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posted March 22, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful, Indigo, and kinda melancholic.


BTW what does it mean if the spot in the neck gets warm?
I have had that yesterday, too, and today. It is a pleasant sensation, but unusual for me.
It`s actually spreading, into my heart AND into my head.

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posted March 22, 2014 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I kicked off the new companion Guardian Soulmates thread.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/225897.html

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posted March 22, 2014 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Beautiful, Indigo, and kinda melancholic.


BTW what does it mean if the spot in the neck gets warm?
I have had that yesterday, too, and today. It is a pleasant sensation, but unusual for me.
It`s actually spreading, into my heart AND into my head.


Thanks. I'm not sure if I wrote it. Heh. It was one of those instances where everything else was getting blotted out by a strong desire to communicate words in a certain fashion, though I had no idea where they were going, and what the point even was. Then it was done. :shrug:

Which part of the neck? Base of the skull? Underneath the chin? Side?

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posted March 22, 2014 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indigo,

the first lines you posted there, I knew them from the bottom of my heart. So strange.


As for where I feel it, well I am used to feel pressure and tingling at the bottom of my skull. This is lower.

middle between my shoulders and my skull, just opposite my throat chakra I suppose.
And it gets warm, and then pulsating through my head in one direction,a nd right through my heart, down to my feet. VERY nice feeling actually.
Intoxicating. AT some moments even blissful, makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time.
Something to do with Kundalini?

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TF or soulmates? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/200950.html

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posted March 22, 2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soulmates was the first gut instinct

on second thought
possibly tf not ready for reunion?

def. passionmates though

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posted March 22, 2014 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
their tropical composite is all frazzled.

While I don`t think it is ALWAYS necessary to have all planets lined up in one house or sign (though if it happens, wow!), I do think the composite would show concentrated spots, interlinked with each other. (esp personal planets)

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posted March 22, 2014 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Indigo,

the first lines you posted there, I knew them from the bottom of my heart. So strange.


As for where I feel it, well I am used to feel pressure and tingling at the bottom of my skull. This is lower.

middle between my shoulders and my skull, just opposite my throat chakra I suppose.
And it gets warm, and then pulsating through my head in one direction,a nd right through my heart, down to my feet. VERY nice feeling actually.
Intoxicating. AT some moments even blissful, makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time.
Something to do with Kundalini?


Those were the ones that just began going through my head so unbidden, before I sat down to write.

I'm not sure what you're describing there physically, but my guess would definitely be Kundalini related. What are the points or asteroids that tend to relate to it? Perhaps they're being highlighted by the SUN and a progressed point.

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posted March 22, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Those were the ones that just began going through my head so unbidden, before I sat down to write.

I'm not sure what you're describing there physically, but my guess would definitely be Kundalini related. What are the points or asteroids that tend to relate to it? Perhaps they're being highlighted by the SUN and a progressed point.


good idea!

So I would need to look up KAALI, possibly REIKI, AURA, SOMA probably. VESTA. lol


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posted March 22, 2014 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL


Just noticed today transits:

NN 28.36 Libra
VESTA 28.15 Libra
AURA28.48 Libra

SOMA 27.16 Leo

KAALI 26.55 Aquarius

true LILITH 26.30 Leo

natural LILITH: 29.01 Cancer

natural PRIAPUS: 25.55 Aquarius


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my natal:

my UNION 29.50 Libra

my REIKI 27.37 Sagittarius

my natural LILITH 27.58 Aquarius
my true LILITH 28.37 Aquarius

my PRIAPUS 0.08 Leo

also TR SIVA conjunct my natal Mars exact. lol and trine my natal AURA.

Tr Sun conjunct my n Aura by 2 degrees in Aries, so the head makes sense I suppose. lol

my pr SIVA on 26.57 Scorpio (conj. natal VALENTINE by one degree)

pr SOMA conjunct pr NEPTUNE on 11-12 Sag (conjnct tr Moon)


pr REIKI conj. pr ASC conjunct natal SPIRIT-GUINEVERE on 11 Cap, conjunct Tr PLuto on 13 Cap


Tr PRIAPUS and Tr KAALI conjunct pr Mercury and pr Venus on n PSYCHE


Wow my pr AURA is on the KUNDALINI degree, just where our helio composite AURA is, and my name in our tropical composite is on that very same degree

