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Topic: Virgo and Taurus's true rulers.
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Sailor Gemini Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Magellan Castle, Venus Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 01:49 AM
Oh shoot, nervermind, Hephaistos is 0 degrees Cancer... ^_^" haha!------------------ A killer 'lady', sinful as the perfect liar, but sweeter than the sweetest devil. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3895 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 01:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sailor Gemini: Are you sure? Do you at least have the degrees of your Virgo asteroids?
Yes, but I thought they must be planets, not asteroids? Aphrodite at 13 degrees Pallas at 12 degrees Astrea at 26 degrees Vesta at 12 degrees So if you do count asteroids, then Aphrodite, Pallas and Vesta are in a stellium in Virgo in the 2nd House then? IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 08, 2013 01:53 AM
quote: Vulcan is your logical and critical thinking skills while Mercury is your communication and intellect
Anything which is a mental faculty is divided between either Mercury or Venus (the left and right brain respectively), so I don't think Vulcan has any role or need. All in all, I remain unconvinced on Vulcan. quote: Mercurian Intellect: How can Mythology logically interpret the Science of Astrology? It can't, I 'think' it was just associated with Astrology because of Mythology's popularity within the Greek society and it was similar because it had to do with planets. Obviously Mythology is fake, so if Astrology is solely based of Mythology, then Astrology must be fake then right?
Hm, I think I like you because you're stimulating. If you aren't convinced, though, I may end up doubting your Mercurian intellect. First of all, you are thinking fallaciously again. Mythology/spirituality, astrology, and science are not logical things, so to ask for a logical interpretation is wrong from the start. Astrology isn't a science that we can quantify given our current tools either, so saying the "science of astrology" is also wrong from the start. Any ways, one thing I think you have to realise about astrology and mythology to understand how they're related is that they are intangible concepts that require a subscription of belief. They are related because they share core concepts which you must apply. Venus, goddess of beauty, and Venus, planet associated prominently with love - how can they be related aside from name? You must go deep. Journey with me, little Virgo, let this Scorpion boy be your guide. Love and beauty are both ideals. Venus the goddess represents an ideal of society and Venus the planet governs ideals at her core. It is not coincidence that an ideal goddess had a planet named after her that would become a planet governing ideals - mythology and astrology are intertwined. Now to get meta! During my stay in LL I've met and interacted with many very wise people who shaped my view on astrology. One such view is that the very collective conscious is what powers astrology. We may not be able to quantify it yet, but I believe collective conscious is an energy. Science can't even explain why we are alive, and yet here we are, and by the same measure, modern science can't explain astrology or the spiritual. Is it any stretch of the imagination to think that if millions of people believe a planet influences them, that very belief reflects off that planet back at us...? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9002 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 08, 2013 01:54 AM
Maybe the asteroid Harmonia rules Libra?IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3895 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 01:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sailor Gemini: Oh shoot, nervermind, Hephaistos is 0 degrees Cancer... ^_^" haha!
Yeah so i was right, Vulkanus, I have that in Cancer as well. IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Magellan Castle, Venus Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 01:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: Yes, but I thought they must be planets, not asteroids? Aphrodite at 13 degrees Pallas at 12 degrees Astrea at 26 degrees Vesta at 12 degrees
Aphrodite as in, Venus-Aphrodite, and I do count asteroids as Planets, but not as planets. If you get what I'm saying. ------------------ A killer 'lady', sinful as the perfect liar, but sweeter than the sweetest devil. IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Magellan Castle, Venus Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 01:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Maybe the asteroid Harmonia rules Libra?
But how does She suit the lovers axis? Then again, war and peace could make sense too. Influence over Libra? ------------------ A killer 'lady', sinful as the perfect liar, but sweeter than the sweetest devil. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9002 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 08, 2013 01:59 AM
Libra's supposed to rule harmony so it's appropriate. What about the asteroid Hay? Maybe it could rule Taurus? P.S. Aphrodite is a separate asteroid I think. IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Magellan Castle, Venus Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 02:01 AM
Yeah... I figured that'd cause confusion. But there's an asteroid called Hay?------------------ A killer 'lady', sinful as the perfect liar, but sweeter than the sweetest devil. IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted September 08, 2013 02:01 AM
Eris is the commonly referred by astrologers online as the true ruler of libra. I don't think the mythology really adds up... I think Eris is the co ruler of Aries, maybe... Europa definitely is a candidate for taurus IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Magellan Castle, Venus Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 02:04 AM
Agreed.------------------ A killer 'lady', sinful as the perfect liar, but sweeter than the sweetest devil. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9002 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 08, 2013 02:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sailor Gemini: Yeah... I figured that'd cause confusion. But there's an asteroid called Hay?
