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themischievousone
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posted August 29, 2013 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:

That orb is not too wide for the luminaries.

Do people try and pin you as an antagonist or a she devil?


What orb is too wide for luminaries? Mine is 6 degrees conjunct moon (and trines venus exact) but I'm thinking that's too far.

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posted August 29, 2013 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Hehe I'm waiting in line..
I read your posts but just know I really resonated with many of things you said, and went through similar experiences.

I'm glad you found meaning and balance in your life.
I respect you!

So are you like ride or die when it comes to love, violet?
You mentioned toxic relationships.
I'm wondering if this is a lilith in the 7th house because have like no pluto energy in my chart.


Thanks, Kerosene
Respect returned in kind! It's an interesting ride, isn't it...?

Yes, it's definitely ride or die with relationships. I like to think (hope) that my marriage is very stable. So far, we've seen each other through a lot of growth and releasing a lot of negative energy that we've both held onto for many years. My husband is a little bit like me...sun in 8th house, similar lives but not identical.

Sometimes I'm absolutely baffled by just how dramatically (and wonderfully) my life has changed.
I now work in a capacity where I help people who have dark issues, which has been very rewarding...although mostly I stay at home with my little guy and tend to my garden, ha.

I was a residential counselor for a group home for schizophrenic adults for many years, and I was able to experience unconditional love (with professional boundaries, of course) for them, and I loved my job. Probably more of the positive Lilith attributes coming out there, I think.

It's such a personal placement, and affects me quite a bit, that it's difficult to really clarify how it *feels*. It's more like I either want to remain silent, or spill my guts and be like "uh well, this is how it has manifested in the past..." Or do a little of both, hahaha.

I also have Pholus conjunct my sun, and Pluto opp Venus. *sigh* I'm...uh. Interesting to be in a relationship with, haha. But I really work hard not to be a b*tch. And it does take a concerted effort, I can tell you. At least in my relationships. Not so much in my friendships. 11th house Saturn places too much value on true friendships for me to trifle with bickering on that level.

Man, what a question you've asked! I'm like "Oh wow, how do I even begin to answer this...?!"

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posted August 29, 2013 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Zander916:
Lots of aspects but here's a few

Dark Moon Lilith conjunct both Pluto and Asc.
If we look to Vedic Astrology BML is conjunct Ketu (8th house), trine sun, sextile moon.

Oh **** .... On DarkStar I guess DML is the really evil one. H58. That's the one conjunct Asc and Pluto. Suppose that explains the "crazy" eh?


Lol right? I have DML (waldemath) conjunct Pluto in the eight. It definitely explains ALOT for me lol.

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posted August 29, 2013 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Do you want to get married?

I don’t know. I’m so young, I’ve got a lot of time to think about that question .

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posted August 29, 2013 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I don’t know. I’m so young, I’ve got a lot of time to think about that question .

Live in sin my dear. It's wayy better

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posted August 29, 2013 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Lol right? I have DML (that's walden right?) conjunct Pluto in the eight. It definitely explains ALOT for me lol.

From what I was just reading, if it conjuncts Pluto it's like a double espresso - very strong. Explains a lot.
It conjuncts pluto, Asc, and Pluto conjuncts asc as well. Moon squares my asc.
Whew... well now I have an excuse?

What do you feel with it conjunct Pluto in 8th?

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posted August 29, 2013 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Live in sin my dear. It's wayy better

Means you’ve experienced it? I thought you were around my age .

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posted August 29, 2013 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have walden conjunct NN 7th house.
Ceres conjunct walden and Osc lilith 7th house
Lust conjunct BML
BML conjunct dsc.


"I was born bad
But then I met you
You made me nice for a while
But my dark side's true.

Babe you can see that I'm danger
Glamorous but I'm deranged, yeah
Teetering off of the stage, yeah
I said it really nicely so can you be my savior?"

Lyrics that pretty much describe how I feel about lilith's in the 7th house..

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posted August 29, 2013 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, Lilith in the 7th is a real effing pain. "Hi, I'm not going to pull any punches and pretend to be something I'm not, BUT...you have no idea what an irate, scathing b*tch I can be, so I'll just keep quiet about that part for now."

*bangs head against wall*

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posted August 29, 2013 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I have a therapist who is also a Reiki master.

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posted August 29, 2013 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
Thanks, Kerosene
Respect returned in kind! It's an interesting ride, isn't it...?

Yes, it's definitely ride or die with relationships. I like to think (hope) that my marriage is very stable. So far, we've seen each other through a lot of growth and releasing a lot of negative energy that we've both held onto for many years. My husband is a little bit like me...sun in 8th house, similar lives but not identical.

Sometimes I'm absolutely baffled by just how dramatically (and wonderfully) my life has changed.
I now work in a capacity where I help people who have dark issues, which has been very rewarding...although mostly I stay at home with my little guy and tend to my garden, ha.

