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Topic: Sadism In The Chart
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Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2013 08:44 PM
  
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You have Nessus conj Pluto and Ceres This is supposed to be generational but I can feel my Pluto conj dejanira because I never let kids bully me. I was always like"Whaaaaa. No way" IQ said it was the pluto conj Deja
For Nessus, I would think this could be someone who could abuse easily.
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LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted August 28, 2013 08:46 PM
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WOW Lies to the Unaspected Jupiter. I am wowed here as this is the 4rd one I have seen unless I am tired and it is 3  In the chart of 2 sociopaths I know, the Jupiter is in hard aspect to every single planet but one. Jupiter is key for anything to do with conscience.
Jupiter, though in fall for me, is a very nice planet to me. I get rewarded and have very good luck on daily basis. 
My little sister has Jupiter unaspected, since Chiron's oppostion is too wide an orb. She isn't really a sadist, but she lacks empathy at times. Her sun is conjunct my Chiron and she expects me to take care of her. -.- IP: Logged |
LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted August 28, 2013 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lies
You have Nessus conj Pluto and Ceres This is supposed to be generational but I can feel my Pluto conj dejanira because I never let kids bully me. I was always like"Whaaaaa. No way" IQ said it was the pluto conj Deja
For Nessus, I would think this could be someone who could abuse easily.
You are being real, so I hope I can be and we can discuss it
I was bullied as child, and at times people try to in high school. I have sedna and Dejanira in the 1st house, they conjunct by 3 degrees. But I laugh at the ones who try to belittle me now. I have hurt people very easily almost to the point where they won't accept my apologies, but that isn't with everyone.
My close friends understand I have to be harsh in order to see if they are my true friends.
And I have fallen to doing what was done to me before, but caught myself because that isn't fair.
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Violets
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posted August 28, 2013 09:03 PM
WHOAH....Here is Charles Manson's chart. Eeeyikes.  IP: Logged |
LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted August 28, 2013 09:09 PM
Charles Manson, has Jupiter conjunct Eros exact. Gross.IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted August 28, 2013 09:13 PM
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Charles Manson, has Jupiter conjunct Eros exact. Gross.
I don't know what that would indicate, honestly...  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2013 09:16 PM
Jupiter enlarges what it touches so he had a big eros, one could say.------------------
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Violets
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posted August 28, 2013 09:17 PM
Ew.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2013 09:18 PM
You know what we see repeated? The charm aspect--Venus conj Sun------------------
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LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted August 28, 2013 09:20 PM
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You know what we see repeated? The charm aspect--Venus conj Sun
Yes, it is. I find that Sun conjunct Venus can create very healthy people ego wise.
But in rare instances the person can become to self absorbed in pleasures of their liking and will charm their way to get what they want. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted August 28, 2013 09:27 PM
Yeah...my husband has Venus conj Sun, and he is one of the most loving, nurturing people I have ever met. I don't believe there's a manipulative bone in his body, quite honestly (Leo with Sag rising, they're pretty honest folk).He is quite charming, however.
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Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2013 09:38 PM
Violets Sun conj venus is not a dark aspect. It is a light aspect, in fact. All sociopaths etc need a charm aspect. If not, they could not manipulate people Sun conj venus is just a charm aspect so don't push hubby out of the house yet  ------------------
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Astrochologist
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posted August 28, 2013 09:44 PM
Could see a lot of pluto aspects, Saturn aspects, afflicted Venus in men , 1st house focus, Pluto in the 7th ,pluto in the 1st. I could see all those being contributing factors.Myself, well, we'll leave that alone lol IP: Logged |
LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted August 28, 2013 09:45 PM
Not including Sade's chart, anyone else notice how earth and heavy the sadist are?I would love to get married with someone who has sun conjunct venus,in harmonious aspects to my wide conjunction of mars and sun.
