posted October 03, 2013 08:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Well I didn't learn all of that, just that in every religion is based off 12 apostles and they are supposed to be the 12 Zodiac Signs.
Or something like that, I can't remember.

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I found this on it

All ancient faiths were based on the oldest science, astrology : the influence of the planets. The planets were the gods in Greece and Rome, Egypt and Babylon, India, Scandinavia, S. America …. Our current world faiths originated in the same ancient world. It should be no surprise to find they are also all based on astrology, all recognising One God.

Satan, the Devil, is easily recognised as a portrait of massive Saturn, the higher dimension of this spirit, beyond the personal astrology of the horoscope.

This recognition, based on the Kabbalah, gives us the rational, credible, scientific and multifaith understanding of God we need in modern times. It strongly supports the message of the Bible, especially the Gospels, the message of love and peace but avoids the literal simplifications of fundamentalism.

posted October 03, 2013 08:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
LOL Gandhi still indulged in earthy desires as a Venusian man.
He was not a saint and I don't think he would want to be seen that way.

Jesus was very extreme.

I think water, maybe scorpio/pisces, pluto/neptune.

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posted October 03, 2013 08:32 PM            

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LINDA GOODMAN'S STAR SIGNS - PHYSICAL IMMORTALITY* 445

But . . . on the puzzlement side, I kept wondering . . . if Jesus was the Son of God, then why wasn't there a Daughter of God? And I wondered why everyone was so happy about Easter, if it only meant that just one man could experience such sky-rocket magic, and none of the rest of us would ever have a chance to know such a miracle. Especially me.

But my puzzlement faded away as soon as I returned home from church and buried my nose in the hyacinths my mother filled the house with every Easter. There is no way to express this. You'll just have to press your own nose deeply into a hyacinth's blossoms . . . and inhale. Or have you already noticed yourself that something about this particular spring flower's fragrance makes your heart soar up to join your Spirit? It makes you know that Easter is truth for everyone, as your entire being is flooded with the mystery of this knowing. Not even logical, metaphysical, intellectual and personally tangible evidence of cell regeneration brings such certainty.

The "sense of smell" is surely the strongest of the other five. It leads you so swiftly into at least momentarily possessing the sixth sense. Rain on the grass . . . lilacs drenched with dew . . . the scent of spring in the air . . . the cold, clean smell of falling snow . . . damp earth . . . can float your astral into a higher dimension for fleeting moments. So, when your new commitment to physical immortality wavers briefly, go out and smell a hyacinth . . . or walk in the rain. Re-spiral yourself!

There are three kinds of immortals. Those who became so hundreds or thousands of years ago, and communicate it to a chosen few apostles in a subtle manner. Those who became so equally long ago, but who choose to pretend they are still pilgrims, so that they may empathize with others newly initiated to truth. And those who have just learned the secret, and are delighted with the evidence they can share with others. It's not always easy to make the distinction.

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An important event for modern astrologers is a conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter, which occurs every twenty years. Kepler and other eminent astrologers of the past believed that the Star of Bethlehem was a conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter in Pisces. Later authorities generally agree, but place the conjunction in Aries. Since 1842 the conjunctions of Saturn and Jupiter have invariably occurred in Earth signs, which accounts for the Industrial Revolution and for modern materialism and concentration on practical matters (relieved only by the spiritual influence of Neptune since 1846).

The Black Arts by Richard Cavendish

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I speculate both positions to be correct. After all, the two major symbols of Christianity are The Ram/The Lamb and The Fish/Fisher of Men corresponding to Aries and Pisces, the first and last signs of the zodiacal Wheel of Life. The Alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the end. The first and the last. Aries and Pisces.

Revelation 21:6
Then He said to me, "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the Spring of the Water of Life without cost.

[** Note Pisces is the last Water sign and Aries is the beginning of Spring. April showers...as they say. ]

Jesus is Coming
12"Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. 13"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." 14Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the Tree of Life, and may enter by the gates into the city.

Revelation 22:12-14

LOve & LIght ,
Stephanie
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Got the Wings of Heaven on my Shoes. I'm a dancin man and I just can't lose. You know it's all right. Its ok. I'll live to see another day. We can try to understand the New York Times' effect on man.

posted October 03, 2013 08:37 PM            

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Originally posted by HRH-FishAreFish:

I speculate both positions to be correct. After all, the two major symbols of Christianity are The Ram/The Lamb and The Fish/Fisher of Men corresponding to Aries and Pisces, the first and last signs of the zodiacal Wheel of Life. The Alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the end. The first and the last. Aries and Pisces.

