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IndigoDirae
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posted February 07, 2014 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goodness, Crystal. That's quite the ordeal your friend's been through. I have my own theories regarding the lengths to which certain agencies and governments will go, but as much of it has proven too entwined with privileged information, I'll keep it off-board.

Digital security is sadly a fire-with-fire game. I've a decent background there and more friends than enemies. It's served me well. Even the independent can protect themselves from corporate hacking. It's less about expensive protocols than knowledge and skill.

Something you've mentioned which gets me.

Of course, in the real world, it's not a 'game over' type deal as it is when deriving fiction. As my project (which focusses on the Twinflame phenomenon, though subtly) originated as a collaborative storytelling venture, simply put, a game, if one of the types most representative of a Twinflame were to die, it was basically an end-of-story.

See, to my understanding, in that dream, the one that began it all in '05, they were indeed trying to reconnect with each other, and being secretly hunted whilst doing so. (Probably why when I awoke, it seemed a bang-up story premise.)

So when the project launched, drawing just the right writers as I'd hoped it would (as to how, that's just luck - or destiny) we had the good and bad forces opposed, as it were.

Your friend's situation is similar to one of those plots, except on the 'this must be prevented' side. I'd think, by logic alone, very awful things would result from a Twinflame dying before they're able to reunite and succeed in their mission.

Granted, I think like a writer, and I'm not saying all Twinflames are protected by greater forces to that degree - though I've been stunned in many cases.

In the story, losing any of the Twelve is an automatic failure. That's why they're striving so desperately to find the others and protect them - before the opposing forces do.

And, according to Mel and Nichole, it's 24. But I suspect the numbers to be a bit larger, even if they're not Graduates. I feel some returned in another capacity who hadn't yet completed the journey, so to speak, and will gain powerful experiences in terms of their own evolution because of that assistance.

But that's a topic for later.

In the event a Twinflame dies, what does that mean for the rest? I certainly hope you're not going to say there ARE such malicious forces out there who are counter-positioned in regards to the Twinflames and their mission. That's too Hollywood - even for me! Who wouldn't want to evolve? And isn't THAT hard enough without 'baddies' complicating the whole deal? Heh.

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posted February 07, 2014 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If her work is public, what's the name it's published under? Also, how did you two meet? You said that you found her through her blog and book. I'm curious how you two became friends?

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posted February 08, 2014 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing that (your dream experience) with us, IndigoDirae. Beautifully articulated...you are definitely a talented writer. Sorry to hear about the recent events though, I hope everything works out for you.

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posted February 08, 2014 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh.

Well, that's quite a story. Thank you for sharing it.

I'd say that she fits the 'basic features' of a Graduate soul, but the MJ connexion is giving me pause.

Did they ever actually meet?

I can certainly relate to her dedication regarding music - well, all art. I'm multi-talented in that regard as well. I was very young, too. Natural talent far beyond my years vocally. I never quite grasped it until I was considerably older. I only got my voice to the quality I deem professional at age 28, once I'd developed my belt. Now I'm a dramatic coloratura soprano. My producer is helping me to develop a soulfulness. I've always been extremely versatile, but he (a British soul singer) felt that was missing. So we're working on it.

I've often wondered if that's another feature. That kind of natural multi-talent in art. I started out doing everything. I finally had to narrow it somewhat. So I'm a terrible sketcher, painter, and my drawing in general is deplorable. 😜

Incidentally, my mother was absolutely crushed when Michael passed. She's a very experienced metaphysician / psychic, and couldn't understand why it hit her so hard. She kept saying he was always such a rare and beautiful soul, and she was so sad he was gone.

My father was his master electrician for the Dangerous tour, so my parents both spent time with Michael. My father was naturally saddened by his loss, but my mother ... I'll never forget how much she cried, so inexplicably.

Does she really believe that she's an incarnation of Isis? That also strikes me as over the top.

I have a difficult time following some of these stories or alleged experiences when they aren't supported on both sides. Not to offend you. I suppose I have my own theories of Twinflames / Graduates, and those who are here with them to assist in their mission. I'm always sceptical of the more sensationalist stories. I suppose my own can get rather out there, but I never attest anything by them. I'm simply sharing this or that thing, unless it's an actual experience or memory. Those are rather straightforward, though.

But I DO appreciate your sharing.

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posted February 08, 2014 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
Thanks for sharing that (your dream experience) with us, IndigoDirae. Beautifully articulated...you are definitely a talented writer. Sorry to hear about the recent events though, I hope everything works out for you.

Thanks, Morp. I really appreciate that. It's hard out here, and knowing that I'm reaching people means everything to me. I was very compelled to share that; I'm not sure why. It felt ... important.

I'm hoping that he, the author of this derived work, shall we say, will work with me. I'm hoping Fate will eagerly pick back up where we left off, too. I'm in the process of restarting with the medium with which we began. It feels right to me. Full circle - before continuing on to TV. Later.

