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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 12, 2014 06:51 AM
Hi Lavender,welcome back. Some interesting things are in this thread, though it is not the answer to all and everything of course, just very inspiring.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 12, 2014 07:12 AM
Indigo," it's just 'fowst'. " It is how the name is spelled in Germany. "but I JUST noticed him then, and realised, he WAS cast in the role already. And I hadn't done it."
It wasn`t for you to decide, as it was already decided before. Not a choice by the intellectual mind. "I get angry there's no asteroid having anything to do with Fauste. 'Goethe' isn't enough for me. No Marlowe, either. But - chrissake! Faustus! Faust! It's not hard, people!" Yes, thought the same yesterday, when I was searching for one. Well, in the Goethe-drama Dr Faust`s first name is "Heinrich". (2943). Yes, I know TOO reaching, grasping for straws, I put it into Jude`s and my Davison nevertheless. HEINRICH on 8 Libra right on ATLANTIS and conjunct the IC-Pluto-PROSERPINA:
And THIS, THIS Is breaking my heart and gives me major goosebumps, though I sort of knew before WHERE it would fall in the composite.
So in the composite we have VALENTINE 17.01 Virgo VESTA 16.53 Pisces KARMA 18.01 Piscesa and HEINRICH? 17.45 Virgo, right on Valentine. lol It is falling nowwehere important in my composite with Mr SAg, which I used as control. lol And natally? HEINRICH conjunct my ASC (and therefore also ANGEL, ATLANTIS and NN. lol) HEINRICH 8.27 Sagittarius in my chart (same degree as my ATLANTIS). conjunct Jude`s name (using Judd though) in my chart by 3 degrees HEINRICH in his chart on 27 Gemini opposite my name in his chart on 29 Sagittarius in my Heinrich-Persona chart
my name 17 Leo Heinrich 16 Aquarius conjunct my natal Moon on 17 Aquarius (oh and his second name in my natal 19 Leo, his sec name in his natal 16 Aquarius) in his Heinrich Persona chart
Heinrich conjunct Valentine but not connected to any name asteroids. However MY name in this chart falls onto 16 Aquarius.
For a possibly unrelated asteroid, this seems to be quite a focused result. lol Whatever Heinrich really means, seems significant for us.
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Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 12, 2014 07:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Hi Lavender,welcome back. Some interesting things are in this thread, though it is not the answer to all and everything of course, just very inspiring.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002174.html
Thank you Ceri! Oh I remember that thread, very insightful info about Mercury/Hermes relating to kundalini In our composite we have.. Parvati on Can 11°35 Hermes on Cap 11°23 Uranus on Cap 12°04 They are also exactly linked via declinations. Helio composite:
H. Comp. Mercury trine Parvati 2° H. Comp. Mercury sextile Siva 1° H. Comp. Mercury quincunx Tara 0°
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tgem Knowflake Posts: 1660 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 12, 2014 08:41 AM
Cusp and me: Tropical composite: Mercury square Parvati 1' Tara semi-sextile Hermes 1' HERMES conjunct KAALI 3'Helio composite: HERMES conjunct KAALI 1' Mercury contra parallel Tara Mercury sesquisquare Kaali exact Tara semi square Hermes and Parvati 1' Hermes trine Siva 2' and square Parvati 1' Tropical synastry: His mercury square my Siva and contra parallel my Hermes His mercury sesquisquare my Hermes My Hermes square his Tara 1' My Hermes trine his Hermes 1' My Hermes contra parallel his Kaali My Kaali square his Tara 4' My Kaali trine his Hermes 4' My mercury sextile his Tara exact My mercury square his Hermes exact My Tara trine his Tara 4' IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1358 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 12, 2014 12:00 PM
Ceri.. I thought you might like this video from Cochrane. That's when I found out the significance of 'same phase angles'. They're not that easily to spot but I think it's really worth to have a focus on it .. an example (remember) is Chiron/Venus with your Sag. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfAZHfQ2yEs IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 12, 2014 12:20 PM
LOLMir, I think I posted the link to that video some weeks ago (at least it was highlighted as already seen by me). And yes, fascinating again. Not that easy to spot (for now - maybe just takes some time to get used to), and yes you remember it right his natal: Venus biseptile Chiron 0°49
my natal: Venus biseptile Chiron 1°03 mixed midpoints: his Venus/My Chiron:7°58 Pisces his Chiron/my Venus: 7°51 Pisces IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1358 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 12, 2014 01:18 PM
My connection with Cochrane is an exact Composite Saturn/Mercury (0'11) conjunction The result of an exact Saturn/Mercury square natally both. Ow and a Composite Sun/Venus conjunction at 1'57 .. yea I loveee him lol. And this ^^ allll in the 1st! IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2450 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 12, 2014 02:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan: Hello everyone, after a long time. How are you all? Man, this grand cross energy has been extremely intense... I've been thinking of what could be held responsible in a synastry that triggers one's kundalini/intense metaphysical experiences, as well as a heart awakening. Would it be something having to do with the outer planets aspecting the inner planets? Or any other asteroids prominent besides the obvious: Vesta BML Kaali Mahakala Siva Shankar Parvati Also, based on what we have discussed so far about graduate souls and TFs, is it now clear what in the chart would distinguish a TF from an ordinary soulmate? We should regather and reorganize the markers.
