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Topic: How to handle men with Moon / Pluto
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 18, 2014 05:56 AM
  
On second thought..
Maybe that was a little more me when I was younger. I did explode in anger on a few girls who I felt were lying to me, but I don't let my temper get the better of me anymore. Now its more that I have a probing eye for anything that is "off" about the other person and/or our relationship and when I see it I distance myself from that person.in a way I wish I didn't have this aspect because I can't get past my detective streak. I just naturally search for signs that people are lying or betraying me in some way and as they say if you look for something you will find it eventually. IP: Logged |
Supreme cT
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From: NJ
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 18, 2014 12:22 PM
I have moon square pluto and i did have some traumitizing events happen to me because of my mom she hurt me very deep with the decisions she made and how she treated me when i was younger BUT i accept her and love her no matter what and now we have a great relationship but in the back of my head i will never forget what she did, my ex has moon trine pluto and her mom basically abandoned her and still to this day barely contacts her and i see its like a deep driving force in her life to prove to the world that she will be a better mom than her own, i realize that i was very able to handle all of her pain and emotional struggle especially when she would get crazy emotional and cry and all of that energy would come out i recognized it very well and i think i helped her heal just a little bit. I think being with someone else who has moon/pluto helps on bridginng the gap to understand why some people are really hurt since you yourself recognize it as well not all people understand or are able to deal with extreme displays of emotions either they dont know what to do or they just dont understand and look down on them for feeling like that but i noticed other moon/pluto can handle it better i just remebered my dad has moon square pluto and his mom was VERY ABUSIVE toward him she would hit him and everything and was just very mean to him and deff hurt him when he was younger i dont think its a coincidence that the 3 people i kno who have moon/pluto all have a deep issue/pain from there mother obv im sure there are people with moon/pluto who are just fine but i think a majority do have childhood memories/scars from there mother in other words just stand up for yourself if they get controlling but also be veryyy sympathetic and understanding IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted July 18, 2014 02:05 PM
Moon (Capricorn) square Pluto (early Scorpio) here. Wow… I can't really relate to most of what has been discussed in this thread. I have a fantastic mother who has never once betrayed me. My father, however, is another story…If someone is loyal, I will go to hell and back for them. However if I'm betrayed, I will turn their life into a living nightmare. IP: Logged |
7Grace
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posted July 18, 2014 11:26 PM
I know Moon/Pluto takes a beating, read any post about us. I'll post here what I posted for the woman Moon/Pluto. By the way, I believe an Evolved Moon/Pluto may be a purifier.Perfect by PINK speaks Moon/Pluto. I just looked up her chart, according to that, she holds a 2nd house Moon opposite Pluto in the 8th. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1-Yl50nCX4 "The whole world's scared, so I swallow the fear
The only thing I should be drinking is an ice cold beer
So cool in lying and we try, try, try but we try too hard
And it's a waste of my time.
Done looking for the critics, cause they're everywhere" IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 19, 2014 12:06 AM
I think people make too big of a deal about it. Personally I'd worry more about moon/neptune.  Just being honest. I have Pluto/asc (not the same I know). But I think people get the wrong idea about Pluto or at least put it in this little box of traits when in fact it may be more diverse.
For example myself. I have no desire to control others. I want to control myself, totally and I definitely do not take well to being controlled or manipulated... Lied to, etc.
But I have no desire to control or manipulate, etc. It's not outward. Just apply that to a moon or consider it and there you go.
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hannaramaa
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posted July 19, 2014 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
II'd worry more about moon/neptune. Just being honest.
I see what you did there. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted July 19, 2014 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
i realize that i was very able to handle all of her pain and emotional struggle especially when she would get crazy emotional and cry and all of that energy would come out i recognized it very well and i think i helped her heal just a little bit. I think being with someone else who has moon/pluto helps on bridginng the gap to understand why some people are really hurt since you yourself recognize it as well not all people understand or are able to deal with extreme displays of emotions either they dont know what to do or they just dont understand and look down on them for feeling like that
I have Moon Opp Pluto and I relate to the explosion of emotion (kind of). I have yet to unleash it on anyone I know other than my mom. But I wonder how someone would handle that. I control my outbursts all the time so I don't know yet. Whatevs *shrug* I still love having this aspect. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 9751
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 19, 2014 03:35 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I see what you did there.
Yes, another passive aggressive dig at me. Surprise.. Surprise.. And I have tried to be civil and ignore it but its always happening. Isn't it amusing when a 23 year old (me) is more mature than a man in his late 30s? IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade
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posted July 19, 2014 04:39 AM
I'm glad to see some people have elvoved from thier moon/pluto... I do wonder sometimes why so many astrological descriptions are always so bleak and horrible. Geez. If that were the case I don't know how anyone would ever leave the house. Lots of what is said about moon/pluto should really have been out grown after the teen age years.  Just a couple of thought from my experience. The only person I really have a problem with is my mother, and she has the same moon sq pluto. You'd think as others have said we'd "get" each other but we don't. She's a Cancer and way too emotional for my Sag self to deal with. As someone else said, I had a functionally drunk absent father who died when I was a child and my mother is not really cut out to be a mom. My teen angst and meanness (for a little while) was directed at my mother. I was mean to her for a while. But I really don't like to hurt people (Libra Mars?) so I stopped that and just left the house when I was 17. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
Knowflake Posts: 2593
From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 19, 2014 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Yes, another passive aggressive dig at me. Surprise.. Surprise.. And I have tried to be civil and ignore it but its always happening. Isn't it amusing when a 23 year old (me) is more mature than a man in his late 30s?
