posted March 27, 2014 09:51 AM            

your timing is immaculate!

I JUST came out of a lesson,a nd what am I reading with my pupils? Pyramus et Thisbe. lol

posted March 27, 2014 10:04 AM            

The time is precise for both, i'm on the inside.

Not to mention planetary aspects, only asteroids here:
(him first)
Karma
Karma opposite Sun 1
Karma square Saturn 1

Alma
Alma square Sun 0
Alma conjunct Saturn 0
Sun trine Alma 0
Moon trine Alma 0
Neptune conjunct Alma 2
ASC conjunct Alma 1

Union
Union trine Moon 0
Union sextile Mercury 0
Union sextile Venus 0
Union opposite Mars 0
Union square ASC 0
Union square Karma 1
Union trine Eros 1
Psyche square Union 0
Valentine square Union 0
MC conjunct Union 0

Eros
Eros conjunct NN 3
Union trine Eros 1
Psyche conjunct Eros 1 (conjunct my Moon, LOL)
Valentine opposite Eros 2

Psyche
Psyche conjunct Moon 0
Psyche sextile Mercury 1
Psyche sextile Venus 0
Psyche sextile Mars 0
Psyche square Union 0
Psyche conjunct Eros 1
Mercury sextile Psyche 0
Jupiter square Psyche 0
Uranus opposite Psyche 1
Chiron conjunct Psyche 0
Lilith conjunct Psyche 0
Amor sextile Psyche 0

Isis
Isis opposite Moon 1
Isis trine Mercury 0
Isis trine Venus 2
Isis trine Mars 1
Isis opposite Jupiter 2
Isis square Union 1
Isis conjunct Osiris 1
Saturn trine Isis 1

Osiris
Osiris square Sun 2

Amor
Amor opposite Sun 0
Amor square Saturn 0
Amor sextile Psyche 0

Valentine
Valentine opposite Moon 1
Valentine trine Mercury 2
Valentine trine Venus 0
Valentine trine Mars 0
Valentine square Pluto 1
Valentine square Union 1
Valentine opposite Eros 2

Spirit
Spirit opposite Vertex 0
Sun trine Spirit 0
Moon trine Spirit 0
ASC conjunct Spirit 0

I would especially mention here the conjunction of his Psyche and my Eros/Moon being almost exactly opposite the conjunction of his Isis and my Osiris.

posted March 27, 2014 10:29 AM            

Just giving instant spontaneous thoughts here.

I think to "feel" it, and also feel the attraction, your Valentine, possibly Juno along with Venus and Mars would need to be activated big time.
you can have all the wonderful soulmate pairings in the world, if there is no love-connection, you will not "feel the love", even though there might still be compatibility and even a soul-connection. (I think we need to differentiate between connections of the soul and the heart; romantic attractions DO play a role in this, at least in how we perceive or experience the soulmate pairings).

Also, your 5th house ruler would need to be activated, for a spark to be felt.

Let`s see.

your 5th house ruler seems to be unaspected, or is that a square to Venus?

your Mars, which is also your 8th house ruler, unaspected as well.

there is a beautiful VALENTINE falling onto your ISIS-OSIRIS-conjunction, but it is HIS Valentine, not yours. he`s feeling it I guess.

Your VALENTINE on the other hand, natally conjoned with JUNO, would probably need to be aspected as well, especially since they come in tandem.

But there`s just nothing there! Not even one aspect to an asteroid.

your Venus conjunct his Venus looks sweet, but is not that sparkly on its own (as a general rule, Venus in harmonious aspect to masculine planets or asteroids is certainly more sparkly).

Your EROS conjuncts his PSYCHE - granted. But Psyche, without backing up of planets, might be a bit too subtle here.

it is opposite his Valentine after all, which is potentially a very erotic aspect, so I donīt know why you donīt feel THAT one. lol

But unaspected or weakly aspected 5th house ruler AND 8th house ruler usually doesnīt bode too well for attraction.

Also, I am not sure but it might be your mars is trine his Venus after all, still for him natally Venus is in 9th house and ruling 9th and IC, so it doesnīt have too strong bearings on his "love-style".

Mercury carries a lot of love-vibes for him and here it is widely conjunct your Moon, ruler of your 11th house of "love received".

however probably even more telling would be the composite and its conjunctions/Oppositions to the natal chart.

posted March 27, 2014 11:02 AM              

I think you don't have those inner planets aspects like Sun-Moon aspects or Pluto aspects so you don't feel it that much despite having Eros-Psyche, Osiris-Isis.

posted March 27, 2014 11:25 AM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Awkward when you recognise the chart.

