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Hera
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posted December 10, 2013 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The chemistry was present from the start, or even before the meeting lol. We don't have much Uranus action, thank goodness for that. I've come to loathe Uranus squares and oppositions. It never lasted for me. So we don't have too many indicators of online or long distance relationship, other than Uranus in the 10H of comp and FMC and that very wide Venus-Uranus sq in the FMC.

It feels like we've been together since forever and we are very similar in many ways, because we have the same house cusps and even some rulers in signs and houses because we're the same age. I am also thankful for our open and very good communication. It is essential.

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posted December 10, 2013 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by birdy:
Do you have the chart when you first started talking? That would be interesting too. Congrats

Actually I do lol. From what I remember, the first time I ever addressed to BB, Venus was exactly on DC. I will look the chart up later and post it.

The thread is in H&H. I think by now I know everyone's lines in it by heart. I've reread it a few times with a stupid grin on my face lol. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum32/HTML/000308.html

I jokingly asked him to marry me since then.

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posted December 10, 2013 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I think the notion of a long engagement when you're (I think, long distance, right?) makes a lot of sense. That always steps everything up - when you're serious about it.


Yes, we intend to have a long engagement. The wedding will probably happen while we're both having transiting Jupiter through our natal 7H's as well as the composite 7H and making nice aspects to our planets. I'm maybe thinking Jup at 27-28 Leo conj both our Vertexes and Grand trining and craddling a few of our planets. That would be nice. But of course it all depends on finding a way to be physically together so it will take a while.

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posted December 10, 2013 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MetalAphrodite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wanted to say congrats to you two .

I've been married before,for six years. It was horrible for me that time around, but honestly, I am hopeful for a strong relationship and to be married again.

Love the beautiful pics and can't wait to see more .

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Lotis White
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posted December 10, 2013 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hope you don't mind me posting this. If it's too much I'll take it down. I got it from another thread. Anywat, I looked for Hera's Sun sign in BB's chart using the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, and came up with some interesting things.

Hera is an Aries.


Starting with the 5th... BB has Gemini on the 5th house cusp.

So the secondary 5th house is the 3rd house (Gemini traditionally rules the 3rd house). BB's 3rd house is has Aries on the cusp.

The 7th house... BB has Cancer on the 7th house cusp. The secondary 7th house is 4th house (Cancer traditionally rules the 4th house).

BB has Taurus on the 4th house cusp ruled by Venus in Virgo conjunct Mars. Mars rules Aries, and a 7th house, or secondary 7th house, ruler conjunct Mars would indicate pulling in a Martian partner.

BB has Mars in the 8th house. And Venus conjunct Mars may indicate a liking for a Mars/Aries type female.

If I remember correctly Hera is a Sag Moon. BB has the 5th and 8th house ruler in his chart, Mercury in Libra, in the 9th house (traditionally associated with Sagittarius) and this Mercury is sextile her Moon.

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posted December 10, 2013 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like your analysis Lotis but I take things differently and plainly simple:

BB is a Cancer DSC. Moon is in 5th house in Gemini. The ruler Mercury is in 9th house ( his fiance/future wife MUST be a foreign person which Hera IS). His 5th NN house ruler is also Mercury in 9th house. The women he dates also must be foreigners. His Venus is in Virgo in 8th house. Hera is I'm not mistaken is a Capricorn ASC ( she has Earth influence what his Venus prefers). Ruler of his Venus is again Mercury in 9th. Again foreign emphasis. Mercury is in Libra the opposite sign of Hera's Sun. He automatically finds himself drawn to people who are opposite to him in the way of thinking and being.
Normally Aries/Scorpio doesn't work and I didnt see the composite to be able to say otherwise but judging from HIS natal chart, he is prone to AT LEAST have a romance with a foreign person. If he marries one, great.

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posted December 10, 2013 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I like your analysis Lotis but I take things differently and plainly simple:

BB is a Cancer DSC. Moon is in 5th house in Gemini. The ruler Mercury is in 9th house ( his fiance/future wife MUST be a foreign person which Hera IS). His 5th NN house ruler is also Mercury in 9th house. The women he dates also must be foreigners. His Venus is in Virgo in 8th house. Hera is I'm not mistaken is a Capricorn ASC ( she has Earth influence what his Venus prefers). Ruler of his Venus is again Mercury in 9th. Again foreign emphasis. Mercury is in Libra the opposite sign of Hera's Sun. He automatically finds himself drawn to people who are opposite to him in the way of thinking and being.
Normally Aries/Scorpio doesn't work and I didnt see the composite to be able to say otherwise but judging from HIS natal chart, he is prone to AT LEAST have a romance with a foreign person. If he marries one, great.


Yeah,

I think there's two different ways of looking at symbolism like this.