Whoa whoa.... Slow down there.
I was being honest. I have not even read a single post of yours in this thread! If you go to the Scorpio fear thread right around here you'll see that I didn't read that at first either. I read pixies post and commented.
ALSO your afflicted moon or venus / hate women thread. I posted right in there that I hadn't read the thread or the article. Just because I post doesn't mean that I read jack crap in that thread. Let me go look because right now I am lost. I don't have a clue what you're talking about. Edit: I should have been specific. You have the trine dude. A smooth aspect. Don't flatter yourself. I wasn't talking about you.
I didn't read the thread and so I didn't even know that you had that. I was being honest anyway, AS I SAID. I wondered why she said that. I was like, "Wth is she talking about?" but didn't ask. And how many pa people do we have on here? Jeez... I've never seen a single "insult" thrown around so much. If we're all pa which is likely as much as it's said then people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You're not that important. I'm not fighting with you when I didn't give two ***** in the first place. Get over yourself. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
Knowflake Posts: 2593
From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 19, 2014 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I see what you did there.
Well apparently I didn't see what I did there. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
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From: Beachville, USA
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 19, 2014 03:52 PM
I think it depends on the person. The worst man I knew had the conjunction in Scorpio. He was cold, expected everything out of me while giving me nothing. He was jealous and possessive which I don't mind, but he literally gave me nothing of himself so I felt like he had no right. He also was very sensitive to perceived put downs. If he saw a man bigger than him, (who was everyone he was a tiny scrawny guy) he would start ranting about how smaller guys are better because of blah blah blah and bigger guys are stupid and all take supplements or whatever.However I knew another moon conj Pluto in Scorpio guy and he was so gentle and sweet. He was possessive but it was sweet. Hard to explain. More like he just wanted me all to himself but wasn't really angry or ****** off about it. He was all around much more mellow and open. In both, they like to see the other person vulnerable. And the emotions are licked up tight. They both had deep insecurities that guided their lives but only the first person I described let it effect him negatively. The second person also had sun sq Pluto do maybe that took the stress off his moon. IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat
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From: Austria
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 19, 2014 05:12 PM
That is an interesting topic. I only have an experience with an unevolved PlutoRx/Moon/UranusRx man. It is very good to hear that some evolve a Moon/Pluto conj. as well and how that can manifest in a good way.  IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
Knowflake Posts: 7541
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Registered: Nov 2011
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posted July 19, 2014 05:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Yes, another passive aggressive dig at me. Surprise.. Surprise.. And I have tried to be civil and ignore it but its always happening. Isn't it amusing when a 23 year old (me) is more mature than a man in his late 30s?
Uhm, I actually didn't even correlate it to you. I laughed because I know how Neptune makes things foggy and he said "Just being honest" which would require clarity. I like ironic humor... ETA: Read everything above. Guess it was unintentional. *shrug* 👍 IP: Logged |
meissieri
Knowflake Posts: 1138
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 19, 2014 06:04 PM
Oh, come on, just be a bit easier on Aqua here. With that other thread going on, are you really surprised he gets sensitive about it? No need to slam him ("get over yourself", "you're not that important") - it was an honest misunderstanding on both of your parts. This is a thread about Moon-Pluto afflictions, right? Just to add to the topic: I have the sextile, tight aspect. I guess it's easier than having the afflitions, but it makes me quite drawn to others with a Moon-Pluto aspect or a Scorpio/8th house Moon. Transiting Pluto going over my IC and Moon probably helps, too. From what I've seen (grew up with a very Plutonian, Scorpio Moon mother), they do tend to read into a lot and yes, it does get frustrating having to go out and prove I'm not trying to hurt them sometimes. But I do get it, which probably makes it easier to deal with them. At heart, they're just protecting themselves by putting up these walls and I just try to sympathize. IP: Logged |
7Grace
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posted July 19, 2014 06:22 PM
Pluto may just connect into the intangible that others aren't privy to.
As an example: A guy I know has Sun conjunct Pluto natal (as well as his Moon). When he was young his father held each his brother and his hand, then looked them in their eyes. And said, "Neither of you ever go into a river." Years later, his brother ran away. He drowned swimming across the Cumberland River.IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
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From: Beachville, USA
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 19, 2014 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by 7Grace:
Pluto may just connect into the intangible that others aren't privy to.
As an example: A guy I know has Sun conjunct Pluto natal (as well as his Moon). When he was young his father held each his brother and his hand then looked them in their eyes. And said, "Neither of you ever go into a river." Years later, his brother ran away. He drowned swimming across the Cumberland River.
