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chargeomentum
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posted September 03, 2013 08:58 AM
  
In any case people, you have no right to call believers or atheists idiots, because you, yourself are into astrology, and some of you even follow it blindly.Btw nobody answered if there's such thing as being indifferent towards religions? I mean is it called anything? Like common sense, or your own mind. ANYWAY, haha there's probably not a single topic in the world about religion that doesn't have debates in it. IP: Logged |
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posted September 03, 2013 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by chargeomentum:
Btw nobody answered if there's such thing as being indifferent towards religions?
It's called agnosticism. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted September 03, 2013 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Christians are the one group that can be dissed on a public board and people can get away with it.
When you laugh at Jesus, remember He is sacred to some of us.
Our freedom of thought is sacred to us, too. Like I said, I would not have any problem with whatever you choose to believe in, as long as you keep it to yourself and don't judge the rest from your high horse. I cannot tolerate intolerance or poisoning young minds with shame, guilt or fear. When I will see a Christian acting like a 'christian', from a place of love and not one of arrogance, he or she will have my respect. Otherwise, nope. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted September 03, 2013 01:21 PM
Here, Cappy.Like I said, I don't have the time of birth for a lot of people (and don't want to ask), but there are some interesting placements for a Sag friend of mine as well. The common theme that I see with my friends is Pluto conjunct something like Saturn or Uranus in a naturally skeptical/intellectual sign, and then making a hard aspect to personal planets. The houses involved are probably relevant, of course. My atheist Sag friend has Virgo Pluto and Uranus conj
both opp Pisces Saturn A Mutable Grand Square between Sag Sun, Gemini Moon, Pluto, Uranus, and Saturn. Gemini Moon is conj NN
Jupiter also in Gemini. This person is an author and an instructor, very politically minded. His wife is fairly devout in her religion (which is not remotely Abrahamic), and he is very tolerant of her religious/spiritual beliefs, but simply doesn't have the belief that there's anything "more". So there's that. IP: Logged |
earthypisces
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posted September 03, 2013 01:23 PM
It's interesting. I always see Pisces, Capricorn, and Sag listed as the most religious signs. I don't really consider myself an Atheist, but I am very anti-religion. I don't believe in any specific god (any of the ones in religious texts). I'm a Capricorn dominant Pisces with a 9th house stellium (it's my house with the most planets too).Most of my friends are Christians (although most non practicing), so I usually just don't bring it up around them. I do think Aquarius Mercury could contribute. I'm not saying everyone with that placement is going to be an Atheist (most probably aren't), but it usually does make someone a free thinker, regardless of whatever they believe. I also have Venus conjunct Uranus, so I'm not really afraid to go against society's norms. ------------------
Pisces Sun
Capricorn Moon/Venus
Taurus Ascendant
Aquarius Mercury
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Ami Anne
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posted September 03, 2013 01:26 PM
My experience with Saggis is that they have a respect for people who believe in God. Jupiter is their ruling planet and it is the planet of God and spirituality.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted September 03, 2013 02:05 PM
My Sag stellium friend is pretty traditional in religious views, although he doesn't practice his religion that much by sharing with others or attending church regularly. He doesn't like it when people criticize God, he thinks bad things will happen if they do. He doesn't like Satanism or anything like that.
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Hera
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posted September 03, 2013 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I actually find Sag placements (other than the Sun for some reason) to be quite interested and respectful of religion.
Sag Moons especially are often religious people of some sort.
4 Sag planets, including Moon. I am spiritual (Moon conj Neptune) but not religious. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted September 03, 2013 02:22 PM
I only see a minimal correlation with Sun signs and religious/spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof). What I'm noticing (with my untrained eye, I might add) is the Pluto conjunctions in signs that are traditionally "critical thinkers", and other hard Pluto aspects in addition to the conjunctions.I don't like to generalize or lump people into a category based on aspects in their chart, as I believe that we are all able to do what we want to with our blueprints--but it *might* be fair to say that people with these combinations might have difficulty accepting spirituality. I'm about to look at my ex's chart, who was at the very least an agnostic, probably closer to an atheist although he never made any declarations of it. He also has a Pluto conjunction that makes hard aspects to other planets. I find that interesting, but as I've mentioned, I don't like to assume that *everyone* with similar placements is going to be doubtful regarding spiritual matters. I have Sag and Libra friends (and an Aquarius friend) who are very spiritual people, and my Aquarius/Sag Moon friend is very spiritually open minded, but simultaneously sticks with her Catholic roots. She burns sage and practices Reiki, but still attends mass, haha. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted September 03, 2013 02:25 PM
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Ugh. I should read everyone's posts more thoroughly before commenting, haha.
I blame my AC opp Mercury.
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chargeomentum
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posted September 03, 2013 02:45 PM
haha violets perfectionist.2 of my sagg friends are neither spiritual nor religious. I know that because they are very frank about their opinions. Or maybe they aren't THAT frank?? Well 1 one of them I really don't know that well, but the other I don't know if you can say that but is somehow tied to such things. He hates Jews for some reason. I don't know if that has to do anything with religion. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted September 03, 2013 03:12 PM
^^Yikes!