I was a residential counselor for a group home for schizophrenic adults for many years, and I was able to experience unconditional love (with professional boundaries, of course) for them, and I loved my job. Probably more of the positive Lilith attributes coming out there, I think.

It's such a personal placement, and affects me quite a bit, that it's difficult to really clarify how it *feels*. It's more like I either want to remain silent, or spill my guts and be like "uh well, this is how it has manifested in the past..." Or do a little of both, hahaha.

I also have Pholus conjunct my sun, and Pluto opp Venus. *sigh* I'm...uh. Interesting to be in a relationship with, haha. But I really work hard not to be a b*tch. And it does take a concerted effort, I can tell you. At least in my relationships. Not so much in my friendships. 11th house Saturn places too much value on true friendships for me to trifle with bickering on that level.

Man, what a question you've asked! I'm like "Oh wow, how do I even begin to answer this...?!"


I understand, It's very personal!
I don't expect any of you lilith dominant people to share your life experiences, because only people you can trust should know that!
I was just wondering what lilith manifestations have done for other people.. Positive or negative..
You've explained it to me so well!

I think with age we discover ourselves and tame our inner wild side!

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posted August 29, 2013 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:

I now work in a capacity where I help people who have dark issues, which has been very rewarding...although mostly I stay at home with my little guy and tend to my garden, ha.

I was a residential counselor for a group home for schizophrenic adults for many years, and I was able to experience unconditional love (with professional boundaries, of course) for them, and I loved my job. Probably more of the positive Lilith attributes coming out there, I think.

It's such a personal placement, and affects me quite a bit, that it's difficult to really clarify how it *feels*. It's more like I either want to remain silent, or spill my guts and be like "uh well, this is how it has manifested in the past..." Or do a little of both, hahaha.

I also have Pholus conjunct my sun, and Pluto opp Venus. *sigh* I'm...uh. Interesting to be in a relationship with, haha. But I really work hard not to be a b*tch. And it does take a concerted effort, I can tell you. At least in my relationships. Not so much in my friendships. 11th house Saturn places too much value on true friendships for me to trifle with bickering on that level.

Man, what a question you've asked! I'm like "Oh wow, how do I even begin to answer this...?!"


I have dark issues obviously - but rather openly. Due to asc aspects possibly?
I also have Saturn 11th house so, once a friendship is formed, honest friendship, I never go spastic on them. LMAO!!

I feel you though. It's a LOOOOOOOOOOT of effort. USUALLY I take the silent route - at least in person.

It's wonderful that you've worked with those people. I've been around some and NOT just people who claimed it. They were generally very kind people.

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posted August 29, 2013 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
Yeah, Lilith in the 7th is a real effing pain. "Hi, I'm not going to pull any punches and pretend to be something I'm not, BUT...you have no idea what an irate, scathing b*tch I can be, so I'll just keep quiet about that part for now."

*bangs head against wall*


We're so similar.... I can be difficult too.
You have some liliths in the 7th house too lol?
It's like one minute I want all of you and the next get out of my face...
I remember I said to the person love when we were being affectionate.. I just stopped and asked,
"Will you give me your soul..?"
Did I mention I have like no pluto aspecting my personal planets....
It has to be Lilith

Also I'm still waiting for that soul..

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posted August 29, 2013 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Means you’ve experienced it? I thought you were around my age .

Lol noooo. I was trying impersonate the devil. Trying to "Lead you astray"..I definitely don't want to get married though

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posted August 29, 2013 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Marriage is silly.
Just write a contract to have possession of each others souls
It's conceptual... yeah...

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posted August 29, 2013 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<Edit> This was in reference to taming our wild darkness...
Ah, so true. Sometimes I look back at my life and I feel so boring now. But then I think that's probably Uranus squaring my Saturn, which is thankfully moving along now.

Life is more spiritually enriching these days, although the dark energy does sometimes raise its head and I have to just listen to music or do something to release it more constructively.

The upsetting thing is that, although I am fairly quiet about that energy, when I am experiencing it at night my son will cry out (Cancer AC, sensitive little person that he is), and I have to just bottle it up until I can go somewhere safe to release it.

When I'm really mad, I often feel a primal scream wanting to erupt from within, so I have to just let those feelings "be", and try not to take them out on anyone (mother in-law would be a priceless candidate for that one, as her Lilith sits on my Chiron/Deja, and my Nessus sits on her moon).

Well, anyway...
Here's one more to describe how I often feel, in quiet times.

Concrete Blonde (I do love me some '80s/'90s gothy music, haha). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eMTgQEA7Es

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posted August 29, 2013 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
We're so similar.... I can be difficult too.
You have some liliths in the 7th house too lol?
It's like one minute I want all of you and the next get out of my face...
I remember I said to the person love when we were being affectionate.. I just stopped and asked,
"Will you give me your soul..?"
Did I mention I have like no pluto aspecting my personal planets....
It has to be Lilith

Also I'm still waiting for that soul..


