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Topic: Do Quincunxs count?
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stargazer21
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posted October 02, 2013 11:24 AM
  
They're referred to as minor aspects but do they hold any weight? What about semi-sextIles?IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 02, 2013 11:31 AM
I can feel the effect of the quincunxes in my chart. I'm not sure about semi-sextiles. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 02, 2013 11:58 AM
I definitely feel my Moon-Saturn-quinkunx, yes. But it is the tightest aspect in my chart (well the Juno-Saturn-trine is a tad tighter even).IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 02, 2013 11:59 AM
I definitely feel my Moon-Saturn-quinkunx, yes. But it is the tightest aspect in my chart (well the Juno-Saturn-trine is a tad tighter even).IP: Logged |
geea
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posted October 02, 2013 12:04 PM
how does a mars-pluto quincunx manifest?------------------
http://youtu.be/jy6b8esmyp0 IP: Logged |
AriesLilith
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posted October 02, 2013 12:40 PM
Quincunx is basically 2 elements in incompatible signs that has nothing in common with each other. So we are able to feel them, synastry or natal chart wise. In natal it's like having 2 sides of yourself that are completely different, and in synastry is like one side of a person not getting the other side of the person.For example, if person A's Moon quincunx person B's Moon, then their emotional nature are very different from each other and might have a hard time getting each other emotionally.
Another example, if a person has in his natal chart Virgo AC and Aries Sun, then he might seem very different from what he really is inside. I have Aries stellium and Virgo AC, and how I appear to strangers (Virgo) is very different from how I am when I'm more comfortable (Aries). IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 02, 2013 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by geea:
how does a mars-pluto quincunx manifest?
http://depthastrology2.com/MarsPluto.htm#MarsquincunxPluto IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 02, 2013 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I definitely feel my Moon-Saturn-quinkunx, yes. But it is the tightest aspect in my chart (well the Juno-Saturn-trine is a tad tighter even).
What orb do you use for quincunx? some say 4 degree, some say 5 degree. I've also read that 7.5 degree orb is used for quincunx in medical astrology and quincunx is also considered as a major aspect in medical astrology. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 02, 2013 01:15 PM
2 degrees.But I like my orbs tight. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 02, 2013 01:15 PM
2 degrees.But I like my orbs tight. IP: Logged |
geea
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posted October 03, 2013 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
http://depthastrology2.com/MarsPluto.htm#MarsquincunxPluto
thanks,interesting read!  IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted October 03, 2013 01:47 AM
Magi astrology is what helped me understand quincunxes. Quincunxes count. It is a supportive aspect, like trines or sextiles, UNLESS Saturn is one of the planets. In such case, it acts disruptive like a squares or oppositions. This is valid for transits, natals, synastries, you name it. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted October 03, 2013 01:55 AM
Ya they definitely count!!!! Semi-sextiles too. "Minor" aspects aren't really minor so much as they are...nuanced. It's easy to grasp the idea of a square but to really understand any aspects takes about the same amount of experience or learning.IP: Logged |
geea
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posted October 03, 2013 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by Belage:
UNLESS Saturn is one of the planets. In such case, it acts disruptive like a squares or oppositions. This is valid for transits, natals, synastries, you name it.
oh!
leo planets quincunx saturn in cappy is bad ?
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Kerosene
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posted October 03, 2013 02:01 AM
[/b][/QUOTE]
http://depthastrology2.com/MarsPluto.htm#MarsquincunxPluto [/B][/QUOTE]I don't relate to that at all. I love how some astrologers give vague descriptions,
Give some practical examples. quote:
subconsciously disconnected with your animus
lmfao.. and why do I care about this... IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted October 03, 2013 02:12 AM
^Do u have Mars inconjunct Pluto...?IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted October 03, 2013 02:14 AM
yup!IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 03, 2013 02:17 AM
Why are major aspects called “major” ? because they have wider orbs?IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted October 03, 2013 02:22 AM
I've always wondered that too...
the other the I was looking up all these obscure minor aspects I was like..