I love venusian folks. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2013 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Astrochologist:
Could see a lot of pluto aspects, Saturn aspects, afflicted Venus in men , 1st house focus, Pluto in the 7th ,pluto in the 1st. I could see all those being contributing factors.Myself, well, we'll leave that alone lol
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Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2013 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:
Not including Sade's chart, anyone else notice how earth and heavy the sadist are?I would love to get married with someone who has sun conjunct venus,in harmonious aspects to my wide conjunction of mars and sun.
I love venusian folks.
I knew a sociopath with no earth but maybe the sadist is different than the sociopath. What do you think?
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LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted August 28, 2013 09:55 PM
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I knew a sociopath with no earth but maybe the sadist is different than the sociopath. What do you think?
I think Sadist and Sociopaths are completely different to each other, but are very easily similar. Lack of earth to me sounds like lack of authority. They do not understand the logic of the world. They can't define what rules really are. I don't think earth would affect a Sadist that much though... Have you ever met a sociopath lacking in fire or air?
Those who lack water, I find it they can be in a boundary of being "normal" and being a sociopath/sadist.
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Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2013 09:57 PM
Wow about lack of authority. I am an earth void and would love to hear more about this as it is seeming to ring true, unfortunately  ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2013 09:58 PM
I think Sadist and Sociopaths are completely different to each other, but are very easily similar. Makes sense so each would have a different Astrological profile. Do you agree? ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2013 10:01 PM
Have you ever met a sociopath lacking in fire or air?
Those who lack water, I find it they can be in a boundary of being "normal" and being a sociopath/sadist.
Please explain this more. Thanks xx
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LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted August 28, 2013 10:07 PM
I just came to that conclusion about Earth void right on the spot. It makes sense. Earth is about structure, without structure everything collapses. Authorities bring structure.
Mother and father are the law, and I would think a hard relationship with parents would mean lack of eart. Hard aspects to the earth ruled planets, or earth house rulers.
Me, I'm basically half earth and I understand authority figures, but once pluto started transiting my earth planets I wanted to break free and change my views on it. I've had issues with a lot of older Scorpios lately, I've been disrespectful.. hahaha
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/23/11-signs-dating-a-sociopath_n_3780417.html
This is an article about sociopaths. This reminds me of overly sized egos, in hard aspects to saturn maybe?The sociopath and sadist have similar patterns, I would presume, but the sadist with more sexual aspects. IP: Logged |
LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted August 28, 2013 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Have you ever met a sociopath lacking in fire or air?
Those who lack water, I find it they can be in a boundary of being "normal" and being a sociopath/sadist.
Please explain this more. Thanks xx
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I have a friend who has no water what so ever!
And the way I see her is, that she doesn't fully understand how others feel. She takes her feeling into consideration first and sometimes forgets about others. A sociopath lacks empathy, and a lack of water to means to me, a lack to connect with others emotions. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2013 10:12 PM
I just came to that conclusion about Earth void right on the spot. It makes sense. Earth is about structure, without structure everything collapses. Authorities bring structure.
Mother and father are the law, and I would think a hard relationship with parents would mean lack of earth I never thought of this. I grew up in a totally permissive home. I could do what I wanted when i wanted but I CRAVED rules. It was too much for a child not to have rules. Does this fit in with the earth void for you? ------------------
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LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted August 28, 2013 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]I just came to that conclusion about Earth void right on the spot. It makes sense. Earth is about structure, without structure everything collapses. Authorities bring structure.
Mother and father are the law, and I would think a hard relationship with parents would mean lack of earth I never thought of this. I grew up in a totally permissive home. I could do what I wanted when i wanted but I CRAVED rules. It was too much for a child not to have rules. Does this fit in with the earth void for you? [/B]
Yeah. I grew up with a lot of rules, that I was always breaking. haha, I hate rules sometimes. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2013 10:18 PM
LOL
I just read your post about being bullied. In which house is your Chiron? Is it in the first or conj the ASC?
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