Ahahaha...yes, I can identify.

My Venus Aries usually wants the ones that only want one thing, but thankfully that's mostly a thing of the past now.
I never believed in marriage until I met my husband, ha. I literally scoffed at the idea of it. I still don't think it matters much, but I'm glad he's my husband, it works for us.

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posted August 29, 2013 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What degree is your venus?
Uranus is coming near that venus...
Did you get married recently?

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posted August 29, 2013 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What degree is your venus?
Uranus is coming near that venus...
Did you get married recently?

My Venus is at 3 degrees, Uranus has already gone over it, gone back again, and I think is coming back for some more if I'm not mistaken.

No, I got married in 2010, and met my husband in 2008. Pluto had squared my Venus, and did it again after we got together. But we did manage to pull through it.

I spoke with a psychic recently (one who I've seen a couple of times), and she noted that after his Saturn square sun passes, we will rebuild, but we'll be fine and we'll all have each other. Hopefully that will continue on.

Hasn't happened yet, and she didn't mention any major catastrophes, just probably the normal changes.

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posted August 29, 2013 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by themischievousone:
What orb is too wide for luminaries? Mine is 6 degrees conjunct moon (and trines venus exact) but I'm thinking that's too far.

Idk.. technically I would say it's probably too far but I was justing looking at the chart of my favorite heartbroken femme fatal Lana Del Rey, and she has lilith 8 degrees away from her sun... Well her Lilith is exalted in gemini soo that probably helps.
It may not be as intense but I think you would identify with lilith themes.
What do you think?

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posted August 29, 2013 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Zander916:
I have dark issues obviously - but rather openly. Due to asc aspects possibly?
I also have Saturn 11th house so, once a friendship is formed, honest friendship, I never go spastic on them. LMAO!!

I feel you though. It's a LOOOOOOOOOOT of effort. USUALLY I take the silent route - at least in person.

It's wonderful that you've worked with those people. I've been around some and NOT just people who claimed it. They were generally very kind people.


Yeah, I loved our residents. They were indeed very kind, gentle folk. Definitely some very odd conversations, but I used to love to just sit outside with them, drink coffee, and smoke cigarettes...and chat. Even if they weren't making much sense. I started an art group for them, and personally picked out their Christmas presents with the money I was allowed to spend. I loved that job. I now work in a women's homeless shelter, but I don't work very often so that I can stay at home with my son.

I *wish* my Pholus and Lilith would be quiet sometimes, ha.

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posted August 29, 2013 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
My Venus is at 3 degrees, Uranus has already gone over it, gone back again, and I think is coming back for some more if I'm not mistaken.

No, I got married in 2010, and met my husband in 2008. Pluto had squared my Venus, and did it again after we got together. But we did manage to pull through it.

I spoke with a psychic recently (one who I've seen a couple of times), and she noted that after his Saturn square sun passes, we will rebuild, but we'll be fine and we'll all have each other. Hopefully that will continue on.

Hasn't happened yet, and she didn't mention any major catastrophes, just probably the normal changes.


Aww I thought out venus and mars conjuncts :c
I'm glad nothing bad happened to you, I've been feeling really anxious ever sense uranus entered aries. Thou I am kinda disappointed nothing interesting will probably happen to me..

Has anything happened to you that's not mundane?

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posted August 29, 2013 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I once broke up a street fight between a homeless guy and a *very* schizophrenic homeless guy, haha. I was with friends on the way to a bar, and I just went on instinct.

I'm a petite woman, but I guess something in my tone of voice stopped them in their tracks, lol.

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posted August 29, 2013 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aww I thought out venus and mars conjuncts :c
I'm glad nothing bad happened to you, I been feeling really anxious ever sense uranus entered aries.

Yeah, I was wondering that about our Venus and Mars too! Aw... Well, there must be something there of substance...

Yeah, Uranus has been a MAJOR pain in the *** for me lately. I wish it would just p*ss off, really. Pluto has been reasonable, oddly enough. It's squaring my natal Pluto and then squaring my natal Saturn (lucky me, I have a bunch of cardinal oppositions and squares...erghh).

I guess I've just been willing to go with the changes. But Uranus has made me cranky, anxious, and generally demands more personal space than I can really afford myself. I've been shaking my fist at it for months now, as it just sat there and perched square my Saturn and Pluto.

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posted August 29, 2013 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it's all been pretty mundane (but I'm glad of that, because I really like my life for the most part). Disruptions to schedules like crazy. My step-dad passed, but Saturn was trine my sun, and Saturn always causes that sort of thing when it touches my sun.

I've just been more irritable, anxious, and generally disrupted than I normally am. And personal space is at a premium.

Thankfully, no major catastrophes yet.

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