It's just math, it's all math.Who decides what aspects are important and obscure.
Anyways aspects are the most interesting part of astrology for me because geometry is fun..  Obviously conjunction are big but I think every other aspect is fair game and should be analyzed more. The quincedile is my new favorite mainly because I like saying it out loud,
quin deh chee leh IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted October 03, 2013 02:26 AM
^Ouuuu 10+ points for the barracuda because now he's thinking...I could say a lot on that subject, but let me tell you that it's a learner's concept - all aspects are actually equivalent and there is no major or minor aspects just as all aspects are harmonizing and there is not good or bad aspect. When you learn this, you also have to learn to be patient with people who aren't on your level yet...they're just categories to help people learn.  But any ways Mars inconjunct Pluto...Aries and Scorpio too...I imagine it goes like this: You probably have very strong passions and both your Pluto and Mars can stimulate one another into going beyond what they normally would. But it's also fickle, you can burn hot and cold easily. It's hard to control. Your Mars is probably fussy and choosy because of this, and you do dig deeper than what Aries Mars would suggest. You Pluto might influence your Mars to choose one path and stick on it to the very end, but that's a general effect of Pluto aspecting Mars. An inconjunct is like two things influencing each other but remaining directly removed from one another, if that makes sense... EDIT! It's also a separating aspect, so these behaviours will feel natural to you. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted October 03, 2013 02:40 AM
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Kerosene: Anyways aspects are the most interesting part of astrology for me because geometry is fun..
A concept you might like/find interesting is thinking about how aspects have themes of their associated sign.  A conjunct is the Aries aspect because it doesn't separate the chart into any pieces; it keeps it as 1 part. The opposition is the Taurus aspect because it separates the chart into 2 parts...2 = Taurus... And so on! You'll find the major aspects are the aspects associated with sign Aries to Virgo barring Leo. Major aspects tend to deal on a more personal level because of this and tend to shape the personality as the first six signs are associated with interaction of the self, ex. Aries "I am" vs Libra "we are". Minor aspects associated with Libra through Pisces tend to influence how we outwardly interact with the world. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted October 03, 2013 02:57 AM
I had no idea...!!
I did know about the association of aspects with planetsSquares being martian
trines jovial
Sextile venusian!
etc! I do think people with like a lot of conjunctions have huge egos!
Which could somewhat be leoine in nature!
I was thinking about the quincuix and too, and how you mentioned them beings separate.
I think in this case because Mars and Pluto are domicile with inconjunct they are aware of each others presence being close in degrees.
They aren't really allies that work together but they are not enemies either.
Being domicile they are both happy and confident ruling over their kingdoms and in times of crisis they can both be a force to reckon with, but most of the time I think they dormant and peaceful.
Maybe if mars was in Taurus and pluto in libra they would more self conscious and erratic. Anyways most of the time i'm nice but if you attack me or my loved ones I will plot my revenge and destroy you both mentally and if possible physically.  Or maybe thats because my mars is in Scorpio duad. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted October 03, 2013 03:01 AM
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Squares being martian
trines jovial
Sextile venusian!
Oh, now that's interesting. Square is associated with Cancer energy, a weak spot for Mars. Same with trines, Gemini, and Jupiter...and sextiles, Virgo, and Venus... Hm, something to think about. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 03, 2013 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Oh, now that's interesting. Square is associated with Cancer energy, a weak spot for Mars. Same with trines, Gemini, and Jupiter...and sextiles, Virgo, and Venus...Hm, something to think about.
What about quincunx? Gemini/Pisces? two sides that can't get along with each other? IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted October 03, 2013 03:04 AM
Oh yeah
Oppostions are saturnian
inconjuncts are plutonic because they are suppose to be transformative. I'm not making this up , I've read it somewhere.. I don't know where.
I just know a lot of random things. IP: Logged |
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