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I have also found that certain Indigo/Crystal/Starseed natal markings parallel to those of potential TwinFlame/one-soul beings' natals. Such as; planets/points on certain important fixed stars, important constellations outer planets aspecting inner planets, causing a high level of sensitivity (hence being open to higher energies, which would give one special abilities, such as: heightened intuition, clairvoyance, empathic abilities, healing abilities) having the twinflame couple asteroids making an aspect, or being prominent somehow having the signs Leo/Aquarius prominent or on an important axis having the signs Gemini/Sag prominent or on an important axis I'm sure there is more that I'm missing. What do you think of this?
Ohh, yes. Welcome back, Lavender! We've been BUSY. Heck, we might have a whole new method for you to explore, too! What'd you miss? Lessee ... Ahem. Lemme put on my best TV recap VO voice .... Last time on ... Twinflame Astrology on Lindaland ... Ceri continues the battle of Jude versus Mr Sag. Who will win? Who's the Twin Flame and who's the Guardian Soulmate? Decisions, decisions .... Though, she will be seeing Mr Sag performing soon, and that Cardinal across is promising a few fireworks ... Do the answers lie in the past-life recalls involving the three of them? Maybe her D60 can shed light on these karmic relationships ... tgem returned with a crushing blow: a handful of trusted psychics and empaths saying that Cusp isn't it. Even with sharing her heartfelt letter, his suspected betrayal of her trust has led to a lengthy period of estrangement which may not end anytime soon. But the astrology holds some intriguing clues. We're all pretty sure tgem is a Twin Flame, but that Cusp may not be - or simply isn't here. What's next? Despite Internet craziness, Michelle pops in to say things are going unusually well with New Guy, who we discussed somewhere around page 100. We're beginning to wonder what this makes Jace .... Morph stumbled upon her birth certificate - and found her time was off by an hour and a half! She's been reincorporating and reevaluating - as expected. And, of course, iQ dropped by to remind me that I've no escaping Fate. I might as well face it, he's my Twin Flame. Unconditional love is a good approach to take. But I've been delving into just what a Guardian Soulmate REALLY means on the Twin Flame / Graduate journey. As well as 'devising' a new cross-system method drawing from Jyotish and Tropical. Real 'East meets West' cooking here. That remains in development with some staggering revelations. Biggest personal hurdles? Accepting a spiritual destiny that impacts thousands - even millions, and the increasing likelihood that my Guardian Soulmate is also my killer from the most recent incarnation - maybe more. Thank goodness for unconditional love! :dramatic chord: I also shared a photo of my parents along with synastry. They'll have their 40th anniversary 8 June. We all 'aww'd'. I also found that one of my oldest soulsisters has a composite that mimics mine and Fate's. Are she and her girl Twin Flames? The jury's out. We've got a few new additions to the TFA family: Astro keen is in and out, LeeLoo has become a regular contributor, and Selene is sharing her insights. Some of their astrology is outstanding, but a couple of charts have been done. We determined high level Soulmates at first brush. Now we're evaluating likelihood of Guardian Soulship. The Guardian Soul thread is going, even if we're still spending 80% of our time here. Gabby has been swallowed by a black hole. We hope you're okay, Gabby! summerlite is in and out, as is Delilah. They've both shared fantastic insights from their relationships, though. We've definitely refined our methods and I updated the front page to reflect these findings. ... and that's what you missed on ... TWINFLAME ASTROLOGY! How'd I do? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 12, 2014 02:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: But the heavy karma ... that may be what's missing from Twin Flames. It's not that it's not there, but it's ... different. I'm not having to settle anything of THAT nature with Fate.
That is what had surprised me so much about Mr Sag. I am USED to that heavy feeling of Karma around someone I meet and who leaves an impact, used to have the urge to run away "before it`s too late and Ican`t turn back anymore". But with MR Sag? NOne of this. Actually in the early days I did a breath of relief telling myself. "Finally someone I donT have a soul/spiritual connection with. Finally someone without Karma."