It's such an incredible story, really, how we've all come together, and how many of us still are. How those friendships continued beyond the work. Though we loved the work, it became clear. So many of us love each other, too. And that's truly amazing.

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posted February 08, 2014 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

In fact she's been in contact with Mel and Nichole as well, and she's been a confirmed tf by them.

After looking at those links, and then reading this...I'm sorry, but I can't help but be a bit disturbed...And not in a good way...

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posted February 08, 2014 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've often wondered if that's another feature. That kind of natural multi-talent in art. I started out doing everything. I finally had to narrow it somewhat. So I'm a terrible sketcher, painter, and my drawing in general is deplorable. 😜


Yes, multi-talented, but with me it is in both the sciences and in the arts (and even athletics). With art, it's music, fine art, and film. The fine art is what shines the most, and it was good enough that I made money off of it when I was a kid. Unfortunately, circumstances made it difficult to truly develop many of these talents (Life is a battle field)...But, I haven't given up...Actually, it is my DC who has inspired me to continue building and nurturing these gifts, among many other things.

With science, it's biology/medicine/engineering/physics. I was also into wildlife rescue/rehabilitation and conservation from a young age and felt that this was a large part of my mission in life (in addition to assisting/healing people and putting out messages...).


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Why are you disturbed?

Because it's apparent that that is contrived, and if Mel & Nichole did in fact confirm that as a "tf" connection (as she says they did), it just causes me to question some things...

Please, be careful...You must be discerning when it comes to these types of things...

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Because it's apparent that that is contrived, and if Mel & Nichole did in fact confirm that as a "tf" connection (as she says they did), it just causes me to questions some things...

Please, be careful...You must be discerning when it comes to these types of things...


Hmm... I don't know.
I just feel she is being real and open.

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posted February 08, 2014 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread is fascinating and taking me forever to read (still on page 3!). I always felt soulmates were people who teach us lessons in life, with whom we can develop knowledge about ourselves and assist us in our spiritual progression through life. They may be fleeting associations, or long relationships, they may last a week or a lifetime, but their purpose is to enable us to learn life's lessons and apply them to our personal development. There is the danger they can confused with romantic love, and indeed they also might involve genuine romantic love. That is something we usually find out in retrospect as we look back on the meaning of our association with that person. We can also have many soulmates in a lifetime.

With Twin flames, I think it's like you're stuck with them, for better or for worse. They might not necessarily be good for you, perhaps they mirror our strengths and weaknesses, but there is something profound that draws you together than you cannot control or explain. They hold a significance in our lives on a more subconscious, intimate level than soulmates can provide. Soulmates have understanding and compassion, twinflames not necessarily so.

Just my first feelings anyway. I need to do further study.

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posted February 08, 2014 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay. I have to share this.

So, two years ago, one of Fate's friends returned here to LA. Now his best friend, (okay, his best male friend; you know how that is) just announced that he and his girlfriend are moving to NoHo.

That's three of his friends since 2012 moving here.

I'm friends with the first guy, and I've always dug the second two.

Guys ... he's losing excuses to not move here himself. He really, really is. He's been against it because of me, deep down; he can't deal with how close we are. Never has been able to.

But if we can keep working on developing this as I produce HATS in the meanwhile, if I can get a good deal for LTS ... he can't refuse to drop everything, move here, and begin shooting.

And ... he'd be here. I'd have my best friend ... HERE. And he loves Dallas. He wants to retire there.

I can't believe how this is shaping up. How it's feeling ... possible. I've hung on, and kept the faith, but been realistic. My soul ached when I had to shelve LACHESIS. When Fate and I no longer had the excuse to have a relationship. When I distanced in March 2013 and began a new relationship. (More on that soon.)

I just had to share that. As it was happening.

God, if he was here ... we could write together all of the time. We could be in the same space regularly. We COULD feel the casual sense of, 'hey, I'm so glad we're going here again tomorrow,' because we WOULD. We'd be writing, producing, planning and shooting all of the time. He'd get gigs at the local comedy clubs and GET somewhere. I'd introduce him to all the creative professionals I know. He'd have done his stint in chemistry, and can get back to his art.

Wow.

Fingers crossed. And toes. This needs to happen. He's too talented not to be here. And his closest friends are here.

It's time.

Send some encouragement out in to the universe, would you? Help bring along the push to let him relocate here and finally follow his dreams?

It's the combined energy of all of us that make all of the difference.

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posted February 08, 2014 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Send some encouragement out in to the universe, would you? Help bring along the push to let him relocate here and finally follow his dreams?

It's the combined energy of all of us that make all of the difference.