We can look at it as describing the personality of our partner (His Mercury, ruler of 5th/8th house, and Venus, in the 9th house matching to her Sagittarius Moon).

Or we can look at it as describing the situation of our partner (Falling for a women from a distant location, or for a well educated women, perhaps with strong opinions).

Often the partner will match our natal relationship symbolism in both ways.

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posted December 10, 2013 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Yeah,

I think there's two different ways of looking at symbolism like this.

We can look at it as describing the personality of our partner (His Mercury, ruler of 5th/8th house, and Venus, in the 9th house matching to her Sagittarius Moon).

Or we can look at it as describing the situation of our partner (Falling for a women from a distant location, or for a well educated women, perhaps with strong opinions).

Often the partner will match our natal relationship symbolism in both ways.


His Moon in Gemini should be another indicator of what he likes in a woman but He as a Scorpio/Capricorn ASC would never make a great relationship with Air Signs.

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posted December 10, 2013 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
His Moon in Gemini should be another indicator of what he likes in a woman but He as a Scorpio/Capricorn ASC would never make a great relationship with Air Signs.

Also,

I think Venus conjunct Mars would have a martian effect in terms of the influence to Venus itself... This would indicate a love are women who are energetic and fiery.

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posted December 10, 2013 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
Thank you, I'm so cappy, Bluejay and Ceri!

Bluejay whoa that's amazing!! Are you psychic? Dec 6th hmm.. that's actually when I flew back home. Yeah, we've been close for a while but only met in person 2 weeks ago. And got engaged lol.


No not psychic, but very in tune to energy. I have been learning about horary charts and noticed that you hadn't been around lately. Someone also asked where Blackbird had been, and I just all the sudden thought you had found your Zeus! I almost wanted to ask right then if I was right, but I thought I'd come across as a weirdo. . The feeling was quite intense, and I am learning to trust it instead of questioning it. I could literally feel the love!!! Good luck to you both!!!

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MsPrism
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posted December 10, 2013 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree Lotis.

I think if we had his declinations, we could see how his Moon and Venus are being affected by other planets too.

Jessica just made a thread about parallels and contraparallels, people (as well as I) seem to really relate to them as either a conjunction or opposition.

For example: My moon is parallel Uranus within 1° and I completely relate to the Moon conjunct Uranus descriptions.

So if say Hera or BB have their Venus/Mars Moon/Sun parallel or contraparallel other planets then we could get more information on what their ideals are in partnership.

We could extend that to rulers of the 5th/7th/8th Houses too and find out even more info.

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posted December 10, 2013 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some other thoughts just occurred to me.

Her Venus in Taurus matches well to his secondary Dsc as Taurus (Taurus on the IC for a Cancer Dsc). It has a very Venus on the Dsc type vibe apart from original Venus in the 4th in synastry meaning.

His Moon in Gemini would be directly in her 5th house, and his Venus/Mars conjunction in Virgo would be in her 7th or 8th house.

Her secondary 5th house ruler Mars is opposite Pluto in her own chart (with Gemini on the 5th house cusp, the 3rd house is the secondary 5th house). This indicates attraction to Pluto types. Plus Mars opposite Pluto alone shows something about her images of attractive male behavior.

Another thing I do is look at the house associated with the sign of Mars to tell more about the men a women is attracted to (it can work with Venus for men as well).

Hera has Mars in Aries (opposite BB's Mercury).

Aries traditionally rules the 1st house. Hera has Capricorn on the 1st house cusp ruled by Saturn in Scorpio... BB's Asc is conjunct Hera's in Capricorn and his Sun is conjunct her Saturn in Scorpio!

He matches with a good deal of her male ideals.

Nice symmetry... He has Venus conjunct Mars and she is an Aries. She has Mars opposite Pluto and he is a Scorpio.

Oh yeah, Hera's Dsc ruler, the Moon, is in Sagittarius and BB has Sun, Mercury, Pluto and Saturn all in the 9th house (the Sagittarius house), and Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune in Sagittarius. Good symbolism match here.

She is an Aries with Aries on the 3rd house cusp, and so her Aries planets are probably the 3rd house... This matches well with his Gemini Moon/Dsc ruler/Gemini 5th house symbolism.

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posted December 13, 2013 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your analysis, Lotis, Rosalind and MsPrism! Sorry for disappearing off the radar like that, getting back to the real world was pretty demanding.

BB has dated both Aries and Capricorn, which are 2 of the signs I identify with the most and I do have a strong pull towards Scorpionic types (the evolved ones, I don't have the patience to play silly games anymore).