It was becuase it was so unfamiliar to me, though as we know now noone else ever triggered such insane spiritual experiences like he does, and it seems like sometimes there is a very direct psychic link. And of course I can tick of all the boxes. LOL But the thing is, and even now, even after having recalled dying together, being entombed together (which gave me the feeling of oxygene going missing when I was watching Aida - and probably one of the reasons why I always tend to prefer seeing him open-air.lol). But even with that recall - and it should be totally traumatic - it doesn`t feel like it. It does not feel heavy, even with all the turmoil that might have been there in past lives (though I think they might not be as numerous as the ones I recall with Jude), despite all this, it all feels carefree, alright, light even. Not at all the heavy,pulling-me-under-undertow, not the tied-to-you-against-my-will-and-better-knowledge kind of feeling. Just this pull because, just because. No reason really, just him. And it startled me almost, but before we met that night, after seeing his performance as Jesus, usually there is this feeling of wanting to run away. With him, there is always the feeling, the instinct to run TO him, not away. As a matter of fact, leaving the audience, the theater, the location, putting more distance between us, it feels more and more difficult. I remember when I left the theatre after seeing Aida, I got that feeling like I do in these astral dreams, when it feels like you are wading through some heavy, slowing you down-fog, a feeling as if walking away, is the wrong direction. lol Whenever I see him, my first instinct (that I have very strictly under control) is to run up to him and hug him. And I never feel like that. Hormones. Probably. With Jude, seeing him, it is a magical feeling, oh most certainly, in a calm unexcited way actually. Never feeling giddy about him. There is also something very natural seeing him. Even the first time, it should have felt surreal. It never does.
Though sometimes it is strange, I remember that during the Anna Christie-performance, there was the interval, and my friend asked me what was wrong with me, and I said to her: "I already miss him" I had seen and sensed him just 5 minutes ago, and would so in 10 minutes from then, and still during THAT time, in the interval I was missing him. Insanity, I tell you. But somehow in that very unexcited manner. Not manic, as I would have expected. In a way, and it seems strange, I feel like I am there still, in London, I am still there at the theatre, still seeing him on stage, it is like a parallel thing that is happening, maybe we have seen it just a few times too often.
But as much as I respect and admire him as an actor, as much as I feel a resonance, and agree with his opinions on education, and feeling almost relieved to know he is just a flawed human being like everyone else, but all that normality-stuff aside, all that celebrity-stuff aside, on a level I have always been very cautious to not let him too close to me (internally - I am of course just talking internally, only important for me), because there is the feeling that we could destroy each other, being perfectly sane on our own, I can`t fight that feeling, that if you put us together and if things would go just a tiny little bit lopsided, we would perfectly be able to kill each other. This is overdramatizing of course, not literally, it is just an emotional imprint, a shadow of a feeling really, just barely nothing, and certainly no realness to it, but it is there, just a little pinch of that, a notion of a certain destructiveness. I suppose though that is just the karmic imprint. I actually had a series of past life recalls involving him (well there were many, and most involved a war of some kind), but these were, well I did n want to have them, I even was screaming and kicking within the dream to not be pulled intot hat "movie in my mind". But as I said, not one, several ones. And in these I was in a concentration camp in Brno (waking up I thought my brain had go mumbly-jumbly, can`t be a real place, can it? turned out not only it IS a real place, but there WAS a concentration camp, and the building looked like in my dream, and many many months later a story got published, well I had to do a lot of digging. lol, that resembled mine too creepily, just that it had not been on the internet or somewhere else when I had my dream, so it was not that I was influenced by something I had read). Anyway I was there, and actually the one I called my guardian soulmate played a peripheral role, too, as my friend and mentor in this environement, and Jude was well, prison guard. And itw asn`t pretty, though at the same time it was not as easy and black and white as I would prefer it to be. Stockholm syndrome maybe? Even if nothing of it really was a real past life recall, if THAT is how my subconscious sees Jude, as some kind of bipolar prisonguard, THEN I should stay far far away from him, best leave a few oceans between us. lol
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 12, 2014 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: How'd I do?
Ah I LOVE your style. THIS could really make some TF-Drama!
I wanted to write TV-drama, but TF-drama seems just as apt.
And not really a fight in my case, is it? It is not my decision anyway.
But you reminded me of something. Actually when I was writing so much about Jude on here, the musical radio played the song from "Artus-Excalibur", when ARtus loses it, thinking Guinevere has cheated on him with Lancelot, and tries to kill both of them in a fit of jealousy, but instead just bans them from court.
Reminded me of how Mr Sag`s ARTHUR conjuncts my GUINEVERE, and Jude`s LANCELOT Opposes it. I just can`t get over this single aspect (and tight, too, 1 degre=).
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 12, 2014 04:35 PM
You gave me quite a Hercules-task there! D60 chart.So far I only checked for our respectie individual D60 charts Mine -------- 1) DESC on 1 Sag conjunct KARMA On 00 Sag, trine PSYCHE on 2 Aries sextile EROS on 29 Virgo trine CHIRON on 2 Leo
So, not only do I have a loose Eros-Psyche-opposition there (2°38 - not THAT loose), but it happens to fall near the AP AND it is tried to the DESC-KARMA conjunction, which coincidentally falls onto my natal AMOR on 2 Sag in 12th house I suppose, and also conj. VALENTINE on 27 Scorpio (seems to be right on the AMOR/VALENTINE-mp).