[b]Revelation 21:6
Then He said to me, "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the Spring of the Water of Life without cost.

[** Note Pisces is the last Water sign and Aries is the beginning of Spring. April showers...as they say. ]

Jesus is Coming
12"Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. 13"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." 14Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the Tree of Life, and may enter by the gates into the city.

Revelation 22:12-14

LOve & LIght ,
Stephanie
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Got the Wings of Heaven on my Shoes. I'm a dancin man and I just can't lose. You know it's all right. Its ok. I'll live to see another day. We can try to understand the New York Times' effect on man.

Stayin' Alive ~ The Bee Gees [/B]

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posted October 03, 2013 08:39 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
I found this on it

All ancient faiths were based on the oldest science, astrology : the influence of the planets. The planets were the gods in Greece and Rome, Egypt and Babylon, India, Scandinavia, S. America …. Our current world faiths originated in the same ancient world. It should be no surprise to find they are also all based on astrology, all recognising One God.

Satan, the Devil, is easily recognised as a portrait of massive Saturn, the higher dimension of this spirit, beyond the personal astrology of the horoscope.

This recognition, based on the Kabbalah, gives us the rational, credible, scientific and multifaith understanding of God we need in modern times. It strongly supports the message of the Bible, especially the Gospels, the message of love and peace but avoids the literal simplifications of fundamentalism.

if you go on here theirs a bit on it ^
http://www.factsbehindfaith.com/Satan-astrology.html

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posted October 03, 2013 08:43 PM            

Alpha & Omega

posted October 03, 2013 08:47 PM            

Don't cry little lass, don't cry
he's still alive - he didn't die
he's writing songs for three blind mice
and the farmer's wife

did you ever hear such a tale in your life?

Step aside girl, let him pass
walkin' barefoot in the grass
and Hey! Hey! Hey! Isn't it groovy, like
Christmas Day?
He's still around in London town
with the farmer's wife and three blind mice

Play it backwards, listen twice, three blind mice
then thank a song of sixpence if you're bright enough to see
bright enough to see ...

and Paul

Oh Paul, dear Paul, the gentle one
(see how they run, see how they run?)
sing your Noel song still sweetly

But do take care now, won't you Luv?
when they shove up close to hear you
please take caution and beware
of those flash bulbs poppin' near you

for 'tis written on an ancient scroll
that the eyes are the windows of the soul

See how they run
after Paul, the gentle one?
the eyes, ah yes! the eyes
are the windows of the soul

-Venus Trines at Midnight

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPwLnGQzKEg

LADY MADONNA - SAINT PAUL MCCARTNEY

Lady Madonna, children at your FEET, (Pisces)

Wonder how you manage to make ends meet.

Who finds the money when you pay the rent,

Did you know that money was Heaven sent?



FRIDAY (Venus...oh-la-la!) night arrives without a suitcase, (no suitcase )
SUNDAY (Sun) morning creeping like a nun,
MONDAY'S CHILD (Moon) has learned to tie his BOOTLACE. (Pisces)
See how they run.



Lady Madonna, baby at your Breast,
 (Moon/Cancer)
Wonders how you manage to feed the rest.

Lady Madonna lying on the Bed, (sleepy Pisces)

Listen to the music playing in your Head.

 (Aries)

TUESDAY afternoon is never ending,
 (Mars energy)
WEDNESDAY morning papers didn't come,
 (Mercurial news)
THURSDAY (Jupiter) night your STOCKINGS (Pisces) needed mending.

See how they run.


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Sunday - Sun
Monday - Moon
Tuesday - Mars
Wednesday - Mercury
Thursday - Jupiter
Friday - Venus
Saturday - Saturn

This sequence of the planetary rulers of the days of the week follows the beams of seven-point star, or heptagram, also known as the Star of the Magi:

In fact, the sequence of the planetary rulers of the days of the week is a result of another, even more fundamental sequence - the sequence of the Planetary Hours.

This sequence is named the Chaldean Sequence and it is deeply rooted in the ancient philosophy. You might notice that in this sequence the planets are ordered by their relative speed as observed from the Earth, the Moon being the fastest and Saturn - the slowest. The easiest way to remember this sequence is to have the Star of the Magi at hand: this is the sequence in which the planets follow around the star.
http://www.lunarium.co.uk/articles/planetary-hours-and-days.jsp

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You probably wondering why Saturday was omitted from the song, Lady Madonna, by St. Paul McCartney, right? Well, there is a very good reason for this 0-mission, but we will get to that shortly. Here is what Paul had to say about the 0-mission when he was finally asked...

