posted September 04, 2013 10:40 AM            

Chiron is a very powerful planet that many people dismiss imo.

Each person has it in one particular house but there are some Chiron placements which are worse than others.

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posted September 04, 2013 12:06 PM            

I am very tolerant of all religions. At the same time I am also very wary and suspicious of someone trying to brainwash me into accepting their religious beliefs.

I've never been abused and I've always had full freedom of religion. I have never had to feel pain because of religion.

posted September 04, 2013 12:06 PM            

i did meet a few people who try to control you through it, even if you are from another religion, but i just stay away.
I also learnt not to share my 'religious' beliefs with anyone.
i guess i'm agnostic, and those who believe they have all the answers because of their religion, don't like hearing that.

however i did spend a lot of my earlier life in countries that are really crazy about their religion, and that didn't leave such a great impression on me.

(basically it told me what i don't like...that is, religion(as so many have misunderstood it to be) is a falsehood that is just there by humans pretending to be gods, to control other humans, and if they really respected a higher power they'd know to live and let live,as taking other peoples freedoms while pretending it is for their own good is a hypocrisy that hypocrisy itself would shy away from....i guess this is my Chiron in the 9th speaking lol.)

posted September 04, 2013 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Moon is Lunatic:
I have this placement, but I haven't suffered through religion.

I'm not religious, neither do I belong to a some religion.

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Ditto.
No religious oriented abuse whatsoever in my life. I've always had the freedom to choose whatever I wanted to believe spiritually, and that has worked very well for me. I am deeply spiritual, but not religious at all.

Like others have mentioned, I am wary of organized religions, and tend to keep my spiritual views to myself a good deal of the time when I am speaking with devoutly religious people. I dislike it when I perceive judgmental attitudes based on religious beliefs.

However, I can usually find a common ground with most religions, as I believe that there are positives and negatives within all religions, and it doesn't really matter which road you take, so long as you're doing your best to be a decent human being (which is difficult enough, considering human nature).

I think this placement (for myself) may manifest as an inherent understanding of how religion causes people to suffer unnecessarily through guilt, shame, and abuse based on personal interpretations of obscure religious texts.

I think Sag and 9th house are very involved in fair judgment and personal freedom. That's how Chiron seems to manifest for me here. I become deeply hurt and angered by the tragedies that occur in the name of religion, but I can simultaneously understand the human condition and see that we're all flawed in our own ways.

Hope that helps.

posted September 04, 2013 08:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
With my clients, I see this as abuse at the hands of religion. Does anyone have Chiron in the 9th or has had experience with it.

Chiron is a very powerful planet that many people dismiss imo.

Each person has it in one particular house but there are some Chiron placements which are worse than others.

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I have this placement. Along with my Moon in the 9th.

posted September 05, 2013 08:17 AM            

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posted September 05, 2013 08:20 AM            

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Originally posted by SunMoonStars:
I have this (20 deg Pisces, retrograde). I don't really "feel it".

I am very tolerant of all religions. At the same time I am also very wary and suspicious of someone trying to brainwash me into accepting their religious beliefs.

I've never been abused and I've always had full freedom of religion. I have never had to feel pain because of religion.

So all in all I have always considered the 9th house one of the easier placements for Chiron.

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The 9th house Chiron is not the hardest Chiron. That would be conj the ASC or the MC imo

I think that hard aspects to the Chiron in the 9th would make it worse.

Easy aspects would mitigate it.

I believe that the house of the Chiron is each person's deepest wound. That is my opinion.

If people don't resonate with that, I wonder if their houses are wrong or if they are in denial.

I will always believe an accurate chart over a personal opinion.

I just respect the charts that much and people can be in denial and often are.

That is one man's opinion.

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posted September 05, 2013 08:21 AM            

Do you have positive Chiron aspects like trines, sextile etc?

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posted September 05, 2013 09:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I believe that the house of the Chiron is each person's deepest wound. That is my opinion.

If people don't resonate with that, I wonder if their houses are wrong or if they are in denial.
That is one man's opinion.

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I'm wondering if you are suggesting that the only interpretation for Chiron in 9th is abuse through religion...and if so, why did you ask us about it, if you are only going to imply that we're all in denial or have incorrect house placements if we don't agree with you?

posted September 05, 2013 09:49 AM            

The 9th house can mean other things too such as higher education. A person may have wanted to go to college and could not.

The person may have pain in moving a long distance away from his home.

You are right. It is more than abuse from religion.

I stand corrected.

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posted September 05, 2013 09:53 AM            

However, each house stands for what it stands for and there are several things represented by each house.

If I have a client who tells me a different story than the accurate chart, I will not work with him/her because I think that person can't/won't face the truth.

To me, Astrology allows the gift of facing oneself. I do not have time for anything less

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posted September 05, 2013 10:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You can ask me anything and you can give your opinions on anything.

The 9th house can mean other things too such as higher education. A person may have wanted to go to college and could not.

The person may have pain in moving a long distance away from his home.

You are right. It is more than abuse from religion.

I stand corrected.

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posted September 05, 2013 11:37 AM            

Ami Anne, it seems you were looking for answers that would back your own theory (IMO very off) and when you did not get them, you accuse people of being in denial.

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