posted September 02, 2013 06:35 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
except that not all abrahamic religions have the concept of hell and damnation...and manipulating through fear is not a copyright of abrahamic religions...

mmm...that is a big generalization, but, im one of those who doesnt think that one religion is better or worse than the other, ive met people with very intolerant views, whether religious or non-religious.
from my pov, it seems that some people from both sides (religious and non-religious) suffer from holier than thou attitudes...both trying to prove how they are superior against each other

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I was born and raised in a Muslim community and I'm not talking from some objective outsider's view, I'm talking about my own experience.
You have no idea about what I went through because I just happen to disagree with it.

posted September 02, 2013 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
I was born and raised in a Muslim community and I'm not talking from some objective outsider's view, I'm talking about my own experience and you have no idea about what I went through.

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that is good to know now, that you're talking about your own experience.
it is understandable...you are still hurt
i didnt mean to downplay your point of view or your emotions, i solely objected that it doesnt justify painting all of the abrahamic religions with the same brush. that is all...

posted September 02, 2013 06:50 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
that is good to know now, that you're talking about your own experience.
it is understandable...you are still hurt
i didnt mean to downplay your point of view or your emotions, i solely objected that it doesnt justify painting all of the abrahamic religions with the same brush. that is all...

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I personally haven't experienced anything that would make me believe otherwise but I'm not disrespectful of those who believe in it, just disagreeing with the religion itself. For an instant my best friend is Christian and I never made fun of his beliefs.

posted September 02, 2013 07:26 PM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:

I just wish if people were just as understanding of those who choose to leave these religions.

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posted September 02, 2013 07:54 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
im not abrahamic but...i do admit that to me, it gets sort of....interesting (and maybe, tiring) the criticism that abrahamic religions get in terms of being the most sexist and homophobic (i do need to make exceptions though towards the more progressive christians, sufi muslims, and the progressive jewish movements) now...i do understand the criticism in terms of politics, because they have an influence on the political arena...
but, in some asian countries, where abrahamic religions are not much of an influence, the sexism and homophobia (and xenophobia-racism) is very strong..and, one can trace these notions to some teachers and philosophers...
i dont know, to me, it seems that in western countries, asian religions are put on a pedestal and their less favorable nuances are underlooked...model minority religions stereotype? i mean, buddhism has had its violent past, yet, it is always portrayed as a peaceful religion, the same for hinduism. i dont think it is religion per se either, i think it is more culture and how testosterone-heavy the society is and the religion's creators, hence from here, the religion is influenced by certain social mores. there are a couple of traditional religions that are very egalitarian in terms of the sexes and lgbtq.

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I see why Western see Buddhism through pink-laced glasses. The grass is always greener on the other side..until you step into it.

I watched a full documentary once on the violent history of Buddhism, it was in Chinese but dubbed so I know, I already have an idea of its dark side.

the question is tell me one religion that people did not kill or hate in the name of its God ? Mention to me one religion that did not have a violent history ?

All religions do but I think it has more to do with human nature than anything else, violence will always remain an instinct of ours so we look for ways to justify it.

As far as Islam go, women can't even get have their full rights as human beings let alone the LGBT community..

Do you know what is the punishment of homosexuals in Shari'a Law ? Stoning to death in this very age and time.
So let's not bring up the dark side of Islam, because if I do, you will no longer hold any respect for it.

posted September 02, 2013 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
lol...

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Good idea to remove that prior post, K

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posted September 02, 2013 08:27 PM            

You are very strong, Friend. Bless you

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posted September 02, 2013 08:47 PM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:

I see why Western see Buddhism through pink-laced glasses. The grass is always greener on the other side..until you step into it.

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pretty much. esp. when asian religions are described in such a watered-down way in the west

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All religions do but I think it has more to do with human nature than anything else, violence will always remain an instinct of ours so we look for ways to justify it.

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i agree, even if religions disappeared, humans would still find a way to be violent.

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So let's not bring up the dark side of Islam, because if I do, you will no longer hold any respect for it.

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i actually do hold respect for islam, as a matter of fact, i hold respect for all religions, and nontheistic philosophies like secular humanism. and, i know of that dark side as you say. does it mean that i advocate for sharia law? that im for halal and think that people who commit haram deserve the worst of the worst like some say? no. does it mean im one of those cultural relativists? no.
i have not lived it, but, ive had my negative experiences too with certain people, and i do not resent them or the communities they represent.

posted September 02, 2013 08:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Okay, Ami.
What is your opinion about other religions?

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I am very honest, K. You seem very contentious with me, lately.

I ignore people who seem like they want to fight.

You seem like you want to pick a fight with me and my dance card is full

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posted September 02, 2013 08:53 PM            

morelove@mychristianpsychic.com

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posted September 02, 2013 09:01 PM              

Who cares what others think, you can express your beliefs and be politically incorrect in threads like this.

posted September 02, 2013 09:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
What's wrong with that question?

Who cares what others think, you can express your beliefs and be politically incorrect in threads like this.

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If you have a SERIOUS inquiry, you will e mail me.

I do not wish to answer here. Blessings to you, K.

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posted September 02, 2013 11:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is really [b]not cute to make fun of the Christian religion, Hera.

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Oh, I am not making fun of christianity, per se. Your affirmation is not exact. In this thread I merely posted memes that other people made. You could say they were making fun of it and I quoted them.

Personally, I think christianity makes fun of itself quite well. Doesn't need my help. All it takes is reading the bible.

Besides, technically it is still my religion. They forcefully baptized me as one, not taking into consideration I'm not gonna buy into it. So, I know very well what I am talking about and can shove those believes where the sun don't shine.

Not cute? Who cares? Was it cute to persecute people on behalf of it? Was it cute to instill shame and guilt and push people sometimes to suicide on behalf of it? Oh yeah, SUICIDE! A colleague of mine back in medschool attempted suicide because her perfect religion damned her for getting a nose job (vanity! she was going to burn in hell!).

posted September 03, 2013 12:11 AM            

One is a Pisces, one is a Libra, one is an Aries, and actually...another is a Pisces with Scorpio AC and a packed 3rd house.

posted September 03, 2013 12:33 AM            

Scorpio AC 28 degrees.

Aquarius/Pisces stellium in 3rd house.
Virgo Pluto/Uranus conj in 9th house.
Scorpio Neptune 12th house.

Aquarius Moon and Saturn conj in 3rd house.
Pisces Mars, Mercury, and Sun conj in 3rd house.

Mars and Mercury in Pisces 3rd house opp Pluto in Virgo 9th house.

Moon square Neptune.

posted September 03, 2013 12:40 AM            

She's very science oriented and has a Sagittarius ascendant, too, with chart ruler conjunct sun. Neptune is very quiet in her chart.

posted September 03, 2013 01:17 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
anything is possible, we don't have all the answers and I simply do not know what's out there and haven't gotten existence entirely figured out - no one does. You cannot be sure of anything on a sub atomic level.

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Yeah, I agree with you there. While I find the memes rather humorous, and I'm not a fan of organized religion, I am most definitely not an atheist; I simultaneously don't purport to know everything there is to know about life after death or God (or science, for that matter).

I used to become really irate with blindly religious people and atheists alike, but I've calmed down about it, for the sake of my own peace of mind. *shrug*

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