I think there are things that make us very similar, as if we're different manifestations of the same being. For instance, we are both 11 Lifepath numbers and also both our names add to 1 (destiny number). Other things make us polar opposites, like our Moons for instance. His in Gemini, mine in Sag; his in the 5th, mine in the 11th; his conjunct NN, mine opposite NN. Cute little findings like that. They make me smile.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 13, 2013 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations!!

Much faster than I was. Great for you!!

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posted December 13, 2013 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've discovered that dwads (and sometimes decanates) 'hold the magic' as well. I've been absolutely blown away.

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posted December 13, 2013 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I've discovered that dwads (and sometimes decanates) 'hold the magic' as well. I've been absolutely blown away.

Sometimes. Not always.

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posted December 13, 2013 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I've discovered that dwads (and sometimes decanates) 'hold the magic' as well. I've been absolutely blown away.

Are we talking about Dwads or Duads?

And I agree with Rosalind, sometimes I have been blown away by them, at other times not so much.

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posted December 13, 2013 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listing mostly conjunctions and oppositions.

My duad chart:

Sun (13*41 Aries)----> 14*12'48'' Virgo
It conjuncts BB's natal Mars and Venus, his duad Mercury and Pluto, opposes his duad Mars and Venus

Moon (29*05 Sag)-----> 18*36 Scorpio
It conjuncts BB's natal MC, his duad Sun and Asc (exact)

Mercury (22*41 Aries)-->2*12 Capricorn

Venus (18*47 Taurus) --> 15*24 Sagittarius
It conjuncts BB's Jupiter and Uranus and opposes his Moon and NN (natal), conjuncts his duad NN

Mars (28*50 Aries) --> 16*00 Pisces
Opposes BB's natal Mars-Venus conjunction and conjuncts the same duad conjunction; opposes his duad Mercury.

Jupiter (10*50 Sag) ---> 10*00 Aries
Conjuncts BB's duad Jupiter and MC

Saturn (2*26 Scorpio) ---> 29*12 Scorpio
Conjuncts BB's duad Sun

Uranus (8*55 Sag)---> 17*00 Pisces
Opposes BB's natal Venus-Mars, conjuncts his duad Venus-Mars, opposes his duad Mercury

Neptune (29*13 Sag) -->20*36 Scorpio
It conjuncts BB's natal MC, his duad Sun and Asc

Pluto (28*33 Libra) ---> 12*36 Virgo
It conjuncts BB's natal Mars and Venus, his duad Mercury and Pluto, opposes his duad Mars and Venus

asc (23*50 Cap)---> 16*00 Libra
Opposes BB's duad Jupiter-MC conjunction, also trines his natal Moon-NN

MC (21*16 Scorpio) ---> 15*12 Cancer
Opposes BB's duad Moon-Saturn conjunction

NN (28*6 Gemini) ---> 7*12 Taurus
Opposes BB's natal Sun-Saturn conjunction

Juno (10*14 Pisces) --> 2*48 Cancer
Trines his natal Sun-Saturn conjunction and his duad Venus-Mars


Blackbird's duads:

Sun (1*46 Scorpio)----> 21*12' Scorpio
It actually conjuncts my MC exact and his duad MC conjuncts my Sun almost exact too.

Moon (18*33 Gemini)-----> 12*36 Capricorn
Conjuncts my duad IC

Mercury (28*31 Libra)-> 12*12 Virgo
Conjuncts my duad Sun-Pluto conjunction, opposes my duad Mars-Urauns conjunction

Venus (15*37 Virgo) --> 7*24 Pisces
Mars (15*50 Virgo) --> 10*00 Pisces
They conjunct my natal Juno (and natally BB's Juno is conjunct my Mars); also conjunct my duad Mars-Uranus conjunction and opp my duad Sun-Pluto conjunction

Jupiter (11*09 Sag) ---> 13*48 Aries
Conjuncts my natal Sun, and my duad DC

Saturn (6*35 Scorpio) ---> 19*00 Capricorn
Conjuncts my natal Asc and my duad IC

Uranus (7*10 Sag)---> 26*00 Aquarius
Conjuncts my natal anti-Vertex and makes a bunch of sextiles and trines to my natal chart.

Neptune (27*04 Sag) -->24*48 Libra
Conjuncts my natal Pluto, opposes natal Mars and Mercury; conjuncts duad Asc

Pluto (29*33 Libra) ---> 24*36 Virgo
Conjuncts my duad Sun, opposes my duad Mars-Uranus

asc (26*33 Capricorn)---> 18*36 Scorpio
Conjuncts my natal MC, my duad Moon-Neptune conjunction and opposes exact my natal Venus

MC (13*42 Scorpio) ---> 14*24 Aries
Conjuncts my natal Sun and my duad Jupiter and DC

NN (16*39 Gemini) ---> 19*48 Sagittarius
Conjuncts my duad Venus

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This girl is on FIRE

LOVE, because what else is worth living for, and dying for?!