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The lyrics include each day of the week except Saturday. In a 1992 interview, McCartney, who only realised the omission many years later, half-jokingly suggested that, given the difficulties of the other six days, the woman in the song likely went out and had a good time that day.

Speaking later about the lyrics, Lennon said: "Maybe I helped him on some of the lyrics, but I'm not proud of them either way."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Madonna

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Saturday is ruled by Saturn, which (amongst other things) also rules work. So, unless she really, really loves her work, of course...what is the likelihood that this pretty Lady is out having a good time on a Saturday?

Zero!

Zilch!

Big g00se egg!

Zer0!

We all know (or should know) a mother's work is never done--however, a mother's work is also a Labor of Love.

So you're probably wondering...'Well, where is Saturday then?'...right?

Well, I was thinking the same thing, too!

Saturday is even missing from Gooberz Table of Contents...

******* NOTICE SATURDAY IS ALSO MISSING FROM GOOBERS T.able O.f C.ontents *******

Certainly, Saint Paul McCartney, a Gemini poet with Mercurial double-talking expertise, surely wrote more than one song about The Blessed Virgin Mother Mary...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1CbTop6Jx8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJME4HCD1kg&list=WLofWWaHTZ0IEtCPrssnnrQnU7XkSzyks9

LET IT BEE - SAINT PAUL MCCARTNEY

When I find myself in times of trouble
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom,
Let it be.
And in my hour of darkness
She is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom,
Let it be.

Let it be, let it be,
Let it be, let it be,
Whisper words of wisdom,
Let it be.

And when the broken hearted people
Living in a world agree
There will be an answer,
Let it be.
For though they may be parted
There is a chance they will see
There will be an answer,
Let it be.

Let it be, let it be,
Let it be, let it be,
Whisper words of wisdom,
Let it be.

Let it be, let it be,
Let it be, let it be,
Whisper words of wisdom,
Let it be.

And when the night is cloudy
There is still a Light that shines on me
Shine until tomorrow,
Let it be.
I wake up to the Sound of Music
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom,
Let it be.

Let it be, let it be,
Let it be, let it be,
Whisper words of wisdom,
Let it be.

Let it be, let it be,
Let it be, let it be,
Whisper words of wisdom,
Let it be.

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So how does all this Gemini double-talk get us any closer to figuring out where Saturday wandered off to?

Well, (as I shake off this bad case of jet-lag) it's all becoming so very clear to me now...

The other Saint Paul has been dutifuly and lovingly protecting Saturday for us all this time! (I'm sure the Capricorn record companies will BEE beyond elation at the re-discovery of Saturn's Saturday.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiMdkY_5Gfw

MOTHER AND CHILD REUNION - SAINT PAUL SIMON

No, I would not give you false hope
On this strange and mournful day
But the mother and child reunion
Is only a motion away
Oh, little darling of mine

I can’t for the life of me
Remember a SADDER DAY
I know they say LET IT BE
But it just don’t work out that way
And the course of a lifetime runs
Over and over again

No, I would not give you false hope
On this strange and mournful day
But the mother and child reunion
Is only a motion away
Oh, little darling of mine

I just can’t believe it’s so
Though it seems strange to say
I never been laid so low
In such a Mysterious way
And the course of a lifetime runs
Over and over again

But I would not give you false hope
On this strange and mournful day
But the mother and child reunion
Is only a motion away

posted October 03, 2013 10:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Well I didn't learn all of that, just that in every religion is based off 12 apostles and they are supposed to be the 12 Zodiac Signs.
Or something like that, I can't remember.

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ACT 1

1-The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,

2-Until the day in which he was taken up, after he through the Holy Spirit had given commandments unto the Apostles whom he had chosen:

3-To whom also he showed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

**Footnote**
THE-OPHILUS - Greek. "Loved of God."

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The following article about Linda Goodman was printed in the July 17th, 1970 edition of the Roman-News Tribune...
(By the way, I didn't accidently misspell goodbye--that is how it's actually spelled in the article.)

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Say Goodby to All L.A. Friends Before the End
by Lee Mueller

If you know anyone in Los Angeles, it might be a thoughtful gesture to drop him a goodby note. He is going away, you know.

Any day now. Flop. Just like that.

