posted November 16, 2013 03:46 PM
Lilith
In general, especially at the start, the interpretations for both the Dark Moon Lilith (2nd, hypothetical moon of Earth) & Black Moon Lilith (mathematical point derived from the Earth & Moon), are almost identical. It seems many of the interpreting astrologers even get them confused! Then there is the matter of differentiating between the mean & true values for each & the fact that the ephermis data can be incomplete or erroneous, so all numbers should be checked & rechecked, for accuracy. This is pretty much a full time job ~ Lilith doesn't make this easy!! Upon further research, you may want to tease the specific details apart, but if you just want to have a general idea of what the crescent moon with the cross symbol on your astro.com chart indicates, here's what I've compiled, from several sources (email me, if interested in that info.) ~ as always, comments encouraged:In a woman's horoscope Lilith represents which part of life the woman plays a strong role in & her power.
In a man's chart, Lilith reveals what type of woman he 'fears' & the type of woman that can drive him over the edge, often to despair. She may also represent hidden power struggles & unresolved issues with women in his life.
In the charts of both sexes, Lilith shows us what we are most secretive about & represents sexual passion. Lilith magnifies revenge, rage, witches, psychics, the temptress & the shadow.
In Aries:
Lilith is straight-forward about her sexuality & may use it to feel powerful. Applied in a negative manner, there may be temper tantrums or bratty behavior. Lilith often causes an extreme strive for autonomy, leading to problems in partnerships. Perhaps you are restlessly changing possible life partners without committing yourself because there is always something wrong with them. With flirting you are courageous & successful, possibly tending to one night stands. You are fair, fighting for justice & peace.
In Taurus:
Lilith may hide money or possessions & there will be a great deal of secrecy regarding finances. This can also indicate miserliness or a refusal to share one's resources with others. Lilith gives extrodinary love for beauty & big emotional activity. You look for your security needs in a relationship, contacting others by flirting. Others can attract you with gifts & property & you probably achieve material security in partnerships, but you may become disturbed by the material dependance.
In Gemini:
When Lilith hides herself among the twins, she may exhibit a chameleon-like ability to be whoever she must be at the moment, hiding her true thoughts & feelings. If used improperly, the native may be considered "two-faced" or be a vicious gossip. Lilith here usuallly causes a strive for independence, especially in intelecitual areas ~ work in literary arts or public relations. You have a diplomatic & psychological intuition & can entertain very well. Tending to superficialness & objectivity is limited because you can become enticed and/or bound by ideas easily. You like to change partners without their input, & even your own knowledge. Emotions can be suppressed, unnoticed and/or converted to rationalities.
In Cancer:
Hidden emotions may come out in ways that affect the physical health. When expressed in ways that are healthy, Lilith's influence here makes the native a powerful parent or an activist for the protection of children. When negative, there may be chronic or psychomatic illness or the tendency toward martyrdom. You like to entertain many people in your home, where you can enjoy meals with them & have emotional and psychological discussions. In family matters you are inclined to not recognize things or situations correctly or you don't want to admit to situations and/or circumstances because you become enticed by unrealistic opinions very easily.
In Leo:
Lilith in Leo wants to be admired, but she'll never admit it. In creative expression, she will do things her own way & never feel obliged to explain herself. taken to extremes, she becomes the prima donna, demanding & unforgiving. You are easily enticed to go to parties where you can set yourself on stage. You want to participate in bets & speculation, even against your intuition. You know how to flirt & manipulate people for the general weel-being. You are probably well-known due to your charming character.
In Virgo:
Lilith in Virgo will often make the native very secretive or repressed in their sexual expression & there will be much attention to health-related details & hygene. When negative, can be very cold & aloof or extremely critical of the habits of others. Lilith blurrs objectivity & lets you express criticisms at the wrong times. You simply don't want to committ yourself & are orientationless regarding occupation & partnerships. Other people may become confused by you, because this position produces paradoxes in almost all areas of life. You tend between committment & autonomy urges, between social contact & retreat. Psychological & analytic abilities are almost unsurpassingly strong & your intuition is top notch. Unfortunately, you may not be conscious of your abilities or you may not want to admit to them.
