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theunknown
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posted December 20, 2013 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy, this is why I don't count outer planets because everyone in our generation has domicile pluto

If you don't count outer planets, you have Saturn. If you count outer planet, then count pluto

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I'm so cappy
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posted December 20, 2013 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Humm, sounds reasonable
Ok, looks like Saturn is haunting me everywhere

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posted December 20, 2013 08:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. There can be no final dispositor if there is mutual reception.

2. The final dispositor has to be in the sign of its own rulership. (e.g Mars in Aries, Moon in Cancer, Pluto in Scorpio)

3. If the final dispositor is also ruler of ascendant, the influence of that planet will dominate the life.

-Rulers of the Horoscope: Finding Your Way Through the Labyrinth

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Jessica2407
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posted December 21, 2013 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:

Is Saturn my sole dispositor?


Yes. You have a grand/ultimate dispositor. Saturn.

Now check your saturn. How strong/aspects/delineations etc.

Outers are not dispositors.

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Jessica2407
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posted December 21, 2013 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerlite:
1. There can be no final dispositor if there is mutual reception.

2. The final dispositor has to be in the sign of its own rulership. (e.g Mars in Aries, Moon in Cancer, Pluto in Scorpio)

3. If the final dispositor is also ruler of ascendant, the influence of that planet will dominate the life.

-Rulers of the Horoscope: Finding Your Way Through the Labyrinth


Exactly.

mutual reception means they share rulership,so no ultimate/grand dispositor.

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posted December 21, 2013 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
mars/pluto with the sun.. you are a survivor.
DUH.

Hahaha in some ways

To Ellyn, if a chart doesn't have a sole dispositor, how does that work when one or more planets share rulership? Like in mine, either my planets are in mutual reception or they rule other planets but nothing stands on top.

And what does it mean if Venus is independent? Or is it..? It's domicile Libra and it doesn't disposit anything.

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Ellynlvx
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posted December 21, 2013 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's Independent.

A Mutual Reception is like a figure eight placement, you tend to go back and forth on things.

Sometimes you get a Circle of Dispositors where things just keep going in a never-ending loop (Venus in Sag/Jupiter in Leo/Sun in Taurus, back to Venus...)

It's all about who has final say in your life.

You just look at which Planets go to which Dispositor at the end of the day.

That's their go-to guy.

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posted December 21, 2013 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
soooo i cant have one?

jessica?

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posted December 21, 2013 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
That's Independent.

A Mutual Reception is like a figure eight placement, you tend to go back and forth on things.

Sometimes you get a Circle of Dispositors where things just keep going in a never-ending loop (Venus in Sag/Jupiter in Leo/Sun in Taurus, back to Venus...)

It's all about who has final say in your life.

You just look at which Planets go to which Dispositor at the end of the day.

That's their go-to guy.


My dispositors are... scattered. but I feel that the moon-merc-jupiter t-square dynamic is most palpable in my daily life. Jupiter is the dispositor of the moon, merc and jupiter are in mutual reception. I think mercury being in the apex of the t-square and my asc ruler is the focus of everything.

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posted December 21, 2013 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
soooo i cant have one?

jessica?


hmmm no, however, mercury is a major player in your chart K. But no sole grand dispositor.

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posted December 21, 2013 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Yes. You have a grand/ultimate dispositor. Saturn.

Now check your saturn. How strong/aspects/delineations etc.

Outers are not dispositors.


Thanks. Saturn is my strongest planet.

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posted December 21, 2013 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's my dispositor chart:

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posted December 21, 2013 09:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those that are in the black circles are the final dispositors.

Those in the blue circles are mutual reception planets.

Not everyone has a sole dispositor.

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Ellynlvx
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posted December 21, 2013 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too many Chiefs, and not enough Indians...

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posted December 21, 2013 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what happens when there aren't enough indians..? Hehe Sorry for asking too many questions. XD

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posted December 21, 2013 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would take a good look at my chart on a grid, and compare the Mutual Reception Planets, try to balance it out in my mind.

If there are Aspects between them, or Parallels, Contra-Parallels, I would take those into account, and try to figure it out from there.

Really there is SO much to a chart.

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posted December 21, 2013 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm still starting to grasp the concept of dispositorship and parallels/contraparallels. They seem to be very important but it's usually overlooked.

But IMO, it's easier to look into a chart with a sole dispositor that's why I'm kinda having a hard time figuring out mine hahahah

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Ellynlvx
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posted December 21, 2013 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have you on my list, do you want me to do you a Thread?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/009466-4.html

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posted December 21, 2013 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, sure that'd be great! Thank you for the pointers, by the way.

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posted December 21, 2013 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anytime!

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Ellynlvx
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posted December 21, 2013 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know your information, or I could do it right now.

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posted December 21, 2013 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I posted it on your thread haha

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Kerosene
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posted December 21, 2013 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww Im not special....

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Ellynlvx
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posted December 21, 2013 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With all that Gemini?

HA!

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Lunae
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posted December 21, 2013 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoever said you aren't special, Kero?

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