posted December 14, 2016 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Hey, NS--

While you're here, what are your Sun/Moon?

Totally off-topic, but I won't hog the thread, I promise.

I think you mentioned that you have Cancer Venus/Mercury? I've noticed that Venus trine or conjunct to my planets or Nodes always smooth over any difference in opinion between myself and others, and I'm suspecting that your Venus may be trine my Sun, as we don't seem to bother each other if there's a disagreement of any type.

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posted December 14, 2016 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
thanks Violet.. I have moon in gemini 26 conjunct mercury in 24, venus-sun.-mars in cancer in 5, 3, 2 respectively...

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Ahaha. I was right about you feeling "airy", then. I actually said that to someone. Wait, what's your Sun?

posted December 14, 2016 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:

Ahaha. I was right about you feeling "airy", then. I actually said that to someone. Wait, what's your Sun?

Also, your Cancer stellium does indeed make a trine to my Sun and a sextile to my Moon, so it totally makes sense that we don't really get all uppity with each other if/when there's a disagreement or misunderstanding.

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posted December 14, 2016 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
well, I do feel airy and watery.. both my mercury is the sole chart dispositor, so the gemini side is strong...can i ask for your placement?

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Oh, sure. I have Pisces Sun at 6.45, Virgo Moon at 5.46 (weird that the numbers are reversed and also in opposition, isn't it?), Leo Asc at 14.

posted December 15, 2016 03:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Oh, sure. I have Pisces Sun at 6.45, Virgo Moon at 5.46 (weird that the numbers are reversed and also in opposition, isn't it?), Leo Asc at 14.

Aqua Mercury.

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It is just find amazing how synastry plays out. of course we can disagree without getting into an EGO battle. the trine between your sun and my venus-sun-mars says a lot.. and even if moon are not in harmonic signs harmonic they both are ruled by mercury. on top, my jupiter (1,26 virgo) conjunct widely your moon. and your moon trine widely my Taurus AC (9 degree) and your sun sextile widely my AC.

posted December 15, 2016 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
It is just find amazing how synastry plays out. of course we can disagree without getting into an EGO battle. the trine between your sun and my venus-sun-mars says a lot.. and even if moon are not in harmonic signs harmonic they both are ruled by mercury. on top, my jupiter (1,26 virgo) conjunct widely your moon. and your moon trine widely my Taurus AC (9 degree) and your sun sextile widely my AC.

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Yay!

Venus trines and/or conjunctions always smooth things over and creates harmony in my experience.

posted December 15, 2016 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Yay!

Venus trines and/or conjunctions always smooth things over and creates harmony in my experience.

The other aspects are really pleasant as well. No wonder we don't really bicker, although my Mercury is square your AC (11 Aquarius), so it would make sense that we may not always agree, but the basic good will is always still there.

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posted December 15, 2016 10:42 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
I guess that is what makes the difference between people who disagree and becomes enemies and people who disagree and can still keep good will toward the other... I am considering a thread over this, but still trying to get my head around..

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I really do believe that it does. I've noticed that hard aspects with Mars/Pluto/Saturn will really cause me to seriously have problems with people if there's not some mitigating Venus aspect there.

Even if there is a pleasant Venus aspect, sometimes that can't save the synastry between people who have really hard synastries with numerous outer planets and Mars.

posted December 15, 2016 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
I'm a little bit sadic sometimes and I absolutely HATE it!! Not proud.

Gemini moon.

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Weird.
Even though I have Sun conjunct BML in my 8th house, and plenty of hard Pluto aspects, I'm not remotely sadistic. I even have Mats square Uranus (out of sign and a wide orb), and although my temper can be explosive, mostly verbally, I never feel good about seeing people in actual pain.

posted December 15, 2016 11:25 AM            

On page one, Ami wrote:
"It is weird you say that because my son and I talk about the sick part of human nature.

When I am upset, he will start laughing and I want to kill him.

However, I do the same thing when he gets upset.

We came to the conclusion that human nature is sick"

AA, you are not alone in drawing this conclusion:

From Jeremiah 17:9 (New American Standard):

The heart is more deceitful than all else
And is desperately sick:
Who can understand it?

Those who are not bummed out over the Holy Scriptures will want to read the verse that immediately follows 17:9.

posted December 15, 2016 11:30 AM            

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posted December 15, 2016 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Weird.
Even though I have Sun conjunct BML in my 8th house, and plenty of hard Pluto aspects, I'm not remotely sadistic. I even have Mats square Uranus (out of sign and a wide orb), and although my temper can be explosive, mostly verbally, I never feel good about seeing people in actual pain.

Interesting, eh? Well, to me, lol.

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I didn't know sadism has something to do with 8H,I didn't read the other pages but yeah it is interesting lol

I have mars-uranus opposition (0 degrees) haha mars-neptune too but its not like that happens all the time.SOMETIMES I have these bad thoughts and as I said I don't appreciate them.

posted December 15, 2016 11:54 AM            

I just looked at your website, quickly realized that what I posted is something you understood long ago. Possibly others might find it enlightening.