"A Serpent Coiling Near A Man And A Woman

Tr Jupiter conjunct pr DESC exact (and our Draco composite ASC. lol)


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posted March 22, 2014 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superman13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quote by venusdeindia(scroll down): http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012348-4.html

Supra Sexuality: http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=supra-sex
& http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9vP-GwWBH8

Quote by Samael Aun Weor:
SUPRA SEXUALITY - CHAPTER 6 THE PERFECT MATRIMONY --

Supra sexuality is the result of sexual transmutation. Christ, Buddha, Dante, Zoroaster,
Mohammed, Hermes, Quetzalcoatl and many other great Masters were Suprasexual.
Man has the power to recreate himself. Man is able to create within himself a Superman.
This is possible using the sexual power wisely. We can recreate ourselves as authentic
Supermen. This is only possible with sexual transmutation. The fundamental key for
sexual transmutation is the Arcanum A.Z.F. (Sexual Magic).
In the union of the phallus arid the uterus is found the key of all power. The important
thing is that the couples learn how to retire from the sexual act before the spasm, before
the seminal loss. One must not spill the semen; neither within the uterus nor without, nor
to the side, nor anywhere. Thus we speak clearly so people will understand, although
some puritanical infrasexuals judge us to be pornographic.
The Superman is not the result of evolution. The Superman is born of the Seed. The
Superman is the result of a tremendous revolution of consciousness. The Superman is the
Son of Man mentioned by Christ. The Superman is Adam Christ.
Evolution means that nothing stands still; everyone lives within the concepts of time,
space and movement. Nature in itself contains all possibilities. Nobody reaches
perfection with evolution. Some be come better, and the vast majority become terribly
perverse. That is evolution. The man of innocence, the man of paradise of several million
years ago is now, after much evolution the man of the atomic bomb, the man of the
hydrogen bomb and the corrupted being of embezzlement and crime. Evolution is a
process of complication of energy. We need to return to the point of departure (sex) and
regenerate ourselves. Man is a living seed. The seed, the grain must exert itself to
germinate the Superman. This is not evolution. This is a tremendous Revolution of
Consciousness. With just reason Christ said, "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the
wilderness, even so must the son of man be lifted up."
The Son of Man is Adam Christ, the Superman.
With sexual transmutation we can completely regenerate ourselves. The age of sexual
ecstasy is always preceded by the age of sexual pleasure. The same energy that produces
sexual pleasure, when it is transmuted then produces ecstasy.
The lamp of the hermit of the Ninth Arcanum, which is normally found enclosed in the
deep caverns of the sexual organs, must be placed in the tower of the Temple. This tower
is the brain. Then we become illuminated. That is the truly positive path that transforms
us into Masters of Samãdhi (ecstasy).
Every true technique of internal meditation is intimately related with sexual
transmutation. We need to raise the lamp very high to illuminate ourselves.
The birth of the Superman is an absolutely sexual problem. We need to be born again to
enter the Kingdom of the Heavens. The Superman is as different from man as the
lightning is from the black cloud. The lightning comes from the cloud but it is not the
cloud. The lightning is the Superman; the cloud is man. Sexual regeneration puts into
activity the powers that we had in Eden. We lost those powers when we fell into animal
generation. We reconquer those powers when we regenerate ourselves.
Only through the Path of the Perfect Matrimony can we reach suprasexuality.

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Interesting to note that my KAMA(Sanskrit for Lust) is on the 2nd Degree in Libra(Super Galactic Center) and also my KAALI conjunct's HEKATE about 1 degree closeness and EROS and MARS in my 5th according to iQ.

...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIG4og6d1Q
"The closer you look the less you see" - Now You See Me (2013)

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So is "High Sex Drive" related to Twin Flames? do you need to be highly sexed to find one? is your sexual energy bound by whether or not you find him or her(Twin Flame)?

..then the next step is finding out about 'Spiritual Wickedness'.
"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."
-- Ephesians 6:12

About True Evil, the Red Angel comes to mind: http://www.readbookonline.net/readOnLine/20719/

After watching 'Winter's Tale' there has to be some upper hand some unseen force that's doesn't want this to happen, for if everyone found there True Love wouldn't the world be a happy place? what's stopping it? The Gnostics views come to mind for so called 'Christians'.

iQ mentioned has mentioned this before, around pages 93-94-95 in this thread.

