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hannaramaa
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posted December 08, 2013 02:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Haha I'm doing the same Kero!! Haha omg we'd be such a pair right now.

We're like the two friends that surround the engaged one and just scream in her ear! LOL!


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posted December 08, 2013 02:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulation <3!

Very cute couple

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posted December 08, 2013 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Blackbird, congratulations from me to you, too.
I hope you will be very happy together. You both deserve it - and though I don`t know you very well, I think you know how lucky you are (I hope that does not sound too negative), for Hera is an extraordinarily amazing person.


Oh and yes, you look totally cute together.

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posted December 08, 2013 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blackbird:
Our angles are pretty close, conjunct I think.

Her Saturn and Pluto are conjunct my big stellium, and her Mars is opposite my big stellium. *gulp*

Her Venus is trine my Mars and Venus.



Congrats, Blackbird! SAT-PLUTO get a pretty bad rap. Since your exact VENUS-MARS is in the 8H, do any of her significators hit them?

I'm currently investigating the difference between sexual / romantic chemistry in core dynamics versus 'secondary' which tends to result from other needs and wants. I suspect the 'happiest' couples are the ones who have both in their baseline.

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posted December 08, 2013 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Congrats, Blackbird! SAT-PLUTO gets a pretty bad wrap; what houses do they rule? Along with MARS? ... And your VENUS and MARS?

Houses! Houses! Tell me houses!


Indigo, its better for you to let it go. Hera already told me that when I exposed my opinion. While my opinion is the same as yours, its better to leave them alone and face their own reality. Until then... I wish them all the best.

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posted December 08, 2013 03:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg that's so exciting, congratulations!!!!

You guys make a great looking couple, wishing you lots and lots of happiness!

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posted December 08, 2013 03:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people live Astrology instead of living LIFE.

As a Libra Ascendant, I think it's important to balance this.

There's things in life that I'm certain Astrology can predict. It's been amazing to me, truly. The issue comes into play that I have yet to see ANYONE who can predict every little event of a person's life and the complexities of such.
There's so many different charts to use for a single person, then as a couple. Then you throw in so many charts for each person that they will encounter in their life. The transits over each of those kinds of charts, of each person, of the couple, of other people and the synastries of those people to others. Put that web together and think about it. Then add asteroids = MIND BLOWN.(since some want to live and breathe Astrology)


*** It would be fine to rely 100% on synastry/Composite charts if they were to be locked in a box together, but they won't be. They will be interacting, with other people, as individuals and as a couple where circumstances, situations, and transits will all be having an effect. ***
How many couples have had less than perfect synastries or composites, yet successful relationships? I bet that I can find some!

That's life, and for me, that's why I love it. Sometimes it's hell for it to be so unpredictable, yet, in the end, I'm thankful that it's full of so many surprises. <3

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posted December 08, 2013 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep you should definitely go with what you feel, not change anything based on charts. The charts can help you figure out what problems are, not as an excuse. I firmly believe with love, all things are possible and that is what you should believe first, above all else.

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posted December 08, 2013 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Some people live Astrology instead of living LIFE.

As a Libra Ascendant, I think it's important to balance this.

There's things in life that I'm certain Astrology can predict. It's been amazing to me, truly. The issue comes into play that I have yet to see ANYONE who can predict every little event of a person's life and the complexities of such.
There's so many different charts to use for a single person, then as a couple. Then you throw in so many charts for each person that they will encounter in their life. The transits over each of those kinds of charts, of each person, of the couple, of other people and the synastries of those people to others. Put that web together and think about it. Then add asteroids = MIND BLOWN.(since some want to live and breathe Astrology)


*** It would be fine to rely 100% on synastry/Composite charts if they were to be locked in a box together, but they won't be. They will be interacting, with other people, as individuals and as a couple where circumstances, situations, and transits will all be having an effect. ***
How many couples have had less than perfect synastries or composites, yet successful relationships? I bet that I can find some!

That's life, and for me, that's why I love it. Sometimes it's hell for it to be so unpredictable, yet, in the end, I'm thankful that it's full of so many surprises. <3


This is the sweetest post.

Go you! You're awesome!!