Of course this comes together with a GT of KARMA(DESC)-PSYCHE-CHIRON, which actually is a Kite, as EROS opposes PSYCHE, though it is a bit wide for the Chiron-sextile. Still oh and Mercury is on the ASC 2 Gemini, and actually Pluto is also opposing PSYCHE, but too far for conjuncting EROS (Pluto on 4 LIbra on my natal MC exact and Draco KARMA. lol) So to summarize, we have TWO Kites here. To make that a STar of David or Seal of Solomon, there would need to be something on the early degrees of Aquarius 00-05 degrees roundabout. My Moon is at 6 Aquarius, but it is a bit too far off. the really early degrees would be better. Somehow, at this juncture, we already KNOW that one or both gentlemen will have something there, right?
(as a matter of fact both have Mars there, Jude on 1 Aquarius, Patrick on 5 Aquarius; Jude fits intree there. Though Patrick`s Mars there fits better in another respect). Anyway so for me personally Desc-KARMA, PSYCHE, EROS, Chiron, Pluto, Mercury (natal DESc-ruler). I get the feeling, if that is my Karma chart (is it, Indigo? the D 60?), I knew love; Psyche starts the cycle, being the first planet crossing 00 Aries, EROS has not yet crossed the Libra-point, just shortly before, so maybe while I knew love, I didn΄t quite know passion or the consummation of passion, it was there, almost to touch, but just a bit out of reach yet. And with Chiron-Karma-Pluto involved, I most probably also know vulenerability and defencelessness and being subject to power (Pluto opposes PSYCHE).
Sabians are: KARMA 00 Sag Retired Army Veterans Gather To Reawaken Old Memories The story did not start there, it continued from an even earlier time. DESC 01 Sag White-capped Waves Display The Power Of Wind Over Sea Whipped up feelings.
ASC 01 Gemini Santa Claus Furtively Filling Stockings Hanging In Front Of Fireplace
Mercury 02 Gem The Garden Of The Tuileries In Paris PSYCHE 02 Aries The Cameo Profile Of A Man, Suggesting The Shape Of His Country
EROS Totally Intent Upon Completing An Immediate Task, A Man Is Deaf To Any Allurement Pluto A Man Revealing To His Students The Foundation Of An Inner Knowledge Upon Which A "New World" Could Be Built Chiron A Middle-Aged Woman, Her Long Hair Flowing Over Her Shoulders And In A Braless Youthful Garment
(2) Venus on 7 Aries opposite Pluto on 4 Libra (of course theVenus-Pluto had to be there again) Venus trine AMOR 8 Leo Pluto trine Moon 6 Aquarius (and MOon opp. Amor of course) Venus-Moon-Amor-Pluto Another hint at the emotionality of my karma? Venus 7 Aries A Large Woman's Hat With Streamers Blown By An East Wind Moon 6 Aquarius A Child Is Seen Being Born Out Of An Egg Amor 8 Leo Glass Blowers Shape Beautiful Vases With Their Controlled Breathing
I get the feeling there was a lot of "creating" going on, maybe to the point where other things seemed to lose impact and meaning.
3) Uranus on 21 Gemini conjunct VESTA on 22 gemini (can`t escape the Uranus-Vesta - in the natal they are exactly sextile) Uranus Dancing Couples In A Harvest Festival Vesta Three Fledglings In A Nest High In A Tree THREE????? (4) Saturn on 27 Cap conjunct JUno and MC both on 28 Cap, opposite Sun on 26 Cancer
Sun also trines Neptune on 26 Scorpio Saturn A Large Aviary Juno and MC A Woman Reading Tea Leaves Sun A Violent Storm in A Canyon Filled With Expensive Homes Neptune A Military Band Marches Noisily On Through The City Streets (4) VALENTINE on 2 Scorpio square CHiron on 2 Leo (and quinkunx Psyche and ASC, making the apex of a Yod.)
2 Scorpio A House-Raising Party In A Small Village Enlists The Neighbors' Cooperation So exact Valentine-Chiron-square? Just been thinking of this song here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRJaZdodEgI
With the Sabian for Valentine - too many people involved and having their say?
Not much going on with LANCELOT and GUINEVERE
though having said that GUINEVERE on 17 Sagittarius opposes my natal KARMA on 16 Gem. LANCELOT on 17 Capricorn The Union Jack Flag Files From A British Warship opposing my natal Saturn, conjunct Jude`s NN-Jupiter-Shakespeare-Destinn-conjunction. lol
and then there is ARTHUR on 6 SCorpio Deep-Sea Divers
loosely conjunct VALENTINE (3°20) squaring Moon on 6 Aqua exact squaring AMOR on 8 Leo Lastly NESSUS On 12 Sag A Widow's Past Is Brought To Light but at least it is sextile Jupiter on 12 Aquarius Just with THAT Sabian: A Barometer the sextile does not look too nice even. DEJA on 10 Taurus exactly squares Mars on 10 Aquarius and squares AMOR on 8 Leo of course. And ΑLREADY I am anticipating that at least one of the gentlemen will have something not so nice on about 10 Scorpio probably. lol
Deja A Woman Watering Flowers In Her Garden.