In Libra:
Lilith in Libra may find herself concerned with the legalistic side of power. She is a defender of women here, supportive of laws that curtail abuse or sexual crimes. taken to extremes, she may be vindictive against those she perceives to be offenders & in a relationship may be clinging, jealous and/or manipulative. You like to flirt & manipulate your fellow beings with well-meaning intention. You break up, or let break, relationships because you vary between commitment & autonomy urges. You don't want to admit to being wrong about your conceptions concerning other people, or you don't want to see their true character. You may consider yourself completely different, contrary to others or completely misjudged. You have wisdom & intuition, as well as psychological & musical ability, but you may be aunaware of it. You desire emotional loyalty from your life partner & you want to be accepted emotionally. You probably have very high standards & requirements in partnerships.
In Scorpio:
May be a co-ruler of Scorpio with Pluto. Here, she is powerfully sexual, hypnotic, seductive & wise. When under a negative influence, she can become bitter, vengeful and/or obsessed. You may be enticed easily by sexuality & subordinate yourself to a more powerful partner. The danger exists that you don't recognize this power at all. You have to deal with setbacks, accidents & symbolic, as well as real, deaths ~ although there are usually opportunities to avoid danger before it appears. You may be addicted to danger. Possible death experience in childhood, leading to the perspective of death as an inevitable part of life & great psychological regenerative ability.
In Sagittarius:
Lilith may hide her emotions beneath a facade of humor or a mask of "niceness". She may keep her personal philosophies secret from others, keeping her own counsel. In the negative, this placement can indicate haughtiness, self-righteousnes & prejudice. Lilith confronts you with temptations of educational journies. You quickly jump at the opportunity to travel & learn. Well-meaning missionary & manipulative intent. Popular because you try to apply diplomacy & fairness. Other people could take advantage of you, as you spread your optimism & generosity thin, or you could tend to misjudge others.
In Capricorn:
Lilith will hardly ever share any emotions & these natives may seem unapproachable. Achievement & status will be the method employed to feed the hidden need for emotional contact. At its extremes, here is the anal retentive who must control everything. Lilith will hardly let you resist the temptations of fame, status & power. You can bring yourself much trouble, as you don't want to admit to the actual nature of these. You try to change others & can supress their inner values completely. You look for autonomy, but won't grant it to others.
In Aquarius:
Lilith will probably mask the hidden emotions with a series of ever-changing kaleidoscopic surface emotions & will seem fascinating & elusive to others. The native may be chimerical, fluttering like a fairy from one situation to the next. At her worst, Lilith is irresponsible, remote & refuses to listen to others. Lilith lets you misjudge your fiends easily. You strive for autonomy with manipulative methods & psychological tricks & reject tight interpersonal relationships ~ considering partnerships over friendships. Your fairness, tolerance, global thinking & humanity are noticable. Although highly intuitive, may tend to deny certain obvious situatons.
In Pisces:
Lilith is alreadt secretive & doubly (quadruply?) so in Pisces. This is usually th eperson who has emotional wounding buried so deeply that they don't even know it themselves. Lilith's placement here may instigate behaviors which even the native finds baffling & is often associated with passive-aggressive & unconscious behavioral patterns. Lilith can produce high-grade blurriness. Perhaps you repudiate yourself & don't recognize your internal needs or you don't want to allow them for yourself. Fantasy, artistic sense & inspiration are very strong here. In addition, this position shows the danger to succumb to illusions again & again. Possibly your whole life does not appear 'real' but 'virtual'. May engage in crimes on purpose.
** By making peace with & embracing our own darkest emotions, we can integrate ourselves. Lilith is one of the keys in astrology which can help us attain that goal.
In cardinal signs (Aries, Cancer, Capricorn & Libra):
We must start something, but life & other people will decide, in place of us, if our initiatives will be realized or not.
In mutable signs (Gemini, Pisces, Sagittarius & Virgo):
The ever-changing life, inside or outside us, is so strong that our inner anxiety is at a very deep degree.
In fixed signs (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio & Aquarius):
There will be blocks to our personal dynamic running.
In fire element (Aries, Leo, Sagittarius):
We are obliged to endure the changes in our lives, changes we can't control but we have to adapt to ourselves.
In earth element (Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn):
We will not have the life we dreamed of.
In air element (Gemini, Libra, Aquarius):
Our mind, our thoughts must change. Our contacts must be re-newed.