Sandpaper kisses on a cheek or a chin
That is the way for a day to begin.
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr
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posted December 13, 2013 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the chart of the online "meeting".

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This girl is on FIRE

LOVE, because what else is worth living for, and dying for?!

Sandpaper kisses on a cheek or a chin
That is the way for a day to begin.
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr
I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur!

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posted December 13, 2013 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! DDD

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posted December 14, 2013 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
Thank you for your analysis, Lotis, Rosalind and MsPrism! Sorry for disappearing off the radar like that, getting back to the real world was pretty demanding.

BB has dated both Aries and Capricorn, which are 2 of the signs I identify with the most and I do have a strong pull towards Scorpionic types (the evolved ones, I don't have the patience to play silly games anymore).

I think there are things that make us very similar, as if we're different manifestations of the same being. For instance, we are both 11 Lifepath numbers and also both our names add to 1 (destiny number). Other things make us polar opposites, like our Moons for instance. His in Gemini, mine in Sag; his in the 5th, mine in the 11th; his conjunct NN, mine opposite NN. Cute little findings like that. They make me smile.


Your welcome Hera,

That duad list made me want to go study mine all over again. You and BB have some pretty good connections there.

These are my favorites...

Sun (13*41 Aries)----> 14*12'48'' Virgo
It conjuncts BB's natal Mars and Venus, his duad Mercury and Pluto, opposes his duad Mars and Venus

Moon (29*05 Sag)-----> 18*36 Scorpio
It conjuncts BB's natal MC, his duad Sun and Asc (exact)

(The Moon is your 7th house ruler, so having it on his duad Sun and Asc seems very significant to me.)

Venus (18*47 Taurus) --> 15*24 Sagittarius
It conjuncts BB's Jupiter and Uranus and opposes his Moon and NN (natal), conjuncts his duad NN.

(Your duad Venus also squares his tropical Venus/Mars conjunction. It seems like it could be significant.)

Mars (28*50 Aries) --> 16*00 Pisces
Opposes BB's natal Mars-Venus conjunction and conjuncts the same duad conjunction; opposes his duad Mercury.

(There are some good Venus/Mars connections here, that aren't showing via tropical synastry alone. I think it's a good sign.)

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posted December 14, 2013 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Some people live Astrology instead of living LIFE.

This is exactly what I was going to say!

Well, that and CONGRATULATIONS!!!

I just got into learning about astrology and I keep reading "this is bad", "this is bad", "this is a deal breaker", "this is afflicted" etc. And frankly I don't live it that way at all. My some of my "bad" aspects, placements, etc are in fact the things I like best about me and knowing about the others helps me understand some of my reactions which only helps me more.

Anyway, I had a GREAT 14+ yr relationship with my ex and really we could have married 2 weeks after we met. We were that sure.

Now looking at our synastry for the first time recently, had I listened to the neigh sayers I wouldn't have entered this relationship. And I would have missed out on so much good stuff.

No, it didn't last "forever". But we are good with that. It was a wonderful experience and we both changed and grew through it. I wouldn't have given it up for the world.

So, go forth Hera & BB, go forth and be happy! At least you guys know where your challenges may come in to play and you can deal with them up front instead of being blindsided by them.

I wish you both all the good things in life!

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posted December 15, 2013 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!
Strong Duad connections right there!


For me personally, I read that the Duad of a woman`s Mars sign would be indicative of whom she is attracted to, just for me it doesn`t happen. My Duad Mars is on 2 Aquarius.

However, what I failed to take into account is that Mars isn`t part of my attraction-profile anyway. So maybe that is why.


_Anyway, have you ever checked your Duad-composite?

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y didnt i see this bfr??omfg lololol!!
bravo hera, n-ai stat pe gânduri, chiar ești berbec !!! foarte tare!!!
sănătate și fericire să aveți si casa de piatra!!

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posted March 08, 2014 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For study purposes I want to offer feedback on the FM chart. Congratulations to all who said it will not work out, you were right. I was wrong. I think a late Asc/DC was a bad idea, if anyone wants to take this advice into account. Go with Cardinal or Fixed angles, as I initially wanted also. No mutables, no late degrees. Too unstable and wishy-washy.

Edit: also, no matter how good the FM chart, the natals should be activated also. In this case, only my DC was activated (FM DC conjunct natal DC ruler), but not his. You need both, otherwise one will not be as motivated to continue.

Also wanted to let everyone know I will not post as Hera anymore. This is my last post here.

Thanks for everyone who has supported me through the years and has been there for me, in my times of joy and in my sorrows, and especially on this thread, at the time it meant a lot.

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