"I like your Christ, but i do not like your Christians, your Christians are so unlike your Christ!" -- Gandi

Carl Gustav Jung talked about the same evil:
“an unknown ‘something’ has taken possession of a smaller or greater portion of the psyche and asserts its hateful and harmful existence undeterred by all our insight, reason, and energy, thereby proclaiming the power of the unconscious over the conscious mind, the sovereign power of possession.”
-- Carl Gustav Jung

Father Martin Malachi the same thing: http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2157666#i

.. so what is happening here?
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but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
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posted March 22, 2014 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superman13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Batman Dark Knight comes to mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJma8pVAvH4

For if we are one? then i always carry you in my heart: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNNqgN4DXJo and knowing that Death has no Dominion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruh7uQ9hSQk
& http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROZna2hVz3A

What is the real battle here in this realm and what is the point of this renuion? is not to fall under the darkness, to speed up ones soul to the Dark Side?

"Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those around you who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not. Attachment leads to jealousy. The shadow of greed that is. Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose." -- Yoda

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posted March 23, 2014 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hrm.

Okay, well, since one of my soul missions is to take a critical eye to everything, here we go.

• lightning does not come from frozen moisture crystals in the lower atmosphere, but via electromagnetic interference from the ungrounded earth. It appears to travel along the clouds in the sky due to the speed of light.

But that's a minor correction.

I do not think Twin Flames must have a high sex drive, or that physical sex plays irrevocably and inextricably into it. I feel it's merely ONE way in which two souls can form bonds and do great things. May be greater or of more importance to some than others.

Just my initial cursory look there.

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posted March 23, 2014 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for superman13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Hrm.

Okay, well, since one of my soul missions is to take a critical eye to everything, here we go.

• lightning does not come from frozen moisture crystals in the lower atmosphere, but via electromagnetic interference from the ungrounded earth. It appears to travel along the clouds in the sky due to the speed of light.

But that's a minor correction.

I do not think Twin Flames must have a high sex drive, or that physical sex plays irrevocably and inextricably into it. I feel it's merely ONE way in which two souls can form bonds and do great things. May be greater or of more importance to some than others.

Just my initial cursory look there.



Just a point. Although for me it has been a VERY different journey to see my so called Twin Flame. My analytic mind has to work out everything possible, try to turn every stone over as possible. It was more darker then your average dark days i will tell you that.. :S

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posted March 23, 2014 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

I do not think Twin Flames must have a high sex drive, or that physical sex plays irrevocably and inextricably into it. I feel it's merely ONE way in which two souls can form bonds and do great things. May be greater or of more importance to some than others.

Just my initial cursory look there.


I agree with this.
Just like oyu pointed out with the chakra-colours, there might be not just ONE single shoe that fits all.
While there will be certain parallels, of course, we are still unique.


Another thought I had was that maybe sometimes the desire for union or merging (spiritually) gets "mistaken" (not sure mistaken is the right word though) for a high sex-drive.
Sex might be a way to express this union in this physical dimension - or an attempt to do so-, but at the core of it is the desire to be one, and to experience that oneness in this dimension as well, cause acutally we are living in this physical dense dimension and have to filter all spiritual experiences and manifest it here. Which is why I think it is really tragic having a highly vibrating helio composite, that does not quite translate to the geo composite.

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posted March 23, 2014 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It was more darker then your average dark days i will tell you that.. :S

You feel your connection to your twinflame has plunged you in darkness or something about it feels dark?

That surprises me.

For me the experience meeting Mr Sag was the opposite. While my analytical mind was still totally unable to cope, it was because it was dazzled by that light streaming in. Couldn`t handle so much energetic input all at once.


It really felt like someone had switched on the light, when he enterd the picture.
Or no, that doesn`t do it any justice.

It was more like having lived in a dark moist cool cave, and aving grown accustomed to the twilight, and then suddenly stepping out into the august sun. Of cuorse I was blinded, and it pinched and hurt in my chest, when the numbness was suddenly melting away and it felt like someone had opened my heart and placed a sun right in there.
I was unused to that of course at first. So much warmth, energy, heat, radiance, light. It scared me, not a little, at first, but I never had any feelings of darkness around him. Quite the opposite, there is the feeling if I get lost in darkness, wandering through the underworld (which I sometimes have to do. Pluto conjunct Transylvania on my MC squaring Venus-Isi-Osiris-Spirit; Hekate-Lilith trine Venus-Isis-Osiris-Spirit and squaring ASC), but nowadays I do not even get lose (just make a short trip there now and then), because he feels like that shining light guiding me out of there and to the surface again.


