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Topic: Chart of an atheist
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mir Knowflake Posts: 1458 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted September 02, 2013 09:41 AM
I don't believe in any higher power, god, afterlife etc. I once did (like most here do now), strongly, before the age of 30. So I went from all to nothing or nothing to all, any thing has its pros and cons I guess. Virgo-asc/merc square the Nept./Saturn opposition (Saturn exactly square asc/merc) Aqua-Mars/NN 6th, back-to-earth. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 7934 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 09:45 AM
So what is astrology for you, mir?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1458 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted September 02, 2013 09:47 AM
Nature.IP: Logged |
chargeomentum Knowflake Posts: 323 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 10:01 AM
It's enterntainment.IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 02, 2013 11:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by somethingexcellent: Personally, I find the chart of a staunch atheist can be the same as a die hard religious person - it's about being firm in your conviction.
true. the thing is that atheism does not equal being a humanist, or a critical thinker...nor it does equal being a scientist. and unfortunately, some people fail to see that. atheists are not necessarily less racist or misogynistic as some of their religious counterparts either. this is such a myth there has been a nice debate on misogyny and atheism lately, esp. after rebecca watson ...im not surprised. i recall talking to some atheists...the majority being men, and it seemed that even though they had left religion (and even those who were raised as atheists) they still held racist and sexist beliefs comparable to other middle/upper class white men of other religions...it was potato/potahto. one interpreted the bible to suit sexist and racist beliefs, the other interpreted science to suit sexist and racist beliefs i prefer humanistic atheists.... the staunch rabid atheists remind me of the pagans who spend more time ranting and whining about the religion of their upbringing...than being pagan but i understand, it is a grief process...so, newcomers feel angry towards their past...except, there is a time when you need to move on, take charge, stop allowing the religion of your childhood to have so much power over you, and, turn the negativity into something productive, instead of behaving like a petulant tween. interesting article A Woman’s Place? The Dearth of Women in the Secular Movement by: Susan Jacoby http://thehumanist.org/september-october-2012/a-woman%E2%80% 99s-place-the-dearth-of-women-in-the-secular-movement/ IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 8636 From: Olympus Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 02, 2013 04:30 PM
You want more Kero?
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SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1542 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 04:35 PM
I don't believe in gods, I believe in humanity.IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 8776 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 04:36 PM
I do believe humans can be scarier than any god :sIP: Logged |
IrisRainbow Knowflake Posts: 707 From: Pluto Registered: Jul 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 04:37 PM
I have retrograted Jupiter and do not exactly believe in everything that people hand me so easily..But I am not an atheist,I believe in nature.However,I do like anarchy.IP: Logged |
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posted September 02, 2013 04:39 PM
lmfaaaaaaooo. Religion does blow.... MOAR HERA, pls :3lol I have neptune uranus and nn in the 8th house... I believe in aliens and I absolutely love reading about conspiracy theories. I'm step away from being a tin foil wearing hermit. 8th house ruler conjuncts mc. I believe in past lives and I'm pretty sure I was a nymph in one of my lives. because I have a strong connection with nudity and the outdoors. Which also pretty much my dream reality. Yeah but no nudist colonies because I don't want to see old hairy men.... IP: Logged |
Dark_Sun9 Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Exeter, United Kingdom Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 04:46 PM
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Dark_Sun9 Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Exeter, United Kingdom Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 04:58 PM
and i really don't understand how Sagittarius is in anyway connected to atheism? I'm Sag sun/mercury conjunct in the 1st squared to mars leo in the 9th and i follow beleifs fanaticly, Sagittarius is all about shooting for the higher wisdom ... I'd say Aries, Libra + Virgo are the least 'religous' signs + Capricorn the of courseIP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1542 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 05:01 PM
An Atheist can be spiritual because religion is something and spirituality is something else entirely.Buddhists for example are Atheists because they do not believe in a specific "god/deity" but rather a philosophy of life. btw, if you look up "Pagan" in the dic, you will find it defined as " someone who does not believe in Abrahamic religions" so to Jews, Christians and Muslims, he's still regarded as an Atheist no matter what he believes in. IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1542 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 05:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: I do believe humans can be scarier than any god :s
At least, we know for sure that humans are real.. IP: Logged |
Dark_Sun9 Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Exeter, United Kingdom Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 05:32 PM
Well that's idiotic. How can anyone beleive that one of the selected religions (Christianty, jewish, sikhism) etc .. can be true when theirs 10,000 people of a different religion worshiping a different god/diety at the same time. Spirituality is you creating your own religion based on life experienced, religion is basing it on someone elses and trusting it to be true. The only gods i slightly have beleif in are the egyptians, who were said to be cosmic beings who came in the pyramids and told us the truth of our galactic nature and our cosmic ritualistic relations (astrology), because Aliens with Birds heads and black dogs of death connected to the Star sirius to me are much more realistical than some fat guy with a beard chillin in the sky playin his ******* ps2 with his Prayer recorder full up. Beleive in the stars and our universe and it starts from their. Honestly with us leaving the piscean(pisces pisces pisces, this is why our religions are lost) age and going into the reformed age of atlantis (age of aquarius) i beleive Astrology is gonna be brought in to society as it now stands, and the pluto in scorpio generation are whats gonna make the change, what do you think? IP: Logged |
Dark_Sun9 Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Exeter, United Kingdom Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 05:55 PM
and i don't mean to offend anyones beleifs with that, I have Mars in the 9th in leo squared to pluto + jupiter in scorpio, can't help it. :PIP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1542 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 05:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dark_Sun9: Well that's idiotic. How can anyone beleive that one of the selected religions (Christianty, jewish, sikhism) etc .. can be true when theirs 10,000 people of a different religion worshiping a different god/diety at the same time. Spirituality is you creating your own religion based on life experienced, religion is basing it on someone elses and trusting it to be true. The only gods i slightly have beleif in are the egyptians, who were said to be cosmic beings who came in the pyramids and told us the truth of our galactic nature and our cosmic ritualistic relations (astrology), because Aliens with Birds heads and black dogs of death connected to the Star sirius to me are much more realistical than some fat guy with a beard chillin in the sky playin his ******* ps2 with his Prayer recorder full up. Beleive in the stars and our universe and it starts from their. Honestly with us leaving the piscean(pisces pisces pisces, this is why our religions are lost) age and going into the reformed age of atlantis (age of aquarius) i beleive Astrology is gonna be brought in to society as it now stands, and the pluto in scorpio generation are whats gonna make the change, what do you think?
