP EXPERIENCE EACH PARTNER HAS IS DIFFERENT.

The relationship house that is strongest for each person in synastry will show how the relationship feels for them. For example, if you have your 5th house strongly influenced by your partner (Though 5th house overlays, aspects to your 5th house ruler, or your partner's natal matching the symbolism of your 5th house), then there’ll be a consistent theme in the relationship for you relating to the meaning of the 5th house: Feeling 'in love', being impressed, seeing the other person as adorable and special, a playful tone.

If your partner then has their 8th house strongly influenced in the synastry (Though 8th house overlays, aspects to their 8th house ruler, or your natal matching the symbolism of their 8th house), then there’ll be a consistent theme in the relationship for them relating to the meaning of the 8th house: Sexual attraction, trust, and getting emotional and physical security from the relationship, a serious tone.

Each person in a relationship will have a different experience of the relationship depending on house related synastry, and which relationship house is the strongest for them in the connection. Giving each person in the relationship their own unique experience of the flavor, feeling, or vibe of the relationship. Although, preferably all three of the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses will still be touched to some extent for each partner, even if there’s a different emphasis in the synastry.

EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE?

Astrology is complex, so I'm sure there is more to the story... Occasionally there may be exceptions to the rule. But in the majority of cases, it's seems that what switches physical attraction producing planetary aspects from platonic to romantic, is house related synastry.

House related synastry shows if a person is able to fit into the role of a romantic partner for us in very specific ways. How they are able to match our individual conceptions of courtship, partnership, and intimacy is revealed by how their chart influences these areas of life (houses) for us. If they don't influence these areas of life for us at all, they simply won't attract us much regardless of what the interplanetary synastry is.

The general trend that I've noticed is that the house person feels more the planet person, and is inspired by them. Although, I have seen a few random exceptions to this... Sometimes, for reasons unknown, the planet person will feel more for the house person. As if they personally feel it's their role to be the house person's lover/partner/intimate, and became attracted to the house person. Perhaps house related synastry goes both ways to some extent. Even if it’s usually felt more strongly on the house person's/receiving side, then on the planet person's/giving side. I think it would be interesting to explore more about what the planet person actually experiences in house related synastry, and how sensitive we really are to ‘being’ in other peoples houses, and touching their house rulers.

Another type of exception that I've noticed is that if two people have a really powerful physical attraction producing aspect... Like Sun exact conjunct Moon, or Venus exact conjunct Mars, there can be some attraction even if the 5th, 7th, and 8th house related synastry is absent. Here, it’s like the power of the aspect is so intense that it can override the 'activation switch' of the relationship houses. In these cases, you may see the person as sexy or good looking… But they won't match what your 'type' is, or fit in with your relationship ideals. As a result the connection usually goes nowhere due to lack of motivation to actually have a relationship with that person. The astrology of romantic/physical attraction is complicated stuff.

Anyway, that’s my astrological theory of why physical attraction aspects sometimes work, and sometimes don’t work, in synastry.

posted August 19, 2013 11:07 PM            

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another off-topic, but do you really look at those asteroids? i got juno in gemini in 7th house, and it totally doesn't fit me, maybe i'm too dumb to understand but I've never seen asteroids working or changing anythin...

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Well they're out there in the solar system just like the planets, only they're a loooot smaller! The general consensus among astrologer that use asteroids is that they refer the little details in our lives rather the entire psychological complexes, which the planets refer to. Personally I have noticed the Juno/Marriage/Partner preferences correlation.

Juno in Gemini in the 7th house means that you would appreciate and look for a partner who can communicate well, and share ideas with you. You’d also appreciate it if they were cooperative and fair minded, as in the were willing to make real efforts to maintain peace in your relationship. These qualities in others would press your ‘commitment buttons’ and make you more willing to consider them for permanent place in your life, rather then just seeing them as fun.

Is you Dsc sign Taurus or Gemini…. A Dsc in Taurus would add a need for financial security and stability to your relationship needs. A Gemini Dsc would enhance the need for lively communication with a partner, and would increase the likelihood of marriage to someone that has the sign Gemini strong somewhere in their chart (not just the Sun sign, but also the Moon, the Asc, personal planets ect, or a very strong Mercury or 3rd house in their chart).

Also, there are a lot of exaggerated stereotypes out there about the different signs. They are useful for learning the ABC’s of astrology in the beginning, but in real-life interpretations they sometimes fall short. One of these stereotypes are that Gemini’s are always flighty, silly, chatterboxes. Some of them might be. But it’s also true that sometimes a placement in Gemini simply refers to a keen interest in intellectual stimulation, and an appreciation of good conversation.

posted August 19, 2013 11:56 PM            

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What about this: A guy has Sag on his 5th house. The woman puts no planets into his 5th, no major aspects to his Jupiter, she has no planets in Sagittarius, BUT her Jupiter is tight conjunct his Sun. I thought I'd read something on LL somewhere about this type of symbolism match.) Doesn't that work as well?