I suppose we are quite complementary, as much as we are similiar.


How do the others experience it?

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.....So I saw him yesterday!!!!! For the first time in 8 months! Well, ok, we passed each other driving...but still!!!

I was in town, my sister had come in for a visit and we were going to lunch. I was blabbering away and at the last minute something told me to glacé at the on coming cars in the other lane..BAM. There he was I caught him just as he passed my car...I knew it was him because I knew his car and his dark features...don't know if his wife was with him (I think someone was) but this huge shock of energy went straight through me...the butterflies, anxiety...heart pounding like crazy. I'm almost positive he saw me as well but of course I'll never know for sure. Wow...couldn't get him off my mind for the rest of the afternoon. ❤❤ sigh...

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I agree with this.
Just like oyu pointed out with the chakra-colours, there might be not just ONE single shoe that fits all.
While there will be certain parallels, of course, we are still unique.


Another thought I had was that maybe sometimes the desire for union or merging (spiritually) gets "mistaken" (not sure mistaken is the right word though) for a high sex-drive.
Sex might be a way to express this union in this physical dimension - or an attempt to do so-, but at the core of it is the desire to be one, and to experience that oneness in this dimension as well, cause acutally we are living in this physical dense dimension and have to filter all spiritual experiences and manifest it here. Which is why I think it is really tragic having a highly vibrating helio composite, that does not quite translate to the geo composite.


I would tend to agree with this...having a strong sense of merging/union with a TF being slightly mistaken for a high sex drive...I think the Desire for union itself can be that strong.

Interesting thought Ceri about the Helio vs. geo composite and it being tragic if the Helio is so strong compared to the geo. would you consider Cusp and my Helio to be that way? Our Helio is mega concentrated compared to our geo, but we still have sun.moon in the 7th.

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posted March 23, 2014 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by superman13:
http://youtu.be/laL4CSb7cAU

If i was inside of you by Les Visible

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in helio composite there is a VESTA-Venus-sextile which becomes the basis of two interlocking aspect configurations (Yod and Cradle), with it being the base of a Yod to an exact SIVA/KAALI-conjunction in 18 Sagittarius

so helio composite:

VESTA sextile Venus and UNION
VESTA quinkunx SIVA and KAALI
VESTA trine KARMA exact
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What's that mean? lol


You have a Yod-figure, with VESTA-Venus-sextile at the base and SIVA/KAALI-conjunction at the head.
It means that SIVA/KAALI is at the midpoint of Venus-Vesta, thus the energy generated by Venus-Vesta gets poured into and out through Siva/KAALI. It is how Venus-Vesta manifests.


So what could that mean in a helio chart?

As a start I list the Sabian degrees for each

Venus is at 17-18 Taurus:
A Woman Airing An Old Bag Through The Open Window Of Her Room
Bringing air and light to a situation. Psychoanalysis. Past life regressions or memories.

UNION at 20-21 Taurus:
A Finger Pointing To A Line In An Open Book
Looking for clues. Reading significant pieces of writing


VESTA at 19-20 Cancer
Venetian Gondoliers Giving A Serenade
Romantic fantasy. Singing and music. Performances.

SIVA/KAALI at 18-19 Sagittarius
Pelicans Menaced By The Behavior And Refuse Of Men Seek Safer Areas For Bringing Up Their Young
You may feel that conditions are changing and you and your family (sometimes friends) don't feel safe. You may need to move to a new situation which will provide more nourishment

SIVA: 18°37 Sagittarius
KAALI: 18°21 Sagittarius
(mp: 18°29)


relating to these midpoints:

Venus/VESTA 18°33
UNION/VESTA 19°56


so especially the Yod between Venus sextile VESTA, quinkunx SIVA/KAALI is significant. Just look how closely the Venus/Vesta midpoint is aligned with Siva and Kaali!


The VESTA Sabian certainly puts the sextile into a very romantic context, add to that that Venus is part of it as well AND in domicile, in Taurus, it adds a strong vibration of sensual romance to the mix.

The Venus-Sabian describes a theme of purification, maybe also clarification. Doing away with the old, and letting in the new, fresh (air).
To me it is an indication for a new beginning, or a renovation of the old.


