posted January 27, 2014 09:34 AM            

Venus in the 12th from what i read they are prone to having secret affairs or just very secret with their love life and might not be able to tell or show someone they love them even when they do.

Neptune not too sure about. Maybe drugs?

Neptune in the 12th house: http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.com/2009/10/neptune-in-12th-house.html?m=1

Venus in the 12th house: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013645.html

http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.com/2011/01/venus-in-12th-house.html?m=1

posted January 27, 2014 01:40 PM            

Therefore healthy planets in this house generally isn't a good thing.

However planets that are already sick- when they are in the 12th house, the result is wonderful.

posted January 27, 2014 02:02 PM            

Sun in twelfth can mean not having the guidance of male figures and feeling kind of detached or cut off from them, including the father. People with sun in twelfth can be secretive and prefer not to have so much attention. They make great investigators and are very kind but can be taken advantage of or feel their ways are not in sync with their culture or society in which they live.

Moon in twelfth might indicate having a difficult time knowing how you feel. Having problems connecting with women or mother. Very deep emotions. Can feel emotional turmoil.

So you see, all these twelfth house planets can indicate forces or events beyond your control and they will test you and it will either bring out your best or worst, depending on what you know, how you are prepared or how aware you are. The key with any twelfth house placement is to know thyself and have a firm idea of who you are, your boundaries, your limitations. A lot of times twelfth house people are delicate internally so they take on more than they can handle which can leave them exhausted or overly stressed.

Twelfth house planets are thought of as karmic, meaning they are left over from a previous lifetime. It's like they are unused so you experience for good or bad in this lifetime. With Venus and Jupiter here, you have some good karma left over, so you can expect an amount of good fortune in this lifetime if you believe in past lives.

Lastly, twelfth house is the end of life, the years before you die, your retirement. Cusp ruler and planets can inform about what life will be like for you at this time, if you will be more fortunate, less fortunate, and what may take place after death, your legacy.

This is just some basic info. It's not entirely good news. Remember guidance is the key word with this house. If you are unsure about something, reach out, ask others, talk to them. Or read a book, whatever. Don't trust your intuition or instincts entirely because you are capable of doing what you aren't aware of just on feelings and whims and this might not always be in your best interests. You could experience subconscious drives that influence your behavior, drives you do not understand and feel bad about later.

posted January 27, 2014 03:33 PM            

I think it's why I'm such an introvert! I love my peace and quiet and need a lot of time on my own to sort out my thoughts, emotions, etc... I hate public speaking but I've improved with practice thankfully. I find it difficult to speak up in groups and what not, not necessarily because of shyness but I just prefer listening and observing. I'm also very receptive of others' emotions. I've always been drawn to spiritual realms and "serve or suffer" is kind of my life's theme (I've been volunteering at homeless shelters since I was twelve)

I don't like being in the spotlight but I still often find myself drawn to leadership positions (probably because of all my aries, and I have moon conjunct mc in capricorn)

I used to hate this about my chart but I've grown to accept it and value it. I certainly don't feel like the typical selfish, confident, head strong aries but it comes out in different ways

I'd say be careful of isolating yourself and losing touch with reality. I think someone mentioned sun in twelfth house with father issues which is true for me. My parents divorced when I was a kid and since then I've had a very difficult and strained relationship with him. We rarely talk and when we do it's very cold. But I also have sun square neptune.

posted January 27, 2014 05:23 PM            

And I'm not exactly sure what it means. I think the impact of the 12th house in a person's life is always kind of vague. The planets here have a nebulous effect in a person's life. Maybe I'd be able to know the meaning of it more if my personal planets were there.

I do feel the 12th House Neptune on the Ascendant, though, mostly because I've always felt like people just see me the way they want to. This is true of a lot of people, as it's human nature to project. But, I think I get projected on A LOT and have throughout my life. And people have always had such widely varying reactions to me and opinions of me.