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Topic: Sadism Vs Masochism in the Chart
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LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted September 07, 2013 09:41 PM
  
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Originally posted by Violets:
...I'll bet he was miffed when he figured out what you were doing, hahaha. Occasionally, my Scorpio boyfriend would want to be slightly submissive (not often), and I can only assume that might have been the Pisces and Cancer speaking there.
He got so dark and twisted, the first time and he was telling me to meet him somewhere, I was like hell no. I was very dominating with him though, we were in power struggles with each other. I am an Aquarius with a Pluto in the 7th house. There was an article in scorpioland about Pluto in the 7th house, it is a placement that is more controlling than a Scorpio lol IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted September 07, 2013 09:53 PM
@ Ami
 Well, I don't mind talking about it too much. Where I come from, and where most of my friends and acquaintances are, it's reasonably common. Pacific Northwest cities are pretty notoriously open-minded and don't care much about societal norms, so most people I know are at least familiar with the concept. I've tried to move away from those inclinations within my marriage, as it's not really based on sex, but rather on love. Sometimes, however, as certain planets (and Lilith) make aspects to my natal chart, it comes on strong again and I begin to think that I should have been born in a place and time where I could have been a concubine, haha. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 07, 2013 09:54 PM
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Violets
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posted September 07, 2013 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is your Moon, Violets?
Virgo Moon, likes to be of service to others, haha. These days it primarily manifests in social work. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted September 07, 2013 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:
He got so dark and twisted, the first time and he was telling me to meet him somewhere, I was like hell no. I was very dominating with him though, we were in power struggles with each other. I am an Aquarius with a Pluto in the 7th house. There was an article in scorpioland about Pluto in the 7th house, it is a placement that is more controlling than a Scorpio lol
Oh, lordy. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 07, 2013 10:04 PM
I wonder if a submissive would have Pluto conj the DSC. What do you think?
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Violets
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posted September 07, 2013 10:12 PM
I thought Lies had Pluto conj DC?
Maybe I'm mistaken in that, though... I don't know. My Pluto is in 3rd...?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 07, 2013 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Violets:
I thought Lies had Pluto conj DC?
Maybe I'm mistaken in that, though... I don't know. My Pluto is in 3rd...?
I don't remember if she did or not.
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Ami Anne
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posted September 07, 2013 10:16 PM
Wow Lies, about Pluto in the 7th. ------------------
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LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted September 07, 2013 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I wonder if a submissive would have Pluto conj the DSC. What do you think?
A submissive would have pluto conjunct DSC, but a dominant would have it in the 7th house conjunct the 8th house cusp. I have it very close to the 8th house cusp cobjunct nessus and ceres. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 07, 2013 10:17 PM
Could we say that the House of Pluto is where you like to control OR not give up control?------------------
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LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted September 07, 2013 10:20 PM
In the earth and water houses pluto does not want to give out power. In the air ans fire, it is a giver.IP: Logged |
LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted September 07, 2013 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Could we say that the House of Pluto is where you like to control OR not give up control?
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Ami Anne
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posted September 07, 2013 10:21 PM
It is weird about control. I have Pluto in the 11th and the idea of being controlled by group think is so abhorrent to me.
\When I was in college, I did not join a sorority because the idea that I may be controlled by a group( or group think) and not be able to stand up really was upsetting to me. I did not feel strong in college so I stayed away from these kind of groups where there may be pressure to conform and I may not be strong enough to resist. Isn't that weird that I have Pluto in the 11th and was like this? What do you think? ------------------
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Violets
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posted September 07, 2013 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Could we say that the House of Pluto is where you like to control OR not give up control?
I think that's fair to say (based on my limited knowledge about certain houses). The description of Pluto in 3rd rings quite true for me. I don't give up control in 3rd house areas. I may keep my council, but I won't give up my own personal power. IP: Logged |
LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted September 07, 2013 10:28 PM
That makes sense about pluto in the 11th house.
I have saturn in the 11th house and next year when i head to university i will not be entering a sorority.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 08, 2013 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:
That makes sense about pluto in the 11th house.
I have saturn in the 11th house and next year when i head to university i will not be entering a sorority.
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Ami Anne
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posted September 08, 2013 09:15 AM
Any thoughts about Moons here? Would mutable moons be more of a the masochist?------------------
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Violets
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posted September 08, 2013 10:45 AM
Hm...I don't know, Ami. One ex had a Gemini moon, but his was the chart I showed on the sadism thread. But then he had a bunch of other stuff...Pluto/Mars/Uranus conj 12th house, Taurus Sun, etc.Maybe just signs that are kind of notorious for being a bit subservient, as opposed to signs that are notorious for being controlling? IP: Logged |
butterflyxoxxo
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posted September 08, 2013 11:54 PM
My boyfriend and I share a BDSM lifestyle. For him it is mandatory for a successful happy relationship, he is a true sadist. We consider things like 50 shades of grey to be more "mainstream bondage" the type we partake in, is a lot more intense and requires loads of trust and communication and even still there is inherent danger. We have a box full of all different types of devices and tools that he likes to use and we are even members of a BDSM association where we go to use some of the equipment that would otherwise be unavailable to us. We also have a loose version of the "taken in hand" lifestyle although this is more tricky because I am too argumentative outside of sex.He has loads of Pluto aspects natally, the most notable being Pluto square ascendant **pluto square ascendant excerpt from website: "Taboo sex, death, stalkers and spies...S & M may be healing and cathartic for these types more than most. Hard aspects to Pluto sometimes feel like you have some massive karmic debt to pay off and that all relationships are “fated”." Some of my aspects are
Saturn in 1st
Saturn conj Neptune (which I read thrives on being restricted)
Pluto conj Sun
Pluto conj Venus
My Jupiter is in the 8th house Some notable composite aspects: Pluto in 7th house
Sun square Pluto
Venus trine Pluto
Jupiter trine Pluto
Saturn trine Pluto
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Ami Anne
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posted September 09, 2013 08:55 AM
Wow Butterfly. Thank you.What are his placements? If you want to put up the synastry or your or his charts, please do so.
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Ami Anne
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posted September 09, 2013 09:05 AM
Also, the Child Asteroid and even Pholus, if you want.------------------
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Celestica
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posted September 09, 2013 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Any thoughts about Moons here? Would mutable moons be more of a the masochist?
I know several sadistic/masochistic people. The most common moon seems to be Capricorn, especially if afflicted. Mars and Venus are also important, usually afflicted by Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto, or in detriment/fall. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 09, 2013 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by Celestica:
I know several sadistic/masochistic people. The most common moon seems to be Capricorn, especially if afflicted. Mars and Venus are also important, usually afflicted by Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto, or in detriment/fall.
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posted September 09, 2013 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you, Friend. Do you see the sadist being one Moon in particular?
I think the aspects might be more important with this one, possibly fixed Moons though with an emphasis on Taurus. I know an Aquarius man with Taurus Moon opposite Scorpio Pluto who is very sadistic IP: Logged |
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