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Yes. You're talking about PROJECTED HOUSE RULERS, from Ceri's thread... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/219108.html

This is when if a person has Sagittarius on the 5th house cusp for instance, even if their love interest does not directly connect with their 5th house, an aspect from the love interest's Jupiter could give the person that 5th house feeling. This is because that person is looking for Jupiter energy from others when it comes to fun, romance, and playfulness ect, so someone aspecting them with their Jupiter helps fulfill their Jupiter craving in that area.

Also, there are other techniques you can try when one of the love houses is missing overlays within that house, or aspects to the house ruler.

One of them is a symbolism match. Planets in Sagittarius, even if they are in the 4th house rather then the 5th, still show a style/energy match symbolically with the 5th house (although the effect is stronger when the planets are actually in the house in question).

We can look at the sign of the house ruler in the same way. If the sign of the 5th house ruler is strong in the partners chart, again, there'll be a style/energy match symbolically with the 5th house, indicating attraction to the partner's personality.

Same with regard to planets in the 5th house. If a person has Mercury in the 5th house and you have strong Mercury/3rd house/Gemini or Virgo in your chart, again, we have another style/energy match with the 5th house.

The next thing you could try is to look at the secondary 5th house. With Sagittarius on the 5th house cusp the 9th house is the secondary 5th house. This is because Sagittarius traditionally rules the 9th house. Secondary houses are always a little less potent then the original house. It's like with an echo, the first time the sound bounces it is almost as loud as the original sound, but still not quite as powerful.

However, I've noticed that secondary houses are certainly strong enough to have an effect. They do work. If the original 7th and 8th houses are strong in synastry, but the 5th house seems to lack direct connections, then having the secondary 5th house activated in synastry will definitely support a more 'complete' attraction. By 'complete' I mean an attraction that includes the energies of all three of the major relationship houses... Romance (5th house), partnership (7th house), and intimacy (8th house).

When looking at the 9th house we'd look at it the same way as the original 5th house. We'd look for symbolism matches according the signs of the cusp and the ruler, and according to any planets which may be in the 9th house. We'd also look for planetary overlays to the 9th house, and aspects to the 9th house ruler, with a conjunction being the strongest. And lets not forget the house of the ruler too! The house of the cusp ruler is like a diluted version of the sign traditionally associated with that house.

If a house cusp ruler sits in the 12th house, this give an attraction to Neptune/12th house/Pisces energy with regard to that life area... But this attraction would be less strong then if the house ruler were in Pisces or conjunct Neptune. I think you get what I mean!

Ooh yes! And another thing to consider is how the house cusp ruler is aspected. A tight conjunction of a 'love' house cusp ruler to Uranus would give a strong attraction to Uranus/Aquarius/11th house people, even if Uranus is not in that house, and the sign Aquarius is not associated with that house.

There was a poster on this site who had Saturn squaring the 7th house ruler (I think her name was My Virgo Mask), and she was previously married to a Capricorn Sun guy.

Hard aspects seem to the house ruler seem to be the most potent in generating an attraction to the energy of the aspecting planet. But I wouldn't discount tight trines and sextiles to the house ruler either. An exact trine to the house ruler would be much more powerful then a 5 degree square to it.

posted August 20, 2013 09:04 PM            

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Thanks for sharing. I have two questions.

1. Of the two, which would be more important in terms of romantic compatibility: My Virgo Moon in 5th house(Leo cusp), or Libra Mars in 6th house(Virgo cusp). My 6th house has a stellium in Libra, which my Mars is a part of. In this situation, is 5th house still more relevant?

posted August 21, 2013 11:00 AM            

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Please post your chart. It's much easier for me to gauge what your pattern is if I can see it in it's entirety. This is with regard to your question about your stellium.

I tend not to look at any planet in the 7th house as 'bad', including Uranus. Uranus in the 7th could indicate a quirky and unusual partner, or relationship. And it can indicate sudden happenings in the relationship area. Like a sudden marriage. This placement is not inherently 'bad' at all.

There's one poster on this site, Yours Truly Always, who has Uranus in the 7th. He married his wife within a very short time of meeting her, and now they've been married for over twenty years... Her Venus was conjunct his Uranus in his 7th house. Venus/Uranus is an exciting attraction synastry aspect to have.

If Uranus is negatively aspected within the natal sometimes this can pose problems. Here the partner could be erratic or deliberately contrary. But the same thing can happen for any planet in the 7th that's overly stressed.