Mars During A Silent Hour, A Man Receives A New Inspiration Which May Change His Life Dejanira-Mars in a square aspects looks a bit like victimization to me, not as insidious as Nessus-Deja, but not really all that nice. Maybe the victimization here could be due to social idealizations (Mars in Aquarius) taking away from a more personal Venusian relationship (Deja is in taurus after all).
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posted April 12, 2014 04:37 PM
Jude`s D60 ------------0ASC on 6 Libra DESC on 6 Aries conj. Neptune 8 Aries and square Sun 7 Cancer (on his natal Valentine and opp. his natal Sun) ASC A Woman Feeding Chickens And Protecting Them From The Hawks DSC A Man Succeeds In Expressing Himself Simultaneously In Two Realms Neptune A Crystal Gazer
Sun A Group Of Rabbits Dressed in Human Clothes Walk As If On Parade
The Sun-Sabian is a very sexual one (at least I read that somewhere), it seems to get in conflict with the more protective oriented one of the ASC
KARMA on 00 Leo conj. EROS on 2 Leo conjunct JUNO on 3 Leo (yes, I already noticed that I have read the early degrees of Leo before, in MY D60 Chart, what was it again, being there, Chiron? squaring Valentine? Could it be that somehow MY wounds are connected to HIS erotic marriage karma? anyway KARMA here suqares Saturn on 29 Libra opposies Mars on 1 Aquarius square VALENTINBE on 28 Aries also includes Saturn opposite VALENTINE Saturn square Mars Mars square VALENTINE. Can it bet there has been a "bit" of a problem expressing or manifesting or just balancing out love, relationship, sex and a certain task at hand? This Saturn there - it just looks like it put a serious block or damper on expressing love. And with Mars-square Valentine, it might not even have been love, but looks more like lust to be honest. KARMA Blood Rushes To A Man's Head As His Vital Energies Are Mobilized Under The Spur Of Ambition
looks like quite a temper, and also a bit aggressive right there, but most of all ambitious EROS A Middle-Aged Woman, Her Long Hair Flowing Over Her Shoulders And In A Braless Youthful Garment JUNO A Formally Dressed Elderly Man Stands Near Trophies He Brought Back From A Hunting Expedition A trophy-wife??? Saturn Three Mounds Of Knowledge On A Philosopher's Head Valentine The Music Of The Spheres That is such a beautiful sabian Mars An Unexpected Thunderstorm
A temper, aggressive behaviour in terms of ambitions, and maybe also sexual attractions might have proved a problem, striking unexpectedly but strongly and challenging his control?
NN on 20 Cap conjunct PSYCHE on 21 Cap, trine CHIRON on 21 Taurus
This one looks nicer, though of course on the NN it could also mean that he was MEANT to develop more sensitivity or intuition. Did he manage to do so? NN A Relay Race
Psyche By Accepting Defeat Gracefully, A General Reveals Nobility Of Character Chiron White Dove Flying Over Troubled Waters There was probably vulnerability that could have led to healing talent through compassion (interestngly I also have a Chiron-Psyche-trine)
Moon on 25 Scorpio sextile AMOR on 26 Cap (nice) and square VESTA on 24 Leo (not so nice) Moon American Indians Making Camp After Moving Into A New Territory
Amor Pilgrims Climbing The Steep Steps Leading To A Mountain Shrine VESTA A Large Camel Is Seen Crossing A Vast And Forbidding Desert
Quite a journey right there. Exhausting. Immigrating somewhere. But also it seems like it might have clashed with the more egocentric urges and ambitions.
ARTHUR on 11 Cancer trine NESSUS on 11 Scorpio and opposite URaus on 10 Cap
(this is in so far even more important, as my GUINEVERE in natal is 10 Cap, Patrick?s Arthur on 11 Cap, Jude`s Lancelot on 10 Cancer). 11 Cancer A Chinese Woman Nursing A Baby Whose Aura Reveals Him To Be The Reincarnation Of A Great Teacher 10 Cap A Large Group Of Pheasant On A Private Estate GUINEVERE on 13 Leo squares NESSUS on 11 Scorpio That is quite a thing, right? Guinevere A Human Soul Seeking Opportunities For Outward Manifestation NESSUS An Official Embassy Ball Looks like social expectations or restraints or ambitions did their part there.
LANCELOT on 2 Cap quinkunx Venus on 3 Geminie and quinkunx EROS and JUNO on 2/ 3 Leo.
