posted November 09, 2013 11:56 PM              

If you don't like the heat people... don't argue with my posts. .
Why do you people people do that, If were going to argue lets do this...

posted November 09, 2013 11:58 PM              

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
You can call me mean when I personally rip you into shreds.
I have done neither

If you don't like the heat people... than don't argue with my posts. .
Why do you people people do that, If were going to argue lets do this...

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posted November 09, 2013 11:59 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

Yes, that's why I disagree with a lot of what people post about Neptune, heh. I like Venus in Pisces and think that would be wonderful to have in my chart! What woman doesn't want an exalted Venus?

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A 12th houser with Venus in Pisces is a receipe for disaster.

posted November 09, 2013 11:59 PM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
^^^

I wouldnt say that I have always been attractive my whole life. I think what neptune on my ascendant has done for me in my early life has made me look very vulnerable and innocent to a degree where it had lead people to see me as an easy target of some sort. When I became older and learned to overcome the negative attributes of having neptune on the ascendant, that is when I was able to let the neptunian beauty shine through physically, though I have to admit, a lot of it does have to do with what other people project onto me rather than reality. It sounds stereotypical neptune but it really does seem like people just project fantasies or their inner ideals onto me because of my amorphous nature or neptunian aura, which can be positive or a negative thing when people realize that i'm not actually a character from final fantasy but a living person who also has to wipe their a$$ and all that.

I think the difference between venus on the ascendant and neptune on the ascendant is that venus tends to more often give the native a pretty and beautiful appearance, one that is traditionally beautiful and accepted more by conventional standards, whereas neptunes influence IF the native is able to handle the many negative influences of neptune being on the ascendant, tends to shine deeper and more ethereal, in a very hard to pinpoint sense; much like neptunes nature, there is just something about neptune rising people that is hard to pinpoint in general, and it is through their aura of mysteriousness or perceived sense of compassion and/or naivety that contributes to the "other worldly" beauty.

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Neptunians can become popular because of what they say and do, not so much what they look like (popularity due to looks is more Venusian.) With Neptune, there's a lot of kindness, humbleness and helpfulness. They really want others to like them so they perfect their personalities as much as possible, still, scandal can follow due to a Neptunian issue (already discussed) they have, even when they are the most helpful, kindest, people around, they have that tragic flaw and people will try to unravel them. Still, there's always some who will stand by them no matter what come what may. That's another dimension of Neptune, this phenomena of acceptance. Devoted followers and friends.

People identify themselves in the Neptunian. A lot of times the Neptunian becomes a funnel for everyone else's ideas, you are right about that.

posted November 10, 2013 12:07 AM              

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
A 12th houser with Venus in Pisces is a receipe for disaster.

Venus may rule beauty BUT Venusian beauty gets boring after a while IMO. Neptunian beauty doesn't, because you just can't figure out what makes them beautiful.

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This is how I feel.
Neptunians are brilliant artists.

A Venusian can draw what they see but neptunian can see beyond the physical
Most brilliant artistes I know are piscean /neptunian.
Though plenty of them are taureans/venusians.
But it's the neptunians that have a great vision.
Alexander McQueen is a good example. http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Alexander_McQueen

posted November 10, 2013 12:13 AM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
^^^

I wouldnt say that I have always been attractive my whole life. I think what neptune on my ascendant has done for me in my early life has made me look very vulnerable and innocent to a degree where it had lead people to see me as an easy target of some sort. When I became older and learned to overcome the negative attributes of having neptune on the ascendant, that is when I was able to let the neptunian beauty shine through physically, though I have to admit, a lot of it does have to do with what other people project onto me rather than reality. It sounds stereotypical neptune but it really does seem like people just project fantasies or their inner ideals onto me because of my amorphous nature or neptunian aura, which can be positive or a negative thing when people realize that i'm not actually a character from final fantasy but a living person who also has to wipe their a$$ and all that.

I think the difference between venus on the ascendant and neptune on the ascendant is that venus tends to more often give the native a pretty and beautiful appearance, one that is traditionally beautiful and accepted more by conventional standards, whereas neptunes influence IF the native is able to handle the many negative influences of neptune being on the ascendant, tends to shine deeper and more ethereal, in a very hard to pinpoint sense; much like neptunes nature, there is just something about neptune rising people that is hard to pinpoint in general, whereas venus rising people you know that they are beautiful and what it is exactly about them that is pretty, with neptune it is through their aura of mysteriousness or perceived sense of compassion and/or naivety that contributes to the "other worldly" beauty.

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posted November 10, 2013 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
A 12th houser with Venus in Pisces is a receipe for disaster.

Venus may rule beauty BUT Venusian beauty gets boring after a while IMO. Neptunian beauty doesn't, because you just can't figure out what makes them beautiful.

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posted November 10, 2013 12:27 AM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
^^^

I wouldnt say that I have always been attractive my whole life. I think what neptune on my ascendant has done for me in my early life has made me look very vulnerable and innocent to a degree where it had lead people to see me as an easy target of some sort. When I became older and learned to overcome the negative attributes of having neptune on the ascendant, that is when I was able to let the neptunian beauty shine through physically, though I have to admit, a lot of it does have to do with what other people project onto me rather than reality. It sounds stereotypical neptune but it really does seem like people just project fantasies or their inner ideals onto me because of my amorphous nature or neptunian aura, which can be positive or a negative thing when people realize that i'm not actually a character from final fantasy but a living person who also has to wipe their a$$ and all that.