This is really cool and you know you have my love and encouragement

Edit: So is it your "TF" that's the scientist? It's interesting what you said about his stint in Chemistry being "up". and how this relates to the turn my life has taken over the last couple of years...That it seems that that part of my life seems to be wrapping up as well...Something I've been struggling with, and that I'm still not entirely certain of, to be honest...But it really does seem that way.

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Because it's apparent that that is contrived, and if Mel & Nichole did in fact confirm that as a "tf" connection (as she says they did), it just causes me to question some things...

Please, be careful...You must be discerning when it comes to these types of things...


Discernment is key.

I'm starting to be mildly annoyed at Mel and Nichole being the measuring stick against which all souls who may fit the profile are placed. That's bothering me.

This came to me just as it came to them. I'm sure it's resonating with others, too.

But I just don't have the - oh, audacity's not the best word. 'Conceit' isn't either. But I don't have enough of it to make me the be-all, end-all judge of who are and aren't Twinflames.

I use my scientific and investigative background to clear the most basic hurdles. From there, I try and be as open-minded as I'm able. It's not been easy, but I'm grateful that my debunking became a healthy scepticism.

That being said, I've known many emotionally predatory psychopaths to have a similar MO. I'm certainly not saying she is, but I'm ... that's a LOT to accept; to expect one to take simply on faith.

Why didn't she mention the meeting in 2008? Where did it happen? What came of it? Did her agent set it up?

Curiously, Crystal, why haven't you met the artist with whom you feel soul-bonded? Is there a specific reason?

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I use my scientific and investigative background to clear the most basic hurdles.


This answers my question, I thought I remembered you mentioning this before.

Again, this is all so interesting!

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Yes, multi-talented, but with me it is in both the sciences and in the arts (and even athletics). With art, it's music, fine art, and film. The fine art is what shines the most, and it was good enough that I made money off of it when I was a kid. Unfortunately, circumstances made it difficult to truly develop many of these talents (Life is a battle field)...But, I haven't given up...Actually, it is my DC who has inspired me to continue building and nurturing these gifts, among many other things.

With science, it's biology/medicine/engineering/physics. I was also into wildlife rescue/rehabilitation and conservation from a young age and felt that this was a large part of my mission in life (in addition to assisting/healing people and putting out messages...).


That's wonderful! It reminds me of my stepdaughter. She has such a special energy. She clearly drew me to her; she needed someone with my unique skill set to help her, and help her father, develop her talents. I'm very proud.

Both her parents are atheists and have raised her as such. There must be a reason. She's never been disbelieving in anything she can't see or couldn't know or verify. (Her ASC is 10° PIS, right on my DSC, exactly; Her MOON is exactly on her DSC.) So I've helped her become discerning, but encourage her to explore all religions and faiths. Feel which one 'fits'. She seems Christian, but in the sense of Christ's teachings, rather than the organised church or any one branch.

I'm rambling. 😉 But I'm very glad to hear what you're doing, Morph. (I kinda wanna call you Morpheus.) 😝

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That's wonderful! It reminds me of my stepdaughter. She has such a special energy. She clearly drew me to her; she needed someone with my unique skill set to help her, and help her father, develop her talents. I'm very proud.

I hope you know what a gift and blessing you are, and the impact you're making/have made just by this...

Unfortunately, I didn't have anyone like this coming up, though I longed for it. #12thhouseissues <- Yeah, I just did something that annoys me to no end, and I don't even use twitter, nor do I text much. #Lame (oops, I did it again).

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I'm rambling. 😉 But I'm very glad to hear what you're doing, Morph. (I kinda wanna call you Morpheus.) 😝

Thanks, and I'd be ok with that

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This is really cool and you know you have my love and encouragement

Edit: So is it your "TF" that's the scientist? It's interesting what you said about his stint in Chemistry being "up". and how this relates to the turn my life has taken over the last couple of years...That it seems that that part of my life seems to be wrapping up as well...Something I've been struggling with, and that I'm still not entirely certain of, to be honest...But it really does seem that way.


He is. Ohhh, he's so ... complicated.

In his teens, he studied comedy, and wrote as a means of dealing with personal problems. One of the youngest comics to actually open for larger acts, he still needed an education, so he went for his EE. But he really just enjoyed ACTUAL engineering - not the many steps involved in getting the degree. So he kept it up as a hobby, left the vocational school and went to a community college. By that point, he was nearing 30. (He'll be this year.) He got the BS in chem in Dec 2012. By March, he'd gotten a job in a lab, and I effectively considered the show shelved until further notice. It broke my heart, but it also made me finish what I'd started.

I was angry that he had to do that. But I got it, too. He needed to feel truly independent and get his life to that point. So that's what he's been doing. It's just been upsetting to see him try and fit into the conventional mould when he's always simply been the type to break it.

It's been ... frustrating. But enough of that.

What makes you feel you're foraying back into art from a period of science? I've been doing that, too, largely since 2008. Now I feel I'm achieving a better balance.

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