nice perspective and I do agree with all of it. in my opinions,Abrahamic religions are the most self-absorbed, arrogant and hate-filled religions ever made in the history of this planet. They manipulate people through fear by using their trump card, Hell and Eternal Damnation. Everyone who disagrees with them becomes " the enemy". There's no such thing as tolerance and acceptance in their books, only man-made scripts of B-rated horror movies.
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 8776 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 05:59 PM
Afflicted placements in Sagittarius = atheism?I have Mars there, consider myself to be agnostic. Humans do not have all the answers, despite what they think. It's pompously arrogant and a mistake thinking they do. IP: Logged |
Dark_Sun9 Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Exeter, United Kingdom Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 06:05 PM
Astrology can bring the world together as a thing of spirituality, science, occult, religion etc... all wrapped up into one sexy lil birth chart IP: Logged |
Dark_Sun9 Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Exeter, United Kingdom Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 06:06 PM
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 02, 2013 06:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather:
Buddhists for example are Atheists because they do not believe in a specific "god/deity" but rather a philosophy of life.
this is not true.... i wish that western anti-theists, some atheists, western religions/spiritual people stopped spreading this myth....alas, it continues. aside from the fact there are different factions of buddhism, buddhism does have deities and god-like beings...and it does not state that there is no god or gods. this myth seems to crop up because some individuals limit their definition of 'god' to the judeo-christian-islamic one...and think..."oh, buddhism is an atheistic religion" and also...because most westerners have a crappy grasp of asian religions and continue projecting their understanding of western religion onto foreign religions...not good. heck...i know. true, you won't find the hebrew god in buddhism but, it doesn't mean that the religion denies there are no gods. now, on a personal level, buddhists can be atheists or theists, but that is personal. but...buddhism is not an atheist or atheistic religion. IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1542 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 06:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by hikoro: this is not true.... i wish that western anti-theists, some atheists, western religions/spiritual people stopped spreading this myth....alas, it continues. aside from the fact there are different factions of buddhism, buddhism does have deities and god-like beings...and it does not state that there is no god or gods. this myth seems to crop up because some individuals limit their definition of 'god' to the judeo-christian-islamic one...and think..."oh, buddhism is an atheistic religion" and also...because most westerners have a crappy grasp of asian religions and continue projecting their understanding of western religion onto foreign religions...not good. heck...i know. true, you won't find the hebrew god in buddhism but, it doesn't mean that the religion denies there are no gods. now, on a personal level, buddhists can be atheists or theists, but that is personal. but...buddhism is not an atheist or atheistic religion.
It's not my personal assumption, a couple of Buddhists told me that themselves. IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 02, 2013 06:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dark_Sun9:
in my opinions,Abrahamic religions are the most self-absorbed, arrogant and hate-filled religions ever made in the history of this planet. They manipulate people through fear by using their trump card, Hell and Eternal Damnation.
except that not all abrahamic religions have the concept of hell and damnation...and manipulating through fear is not a copyright of abrahamic religions... quote: Everyone who disagrees with them becomes " the enemy". There's no such thing as tolerance and acceptance in their books, only man-made scripts of B-rated horror movies.
mmm...that is a big generalization, but, im one of those who doesnt think that one religion is better or worse than the other, ive met people with very intolerant views, whether religious or non-religious. from my pov, it seems that some people from both sides (religious and non-religious) suffer from holier than thou attitudes...both trying to prove how they are superior against each other IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 02, 2013 06:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather: It's not my personal assumption, a couple of Buddhists told me that themselves.
are these buddhists living in any asian countries or asian households? and all of them told you they are explicitly atheists? im talking about buddhism in its traditional form...in asia, not in western societies where...im not saying it is wrong in the west, but, it has become far more influenced by western philosophy and ideas, imo. beyond that, only because some buddhists told you they are atheists, you cant say the same for all buddhists, there are millions of buddhists in the world....plenty who would not agree with you, living in asia (place of origin of buddhism)... IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 02, 2013 06:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather:
btw, if you look up "Pagan" in the dic, you will find it defined as " someone who does not believe in Abrahamic religions" so to Jews, Christians and Muslims, he's still regarded as an Atheist no matter what he believes in.
that may be the case...but, the term pagan has evolved so much, that nowadays, there will be jews and christians, and even muslims, that if you tell them you're pagan...they will know you follow neopaganism, either some form of polytheism or wicca, or even witchcraft. the ones who will judge you as an atheist tend to be the more extreme abrahamic followers. there is a lot of interfaith correspondence going on now between some abrahamic followers and pagans. IP: Logged |