I wonder if there are aspects for this. Not long ago I said something would happen. I don't know why I said it and it sounded over dramatic at the time. But the thing happened. No connection to me or anyone I said it to. It was a freak accident, I don't know what to think about it. IP: Logged |
BellaFenice
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From: Pseudo-Leo with a 1st House Stellium
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 19, 2014 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I think people make too big of a deal about it. Personally I'd worry more about moon/neptune. Just being honest.
I see you making a clearly blatant, obvious, and passive aggressive dig towards my Pisces Moon. Just trying to summon and rile me up, aren't ya? How dare you!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! HAHAHA.  C'mon now, DeepFreeze wasn't gunning for anyone. It was a general, blanket statement about the lesser of two evils. Thats all. IP: Logged |
7Grace
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posted July 19, 2014 06:38 PM
What house is Pluto in?IP: Logged |
mamawolf
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From: the universe
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 19, 2014 06:39 PM
The one guy I know pretty well has it in Scorpio(Pisces sun, Aries rising). He said he's been on anxiety medication for a long time because it would get to the point where he'd be laying on the bathroom floor shaking. He's more of a homebody and the one time I made him go to a small gathering, he drank too much and disappeared without anyone noticing and walked home! When his one serious relationship ended, he put on a few pounds along with some depression I'm sure. He seems closest to his mother and has even referred to her as mommy kinda half joking...I hope. A mixture of nerdy, adorable and sexual is a good way to describe him.My roommate also has it in Scorpio and you can definitely feel it (Cancer sun). I smelt it before looking at her chart. She has the Bettie Page look down. I was convinced she had a Scorpio rising but turns out Gemini and she's very flirtatious and sexual...a bit promiscuous if you may (deep childhood insecurity?). She calls herself a serial dater haha and it's true. I think she's looking for that raw intense love but gets bored easily if it's not that. Her mother along with the entire family situation is pretty crazy. Both can be intense in their flirting style and jesus christ, the EYES
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meissieri
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posted July 19, 2014 06:52 PM
Bella, I got that. And yes, my reaction was strong, too, I know. I'll drop it and just stick to the moon-Pluto, don't worry. And I love Pisces Moons! They're just lovely.  I feel strongly about it 'cause I know how this energy plays out. Like, for example (ontopic again!), there was a time my mother hadn't seen a bank transfer I'd made to her, paying her back some money I'd borrowed. I had, but she was genuinely convinced I'd just let things slip through the cracks and hoped she wouldn't notice, so she got angry at me. Thought I'd basically stolen from her. I did get upset at first, but then just went to look for my bank transfers and showed them to her, then we looked at hers together and found the evidence that I had really paid her back. I do admit I would've been more cranky if she hadn't apologized. It's never fun being accused of something you didn't do, but you just got to take a deep breath and show them you mean well. At least that's worked for me so far. She has Moon square Pluto on top of her Scorpio Moon. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 19, 2014 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
I see you making a clearly blatant, obvious, and passive aggressive dig towards my Pisces Moon. Just trying to summon and rile me up, aren't ya? How dare you!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! HAHAHA. C'mon now, DeepFreeze wasn't gunning for anyone. It was a general, blanket statement about the lesser of two evils. Thats all.
I could see it but I honestly wasn't digging. He has trine anyway.
Oh well, no harm no foul.
It's up to him how he feels. My sister has Pisces moon square Neptune... Whoa!
I usually think the sign is much better than hard aspect to the ruler. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19
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posted July 19, 2014 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by meissieri:
Oh, come on, just be a bit easier on Aqua here. With that other thread going on, are you really surprised he gets sensitive about it? No need to slam him ("get over yourself", "you're not that important") - it was an honest misunderstanding on both of your parts. This is a thread about Moon-Pluto afflictions, right? Just to add to the topic: I have the sextile, tight aspect. I guess it's easier than having the afflitions, but it makes me quite drawn to others with a Moon-Pluto aspect or a Scorpio/8th house Moon. Transiting Pluto going over my IC and Moon probably helps, too. From what I've seen (grew up with a very Plutonian, Scorpio Moon mother), they do tend to read into a lot and yes, it does get frustrating having to go out and prove I'm not trying to hurt them sometimes. But I do get it, which probably makes it easier to deal with them. At heart, they're just protecting themselves by putting up these walls and I just try to sympathize.
If he's going to get butthurt and insult my maturity, I'll show him immaturity then. Simple as that.
Fix his attitude and I'll fix mine.
I wasn't digging at him in the first place so don't pin jack on me. Back to topic please. I respond when addressed but it's really a mountain out of an ant hill.
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7Grace
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posted July 19, 2014 08:10 PM
A Moon/Pluto man is comfortable in the presents of a woman that is in control of her emotions.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted July 19, 2014 08:18 PM
When you say in control of her emotions, do you mean they don't like cry babies? Or that they just want you to have a stiff upper lip all the time?IP: Logged |
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