I think the difference between venus on the ascendant and neptune on the ascendant is that venus tends to more often give the native a pretty and beautiful appearance, one that is traditionally beautiful and accepted more by conventional standards, whereas neptunes influence IF the native is able to handle the many negative influences of neptune being on the ascendant, tends to shine deeper and more ethereal, in a very hard to pinpoint sense; much like neptunes nature, there is just something about neptune rising people that is hard to pinpoint in general, whereas venus rising people you know that they are beautiful and what it is exactly about them that is pretty, with neptune it is through their aura of mysteriousness or perceived sense of compassion and/or naivety that contributes to the "other worldly" beauty.

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posted November 10, 2013 12:28 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

They can be beautiful because of how they treat others, so others see what they do and are fooled into thinking they are more attractive than they actually are, physically. My mom has Neptune on the ascendant and she is a very giving person, people like her because of that. She has Neptunian issues and has made enemies there but has friends because of how she treats others. Neptunians are good with people, generally, if it is well aspected.
My Aunt is a Pisces Neptunian with trines to natal Neptune from Jupiter, for one, and she is very successful and it's through her own personality and efforts. She is always very considerate of others, she makes an art form of it. She isn't a beauty queen (not horrible either, just kinda blah in looks) but with her Neptune trines she has gotten really far in life with education and her career. She hasn't experienced many Neptune scandals but has had problems with over sensitivity, big time. She has chronically severe allergy problems and has been treated for this.
Aspects can make a world of difference but there's a little bit of the Neptune dilemmas seeping through into her life, just not as much as with afflicted Neptune (like with my mother who has had worse health problems than this.) When people say bad things happen to good people, reminds me of Neptune.
This is why I think Neptune energy is one way (not good or bad), there's just too little or too much and with too much, things spiral out of control, there are more problems. That's when you see the worst Neptune and people think the energy is destructive and say Neptune is a malefic.

I've noticed Neptune is generally, not good for health.

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No, I didn't find that person beautiful based on how that person treats others. That person has Neptune in Capricorn conjunct ASC, great bone structure along with ethereal beauty.

Yes, Neptune brings lot of issues, but it's not related to beauty, is it?

posted November 10, 2013 12:33 AM              

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
IMO Venus give basic beauty, whereas Neptune is more of the compelling beauty,type.

Alexander McQueen is absolutely one of my top fav designers. I've always noticed many of my favorite artists whether it be painters,musicians, designers, etc, had prominent Neptune/pisces in their charts

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Good taste I'm in awe mcqueen too.
His work brings tears to my eyes because it's just so beautiful.. Women who get to wear his clothes are extremely lucky...

If you look around on astrotheme sun/neptune is so prevalent amongst artistes.
Notice that Venus not even in conjunction the sun or moon most of the time...

Everyone brings up Angelina but she's just one person.. and I like her more for her weird personality rather than her beauty.

In my Stellium I would replace Venus with Neptune in a heart beat.
So I can be a Neptunian work of art..

posted November 10, 2013 01:01 AM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Did you ever find a way to cultivate self-identity since that's one of the negative aspects of neptune on the ascendent.

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This has been a major theme in my life as my sense of identity has always been very confused. I also have my north node in the first house, and saturn there doesn't seem to have made it much easier.

However, I find astrology has really helped me in cultivating my identity by making me come to terms with my more negative traits and overcoming them.

A huge step in cultivating my identity has been realizing I don't NEED to be anything at all. I feel like most of my life I was subconsciously trying to fit into some box or label that didn't exist and did not reflect who I felt I am, and usually for the sake of others (uranus opposite sun). I've realized now that I don't have to fit in any box, I can just be what I am without worry about the external "identity", which I find to be related more to how others see me than my actual soul blueprint. I have an inner code of ethics or standards that I abide to, and this governs what I deem as my entity. I see my "self" as an ever evolving form, for which these inner ethical codes and soul desires are the unchanging algorithm for which the environment filters into to create the picture of which I call my "self"

posted November 10, 2013 01:13 AM              

Daphne Guinness.

Sun conjunct Neptune in Scorpio.
Extreme beauty?
“I’ve always had a surfeit of imagination,” Guinness says. “Whatever I do seems to have this unconventional twist. There has to be an element of chaos—I don’t like things that are too perfect.

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Daphne_Guinness

posted November 10, 2013 01:18 AM              

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Not like you're wearing any of them or myself so not sure how it's for basic ******* lol and I happen to looooooooove my Michael Kors purse!

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posted November 10, 2013 01:21 AM              

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Heh how are they kings if normal people like us can purchase them.

It's too uninteresting to spend 300 dollars a purse that can be recreated in a target collection.
There is a difference between quality.

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posted November 10, 2013 01:24 AM              

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Oh jeez Im just teasing you!

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