I think you don't have those inner planets aspects like Sun-Moon aspects or Pluto aspects so you don't feel it that much despite having Eros-Psyche, Osiris-Isis.

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posted March 27, 2014 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Why do you NOT feel it?

Just giving instant spontaneous thoughts here.

I think to "feel" it, and also feel the attraction, your Valentine, possibly Juno along with Venus and Mars would need to be activated big time.
you can have all the wonderful soulmate pairings in the world, if there is no love-connection, you will not "feel the love", even though there might still be compatibility and even a soul-connection. (I think we need to differentiate between connections of the soul and the heart; romantic attractions DO play a role in this, at least in how we perceive or experience the soulmate pairings).

Also, your 5th house ruler would need to be activated, for a spark to be felt.

Let`s see.

your 5th house ruler seems to be unaspected, or is that a square to Venus?

your Mars, which is also your 8th house ruler, unaspected as well.

there is a beautiful VALENTINE falling onto your ISIS-OSIRIS-conjunction, but it is HIS Valentine, not yours. he`s feeling it I guess.

Your VALENTINE on the other hand, natally conjoned with JUNO, would probably need to be aspected as well, especially since they come in tandem.

But there`s just nothing there! Not even one aspect to an asteroid.

your Venus conjunct his Venus looks sweet, but is not that sparkly on its own (as a general rule, Venus in harmonious aspect to masculine planets or asteroids is certainly more sparkly).

Your EROS conjuncts his PSYCHE - granted. But Psyche, without backing up of planets, might be a bit too subtle here.

it is opposite his Valentine after all, which is potentially a very erotic aspect, so I donīt know why you donīt feel THAT one. lol

But unaspected or weakly aspected 5th house ruler AND 8th house ruler usually doesnīt bode too well for attraction.

Also, I am not sure but it might be your mars is trine his Venus after all, still for him natally Venus is in 9th house and ruling 9th and IC, so it doesnīt have too strong bearings on his "love-style".

Mercury carries a lot of love-vibes for him and here it is widely conjunct your Moon, ruler of your 11th house of "love received".

however probably even more telling would be the composite and its conjunctions/Oppositions to the natal chart.

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posted March 27, 2014 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
Thank you! Yes, i guess those soulmate conjunctions don't play the main role..

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They do play a role, but they have to be embededed in the whole chart-tapestry.

posted March 27, 2014 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Tgem,

*hugs*
I know how you feel

But you must trust and have faith.
It wouldn't make you love for him any less if the cards proved otherwise right?

Astrology, tarot, numerology etc cannot draw any conclusions on weather or not someone is your TwinFlame, though they certainly are useful secondary tools to help guide you.
But they alone aren't THE answer.

Only you hold the answer within you.
Your soul knows, you can't deny that inner knowing/recognition.

So trust that.

Also,

If I may ask, which cards came up for you in the reading?

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posted March 27, 2014 12:19 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Hi IndigoDirae,
In the Composite with Fate, you also have PYRAMUS and THISBE make an exact trine. They also make a Mystic Rectangle with EROS trine PSYCHE.
The problem with Pyramus and Thisbe is that they are Twin Flames who cannot fulfill the relationship. Though Eros trine Psyche can overcome this effect, it will take time. You both are extraordinarily young in Earth Years considering the actual years of Existence.

Today, I completed writing Lesson 12 of my course, and I was explaining the importance of Aphrodite and JUNO. I wrote that their conjunction is very beneficial in Synastry/Composite.

I had not checked them in your composite with Fate, so after I completed writing I just checked. And Voila!
JUNO conjunct APHRODITE exact in 6 Libra....

There is no escaping the fact that you and Fate are Twin Flames, but if he wants to run, it is Free Will. You just have to explain everything to him and let him go on his "vacation" for a few more years. His Aquarius Rising Ego may always be a hindrance, a block from finding his own happiness and accepting/acknowledging his Twin Flame just so that he can chase his mirage of perfect freedom.

Also, some Aquarius Rising men find it very difficult to accept the intellectual superiority of women compared to themselves. They can accept artistic superiority or financial superiority or leadership but not intellectual superiority. I might be wrong but this might be another block created by him to run.