Jupiter in the 7th indicates a positive and generous partner. This is usually a pretty happy natal placement to have. It also indicates an attraction to people with Sagittarius or Jupiter prominent in their charts... Idealistic, passionate types who love to learn new things.

posted August 21, 2013 12:09 PM            

Looking back, I often go for the "house symbolism", especially my Mars as it doubles as Mars and my 7th house ruler. It conjuncts Mercury and I see Sun-Mercury or a packed 3rd house come back a lot. Mars in Gemini is also one of my favourite Mars signs.

This also finally gave me some answers on why I go crazy over aspects to my chart ruler. It rules my 8th, too, I trust them quickly and they give me the "confidant(e)" feeling.

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Always great to read your essays on this subject.

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Originally posted by meissieri:
Thank you so much, this is amazing. I've been reading the thread lately and every one of them makes things just so much more clear. Like with Ceridwen and her threads, wow, this must've been so much work and love put into it. As someone still pretty new to this, I'm so happy you did.

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Thanks Ceri and meissieri!

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Originally posted by meissieri:
Looking back, I often go for the "house symbolism", especially my Mars as it doubles as Mars and my 7th house ruler. It conjuncts Mercury and I see Sun-Mercury or a packed 3rd house come back a lot. Mars in Gemini is also one of my favourite Mars signs.

This also finally gave me some answers on why I go crazy over aspects to my chart ruler. It rules my 8th, too, I trust them quickly and they give me the "confidant(e)" feeling.

I do have a question: How do you feel about duads and their ruler?

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meissieri,

Thanks for the clear description of how you feel your pattern fits for you. The part about the 8th house/Asc ruler was interesting. I can totally see how it would feel that way for you.

About duads... I generally check the duad sign of the Dsc, and the duad of the Dsc ruler... Usually do the same for the 5th and 8th houses as well. Duads seem to show little details about our taste. Like a cute accessory going with a whole outfit.

The ruler of the duad may well have some effect, but it would likely be a small one. An interesting little side point about what you prefer in partnerships.

However, if you're new, paying too much attention to this may get confusing. For instance, there's also the decan of the Dsc, and it's to consider. And the fact that if a person has Pisces, Scorpio, or Aquarius on the Dsc, these signs all have co-rulers. The modern rulers Neptune, Pluto, and Uranus, (which I see as dominant), and the ancient rulers Jupiter, Mars, and Saturn, (which I see as a sub-influence on these signs). If taking all of this into consideration seems like overload keep it simple.

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What about tight aspects to planets within the 5th, 7th or 8th houses? For example, if A has Mercury conjunct Venus in his 5th house and B has her Mercury falling in his 7th with Venus falling in his 8th. Intuition tells me that this must matter since the planets that are posited in the 7th and 8th houses are identical to the planets that the other person has natally in their 5th house. It just seems to me that this SHOULD somehow activate the 5th house as well. Or perhaps any planets falling in the 7th or 8th that make a tight (1-degree orb) sextile or square to 5th house planets could potentially activate the 5th house. For that matter, a personal planet falling in the 5th might activate someone's natal 7th or 8th house planet if the orb is very tight? Or is that just wishful thinking? (Sometimes my "gut instincts" are nothing more than "indigestion" )

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Hi Jkitty,

I think you’ve asked me about planets natally in the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses being aspected in synastry before.

I believe that, yes, they do generate a certain amount of chemistry.

But my intuition also tells me that aspects to the actual 5th, 7th, and 8th house rulers, are stronger in producing chemistry between people when they‘re aspected. That’s because the house cusp rulers themselves refer specifically back to the house they rule when aspected. Whereas planets in the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses actually rule other houses.

When planets in houses are aspected there’s no doubt that the house they’re in will be effected. It’s point-blank obvious! And it will definitely strongly support an attraction already existing elsewhere in the synastry. Still, I wouldn’t pin all my hopes on planets in the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses being aspected as a factor that ‘runs the whole show’ in a love synastry. I think it can contribute to an attraction, but it also needs other factors backing it up to really be a strong force in the synastry.

I’d say that synastry aspects to planets actually in a love interest’s natal 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, stimulates those houses to an extent. There is definitely feeling involved. Only the effect is not as complete or ‘full-bodied’ as aspects to the house ruler itself, or your planets falling into the love interest’s 5th, 7th, and 8th houses.

About the “He has Mecury/Venus in the 5th, and I put Mercury and Venus in his 7th and 8th houses” question. I’ll start by saying that any personal planets in the 7th and 8th houses are very good for attraction! Especially if they strongly aspect other parts of the love interest’s natal chart. Aspects are energy exchange.

The fact that your Venus and Mercury in his 7th and 8th houses, mirrors his 5th house Venus/Mercury, is supportive of an attraction too. But I wouldn’t say it was strong enough by itself to activate the 5th house directly. If a 5th house type of attraction is shown already in the synastry this will strongly enhance it.

I hope this was helpful. Please keep in mind that these are just my personal impressions.

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