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Topic: Saturn square Pluto..
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Kerosene
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posted October 13, 2013 04:19 AM
  
I know those born 92 and 93 most probably has this aspect..
Does anyone have this aspect under 5 degrees?
Where is saturn and pluto placed? quote:
Those with Saturn conjunct, square or opposite Pluto often find that some form of intense frustration in the area/s where these planets are placed natally is strongly felt. A part of life is usually blocked and this could be due to a variety of reasons from fear, powerlessness, and being unable to move. The Saturn-Pluto individual will have what could be termed as a 'death cycle' and will be forced to start over again, following the aftermath of some personal tragedy..
http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.com/2012/12/saturn-pluto-aspects.html#.UlpU0mQfb4A This aspect seems really unpleasant but I'm glad I don't have to go through it alone I have this aspect 3 degrees, the S.O 2 degrees and my best friend 5 degrees.. My best friend and I have saturn in the 10th and pluto in the 6th, we use to get fired together, everywhere... for awhile we assumed it both of us, so we stopped trying to find jobs together lol...
Yeah, we always make enemies at work..
it's hard to keep jobs.. My S.O has saturn in the 3rd and pluto in the 12.. There is definitely some struggle with communicating with others especially strangers, even though mercury and sun are in the 3rd house too..
However mercury is retro in pisces, that probably does not help. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted October 13, 2013 04:31 AM
more about saturn and pluto.. http://astrofix.net/2011/05/16/saturnpluto-aspects/#.UlpZ4mQfb4A IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted October 13, 2013 04:31 AM
I think of pluto squares as power struggle. Saturn square pluto - power struggle with authority figures lol. Do you get into troubles with your bosses? I work with the younger people who were born around 92 - 93 and it seems that they silently rebel against the hierarchy in the workplace. That often makes things hard for them. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted October 13, 2013 05:15 AM
Yeah, mostly menial jobs.I do respect my superiors at this internship, they are calculative, ruthless, and slightly crazy.
Plus they can appreciate my many talents.. mainly exploit them but I'm not going to be a lackey forever... IP: Logged |
ShineYourLight
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posted October 13, 2013 05:59 AM
Yeah I have it! Saturn in Aquarius Square Pluto in Scorpio (4 degrees) This part makes a lot of sense to me! quote:
A part of life is usually blocked and this could be due to a variety of reasons from fear, powerlessness, and being unable to move. The Saturn-Pluto individual will have what could be termed as a 'death cycle' and will be forced to start over again, following the aftermath of some personal tragedy..
I'm really curious what is gonna happen when Transit Saturn is gonna conjunct our Natal Pluto's! should be really interesting! I haven't really had problems with bosses.. yet! lol but I definitely had some troubles with other people in authority! Saturn is in my 2nd house & Pluto in my 11th Saturn/Pluto also forms a T-square in my chart with my Sun/Mercury/Chiron.. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted October 13, 2013 06:04 AM
You may have issues with your finances?
2nd house is the bank account and 11th is the income. IP: Logged |
ShineYourLight
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posted October 13, 2013 06:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
You may have issues with your finances?
2nd house is the bank account and 11th is the income.
Well.. I don't have an income right now 'cause I don't have a job at the moment so that definitely is an issue! but I still live at home so for now it's not really a problem & I still have enough money to pay for things but I definitely hope I can find some work soon. I'm pretty careful with my money luckily..
I wouldn't want to end up with a huge debt!
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SilverFeather
Knowflake Posts: 1041
From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 13, 2013 06:32 AM
Saturn in 6th square Pluto in 3rd House.I mentally/intellectually clash with most authority figures in my day-to-day life and possibly bosses in the future. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted October 13, 2013 07:37 AM
I am interested in this aspect, K. How does it feel to you? I like to get behind the eyes of aspects.------------------
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BellaFenice
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Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 13, 2013 02:28 PM
I personally don't have saturn square pluto (I do have sun square pluto which is umm..interesting to say the least).My cousin has saturn square pluto and the theme he has faced the last couple of years has been having his accomplishments built up (Saturn) but consequently ruined in by some circumstance or influence (Pluto). His ambitions (10th Saturn) have often been challenged by health issues (6th Pluto). His health issues were really just a sign he needed to focus less on being successful and more on taking care of himself. Once he began to examine this issue, he not only improved his health but restructured his life goals and beliefs that have changed his life for the better. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted October 13, 2013 02:56 PM
Jeez. You guys could be my kids, or at least my nieces and nephews.  I have this aspect with Saturn/Cancer 11th and Pluto/Libra 3rd. I've always thought that it did the opposite for me...like it makes my willpower really stiff and unbending. I've read that about Pluto square Saturn before. I'll have to read through the descriptions a little bit more, as I just skimmed over what you posted. But I can definitely identify with the having to start over and regenerate everything numerous times. It often feels as though I've lived multiple lives in just this one life. Like when I look at my life, I have changed completely in so many ways, at so many different intervals. It's interesting and sometimes baffling to me at times. Maybe this will help explain that.