In any event, your website fascinates me, and I will be studying it in greater detail.

posted December 15, 2016 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
^^Well when I am really angry I can picture myself strangling my partner but would never do it and a few minutes later might be attacking him with kisses.

Having bad thoughts does not make you sadistic unless you are genuinely enjoy seeing others in pain specially absent of any reason just because. Like for example we all enjoy seeing villain get what is coming to them, does that mean we are sadistic??

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posted December 15, 2016 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
It's not like I'm going to laugh at their faces,NO but I feel it.Sometikes I think a certain situation is funny and I don't think I should so I dislike it tremendously.
I don't know really what to think lol but thanks I feel better

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posted December 15, 2016 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
I'm a little bit sadic sometimes and I absolutely HATE it!! Not proud.

Gemini moon.

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oh boy I am starting to get nervous. I have moon in gemini. I am very compassionate and I do not think there is a hidden sadist in me whatsoever. however, when I was very young in my childhood I remember being cruel. I once dropped a ball on my cousin eye and pretended it was accidental, just to see her reaction. I also used to scare my little sister when i was 6 and she was 5. she cried so hard. then i really felt sorry. in these instances when i tried to hurt and i did, then I felt sorry. I do not know if i just wanted to understand emotions (moon conjunt mercury in gemini) or I was just plain cruel, but always felt worry after i saw them crying. like i wanted to see the reaction and then.. stop.. do not know if it made sense to anyone.

then i did not feel like crying when i went to funerals (well not of people close so me though) i saw people crying i am I felt nothing. i used to feel little when i saw people crying, except when i could see closely, like when my mother cried and I found her sobbing, i felt sorry because i understood her pain, but i guess i was very unaware of the pain of people in general crying. I remember once i was 13 and a woman was crying loud because she lost her daughter in a car accident. a friend of mine was so sad and I couldnt feel a thing...

posted December 15, 2016 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
It's not like I'm going to laugh at their faces,NO but I feel it.Sometikes I think a certain situation is funny and I don't think I should so I dislike it tremendously.
I don't know really what to think lol but thanks I feel better

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posted December 15, 2016 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
oh boy I am starting to get nervous. I have moon in gemini. I am very compassionate and I do not think there is a hidden sadist in me whatsoever. however, when I was very young in my childhood I remember being cruel. I once dropped a ball on my cousin eye and pretended it was accidental, just to see her reaction. I also used to scare my little sister when i was 6 and she was 5. she cried so hard. then i really felt sorry. in these instances when i tried to hurt and i did, then I felt sorry. I do not know if i just wanted to understand emotions (moon conjunt mercury in gemini) or I was just plain cruel, but always felt worry after i saw them crying. like i wanted to see the reaction and then.. stop.. do not know if it made sense to anyone.

then i did not feel like crying when i went to funerals (well not of people close so me though) i saw people crying i am I felt nothing. i used to feel little when i saw people crying, except when i could see closely, like when my mother cried and I found her sobbing, i felt sorry because i understood her pain, but i guess i was very unaware of the pain of people in general crying. I remember once i was 13 and a woman was crying loud because she lost her daughter in a car accident. a friend of mine was so sad and I couldnt feel a thing...

I do not know what changed me. I am glad I am not like that at all, but I just find interesting that moon in gemini is showing a lot in sadists...

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When you are a child you often don't understand when you do or say certain things that are you been hurtful like you don't truly get it, you have to understand our brains are still developing around that time and is only when we are around 12 years old that we start to be able to think in abstract terms.

There are stages of Moral Development and we when we are young we don't understand morality fully well and do the right thing bc we don't want to get in trouble for example.

http://www.simplypsychology.org/kohlberg.html

Level 1 Pre-conventional morality

• Stage 1. Obedience and Punishment Orientation. The child/individual is good in order to avoid being punished. If a person is punished, they must have done wrong.

• Stage 2. Individualism and Exchange. At this stage children recognize that there is not just one right view that is handed down by the authorities. Different individuals have different viewpoints.

Level 2 Conventional morality

• Stage 3. Good Interpersonal Relationships. The child/individual is good in order to be seen as being a good person by others. Therefore, answers relate to the approval of others.

• Stage 4. Maintaining the Social Order. The child/individual becomes aware of the wider rules of society so judgments concern obeying the rules in order to uphold the law and to avoid guilt.

Level 3 Post-conventional morality

• Stage 5. Social Contract and Individual Rights. The child/individual becomes aware that while rules/laws might exist for the good of the greatest number, there are times when they will work against the interest of particular individuals.

The issues are not always clear cut. For example, in Heinz’s dilemma the protection of life is more important than breaking the law against stealing.

• Stage 6. Universal Principles. People at this stage have developed their own set of moral guidelines which may or may not fit the law. The principles apply to everyone.

posted December 15, 2016 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by GrandFireT:
Thank you for the 'welcome,' Ami.

I just looked at your website, quickly realized that what I posted is something you understood long ago. Possibly others might find it enlightening.

In any event, your website fascinates me, and I will be studying it in greater detail.

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You are such a little cutie pie. You made my day, GF

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