Now for the aspect itself, Venus sextile VESTA. Beautiful aspect. soulful and emotional (Cancer) dedication and service (Vesta) to sensual, stable (Taurus) romantic attraction and love (Venus).

This sensual romance is now channelled, or manifesting through Siva and Kaali. It is how it can be expressed. Siva and Kaali is about the hottest pairing (next to Rudra-Kaali) you can have. Tantric sexuality. Transformative.
It is interesting htat Vesta ALSO has a relation to tantric sexuality.
I am not sure what to make of thi Sabian, but putting that aside, - let me be blunt here and not mince words- but that seems a very clear indicator to etheric body sex here, and totally fits what you described in your first post.
It is etheric body or spiritually oriented more than manifesting in the physical get-together because thsi Yod happens in the helio chart. (doesn`t say a physical get together is excluded though!)


Your tropical composite UNION is on 17.24 Taurus, very closely conjunct helio composite Venus on 17.33 Taurus

Interestingly there is nothing in the Draco comosite activating either of these degrees (18 Taurus - 20 Cancer - 19 Sagittarius), so I suppose this is not stemming from a past life experience, at least not directly, but is a new way of relating in this incarnation (the sabian of the new beginnings and changes make sense then).


However whenever you tap in that feeling of UNION in this physical dimension you open a channel to the spiritual love and attraction (helio Venus), which in turn activates the whole Yod (the energy flows within that Yod-figure, because it is a closed circuit, and if one point gets energized there are channels to move the energy to the other points as well).

But it is really that feeling of spiritual love that becomes the vehicle and motor of this happening.

It also means that THIS is what is really lying behind and is the purpose, the core spiritual nature of your Union.


at least tha is how I would interprete it.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
You have a Yod-figure, with VESTA-Venus-sextile at the base and SIVA/KAALI-conjunction at the head.
It means that SIVA/KAALI is at the midpoint of Venus-Vesta, thus the energy generated by Venus-Vesta gets poured into and out through Siva/KAALI. It is how Venus-Vesta manifests.


So what could that mean in a helio chart?

As a start I list the Sabian degrees for each

Venus is at 17-18 Taurus:
A Woman Airing An Old Bag Through The Open Window Of Her Room
Bringing air and light to a situation. Psychoanalysis. Past life regressions or memories.

UNION at 20-21 Taurus:
A Finger Pointing To A Line In An Open Book
Looking for clues. Reading significant pieces of writing


VESTA at 19-20 Cancer
Venetian Gondoliers Giving A Serenade
Romantic fantasy. Singing and music. Performances.

SIVA/KAALI at 18-19 Sagittarius
Pelicans Menaced By The Behavior And Refuse Of Men Seek Safer Areas For Bringing Up Their Young
You may feel that conditions are changing and you and your family (sometimes friends) don't feel safe. You may need to move to a new situation which will provide more nourishment

SIVA: 18°37 Sagittarius
KAALI: 18°21 Sagittarius
(mp: 18°29)


relating to these midpoints:

Venus/VESTA 18°33
UNION/VESTA 19°56


so especially the Yod between Venus sextile VESTA, quinkunx SIVA/KAALI is significant. Just look how closely the Venus/Vesta midpoint is aligned with Siva and Kaali!


The VESTA Sabian certainly puts the sextile into a very romantic context, add to that that Venus is part of it as well AND in domicile, in Taurus, it adds a strong vibration of sensual romance to the mix.

The Venus-Sabian describes a theme of purification, maybe also clarification. Doing away with the old, and letting in the new, fresh (air).
To me it is an indication for a new beginning, or a renovation of the old.


Now for the aspect itself, Venus sextile VESTA. Beautiful aspect. soulful and emotional (Cancer) dedication and service (Vesta) to sensual, stable (Taurus) romantic attraction and love (Venus).

This sensual romance is now channelled, or manifesting through Siva and Kaali. It is how it can be expressed. Siva and Kaali is about the hottest pairing (next to Rudra-Kaali) you can have. Tantric sexuality. Transformative.
It is interesting htat Vesta ALSO has a relation to tantric sexuality.
I am not sure what to make of thi Sabian, but putting that aside, - let me be blunt here and not mince words- but that seems a very clear indicator to etheric body sex here, and totally fits what you described in your first post.
It is etheric body or spiritually oriented more than manifesting in the physical get-together because thsi Yod happens in the helio chart. (doesn`t say a physical get together is excluded though!)