As per the Law of Attraction, the more you love yourself and love those who emotionally respond to you positively, the more the tug on your Twin Flame to come to you.

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This is great news Indigo! You guys have the Eros/psyche in this lifetime to overcome the hardships . I'm so happy for you that Fate is your bonefide TF..although I know how hard this must be/feel as well.

posted March 27, 2014 12:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
IQ,

your timing is immaculate!

I JUST came out of a lesson,a nd what am I reading with my pupils? Pyramus et Thisbe. lol

Like with Tristan and Isolda I`d rather have them not aspected in a synastry or composite.

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posted March 27, 2014 12:31 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Oh, for Pete's sake, Coffee was a troll who had a lot of problems.
You are all such nice people, but you get so enthralled with details sometimes that you fail to see the big picture.

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posted March 27, 2014 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Thanks for the support everyone . If I didn't have you all to keep me hoping and believing I don't know where I'd be 💙you All!!!

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posted March 27, 2014 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Cusp and I have them exact quintile in our Helio composite but it's not found anywhere else..thankfully.

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posted March 27, 2014 02:53 PM            

I'll see if I can't do the charts.

There's a whole other world of obstacles for those who are being denied - or have been denied - the right to marry. I can only surmise they're on the frontlines of this whole 'change our relationship paradigm' thingummy.

posted March 27, 2014 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I just got word that my stepdaughter's uncle will be marrying his fiancé on their 25th anniversary. That warms my heart like you wouldn't believe.

I'll see if I can't do the charts.

There's a whole other world of obstacles for those who are being denied - or have been denied - the right to marry. I can only surmise they're on the frontlines of this whole 'change our relationship paradigm' thingummy.

Anyhow, I wanted to share that.

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posted March 27, 2014 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Relieving. I've been having a nervous breakdown since last Saturday; you might say I'm on edge about EVERYTHING at the moment.

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Maybe it's the Cardinal Cross tightening.

tgem, you're welcome

I was reading Osho the other day and I read something that resonates with my thoughts about this subject: people forget to have patience. There would be no point to life if everything happened all at once and we drive ourselves crazy by wanting things to happen instantly. I am guilty of this, but in my better days, I remember that everything is as is should be and that this is the point to this journey on this lovely and sometimes lonely planet.

As for twinflames, I think that you know. Deep down in your heart, aside from synastries and hardship, aside from asteroids and heartache and misunderstandings, you just know.
And if you have to question it all the time, then... you also know.

posted March 27, 2014 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Maybe it's the Cardinal Cross tightening.

tgem, you're welcome

I was reading Osho the other day and I read something that resonates with my thoughts about this subject: people forget to have patience. There would be no point to life if everything happened all at once and we drive ourselves crazy by wanting things to happen instantly. I am guilty of this, but in my better days, I remember that everything is as is should be and that this is the point to this journey on this lovely and sometimes lonely planet.

As for twinflames, I think that [b]you know. Deep down in your heart, aside from synastries and hardship, aside from asteroids and heartache and misunderstandings, you just know.
And if you have to question it all the time, then... you also know.

Best of luck on your journeys! [/B]

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Actually that was one of the most amazing thing, to experience that the questions stop.
Not that I would positively say he IS my twinflame, it just somehow lost importance to know. Well, sure I am curious, but not really dependent on the answer anymore.
I have no doubt that he is in my life for a reason. What that reason is, I am excited to find out.

posted March 27, 2014 04:01 PM            

His Isis/Osiris midpoint is 21'53 Pisces.
My Isis/Osiris midpoint is 20'10 Pisces.

It's that famous Bear Hug u know

A DW semi-square (0,5 & 2,5)

Funny.

posted March 27, 2014 04:50 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Cusp and I have them exact quintile in our Helio composite but it's not found anywhere else..thankfully.

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Tristan and Isolda is strong for me natally, as TRISTAN is conjunct VESTA, Venus, STONEHENGE, KNIGHT, EVA and CHALDAEA

ISOLDA is conjunct my IC and opposing my Draco KARMA.

They are exactly square.

TRISTAN on 3 Cap, ISOLDA on 3 Aries.

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For him there is no such relevance with Tristan-Isolda as pairing, as they are not aspected.

However his TRISTAN is conjunct his ASC, PHOLUS, and also conjunct his STONEHENGE and CHALDAEA.