Lancelot A Human Soul, In Its Eagerness For New Experiences, Seeks Embodiment
Venus Holly And Mistletoe Reawaken Old Memories Of Christmas ERos A Middle-Aged Woman, Her Long Hair Flowing Over Her Shoulders And In A Braless Youthful Garment Juno A Formally Dressed Elderly Man Stands Near Trophies He Brought Back From A Hunting Expedition Adding to that DEJANIRA on 27 Aquarius not only sextiles VALENTINE and trines Saturn, but opposes VESTA and squares Moon. DEjanira-Moon-VEsta in T-square; something was quite off with the feminine principle Dejanira is on the same degree as my natal Nefertiti (and close to Lilith), and I associate the Sabian with "sacrifice" for some reason. Sacrificing something (like personal happiness, fulfllment, growth, love, whatever) or someone for a greater good (or one that is perceived as such). "A Tree Felled And Sawed To Ensure A Supply Of Wood For The Winter" IP: Logged |
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posted April 12, 2014 05:45 PM
Patrick`s D60 ------------------ASC on 7 Cancer conjunct VALENTINE on 5 Cancer ASc A Group Of Rabbits Dressed in Human Clothes Walk As If On Parade VAL Game Birds Feathering Their Nests (right on my natal EXCALIBUR btw)
So it seems like love was part of his idenity or least his Karma, and there seems to have been a combination of sexual manifestation and the wish to, well, for commitment I suppose, to build something lasting for the future.
it trines JUNO on 9 Scorpio A Fellowship Supper Reunites Old Comrades
also trines GUINEVERE on 4 Scorpio and Chiron on 5 Sorpio
Guinevere A Massive Rocky Shore Resist The Pounding Of The Sea Chiron The Gold Rush Tears Men Away From Their Native Soil Definitely noteworthy that Guinevere appears tied to Chiron here. A wound connected to Guinevere?
There is also a T-square of DESC 7 Cap conjunct Moon 9 Cap and squaring NESSUS on 7 Aries DESC In A Sunlit Home Domesticated Birds Sing Joyously
Moon An Albatross Feeding From The Hand Of A Sailor #Nessus A Large Woman's Hat With Streamers Blown By An East Wind With the Moon-DESC, and the ASC-VAlentine in Cancer and the Sabians involved here, it just looked so nice, homely, comfy, but with the Nessus square, that looks definitely not that nice. Obsessive? Maybe obsessing too much about home and family and family background even national background, which eventually would poison the very thing he was striving to accomplish or receive? Moon-Nessus of course could also relate to emotional abuse.
Sun on 27 Virgo conjunct VESTA on 29 Virgo Sun: A Baldheaded Man Who Has Seized Power VESTA: Totally Intent Upon Completing An Immediate Task, A Man Is Deaf To Any Allurement It is rather isolated from the rest of the chart, but it evokes the image of a man in a position of power, who is so focused on his goal, that he starts becoming blind to other things around him, possibly.
------------------------------ Pluto conjuncts MErcury on 23 Libra exact trine Uranus on 24 Aquarius trine NN on 22 Gemini squares Veus on 25 Cancer
Well, again, enus-Pluto-square like the one he has in natal. Pluto-Mercury A Butterfly With A Third Wing On Its Left Side
Uranus A Butterfly With The Right Wing More Perfectly Formed NN Three Fledglings In A Nest High In A Tree
Venus Guests Are Reading In The Library Of A Luxurious Home
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ARTHUR on 10 Pisces opposite Saturn on 12 Virgo trine JUNO on 9 Scorpio sextile Moon on 9 Capricorn ARthur Men Traveling A Narrow Path, Seeking Illumination
Saturn A Powerful Statesman Overcomes A State Of Political Hysteria Juno A Fellowship Supper Reunites Old Comrades Moon An Albatross Feeding From The Hand Of A Sailor Okay, again a Sabian dealing with political power, but at the same time the Arthur Sabian shwoing he was walking a fine line, definitely rather karmic. But supported by Juno and Moon, a harmonious connection to the feminine, supportive and protective.
GUINEVERE on 4 Scorpio conjunct CHIRON on 5 Scorpio trine VALENTINE on 5 Cancer
no comment. but at the same time also squares the conjunction of Mars on 5 Aquarius and LANCELOT on 6 Aquarius (this really gave me goosebumps)
Mars A Masked Figure Performs Ritualistic Acts In A Mystery Play
Lancelot A Child Is Seen Being Born Out Of An Egg --------------------------------
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 12, 2014 05:54 PM
Gosh, just noticed in D 60 chartPatrick`s ISOLDA: 11 Scorpio my TRISTAN: 13 Scorpio Jude`s NESSUS: 11 Scorpio IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 12, 2014 05:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Ah I LOVE your style. THIS could really make some TF-Drama!