Your tropical composite UNION is on 17.24 Taurus, very closely conjunct helio composite Venus on 17.33 Taurus

Interestingly there is nothing in the Draco comosite activating either of these degrees (18 Taurus - 20 Cancer - 19 Sagittarius), so I suppose this is not stemming from a past life experience, at least not directly, but is a new way of relating in this incarnation (the sabian of the new beginnings and changes make sense then).


However whenever you tap in that feeling of UNION in this physical dimension you open a channel to the spiritual love and attraction (helio Venus), which in turn activates the whole Yod (the energy flows within that Yod-figure, because it is a closed circuit, and if one point gets energized there are channels to move the energy to the other points as well).

But it is really that feeling of spiritual love that becomes the vehicle and motor of this happening.

It also means that THIS is what is really lying behind and is the purpose, the core spiritual nature of your Union.


at least tha is how I would interprete it.


Ooh ooh me! Me! My turn . Ceri that was an amazing interpretation of the purpose of the union! I'm going to see if I can figure out ours- didnt you say our vesta is connected to our Siva/kaali trine?

I'm pretty sure we have a yod in our tropical composite as well...I would LOVE to figure out the purpose of our union... Would love your insight as well when you have a chance

Yod in Tropical composite:
Psyche/NN conjunction at 17 Libra sextile neptune at 16'27 Sag with Valentine at the apex (Tau 16'32 )

Sabian for 17 Taurus: A battle between the swords and torches...WTH??!!

Sabian for neptune @17 Sag- an Easter sunrise service
Sabian for psyche @ 17 Lib- a retired sea captain
Sabian for NN @ 18 Lib- two men placed under arrest

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Originally posted by tgem:
.....So I saw him yesterday!!!!! For the first time in 8 months! Well, ok, we passed each other driving...but still!!!

I was in town, my sister had come in for a visit and we were going to lunch. I was blabbering away and at the last minute something told me to glacé at the on coming cars in the other lane..BAM. There he was I caught him just as he passed my car...I knew it was him because I knew his car and his dark features...don't know if his wife was with him (I think someone was) but this huge shock of energy went straight through me...the butterflies, anxiety...heart pounding like crazy. I'm almost positive he saw me as well but of course I'll never know for sure. Wow...couldn't get him off my mind for the rest of the afternoon. ❤❤ sigh...


I love that. And I have the feeling synchronicities will start to rain on many of us.
Many gates will open, we just have to walk through them.

Today Tr KARMA at 24.50 Sagittarius


It will HIT the Galactic Centre on 12th april on 27.03 Sagittarius


Will turn retro on 22nd april on 27.16 Sagittarius, sextile NN on 28.22 Libra, trine (Mercury on 27.07 Aries conjunct JUNO on 27.22 Aries).


Will turn direct on 2nd august on 12.22 Sagittarius again,


and reach the GC on 18th ocotober again,

I think this is going to be quite a ride this summer.

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Ooh ooh me! Me! My turn . Ceri that was an amazing interpretation of the purpose of the union! I'm going to see if I can figure out ours- didnt you say our vesta is connected to our Siva/kaali trine?

I'm pretty sure we have a yod in our tropical composite as well...I would LOVE to figure out the purpose of our union... Would love your insight as well when you have a chance

Yod in Tropical composite:
Psyche/NN conjunction at 17 Libra sextile neptune at 16'27 Sag with Valentine at the apex (Tau 16'32 )

Sabian for 17 Taurus: A battle between the swords and torches...WTH??!!

Sabian for neptune @17 Sag- an Easter sunrise service
Sabian for psyche @ 17 Lib- a retired sea captain
Sabian for NN @ 18 Lib- two men placed under arrest


Ok here we go: I'm so bad at this- but will give it my best shot:
The psyche/NN conjunction in Liba sextile neptune talks about the journey (mission) of how our lives were stopped, completely broken down and transformed by our meeting (two men arrested.). It describes the despair, the difficult decisions, the longing, the experience of the "dark night of the soul" and how we were able to be transformed through unconditional love for each other despite the obstacles between us (Easter sunrise service). It's a story that is meant to teach people- inspire people that unconditional love exists in this world and only through the journey and experiences themselves (a retired sea captain) can we be truly shaped and molded into the TF couple/union that at it's own time and only through divine timing (not in our control or doing) could we truly come together to experience the sacrificial unconditional love or the purpose of our union...Valentine at 17 Taurus- battle between the swords and torches.

