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Topic: Depression/Suicide in the Natal Chart
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Ami Anne
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posted August 31, 2013 09:52 PM
  
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You didn't before
The thread was about depression/ suicide. I see the combust as causing mental or emotional imbalance. These could lead to depression. I am sorry if this is so perturbing for you, K. ------------------
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LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted August 31, 2013 09:55 PM
Any squares to the sun just creates a very sensitive person.IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted August 31, 2013 09:56 PM
I guess anything can cause depression in the chart.What about negative aspects with the sun and moon? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 31, 2013 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I guess anything can cause depression in the chart.What about negative aspects with the sun and moon?
Probably a combination.
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anonymidarkness
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posted August 31, 2013 10:01 PM
Afflicted planets in 12th can make the person both suicidal and depressive but it is just a possibility, it all depends upon how the person perceives the situation.IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted August 31, 2013 10:02 PM
So statistically most people are mentally unstable when mercury is within 10 degrees of their sun,
because that's what a conjunction/combustion is.Okay, makes sense.
Probably why there's so many crazy people in the world 
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SagittariusRising
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posted August 31, 2013 10:04 PM
Ami,Astute observation about combust Sun/Mercury. I have it within 10' of orb; it does affect the way I think. I find that I obsess over things often, particularly embarrassing moments and criticisms. A tight Neptune opposition doesn't help, either. It could definitely lead to (for lack of a better term) madness, which could lead to depression or suicidal thinking. IP: Logged |
LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted August 31, 2013 10:04 PM
Neptune seems to me to be a huge catalyst for Suicide. It's effects are extremely hard to get over in my opinion.Anyone have thoughts about Neptune? 12th house definitely has to do with depression and suicide, no matter what is in there. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 31, 2013 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
So statistically most people are mentally unstable when mercury is within 10 degrees of their sun,
because that's what a conjunction/combustion is.Okay, makes sense.
Probably why there's so many crazy people in the world
A lot of people have difficulty coping. It's common. They try to hide it/put on a brave face. You do not see their pain until they try to end it. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted August 31, 2013 10:06 PM
^ But a lot of people have other aspects too.IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted August 31, 2013 10:07 PM
No they don't, we're all screwed.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 31, 2013 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ But a lot of people have other aspects too.
That's why I vote for combination with Sun/Mercury combustion on the list of possibilities in the depressed or suicidal. It doesn't mean everyone with it will have it happen, it could be triggered by external events. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted August 31, 2013 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
No they don't, we're all screwed.
That sounds very depressing. I don’t want to suffer anymore, let’s commit mass suicide. Which method would be best? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted August 31, 2013 10:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
So statistically most people are mentally unstable when mercury is within 10 degrees of their sun,
because that's what a conjunction/combustion is.Okay, makes sense.
Probably why there's so many crazy people in the world
K
I have explained that the combust is the problem which is exact to 5.
Exact is very intense and it goes forward with 5 being less so. Exact to 2-3 is very intense imo The conjunction is good! It goes from 5/6 to 10.
This give keen intelligence.
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Kerosene
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posted August 31, 2013 10:15 PM
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If Budha suffers asta "burn-out", one remains clever but becomes too self-focused - literally "solipsistic". the native is intelligent and mentally adaptive with verbal fluency and quick response to five-senses stimuli.Yet, one may not easily comprehend the perceptions and feelings of others. The closer Budha gets to Surya, the more self-referential the native may become. One's own experience is less integrated with the experience of others. Solipsism is not always a bad thing for highly placed social leaders, whose duties may require a "full steam ahead" level of self-confidence unimpeded by the feelings or opinions of others. But for those located in the rank-and-file, such a person may be considered rather selfish or unaware. If Budha is more than 13/11 degrees away from Ravi, highly intelligent and helpful, youthful appearance, works well with younger people, excellent teacher if other conditions support teaching/training.
You know something is up when the scariest and the most fatalistic astro system is lenient about an aspect.
However sun/venus combustions are suppose to suck big time.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 31, 2013 10:15 PM
I would wait for the comet.IP: Logged |
SagittariusRising
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posted August 31, 2013 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
That sounds very depressing. I don’t want to suffer anymore, let’s commit mass suicide. Which method would be best?
A group viewing of Miley Cyrus' MTV VMA performance.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 31, 2013 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by SagittariusRising:
A group viewing of Miley Cyrus' MTV VMA performance.
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Ami Anne
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posted August 31, 2013 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by SagittariusRising:
Ami,Astute observation about combust Sun/Mercury. I have it within 10' of orb; it does affect the way I think. I find that I obsess over things often, particularly embarrassing moments and criticisms. A tight Neptune opposition doesn't help, either. It could definitely lead to (for lack of a better term) madness, which could lead to depression or suicidal thinking.
Thank you Sag! As I explained to K, it is good and beneficial when the conjunction is 5-6 to 10. I have 7. This does not make one super sensitive and close to oneself. This gives a keen mind. What is your orb? ------------------
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anonymidarkness
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posted August 31, 2013 10:17 PM
I would take some politician along with me.Humans are the only living beings that commit suicide. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted August 31, 2013 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I would take some politician with me.
anony 4 prez.
Can I be your campaign manager?
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Ami Anne
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posted August 31, 2013 10:21 PM
KYou said you did not believe in traditional rules such as the Domicile, Fall etc Is that what you mean? Like Venus in Scorpio is in the Fall so weakened. The reason these are true is because of the energy behind them. Energy is behind everything in the world, including the planets. ------------------
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Kerosene
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posted August 31, 2013 10:23 PM
Not really...
I truly deep down believe in psychological astrology... I just study other systems.
No placement is weak or strong for me.
It's just a matter of taste.I happen to love moon in scorpio and all its "nasty" energy. I'm not really impressed by taurus moon. IP: Logged |
SagittariusRising
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From: Splitting time between the Moon, Venus, Jupiter, & Neptune
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posted August 31, 2013 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you Sag!As I explained to K, it is good and beneficial when the conjunction is 5-6 to 10. I have 7. This does not make one super sensitive and close to oneself. This gives a keen mind. What is your orb?
10' orb. Mercury is 1°29', Sun is 1°39. In Cancer, no less! 
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Zander916
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posted August 31, 2013 10:26 PM
Newb question. Could say.... later in life (progressed chart) have enough influence to make a person snap out of (or into) depression? Plus, maybe mine was a transit or some sort?
EVERY SINGLE EPISODE going back was in the months of June, July, August. Essentially, reversed SAD. It does exist but highly rare. I guess I'm lucky. IP: Logged |
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