In water element (Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces):
The intuitive perceptions are so strong that clarivoyant, mediumistic, etc. abilities arise.
Having Lilith at the beginning of a sign ~
we have to start on a new road & search for ourselves.
Having Lilith at the end of a sign ~
we must get rid of our karmic problems before going any further & we have to get our strengths ready for the next sign. Here there is a turning point to take.
Lilith is most significant in angular houses (1, 4, 7 & 10) ~ the closer to the angular cusps, the more fascinating & flirtateous to the opposite sex the person may be.
Lilith in the Houses
Houses represent parts of life, where the action of life takes place. All situations and relationships can be filed in one of the 12 houses. The house of a person’s true Black Moon Lilith is the arena of that person’s life in which she shows up. The energy of the wild feminine and what cannot be controlled will be available to the chart holder in areas of life fitting with his or her true BML placement. These are also the parts of life in which the person will show up as a Lilith figure, bringing something of the status quo-busting wild energy with him or her. When we have experienced suppression and domination as Lilith figures, our house describes where, how, and why. When we can turn around our relationship with the wild within, our true BML house represents the stage on which we can teach others by example how to honor the feminine, the Earth, and the rest of life by coming out of their heads and being exactly who they are.
Lilith in the 1st House
With Lilith in the 1st house, a person will be a(n often unwitting) symbol of Lilith’s experiences and issues. Lilith will inform the body and personality in very direct ways. Often, we gain awareness of planets in the first house by others’ reactions to us. In the case of Lilith, this can be what seems a constant stream of rejection for just being who we are, abuse as an attempt to control the native, some form of beating into submission, and a sense of not fitting in anywhere with any group of people. Though this is a general theme of Lilith, her placement in this house makes that theme much more personal and part of an individual’s daily life than it would be in any other house. People with Lilith here need to learn to stand up for the self and believe in their rights to be autonomous, indepedent, and self-interested. Others will begin to respect this if they accept themselves as Lilith and love themselves for it.
Lilith in the 2nd House
With Lilith in the 2nd house, the natural inclination to gather skills, develop consistency and stability to ensure survival, and live in ways that reflect one’s positive feelings of self-worth are wrapped up in Lilith’s issues, including rejection for one’s natural expression of what is important and being nothing more than who one is. In general, allowing betrayal from others to condition us to betray ourselves is a maladaptation to life (i.e., “It’s clear they don’t accept me, so why should I accept myself?”). Yet in the house of self-worth, the rejection of one’s value system by, and the withholding of approval from others of what one finds important can lead to terrible and destructive patterns of self-abuse that can, in fact, threaten survival. With Lilith in this house, it’s critical that a person learn to take back the power from others regarding the judging of what he or she is worth. This is done through self-acceptance and compassion for self and other.
Lilith in the 3rd House
With Lilith in the 3rd house, our sense of curiosity about the world and capacity for the sense of wonder at what we find all around us, or might find, is tied up in Lilith’s issues. With this placement here, if we’re hiding our Lilith, there can be a sense of jadedness that the world does not have amazing things to offer us in varied splendor, and perhaps that it only offers the harsh judgment or abuse of others. The curious, open, and wonder-infused 3rd house nature of a person is what others have reacted against and used to punish the person with Lilith here. These people need to allow others their discomfort while the natives explore the world around them and ask and learn what they need to ask and learn.
Lilith in the 4th House
With Lilith in the 4th house, the family and heritage we come from centered on some or all of Lilith’s themes in one way or another. It could be that a particular family member ends up representing Lilith for the entire family, or that the family as a group experiences Lilith in a direct way. Or it could be that many members live Lilith stories from one side or the other - shunning or suppression or wildness and punishment for it. Now, this might sound like many people’s families, but there’s an edge with Lilith: the stakes of either forceful authentic self-expression in the family or at home (or leaving it behind to create a new life elsewhere to maintain wholeness), or those of suppressing the expression of self and other, are high. In other words, there is a great investment in such families either of trying to be Lilith or trying to suppress her, or both, possibly resulting in generations of what may seem on the outside of it to be a war between the sexes or other sort of power struggle between one faction and another (old and young, foreign and domestic, etc.). People with this placement need to accept these realities and learn to manage their own emotional landscapes with consciousness, compassion, and intention.