yeah, it's perfect for Taurus. Bulls eat hay *shrug* @ kero - isn't Eris too irritating for Libra :s IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted September 08, 2013 02:07 AM
Thou I am starting to believe signs can have multiple rulers..Or in certain signs asteroids and minor planets they have domicile Love asteroids would obviously be happy in sensual venus ruled signs. Eros must be exalted in gemini!!! These people are just so attractive, but I'm biased.. Basically there can be more than one ruler!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Magellan Castle, Venus Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 02:07 AM
I would think She was. Edit! I'm convinced of the same thing, but exaltations are harder to configure without the mythologies. ------------------ A killer 'lady', sinful as the perfect liar, but sweeter than the sweetest devil.IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted September 08, 2013 02:16 AM
But seriously to op... Although this is very fun I am completely convinced on the traditional rulerships. They have worked for astrologers since.. forever!Also poor taurus, always being picked at for not being pretty enough, I think it's the most romantic and sensual side of Venus.. :3 Libra is the more superficial side of venus. It's is basically a prude version of gemini Not enough to represent the whole planet!!! Also the masculine feminine polarity make sense for the planets. Venus rules taurus Virgo rules mercury. Mercury needs virgo!!!! or it's literally useless with gemini being all scatter brained. IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Magellan Castle, Venus Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 02:18 AM
A prude version of Gemini? lol, that's interesting.------------------ A killer 'lady', sinful as the perfect liar, but sweeter than the sweetest devil. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3895 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 02:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by somethingexcellent: Hm, I think I like you because you're stimulating. If you aren't convinced, though, I may end up doubting your Mercurian intellect. First of all, you are thinking fallaciously again. Mythology/spirituality, astrology, and science are not logical things, so to ask for a logical interpretation is wrong from the start. Astrology isn't a science that we can quantify given our current tools either, so saying the "science of astrology" is also wrong from the start. Any ways, one thing I think you have to realise about astrology and mythology to understand how they're related is that they are intangible concepts that require a subscription of belief. They are related because they share core concepts which you must apply. Venus, goddess of beauty, and Venus, planet associated prominently with love - how can they be related aside from name? You must go deep. Journey with me, little Virgo, let this Scorpion boy be your guide. Love and beauty are both ideals. Venus the goddess represents an ideal of society and Venus the planet governs ideals at her core. It is not coincidence that an ideal goddess had a planet named after her that would become a planet governing ideals - mythology and astrology are intertwined. Now to get meta! During my stay in LL I've met and interacted with many very wise people who shaped my view on astrology. One such view is that the very collective conscious is what powers astrology. We may not be able to quantify it yet, but I believe collective conscious is an energy. Science can't even explain why we are alive, and yet here we are, and by the same measure, modern science can't explain astrology or the spiritual. Is it any stretch of the imagination to think that if millions of people believe a planet influences them, that very belief reflects off that planet back at us...?
If Astrology is true, then it will be considered a Science, correct? I understand what you're saying that Astrology and Mythology aren't tangible, so it requires a belief. I see what you're saying about Mythologys similarities with Astrology. I know that the goddess Venus and planet Venus being similar isn't a coincidence, that'd be weird, lol. Now before I get corrected, I'm admitting I don't really know much on the history of Mythology, but what if those Deity's characteristics from Mythology are based on the planet's and asteroid's characteristics from Astrology? Oh and I have thought similar on the collective conscious thing, I had a thought maybe the planets don't really influence us at all, that maybe it is something else that we do not yet know exactly IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3895 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 02:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Maybe the asteroid Harmonia rules Libra?
Hmm... well that can perhaps give an influence similar to Libra. What does it represent? IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3895 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 02:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sailor Gemini: Aphrodite as in, Venus-Aphrodite, and I do count asteroids as Planets, but not as planets. If you get what I'm saying.
Oh, no the asteroid, lol. IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted September 08, 2013 02:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sailor Gemini: A prude version of Gemini? lol, that's interesting.
Well they are both intelligent, sociable, charismatic, and popular signs but libra tends to dislike lewd behavior. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3895 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 02:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: But seriously to op... Although this is very fun I am completely convinced on the traditional rulerships. They have worked for astrologers since.. forever!Also poor taurus, always being picked at for not being pretty enough, I think it's the most romantic and sensual side of Venus.. :3 Libra is the more superficial side of venus. It's is basically a prude version of gemini Not enough to represent the whole planet!!! Also the masculine feminine polarity make sense for the planets. Venus rules taurus Virgo rules mercury. Mercury needs virgo!!!! or it's literally useless with gemini being all scatter brained.
Honestly, using the traditional rulers does seem to work very good and synthesise simplicity, so I'm going to have to agree with you there, haha. IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Magellan Castle, Venus Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 02:30 AM
True, lol. And it's official, you have a stellium Mercurian Intellect.------------------ A killer 'lady', sinful as the perfect liar, but sweeter than the sweetest devil. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 11038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 08, 2013 02:32 AM
this pretty much sums it up.... Taurus
Virgo
Look up the asteroid Awesome and be done with it. hint (it's an inherent earth sign trait) (we can't help it, no matter what planet rules us) IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3895 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 08, 2013 02:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sailor Gemini: True, lol. And it's official, you have a stellium Mercurian Intellect.
Cool! IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted September 08, 2013 02:37 AM
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