I agree Indigo! Thanks for the summary! Question though, can D60 charts be calculated on astro.com? Can I use the harmonic chart in its place? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 12, 2014 06:04 PM
that is how I did it, LC. IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 12, 2014 06:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: that is how I did it, LC.
Ok, I'm to going to go have a look at mine and Virgo guy's. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 12, 2014 06:39 PM
Okay, starting from the individual patterns I found, I was looking for mirrored aspects:Jude and me ------------ 1) Me: KARMA sextile EROS 1.27 Him: his KARMA conjunct EROS 2.03 his KARMA trine PSYCHE 1.11 2) me: Chiron trine PSYCHE 0.09 him: Chiron trine PSYCHE 0.56 3) me: Moon opsoite AMOR 1.37 him: Moon sextile AMOR 1.23 4) me: Sun trine Neptune 0.47 him: Sun square Neptune 0.46 Patrick and me ---------------- 1) me: Pluto trine Mercury 1.57 him: Pluto conjunct Mercury 0.11
2) me: Pluto opp. Venus 2.40 him: Pluto square Venus 2.12 3) Me: Saturn conjunct JUNO 0.45 him: Saturn sextile JUNO 2.59 4) me: VALENTINE square Chiron 0.28 him: VALENTINE trine Chiron 0.04 --------------------------------
as for the Arthurians. Me: ARTHUR conjunct VALENTINE 3.20 Jude: GUINEVERE square NESSUS 2.37 Patrick: GUINEVERE trine VALENTINE 1.36 IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2450 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 13, 2014 03:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Selene: In D60My Sun conjuncts his Neptune 1,5 My Sun conjuncts his Pluto EXACT My Moon conjuncts his Neptune 3 My Venus conjuncts his Vertex EXACT My Mars opposite his Chiron EXACT My Uranus conjuncts his Sun EXACT My Neptune conjuncts his Sun 2,5
Don't you love the exactitude? That's the best part, I think. So much conveyed SO quickly, and SO easily due to the glaring specificity and super close orbs. IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 727 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted April 13, 2014 05:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Don't you love the exactitude? That's the best part, I think. So much conveyed SO quickly, and SO easily due to the glaring specificity and super close orbs.
Yes, especially in the D30 chart, where the exactness is even more striking.
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IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2450 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 13, 2014 05:04 AM
Regarding your theories, Lavender, I'll just go ahead and share what I know off the top of my head at this moment. According to iQ, I have many of the markers you've suggested which indicate high-level souls - Indigo, as well as what he determines as Twin Flame. (My aura is actually Indigo with Violet and a Red Overlay - which I'm working through, slowly.) He's also told me that Fate and I are 'extraordinarily young in Earth years', for being so old in general terms of existence. I'm taking this to mean extraterrestrial origins, but what, no specifics have been offered. I have in my basic geo-tropical natal: SUN-FORTUNA (0°) conjunct PLUTO-BML on SPICA (2°) SUN sextile NEPTUNE (1°) SUN trine PSYCHE (1°) PSYCHE opposite NEPTUNE (0°) MOON conjunct URANUS (1°) SUN sextile VESTA (0°25) NEPTUNE trine VESTA (1°) ANGEL-MOON (1°) sextile AMOR (1°) UNION conjunct MERCURY (0°) MOON sextile JUPITER (2°) MOON on MARSIK URANUS on ZUBEN ELAKRAB MC on ALDEBARAN VENUS-ASC on ZOSMA MERCURY on ZUBEN ELAKRIBI MARS on KORNEPHOROS NEPTUNE on ATRIA PSYCHE on PHACT EROS on ACRUX VERTEX on ALTAIR VALENTINE on RAS ALGETHI and GRAFIAS I have near conjunctions of a couple of prominent soul pairings: ISIS (on REGULUS) and OSIRIS (on TANIA BOREALIS) in LEO (8°); SIVA and PARVATI are 12° apart in CAN (on ALHENA and POLLUX); KAALI (on RUBKAT and SHELIAK) are sextile RUDRA (1°50) on ANKAA. JUNO trine ZEUS (2°) I also have: KAALI square SUN (2°) INNANEN conjunct SUN (3°) SIVA square SUN (1°) OSIRIS conjunct NNODE (0°40) OSIRIS-NNODE conjunct VESTA (1°) PARVATI sextile VENUS (1°) KAALI opposite HERA (1°) JUNO conjunct PERSEPHONE (1°) JUNO conjunct SATURN (2°) ADONIS opposite APHRODITE (1°) PALLAS conjunct PROSERPINA (1°) PSYCHE conjunct AURA (2°) NEPTUNE opposite AURA (2°) PLUTO opposite ANUBIS (2°) ANGEL sextile JUPITER (2°) and NNODE in LEO / SNODE in AQU VERTEX in AQU / AVX in LEO ISIS and OSIRIS in LEO VESTA in LEO TYCHE in AQU MC in GEM / IC in SAG NEPTUNE in SAG VALENTINE in SAG PSYCHE in GEM AURA in GEM I'll have to look up the rest tomorrow, which I'll do gladly. Great theories and hypotheses! IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 727 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted April 13, 2014 05:19 AM