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Violets
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posted October 13, 2013 03:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 12muddy:
I think of pluto squares as power struggle. Saturn square pluto - power struggle with authority figures lol.
I can identify with that. It's calmed a bit as I've gotten older, but it does seem like there's always some sort of power struggle going on, even about trivial things. I just don't always choose to express it now. I feel like it makes me stubborn and unyielding. So I'm thankful for my Pisces/Virgo sun/moon in that sense. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted October 13, 2013 03:34 PM
Well I imagine with age this aspect is a lot easier to channelIP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted October 13, 2013 03:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
I know those born 92 and 93 most probably has this aspect..
I have this aspect and was born in '75. It's not an altogether unpleasant aspect. In fact, it's been said that this aspect is never seen in the chart of someone with a weak ego. (People confuse big ego with strong ego.) If anything, this aspect can provide any backbone not otherwise indicated in a chart. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted October 13, 2013 04:09 PM
'75 here as well.Yeah, I've been partly thankful, partly bothered by this aspect. As a Pisces, I think it offers up a stronger willpower for me, but then I have to know when I'm being unreasonable or things can really become unpleasant. The phrase "choose your battles" is one that I tend to take to heart now. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted October 13, 2013 04:15 PM
Oh yeah saturn is the father of karma....Maybe we did f'ed up things in out past life 0_o... IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted October 13, 2013 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Oh yeah saturn is the father of karma....Maybe we did f'ed up things in out past life 0_o...
Yeah, I have to wonder sometimes, when I look at my chart. And my life.  IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted October 13, 2013 04:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Oh yeah saturn is the father of karma....Maybe we did f'ed up things in out past life 0_o...
Maybe it's just me, but I see Saturn square Pluto as a beneficial aspect, even though malefics are involved.
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Kerosene
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posted October 13, 2013 04:43 PM
Oh that's true!!!!
They are both malefic!!!
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12thhouser
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posted October 13, 2013 04:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Oh that's true!!!!
They are both malefic!!!
Actually, Saturn is, but Pluto isn't (as far as I know). Mars is the lesser malefic, Saturn the greater. I think Pluto is innocent is this case. lol IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted October 13, 2013 05:06 PM
I think the outer planets are malefic, they just were not categorized because they were discovered later.Neptune is a lesser malefic imo.
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12thhouser
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posted October 13, 2013 05:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
I think the outer planets are malefic, they just were not categorized because they were discovered later.Neptune is a lesser malefic imo.
The outer planets aren't malefics, just Mars and Saturn, because the malefics (and benefics) involve one personal planet and one collective planet. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted October 13, 2013 06:08 PM
lol Yeah because in traditional astrology
Sun moon mercury venus mars jupiter saturn
are the only planets used.Sun mars and saturn are traditionally considered malefic planets..
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12thhouser
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posted October 13, 2013 06:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
lol Yeah because in traditional astrology
Sun moon mercury venus mars jupiter saturn
are the only planets used.Sun mars and saturn are traditionally considered malefic planets..
The Sun isn't a planet, let alone a malefic one. Where have you read that the outer planets are malefic? IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 6134
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posted October 13, 2013 06:18 PM
You should know the Sun and Moon are treated like planets in astrology.....
Sun mars and saturn are malefic in vedic astrology but western astrology has changed a lot.
I'm surprised we still use exalted debilitated concept..From what I've read..from many many astrologers the outer planets are more destructive than mars and saturn.
Mars is hardly that malefic unless it's in a hard aspect with uranus saturn and pluto. IP: Logged |
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