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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 11, 2013 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Oh okay.
Yeah, I see what you mean.
Well you do have more domicile in your Pillars. 2 out of 4, that's really great!

Well I don't have any exalted planets, you do though, you have a Taurus Moon



I don't have a domicile planet and those are a major boost.
Let's look at one of your elements, Mercurial, Mountain Top Fire. Do you see this in your life in some way? Like with me and plants...very earthy hobby.

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posted December 11, 2013 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
[b] Oh okay.
Yeah, I see what you mean.
Well you do have more domicile in your Pillars. 2 out of 4, that's really great!

Well I don't have any exalted planets, you do though, you have a Taurus Moon



I don't have a domicile planet and those are a major boost. [/B][/QUOTE]

Hm... Well you have your ASC's depositor Venus; is in Leo and I think that's wonderful!

Many creative/artistic energies flowing there.

If you think about it, it's kinda like a more theatrical and creative Venus in Libra

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posted December 11, 2013 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

I bet earth is best with water and wood. I wonder if fire is good with wood since it needs fuel. Obviously, fire and water are not a great combination.

Hehe this is where the fun comes in. Earth is revived by water and it nourishes wood. But what happens if that water is flood water, and that Earth is Sand earth? Erosion. Whatever the earth person builds, flood water will destroy.

Similar with wood. Too much wood weakens earth, trees grow tall and strong, but earth became less fertile.

MI's kind of fire needs wood as fuel. But the wood person will be weakened. Experienced astrologers often agree that it is better for the wife's element to "aid" the husband, rather than the other way around.

LOL I remember when my s.o and I brought our charts to an astrologer, he pretty much wrote up a small book of interpretation. My father n my father in law also did two other ones. It is all very interesting and a lot of it has been proven to be true. But it's like going back and forth, nothing is good and nothing is bad. In the "good", the "bad" is hidden, and vice versa.

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posted December 11, 2013 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, by the way... Did your Progressed Venus move into Libra yet?

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posted December 11, 2013 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Hehe this is where the fun comes in. Earth is revived by water and it nourishes wood. But what happen if that water is flood water, and that Earth is Sand earth? Erosion. Whatever the earth person builds, flood water will destroy.

Similar with wood. Too much wood weakens earth, trees grow tall and strong, but earth became less fertile.

MI's kind of fire needs wood as fuel. But the wood person will be weakened. Experienced astrologers often agree that it is better for the wife's element to "aid" the husband, rather than the other way around.


Hm... This is very interesting!

It's kinda more scientific in it's structure and I like that

So I would need a Wood (other element, such as I'm a Mountain-Top Fire) wife?

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posted December 11, 2013 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus is progressing veryyy slowly Mercurial, it's still at 29 Virgo with three minutes.


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posted December 11, 2013 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, what if you have a woman who has a lot of the fire element. Wouldn't she have a tough time finding someone? Or metal?

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posted December 11, 2013 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Venus is progressing veryyy slowly Mercurial, it's still at 29 Virgo with three minutes.


Oh, okay.
Very close though.
I can't wait to know if you feel the effects of it

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posted December 11, 2013 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Oh, okay.
Very close though.
I can't wait to know if you feel the effects of it

Soon progressed Venus will be conjunct your natal one
Exactly.

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posted December 11, 2013 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
So, what if you have a woman who has a lot of the fire element. Wouldn't she have a tough time finding someone? Or metal?

Well if she is fire element, then I don't think it will be good since 12muddy said I need Wood to fuel my Fire. (I guess we aren't talking about the Chinese animal signs anymore, but rather this new element thing)
And Metal I'm sure about Metal, though.
Maybe Metal and Fire are good though because it makes a quicker and sharper relationship, I believe. (Or were you not referring to me, but rather you?)

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posted December 11, 2013 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Soon progressed Venus will be conjunct your natal one
Exactly.

Oh yeah!
That's going to be awesome
I wonder if there will be some sort of special telepathy (like extreme telepathy) that day?

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posted December 11, 2013 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Well if she is fire element, then I don't think it will be good since 12muddy said I need Wood to fuel my Fire. (I guess we aren't talking about the Chinese animal signs anymore, but rather this new element thing)
And Metal I'm sure about Metal, though.
maybe Metal and Fire are good though because it makes a quicker and sharper relationship, I believe.

I wonder if women who have metal or fire have a difficult time finding a husband since, ideally, a wife's element should fuel a man's? Fire doesn't really fuel, it just devours and warms, provides light.
What about metal and fire together or fire with earth?

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posted December 11, 2013 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Oh yeah!
That's going to be awesome
I wonder if there will be some sort of special telepathy (like extreme telepathy) that day?


Haha, maybe? It will be a while because your Venus is at 1 degree. We haven't talked in a while and now we are chatting on here so maybe that has something to do with it? Even though Venus isn't chatting, Mercury is, it is about companionship, even online.

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posted December 11, 2013 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MI: preferably wood or fire, that would satisfy one part of "the list".

SSS: Hmm nah, having lots of fire or metal doesn't make it difficult for a woman to find her matches, at least not in this day and age, and not in western society.