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posted December 08, 2013 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Indigo, its better for you to let it go. Hera already told me that when I exposed my opinion. While my opinion is the same as yours, its better to leave them alone and face their own reality. Until then... I wish them all the best.

I hope it works. I really, really do. I'm also becoming convinced that marrying right after your first Saturn Return is a bad, BAD idea. It's like you're driven by something that isn't quite rational. Hard to describe.

Anyone else have such experiences?

Conversely, a bunch of people I know chose to have their first child following their first Saturn Return. Hard to say on that one, but it tends to fare a bit better. Too many confounding variables, though. Western society, for example, and the age of parenthood increasing. (Though, I honestly don't think that's a bad thing.)

But, hey. Maybe Hera and Blackbird have a thing to do. So, they'll do it, and then it'll be done, and if the marriage becomes an inconvenient byproduct, they'll deal with it then.

Karma's kind of a mess like that. We do the best we can.

So, like you, I wish them the best. Genuinely.

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posted December 08, 2013 04:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
This is the sweetest post.

Go you! You're awesome!!


Thanks!
I pull out a good one from time to time. LOL Enjoy it while you can!

I mean... hopes and dreams about tomorrow. That's really what it comes down to and if we can't do that. We probably wouldn't want to wake up tomorrow.

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posted December 08, 2013 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yep you should definitely go with what you feel, not change anything based on charts. The charts can help you figure out what problems are, not as an excuse. I firmly believe with love, all things are possible and that is what you should believe first, above all else.

Aww. Like Linda. Yeah, I try and remember that, too. I've yet to ever make a pronouncement that two people SHOULD NOT be together. Honestly, SOMETHING is drawing you together. There's SOMETHING you have to do.

But marriage ...

Man. Lest you've been there, you just don't KNOW. You know? My guess is that something will happen quickly, because they're getting married quickly. It's like the domino setup. You just want to make sure your house is VERY clean when they fall.

So, all the best, and I look forward to seeing what it is these two unique souls are bound to do. Both being astrologers, I can only hope it's linked to metaphysics, and the raising of human consciousness. Like a lower level Twinflame relationship. I've got one of those happening right now because my own Twinflame is on his journey, and I'm on mine. And we're cool with that - for now. Some things you just know.

But it's kind of a big thing, given she's a popular forum mod. My guess is the AQUARIUS JUNO in the (9H, right?) has something to do with THIS VERY EVENT. The whole, 'ZOMG YOU DID WHAT?' and 'WTFBBQ CONGRATULATIONS!' song and dance. Frankly, sometimes, we overlook the obvious because we're focussed upon a distant point.

Who knows? It's all fascinating.

And I'm a fan of love in its many forms. If they've got it right now - then good on them. I'm all for happiness. Make big sweeping plans. Laugh if they work out accordingly. Laugh if they blow up in your faces.

Just ... y'know. Live.

... Says the MOON-URANUS.

I'm convinced ALL the big, huge mistakes I made were FOR something else coming to pass. So, in hindsight, I CAN'T say, 'man, I wish I'd done X instead of Y,' even if I'm still rueing those days, or struggling to make things work, or suffering the consequences of those hasty moves.

Because THE THING THAT MUST BE DONE would NOT be done. Trust in 'the plan', I say; the one you know in your gut; the one the Universe clues you into at times. Act crazily and rashly - but KNOW you're doing it for some purpose.

And ... roll tape.

Of course, this is all purely theoretical. But I've seen it to be pretty surprisingly spot-on thus far.

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posted December 08, 2013 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really think it's wrong to judge them and try to be all negative about their relationship. Everyone with love in their hearts would wish them the best instead of trying to depress them. What kind of response is that? No chart is perfect btw. Even really good synastry charts have some bad angles. You cannot find perfection in life. You must learn to accept.

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posted December 08, 2013 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, I think people are showing their care by expressing concern. We're all coming to this with opinions because it's unconventional and earmarked for either failure or success based upon our OWN experiences. It's ALL very subjective.

Don't knock someone for having a schema different from your own. Revel in the uniqueness. Can't we all just, I dunno, get along?

CRIPES. I AM a Libra Sun! Oh, well.