How did I do? Am I on target at all? Or did I totally miss the point?

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T-Gem,

yes, I think you are pretty on target

Let me look at the exact degrees (btw your VALENTINE is on my name asteroid in my chart ).


PSYCHE 16.49 Libra (2nd house)
NN 17°15 Libra


Neptune 16.27 Sag (4th house)

VALENTINE 16.32 Taurus (9th house)


As you can see it is a very precise Yod, therefore of utmost significance.

But let`s have a look at the midpoints.

PSYCHE/Neptune 16.38 Scorpio
NN/Neptne 16.51 Scorpio


This is a very soft and gentle aspectfigure. Despite the Sabian that tells us that you are oppressed from certain sides and that countering that obstacle is part of your destined path and evolutionary direction together in this life (NN-Sabian), you counter that oppression in a gentle tender way, as you are very much in tune with each other. Psyche on the NN also speaks of the need to tune into the soul-ful side of the connection and place emphasis there (this is not really about lusty fierce attraction, but a soulful intuitive one).
Having this exact Psyche-Neptune-sextile even enhances that theme, adding a very psychic and spiritual note to it.
Of course Neptune`s Sabian emphasizes the spiritual side even more. And also the promise of spiritual resurrection.


So this harmonious, idealistic, gentle and intuitive spiritual connection between you two pours all its energy into VALENTINE in Taurus. So it would be expressed in a sensual romantic loving way, and this lovingness of Valentine contains all the intuitive gentleness your Psyche-Neptune-sextile speaks of.

The Sabian of Valentine however also sais that you will have to and are willing to fight for your love. This is not a tame Sabian. And you need to make a decision, and basically i think it asks you to always "take the high road". Swords and torches I think represent weapons of the mind as opposed to more archaic instinctive ones.


In helio composite Neptune is still targeted, but that is because the outers do not change that much, which btw might be a reason why they are "agents of spiritual transformation" into our physical existence. It is like they are carrying something from the helio perspective right into our earthly one.


this Yod of yours,w hich speaks of what is manifesting on the physical level in this incarnation, does dock to helio APHRODITE on 16.40 Aries (this one is exact)and ATROPOS on 18.05 Scorpio

so this means that helio APHRODITE falls onto your tropical SN and oppose your tropical PSYCHE (opposition and conjunction are the only conditions I consider in this respect and only those who are tight - 2 degrees tops, bettr yet if exact)

and helio ATROPOS opposes tropical VALENTINE

There seems to be a strong magnetism (Aphrodite) stemming from a past life and this IS Inbuilt in your spritual connection. However, since helio Aphrodite is conjunct the SN I think it means that you have to go BEYOND this and express it in gentler more loving and compassionate ways, but without denying the existence of the underlying attraction and magnetism. You have to find a way to balance both!


The Sabian of APHRODITE is puzzling

"Two Dignified Spinsters Sitting In Silence"

Maybe it means that the chemistry is unspoken but nonverbally well understood.


And then there is tropoical VALENTINE opposite helio ATROPOS.
This made me laugh, well, almost, for the literal translation jumping into my mind: "romantic love (Valentine) is unavoidable (Atropos)"

Atropos is a puzzling one, as it also relates to how things end, but I tentatively interprete it from the literal meaning of a-tropos. A means a negation, un-. tropos has to do with something turning a turning point.
it is something that can´t be turned away.
So the experience of love is definitely part of your spiritual relationship-script.


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BTW this works best - and most intensely- with symmetrical tight-orbed aspect figures, aka aspectfigures consisting of the same harmonic, as only these contain strong midpoint-pictures.


3rd harmonic: Grand Trine

4th harmonic: T-square or Grand Cross

5th harmonic: Golden Yod (one quintile, two biquintiles)

6th harmonic: Grand sextile or Star of David, though this is ALSO a 3rd harmonic pattern of course; Kite; Mystical triangle, Cradle


9th harmonic: relating to novile-series


12t harmonic: Yod (12th harmonic aspects are quuinkunx and semisextile, and also containing the sextile, though that rather stems from the 6th harmonic).

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