Lilith in the 5th House
Those of us with Lilith in the 5th need to create and express in authentic and unabashed ways. The connectedness that Lilith retains (or seeks, if we’re unaware of or hiding her) is in unfettered expression of her wild nature. Which she would say, of course, is simply her nature. Everything that contributes to or might result in creative expression can be avoided for fear of experiencing pain. A person with Lilith in this house might have been shamed in youth because of how he or she played. Before such a child’s behavior is edited into conformity, his or her natural expression of creativity will be colored by Lilith’s themes. The games of such children may involve one or more of Lilith’s heavy themes, any of which will be difficult for most parents to understand as natural expressions from their children, let alone accept: betrayal, abandonment, rejection, or sexual power games including rape. And they’ll play on either side of these issues – receiving or giving, as victim or persecutor.
Lilith in the 6th House
With Lilith in the 6th house, a person’s natural sense of duty and how he or she goes about getting things done is what is judged by others as potentially dangerous. People who might be in a position to mentor or train the person as an apprentice may sense something unruly and threatening about him or her and not be willing to take the person on as a student. It also indicates that this person’s natural mentors are connected with Lilith; understand and express their own version of Lilith’s energy. Finding such people will be difficult if Lilith is hiding in the person, and if she is not, finding them will involve first crossing many potential teachers off the list who reject the individual’s forthright expression of his or her reality.
Lilith in the 7th House
With Lilith in the 7th, we can look for Lilith in other people so that we don’t have to express her (the 7th holds energies we’re not necessarily sure how to relate to in ourselves and so we seek others to embody them). Whatever is in the 7th house, we need to learn to run the energy for ourselves. When we keep others around us to do it for us, we make the statement that we’re not whole. With Lilith here a person needs to take responsibility for being Lilith, and take care not to keep a door open for others’ understandings of and reactions to Lilith to come in.
Lilith in the 8th House
Lilith in the 8th house means that the instinctive, irrational, and primal side of a person is most comfortable in arenas of life where trust and intimacy are of paramount importance – this is her natural home in the person’s psyche and, therefore, outer life. This includes sexuality shared with other people, but also any relationships that require absolute honesty and have something to do with power, hence the traditional assignation to this house of “sex, death, and other people’s money.”
Lilith in the 9th House
With Lilith in the 9th house, this relationship with living a life based in having a guiding principle is what has been judged by others, and for what a person has received censure and punishment. All of the arenas of life described by the 9th house involve a sense of acting on belief and hope, understanding that such action is a risk. This risk is that the beliefs might be misguided or based in inappropriate assumptions. So, then, those with this placement may avoid risking living according to his or her beliefs to avoid negative reactions from others for bringing, or being, Lilith.
Lilith in the 10th House
With Lilith in the 10th house, a person can become a symbol of Lilith’s irrational instinct and primal wisdom to other people. His or her public self carries the energy of Lilith, and others will want to apply the prevailing labels for Lilith to this person, no matter how he or she behaves. If, after enough of this sort of treatment, Lilith in the person is hiding, developing a healthy and mature public role will be suppressed by this person. This is the house of being out in the world and of participating in the economy, leading the person with this placement to experience difficulty at work and just being out in public, for having this label applied.
Lilith in the 11th House
With Lilith in the 11th house, our pre-rational, instinctive, and wild self is most evident in the kind of future we envision, how we plan for it, and those we ally with to assist us in creating it. This can lead us to experiences of finding ourselves labeled as Lilith in every group we join, but this is an unconscious manifestation of Lilith’s placement here. We may have experienced being rejected from many groups for expressing our views, and we may have been feared as dangerous influences by organized others we attempt to befriend or with whom we attempt to become involved.
Lilith in the 12th House
With Lilith in the 12th house, a person will experience being Lilith in all contexts related to the way he or she connects with other and greater realms. To the degree that someone with this placement has internalized others’ fears about the wild as a negative statement of his or her worth and lovability, 12th house activities will be limited, avoided or denied. With Lilith here, entering into the meditative, creative or spiritual sides of this house means in some way being Lilith. Most of us choose not to experience the collective’s negativity about Lilith and will therefore avoid being her at almost all costs. Yet she is real, a part of each of us, there are times when she is activated.
Anyone feels any of this??
Lindaland
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