Oh, crap! It turns out that he messed up his birthtime the first time he told me it. He mixed it up with his brother's time, and now finally found out from his mom, that the time was another. It messes up. But maybe gets even more interesting. My Neptune therefore isn't on his DSC. But this new birth time makes his ASC 5'11 Leo, and that is exactly conjunct my South Node on 4'21. Makes sense, since his nodes are also conjunct my nodes, just MC/IC instead of AC/DC. This also changes the house positions, my stellium of Sun-Venus-Mercury falls in his 4th house instead of 5th. But also my Moon and Jupiter in his 1st, near his ASC, though not conjunct (Jupiter 5 degrees from his ASC, Moon degrees). That explains the emotional rapport and the fact that we are so close as friends, despite the fact that his Moon is mostly unaspected in synastry, except for an exact quintile to my Pluto and an opposition to Chiron). These changes also gives a full 5th house in composite, with Venus-Uranus-Saturn-Neptune-Sun in there. And what's really fascinating, it gives us IC that falls exactly on that Moon-Pluto conjunction of ours (exactly on Moon, 3 degrees from Pluto). And i think what's really important as well, this birth time makes his ASC Leo, instead of Cancer - that means his DSC is Aquarius. Thus Uranus is the ruler of his DSC, and by a chance - THE theme planet in our synastry, which makes a ton of exact aspects. Also his Chart ruler Sun is exactly squared by my Uranus, and we met when transit Uranus was exactly on his Sun and exactly squared my Uranus.
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Selene Knowflake Posts: 727 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted April 13, 2014 05:24 AM
what do you think would composite IC exactly conjunct Moon (conjunct Pluto) mean? (they both fall in 4th house) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 13, 2014 06:29 AM
So of the patterns I noted individually we have these degrees covered: Mine ------- 1st pattern
ASC 01 Gem MErcury 02 Gem DESC 01 Sag KARMA 00 Sag PSYCHE 02 Aries EROS 29Virgo CHIRON 02 Leo VALENTINE 02 Scorpio 2nd pattern:
Venus 07 Aries Pluto 04 Libra AMOR 08 Leo Moon 06 Leo ARTHUR 06 Scorpio 3rd pattern: Uranus 21 Gem VESTA 22 Gem
4th pattern: Saturn 27 cap JUNO 28 Cap MC 28 Cap EROS 29 Virgo Sun 26 Cancer Neptune 26 Scorpio 5th pattern: GUINEVERE 17 Sag LANCELOT 17 Cap 6th pattern: NESSUS 12 Sag Jupiter 12 Aquarius
7th pattern: DEJA 10 Taurus Mars 10 Aquarius NN 09 Sag
Jude`s patterns ------------------ 1st pattern: ASC 6 Libra DESC 6 Aries Neptune 8 Aries Sun 7 Cancer Mercury 6 Virgo 2nd pattern: KARMA 00 Leo EROS 02 Leo JUNO 03 Lleo
Saturn 29 Libra Mars 1 Aquarius VALENTINE 28 Aries 3rd pattern: NN 20 Cap PSYCHE 21 Cap Chiron 21 Taurus
4th pattern: Moon 25 Scorpio AMOR 26 Cap VESTA 24 Leo Pluto 24 Sag (DEJA 27 Aqua)
5th pattern: ARTHUR 11 Cancer NESSUS 11 Scorpio Uranus 10 Cap
6th patternb: NESSUS 11 Scorpio GUINEVERE 13 Leo
7th pattern: LANCELOT 2 Cap
Venus 3 Gemini EROS 2 Leo JUNO 3 Leo (maybe could be counted to the large Karma-one as well) Patrick`s pattern in D60 --------------------------- 1st pattern ASC 7 Cancer VALENTINE 5 Cancer GUINEVERE 4 Scorpio Chiron 5 Scorpio plus JUNO 9 Scorpio (only ASC) Moon 9 Cap (only ASC) NESSUS 7 Aries Mars 5 Aqua LANCELOT 6 Aquarius 2nd pattern: Sun 27 Virgo VESTA 29 Virgo
3rd pattern: Pluto 23 Libra Mercury 23 Libra Uranus 24 Aqua NN 22 Gemini Venus 25 Cancer
4th pattern: ARTHUR 10 Pisces Saturn 12 Virgo JUNO 09 Scorpio Moon 9 Cap
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Selene Knowflake Posts: 727 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted April 13, 2014 06:50 AM
Oh yes, i love patterns! We have a pattern of Diamond. My Mars Gemini 14'07 My Moon Leo 13'24 My Venus Libra 14'24 His Uranus Saggitarius 13'32 His Venus Pisces 14'34 My ASC Virgo 13
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