It is said in the old books that women who have lots of Yang energy don't fit the typical Asian feminine ideals. So yeah in the old days people didn't often want wives and mistresses who could dominate them.

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posted December 11, 2013 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I wonder if women who have metal or fire have a difficult time finding a husband since, ideally, a wife's element should fuel a man's? Fire doesn't really fuel, it just devours and warms, provides light.
What about metal and fire together or fire with earth?

Interesting. You're right. It would make it harder I believe for the woman.

I would think the Earth can put out the Fire like you smother the fire with something or the Fire can set the grass on Fire.
I don't know

What if it were two women or men? How would that play out, then?

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posted December 11, 2013 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Interesting. You're right. It would make it harder I believe for the woman.

I would think the Earth can put out the Fire like you smother the fire with something or the Fire can set the grass on Fire.
I don't know

What if it were two women or men? How would that play out, then?


12muddy says it doesn't matter as much now because roles have changed a lot so nowadays, it might actually be a plus. I am sure back then the ones with yang energy managed somehow. Maybe they just tried to really disguise it with yin? They would have been somewhat neurotic, maybe, because they are repressing a part of their nature.

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posted December 11, 2013 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 12muddy:
[B]MI: preferably wood or fire, that would satisfy one part of "the list".

Oh, okay then.
Because of the Wood Pig and Rooster in me, so I need Fire, and Mountain-Top Fire element, I need Wood, right?

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posted December 11, 2013 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I wonder if women who have metal or fire have a difficult time finding a husband since, ideally, a wife's element should fuel a man's? Fire doesn't really fuel, it just devours and warms, provides light.
What about metal and fire together or fire with earth?


In chinese astro, fire bears earth (it burns things into ash -> earth). So generally speaking, fire woman and earth man may work.

Say, for a guy whose element is Sword Metal, he would need fire, since fire + metal --> sword.

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posted December 11, 2013 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
[b] Oh yeah!
That's going to be awesome
I wonder if there will be some sort of special telepathy (like extreme telepathy) that day?


Haha, maybe? It will be a while because your Venus is at 1 degree. We haven't talked in a while and now we are chatting on here so maybe that has something to do with it? Even though Venus isn't chatting, Mercury is, it is about companionship, even online.[/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, maybe.
Well they are conjunct now, so that's probably doing something. But they were conjunct before, too?

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posted December 11, 2013 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:

In chinese astro, fire bears earth (it burns things into ash -> earth). So generally speaking, fire woman and earth man may work.

Say, for a guy whose element is Sword Metal, he would need fire, since fire + metal --> sword.



And if the woman is metal...she is out of luck, haha..
I am a metal earth rooster and I feel like my elements are very strong like that and do not mesh well with others because when you think about it, these two are the most dense.
And besides this, roosters are not really known for getting along well with others.

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posted December 11, 2013 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
12muddy says it doesn't matter as much now because roles have changed a lot so nowadays, it might actually be a plus. I am sure back then the ones with yang energy managed somehow. Maybe they just tried to really disguise it with yin? They would have been somewhat neurotic, maybe, because they are repressing a part of their nature.

Yeah, I read
Yeah because now the Yang can complement males who are supposed to be Yang, but are more Yin.

I guess I'm Yin, lol.

But I'm super competitive and perfectionistic, so idk, lol.

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posted December 11, 2013 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, I read
Yeah because now the Yang can complement males who are supposed to be Yang, but are more Yin.

I guess I'm Yin, lol.

But I'm super competitive and perfectionistic, so idk, lol.



You might be more yin. My year, surprisingly, is yin. I am kinda shy and introverted but not too mixable.
I have an even yin/yang balance in my pillars.


So, is my heavenly pillar "small piece of earth" or am I missing some info?

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posted December 11, 2013 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:

Oh, okay then.
Because of the Wood Pig and Rooster in me, so I need Fire, and Mountain-Top Fire element, I need Wood, right?

Wood -> Fire, Fire -> Earth, Earth -> Metal, Metal -> Water, Water -> Tree/Wood.

Yes, Fire would be good, although too much Fire may as well burn you off. So in general, a mix of fire (for your mountain fire) and Earth (for your Wood).

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posted December 11, 2013 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, maybe.
Well they are conjunct now, so that's probably doing something. But they were conjunct before, too?

Venus hasn't ever progressed into Libra so they were not any more than they are right now.

*edit*

It does seem like fire would go well with fire. It would just be one big fire though...

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posted December 11, 2013 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
[b] Yeah, I read
Yeah because now the Yang can complement males who are supposed to be Yang, but are more Yin.

I guess I'm Yin, lol.

But I'm super competitive and perfectionistic, so idk, lol.



You might be more yin. My year, surprisingly, is yin. I am kinda shy and introverted but not too mixable.
I have an even yin/yang balance in my pillars.


So, is my heavenly pillar "small piece of earth" or am I missing some info? [/B][/QUOTE]

No, your heavenly pillar is known as one of the Four Pillars. They're the same thing I believe.

Also, you're always Yin if it's a Yin sign (Rooster) and Yang if it's a Yang sign.

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