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Ami Anne
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posted September 03, 2013 03:12 PM
I have the chart opposite an atheist. I have gem sun, Nerc and venus and Cancer Moon in the 9th House.------------------
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Violets
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posted September 03, 2013 03:20 PM
My ex's chart (again, an agnostic at the very least, more like an atheist--but definitely had a very difficult time with spiritual beliefs, although he was raised Catholic).Taurus Sun, Virgo AC, Gemini Moon. Again with the Virgo Pluto conjunction (Pluto, Mars, Uranus conj in 12th house) opposite Pisces Saturn in 6th house, square Gemini Moon in 10th house. Gemini Moon and NN are also conj. I'm just saying...I think Pluto conjunctions in addition to other hard Pluto aspects have a lot to do with this, especially if Pluto falls in a "critical thinker" sign. Like my Libra friend with Pluto Saturn conj in Libra, square her Capricorn Moon.
I'll take a look at some more people and see if there are more spiritually open people who have similar placements. IP: Logged |
SilverFeather
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posted September 03, 2013 03:38 PM
I was born in a pretty religious environment but gradually I started to doubt everything I was told, I left my religion of birth and embraced agnosticism for 3 years then I started to explore other religions but nothing felt right so I remained an agnostic atheist till this very moment.I have a 5 planets Stellium in Sagittarius, 3rd House. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted September 03, 2013 03:48 PM
Here, my dad is a bit of an agnostic. He generally identifies as Christian, but he has his doubts (it seems to go in waves). He watches shows like Ancient Aliens, believes in science based concepts like energy, and that sort of thing...but I would classify him as an agnostic.Libra sun, Leo AC, Pisces Moon. Again, Pluto and Saturn conj in his 1st house, Saturn square Scorpio Jupiter in 4th house. BUT... His Pluto and Saturn are both involved in a double Yod with his 8th house Pisces Moon, as is his Neptune and Venus (conj Libra 3rd house). So there's that. He's definitely not an atheist, but he seems to struggle with wanting scientific evidence and having spiritual faith. It's like his Pisces Moon in 8th *knows* that there is a spiritual connection to something, but he struggles with wanting something concrete to back that up.
My dad is awesome. My Sun conj his Moon, both in 8th house, and my brother's moon as well (but in a different house). The three of us have awesome conversations.  IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted September 03, 2013 04:52 PM
That's so cool, about your collective synastries!! I think you might be onto something with the Pluto conjunctions. I have Saturn (early Scorpio) conjunct Pluto (late Libra), in the 9th house, mind you, opposite Mars and Mercury in the 3rd, in Aries. All of them square Asc/DC axis. Also worth mentioning that Saturn is not only ruler of Asc, but also of the 12th house. I actually did practice Christianity when I was little, I was forced to, but I always felt their routines, beliefs and customs are irrational and weird and could not understand how anybody with an IQ > 90 even could follow them so blindly.
My father is a full blown atheist. He is Aqua Sun, Cap Moon, Cap rising. He doesn't have Pluto conjunctions, but he does have Sun opposite Pluto. His Moon is conj Chiron in the 12th house. He has Saturn in the 9th (same as me but in Libra) and also Neptune. Libra is on his 9th house cusp, same as in my case.
My mother is a religious fanatic. Taurus Sun, Aqua Moon, both forming a T-square with Pluto. I don't know her birthtime but I am guessing either Aries or Leo rising. My money is on the Aries.
Like I stated previously, I am an agnostic and humanist. Aries Sun, Sag Moon, Cap rising.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted September 03, 2013 04:58 PM
My mom isn't a fanatic but she has more faith than I with her Leo sun, Virgo stellium in 11th and 12th house. Definitely NOT agnostic. She is a person of faith but she doesn't attend church and doesn't do any witnessing. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted September 03, 2013 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have the chart opposite an atheist. I have gem sun, Nerc and venus and Cancer Moon in the 9th House.
Of course not, Ami. You are a religious fanatic, albeit a very dangerous one, bordering on psychopathy.
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
In New Testament times, a person who has accepted Jesus as personal savior and lord can do ANYTHING and not break the law. That person can kill, steal, do terrorism, hate, rape etc and still have God's grace. Your eyebrows raise. You want to throw tomatoes at me but let me explain. In the NT Dispensation, Jesus has borne all our sins. That means that anything I do is forgiven by God. I can kill a hundred people with a machine gun and still be forgiven. I can hate and act like Hitler and still be forgiven. In fact, God will never cast me out for my actions.
I wonder, is this mentality "cute" to you?? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted September 03, 2013 05:05 PM
My dad is a sun Sagittarius and he would never ever think of going to any church but a Catholic one. He was born to Catholic parents, was raised that way. My mom, sun Leo, Virgo moon/stellium was raised Baptist and he refused to ever attend her church but she went to mass every week with him, heh.
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Ami Anne
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posted September 03, 2013 05:11 PM
Hera
That is uncalled for.
It reflects badly on you as well as on your being a Mod for LL.
Act like a Mod and be a good representative, please. Thank you.  ------------------
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Hera
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posted September 03, 2013 05:18 PM
Oh really? Why? Are those not your words and your beliefs? Have I told a lie? You are a religious fanatic, are you not? I think your chart is indicative of it. We can talk about it if you want. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 03, 2013 05:22 PM
Let's move on, Friends.------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted September 03, 2013 05:23 PM
Anyone else have anything on topic?------------------
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SilverFeather
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posted September 03, 2013 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Oh really? Why? Are those not your words and your beliefs? Have I told a lie? You are a religious fanatic, are you not? I think your chart is indicative of it. We can talk about it if you want.
Hera, let it go. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
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