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posted December 08, 2013 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have the chart when you first started talking? That would be interesting too. Congrats

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posted December 08, 2013 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it's when they first started talking, I'm sure we could dig it up in Lindaland somewhere, since they started here I think!

We'll get all inspector gadget on them. Haha

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posted December 08, 2013 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH! Duh. I'm getting my 'we're getting married!' couples confused.

Do you guys want kids? Because my sense here is that the baby is READY. You guys are probably just 'paving the way' quickly - you know? Granted, we won't know anything until you start trying - IF you start trying. But my guess is you'll become pregnant VERY quickly.

These hasty things tend to occur because a soul is waiting to be born. In my experience, that is.

So, there's that.

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Kerosene
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posted December 08, 2013 05:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think silly when people let charts make their decisions

The fact that they are so confident and sure of this marriage is good, those who are scared and unsure will dwell over synastry and look for excuses. Besides life is so short and unpredictable go ahead and take some risks.

I'm sure they have studied their chart and are aware of potential red flags, hera is not a noob lol.

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posted December 08, 2013 05:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IndigoDirae

I just wanted to say thank your for you support and to explain your concerns. We see now that those concerns come from a place of love.


Myself, I'm older than the average LL user, but some are older than I. I've been married, had other relationships. I've experienced a lot of ups and downs in life from loss of love, jobs, money, etc. Also plenty of high moments.

Some people are very bitter after a divorce and will openly tell others, "Don't do it!". I've been married once and even though it didn't work out and we've never spoken since. I would do it again and I will tell people that if that's what they want, go for it. By all means, just live and experience. If it doesn't work out, you still have your life. You'll lick your wounds and move forward. (we all hope)
I don't regret it at all. I took what I could from it, learned and hopefully I can apply the lessons from my personal mistakes to the next marriage, if it happens.

I guess it depends on outlook. If a person is prepared that something may NOT work out. It would be worse for me to just not explore that possibility of lifelong love. The feeling of passing it up for something that I see on a screen or a piece of paper... that would haunt me forever. It really would.

Anyway... that's just my Gem moon rambling on forever.
All is well. I'm glad everyone is on the same page and happy! <3

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posted December 08, 2013 05:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations! Awesome news! Much joy wished

Also, I can very much relate to this picture too: \/


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Haha I'm doing the same Kero!! Haha omg we'd be such a pair right now.

We're like the two friends that surround the engaged one and just scream in her ear! LOL!



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posted December 08, 2013 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I think silly when people let charts make their decisions

The fact that they are so confident and sure of this marriage is good, those who are scared and unsure will dwell over synastry and look for excuses. Besides life is so short and unpredictable go ahead and take some risks.

I'm sure they have studied their chart and are aware of potential red flags, hera is not a noob lol.


I totally agree with you, Kero. You just know who you like or love, don't need a chart to tell you who it is.

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posted December 08, 2013 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right Kero. The excuses come flying out when people are scared.

His Saturn squares my Mars.

Blah blah. Everything can be made to work. Where is that quote. . . *rumages*

quote:
There is no manner of astrological interaction between two people that is so inherently sweet that enough selfishness, confusion about sex, or immaturity cannot turn it sour.

There is no manner of astrological interaction between two people that is so inherently bitter that enough patience, devotion, and humility can not only make it last, but make it something precious to both people.



http://www.forrestastrology.com/resources/articles/relationships/38-love-handles-practical-synastry-in-action

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posted December 08, 2013 05:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not all of that was directed at YOU IndigoDirae. LOL

Just wanted to tell you.
I'm Gem Moon... I just start talking and I never stop. Hahahaha

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posted December 08, 2013 05:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but Indigo I know what you mean, because I'm the same way.
I take these things very slow and casually, I'm still on my own journey too and if my s.o proposed to me tomorrow I'd probably freak out. Uggh I can't even think about it.
You know marriage can work if two are willing to work together and be honest. There are plenty of successful arranged marriages where couples don't even know each other well enough... Observing my parents it's not really all about romance but partnership, find my parents to be great partners not lovers.. I'm sure hera and BB have determined they would be perfect partners and companions too

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posted December 08, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is so Libra sounding...Libras tend to be cautious.

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