This prediction is not new of course. Seismologists have been saying it for years: An earthquake is going to rip California off the map and drown it in the Pacific. Now it comes on new authority. The Apostles--not necessarily all 12 of them--have predicted it and I certainly am not about to refute anything the Apostles say.

The Apostles, you may not know, are the Beatles--or were the Beatles, before they broke up. Anyway, astrologer Linda Goodman, author of the best-seller, "Sun Signs," claims the Beatles are/were the reincarnations of the disciples (John, Paul...Ringo?)and that it looks bad for Los Angeles.

"I'm convinced Paul McCartney and the Beatles are descendants of the Apostles and got where they are (were) to deliver a message." she said. Part of the message, unfortunately, for those of us who think Los Angeles deserves to live, are the lyrics to the Beatles song which read:
"There's a fog upon L.A., my friends have gone away..."

Linda Goodman is an articulate, level-headed young woman who calls her stars as she sees them. She does patients horoscopes for psychiatrists and doctors. She has written a volume of poetry, "Venus Trines at Midnight," that is selling well. She has nothing at all against Los Angeles. But she admits it's spooky.

"It blatantly predicts the earthquake," she said. "I'm surprised most people haven't noticed."

Linda Goodman offers this information in good humor, smiling, rattling ice cubes in her glass. She does not say she is kidding. For those citizens who might be offended by her proposed relationship between the Apostles and the English rock group, she begs to point out that the disciples "were not all angels. After all, Peter went around cutting off people's ears."

Astrology, she says, has its roots deep in religion as it does mathematics, philosophy, geology and, certainly, space.

Many astrologers, in fact, are convinced that Jesus Christ--like Hippocrates--spent his formative years with the Essenes, an ascetic Jewish sect in Palestine, studying astrology.

"Just listen to the message." she says. "It's there."

If this sort of message amuses you, it remains doubtful that Bell Telephone will be amused by Miss Goodman's prediction concerning extra sensory perception (ESP) in the next century. "We won't have telephones by the year 2000." she said. "We'll all be communicating by thought."

There are, she says, unseen electrical currents that pass between all of us, communicating. Distance is no factor. "This is what the kids are trying to tell us." she said. "We talk, touch, and make babies, but there's a veil between us. We don't communicate."

Time and education will solve this problem, she says, although it seems we're behind the more disciplined, astrology-minded Russians in this particular field.

"The Russians will be the first to send a thought into orbit," she predicted. It is my feeling, however, that with this sentence, Linda Goodman already has done it.

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posted October 04, 2013 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Why do people always think of Pisces when they think of Jesus? Pisces isn't the type that's gonna jump up there and lecture. That's more a Virgo thing than Pisces. Libra is a lot like Pisces so this is why I think Libra twelfth for Jesus. He has the humility of Pisces and willing to lecture like Virgo with the calm objectivity of Libra and the desire to do social works. That's Libran too. Pisces is more about accepting for what it is, taking things as they are.

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I'm late to the Jesus Party?!?!

I actually agree with much of what you said, SSS. While I do believe that Jesus must have Pisces in his chart, I do not believe that he definitely was a Pisces-Sun. Sag (or 9th House) is also connected to higher power & higher knowledge!

My most random guess would be...

JESUS:
*Sag ASC*
Virgo/Libra Sun - 12H
Pisces Moon - 9H
Aqua Mercury - 7H
Pisces Venus - 4H
Virgo Mars - 10H
Cap Jupiter - 4H

posted October 04, 2013 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
I'm late to the Jesus Party?!?!

I actually agree with much of what you said, SSS. While I do believe that Jesus must have Pisces in his chart, I do not believe that he definitely was a Pisces-Sun. Sag (or 9th House) is also connected to higher power & higher knowledge!

My most random guess would be...

JESUS:
*Sag ASC*
Virgo/Libra Sun - 12H
Pisces Moon - 9H
Aqua Mercury - 7H
Pisces Venus - 4H
Virgo Mars - 10H
Cap Jupiter - 4H

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Jesus was NOT like this. He had more charisma. I would go with Scorpio placements over Pisces, or Virgo and Sag because they will preach and lecture people. Scorpio has charisma.

I know Pisces sun and moons and none of them talk about Jesus or Christianity much.

The three Pisces suns I know are very devoted to their lives and focus on one aspect, excelling in that area. Two of them were 4.0 students, one a valedictorian, and since Pisces suns are generally kind people, taking an interest in others well being, they were both well liked by their teachers. They went on to college, got post grad degrees. They spend a lot of time at their jobs.