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Now luckily we do not have a Tristan-Isolda-aspect in tropical, however in the Draco:

my DR TRISTAN 23.33 Aries
my DR ISOLDA 23.01 Cancer

his Dr TRISTAN 21.06 Libra

See the Isolda-Tristan-square there?

Since it is taknig place in the Dracos it seems that we DID have this experience in a pst life line.

my tropical ISOLDA is also opposite his tropical KARMA exact
his Draco ISOLDA conjunct my Draco KARMA and my tropical 12th house ruler Pluto

The question is not if something like that happend, but where.

In our case it is very easy to determine.

TRISTAN-STONEHENGE in both natals? D `oh!
We also have IRELAND conjunct IRELAND under 2 degrees, falling into my 12th house and his 8th house.

my Draco TRISTAN opposite his Draco STONEHENGE exact (of course along our composite nodal axis, what else?)

his Draco TRISTAN opposite my Draco STONEHENGE exact

my Draco TRISTAN opposes his Draco TRISTAN
my Draco STONEHENGE opposes his Draco STONEHENGE

my Draco TRISTAN opposes his tropical Pluto
his Draco ISOLDA conjuncts my tropical pluto

my Draco IRELAND conjuncts his tropical ASC/TRISTAN/STONEHENGE/CHALDAEA/PHOLUS-conjunction

his Draco IRELAND opposes my tropical VESTA/TRISTAN/STONEHENGE/CHALDAEA/EVA/KNIGHT/SINDBAD and whatever else is there. lol

my tropical IRELAND and ATLANTIS conjunct his draco Chiron and Draco IRELAND (which are on its own too far for a conjunction though)

my tropical Chiron is fully hit as well:

my tropical Chiron: 20.02 Aries

my Dr TRISTAN 23.33 Aries
my Dr VESTA 21.13 Aries
my Dr STONEHENGE 21.49 Aries
my Dr CHALDAEA 24.14 Aries

his Dr TRISTAN 21.06 Libra
his Dr ASC 24.13 Libra
his Dr STONEHENGE 23.32 Libra
his Dr CHALDAEA 21.09 Libra

my tropical DNA on 20.20 Libra
and his tropical Pluto on 21.23 Libra

And THIS is what falls onto this axis in the composite

NOrth Node 20.46 Libra
CUPIDO 20.47 Libra
AMOR 20.36 Libra
CAMELOT 20.01 Libra
Mars 23.06 Libra

Dr EROS 23.54 LIbra
Dr Uranus 21.37 Aries

Since there isn`t really too much happening on the South NOde but everything concentrates on th North Node, it seems to be more future-oriented.

Maybe after the upheaval of a medieval or ancient English/ Irish past life, we deserve a bit of a relaxation period.

The sabian of 20 Libra (which is also my DNA):
A Sunday Crowd Enjoying The Beach

posted March 27, 2014 07:29 PM            

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Today, I completed writing Lesson 12 of my course, and I was explaining the importance of Aphrodite and JUNO. I wrote that their conjunction is very beneficial in Synastry/Composite.

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Again!

Our natal Juno/Aphrodite midpoints in the heliocentric sky are exactly conjunct, with about '15 minutes.

The angle between his Juno and my Aphrodite is 50 degrees.
The angle between my Juno and his Aphrodite is 50 degree.

but we have MANY of these "midpoint-to-midpoint alignments" (AND same phase angles: "mixed-midpoint alignments") between the same pairs of asteroids in the HELIO sky.

posted March 27, 2014 08:13 PM            

We do have DW Siva-Parvati aspects in our d-synastry:

His:
Siva @ 24 Gem 46
Parvati @ 27 Sag 44

Mine:
Siva @ 27 Pis 43
Parvati @ 24 Ari 20
Valentine @ 22 Gem 42

We have them squ. in the h-Composite

Isis and Osiris are also exactly semi-squ. in d-synastry, but I don't know if that aspect counts.

Also, his Osiris exactly conj. My Venus-AVx (with his Isis 4 degrees off) in the d-synastry. while my Osiris exactly conj. his IC (with my Asc about 2 degrees away) in t-synastry.

His Psyche conj. My Juno (exact), and sextile my Valentine (exact). Psyche and Eros conj. in the h-synastry.

Something else I noticed is that my Rudra conj. his Saturn-MC exact (this aspect sextile both our Chirons on each side as well) in d-synastry, while my Rudra conj. his Rudra-Karma (2) in the tropical.

@ Indigo, do you think it could be transits that are also messing with you right now?