The other one was devoted to crafts and creating items with her sewing machine, selling them over the weekends. She was very good at this and it occupied most of her time.

Pisces suns tend to like talking on the phone. They like to stay busy on their particular projects. They tend to resent lectures from others and do not have time for this sort of thing. They don't like it, from what I have seen.

posted October 04, 2013 02:40 PM              

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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Wasn't he born on 25th december?

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I thought they settled this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIjBO26qjYM

posted October 04, 2013 02:50 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

I would hesitate to say he has a Pisces moon. OMG every Pisces moon I have ever known in my life is very live-and-let-live!

I would go with Scorpio placements over Pisces, or Virgo and Sag because they will preach and lecture people. Scorpio has charisma.

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Pisces = COMPASSION. And there was no spirit ever *MORE* compassionate than Jesus Christ!!

posted October 04, 2013 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Pisces = COMPASSION. And there was no spirit ever *MORE* compassionate than Jesus Christ!!

I do realize that Jesus was outspoken also. You're right. So that is why I placed His Moon in the 9th House! Aaand I gave him a Virgo Sun too!

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I just can't picture it. 12th house, yes. Pisces, not really, just based on what I have seen. Most of them are really into their own thing, not so much society. They don't really focus on societal issues. This doesn't preclude them from presenting their accomplishments to the public but then it's back to their own lives and worlds. In other words, Jesus is too social to be Pisces, on a broad scale. Pisces is more intimate with public interludes and this tends to bring them anxiety, from what I have witnessed.

posted October 04, 2013 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I just can't picture it. 12th house, yes. Pisces, not really, just based on what I have seen. Most of them are really into their own thing, not so much society. They don't really focus on societal issues. This doesn't preclude them from presenting their accomplishments to the public but then it's back to their own lives and worlds. In other words, Jesus is too social to be Pisces, on a broad scale. Pisces is more intimate with public interludes and this tends to bring them anxiety, from what I have witnessed.

In other words, when Pisces suns or moons must go before others and speak, they spend at least a week fretting over it and are happy when it's over. This doesn't sound like the Jesus we know and love.

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I'd consider doing a little switch-a-roo and give him a Sag Moon in the 12th House.

I stand by him having the Pisces Venus though!

posted October 04, 2013 03:44 PM              

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I just can't picture it. 12th house, yes. Pisces, not really, just based on what I have seen. Most of them are really into their own thing, not so much society. They don't really focus on societal issues. This doesn't preclude them from presenting their accomplishments to the public but then it's back to their own lives and worlds. In other words, Jesus is too social to be Pisces, on a broad scale. Pisces is more intimate with public interludes and this tends to bring them anxiety, from what I have witnessed.

In other words, when Pisces suns or moons must go before others and speak, they spend at least a week fretting over it and are happy when it's over. This doesn't sound like the Jesus we know and love.

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Just throwing this out there for the Pisces with Aqua Mercury and Leo AC (I have very little interest in Jesus's astrological placements)...

I have those placements, and I really enjoy leading groups or classes at work (social services). I also take my work home with me much more willingly than most. I love working in outreach programs, and do a little bit of it in my spare time, if I happen to come across someone who needs access to resources, etc.

So...yeah, no stake whatsoever in Jesus's chart, but some Pisces folk enjoy that sort of thing. Also count in my Virgo Moon and Capricorn Mars in 6th, as far as work and service goes.

posted October 04, 2013 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Just throwing this out there for the Pisces with Aqua Mercury and Leo AC (I have very little interest in Jesus's astrological placements)...

I have those placements, and I really enjoy leading groups or classes at work (social services). I also take my work home with me much more willingly than most. I love working in outreach programs, and do a little bit of it in my spare time, if I happen to come across someone who needs access to resources, etc.

So...yeah, no stake whatsoever in Jesus's chart, but some Pisces folk enjoy that sort of thing. Also count in my Virgo Moon and Capricorn Mars in 6th, as far as work and service goes.

I can be utterly selfish and self-absorbed in many other areas, but not when it comes to helping others who are down on their luck. But I do have to be mindful of toxic people. They don't get too close to me because I make myself scarce.
Jesus probably didn't have that issue, lol.

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posted October 04, 2013 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
I'd consider doing a little switch-a-roo and give him a Sag Moon in the 12th House.

I stand by him having the Pisces Venus though!

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posted October 04, 2013 04:27 PM            

NEPTUNE + PISCES = CHRIST