posted February 13, 2014 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Do you all spot a Kaali-Psyche-Venus conjunction in your composite? I keep getting that.

Just wondering if you have it.

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Not sure on KAALI, but no PSYCHE-VENUS with Fate in composite. I'm trying to recall if I have a loose one with my husband. Or Hatter. Think I might. That'd make it a soulmate linkage, most definitely.

posted February 13, 2014 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am very much into checking Helio. I think - as of now- that they are the decisive factor in twinflame charts.

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Oh! Merc, you wretch.

I get it. You mean Helio ties are essential. Yes, I agree. Unfortunately, I'm bunk - and I mean complete and utter pants - at reading them. I'm not even sure if I should be looking at Helio-Tropical or Helio-Sidereal, or Helio-WTF.

posted February 13, 2014 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Actually, I think the conjunction happens because thse asteroids take 5 years for completing a cycle, and since the age difference is 5 years AND we have been born close to each other in the yearly cycle (Sun-Sun-conjunction), the conjunction comes up.

I know some people would probably conclude from this it can be dismissed, I personally think it is very significant still.

I mean do we dismiss a Venus-Venus-conjunction in synastry?

What strikes me as thought-worthy though is how two of these asteroids, Union and Link, are so similiar in symbolism (symbolising connections of some sort) and also have the same speed (5 year cycle). That is interesting. To me at least.

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posted February 13, 2014 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Not about THAT. About Mr Sag and Mr Law. I mean, it almost seems like a weird case of soul fragmentation. Wow. The connexions are eerie. I'D find that confusing. Which is what, what's what, and so on.

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Finding astrological patterns. That is my gift... and my curse.

To be honest I believe I can find patterns in ANY synastry.

As a matter of fact before these two there were two others, I mentioned one of them when describing my breakdown. The other one was who sort of triggered the breakdown. Difficult to explain.

Patterns.
With these two guys I share in the composite an Isis-Osiris-conjunction and the guys share an Isis-Osiris-conjunction in composite, too.

With three of them (including Jude) there is a synastric Soomana-Sootyo-conjunction (stargirl and starboy), tied to Atlantis and some angle activation if I remember it right.

with the exclusion of Jude there are Pluto-Proserpina-aspects in the synastry.

Three of them have their Sappho conjunct my Moon, one of them has his Sappho on my Sun/Moon-mp.

in all cases there is an aspect of their nodes to my Moon (conj to SN; square to nodal axis, quinkunx to SN, quindecile to NN).

Shall I go on?

Speaking about patterns. Past life recalls were plenty, no matter if they might just be symbolical.

It probably should have been noted by me, how the most intense past life recalls I had about the first guy, well in these recalls we had either been siblings or friends, and he usually had a very protective influence.

In the case with guy 2, I had one particular past life recall, that was like a shock, even down to HOW I remembered it. I was hearing this loud bang inside my head and then it started, while i was fully awake, which felt weird somehow.
Tragic recall.
In that recall he had been my brother, my twinbrother to be precise (non-identical twins, and I was female).
We had been very very close, in fact I am pretty sure lines were crossed that should not be crossed within a family.
However, in that recall I had been pretty adamant about breaking this up, changing the pattern, and get married.
And then suddenly I heard that bang in my head, I ran back home, cause of course I knew whath ad happened, but I was too late. He was already lying ont he black-and-white tiles in the lobby of the house, having shot himself, and as a matter of fact died in my arms.
I can`t even begin to describe how much I was traumatized by this, even when I was ust having this recall. And if it was not a real one, I really wonder about my mental state. lol

Amazingly just shortly after I was having this recall, he was taking over a role in a very drastic play, in which he was cruelly murdered by getting his heart ripped out by his lover every night.
But then again, when I was having my breakdown, he was actually being hospitalized by having a real diagnosed mental breakdown (which I knew, cause a friend of me knew of someone who worked at that hospital, and she told me about it).

One of the last times I ever saw him perform, he would be perform the song he is most compelled with: The origin of love.

The german version of it. It describes, well read for yourself:

**** , even talking about this, hurts like hell. I suppose some wounds never heal.

"When the earth was still flat,
And the clouds made of fire,
And mountains stretched up to the sky,
Sometimes higher,
Folks roamed the earth
Like big rolling kegs.
They had two sets of arms.
They had two sets of legs.
They had two faces peering
Out of one giant head
So they could watch all around them
As they talked; while they read.
And they never knew nothing of love.
It was before the origin of love.

The origin of love

And there were three sexes then,
One that looked like two men
Glued up back to back,
Called the children of the sun.
And similar in shape and girth
Were the children of the earth.
They looked like two girls
Rolled up in one.
And the children of the moon
Were like a fork shoved on a spoon.
They were part sun, part earth
Part daughter, part son.

The origin of love

Now the gods grew quite scared
Of our strength and defiance
And Thor said,
"I'm gonna kill them all
With my hammer,
Like I killed the giants."
And Zeus said, "No,
You better let me
Use my lightening, like scissors,
Like I cut the legs off the whales
And dinosaurs into lizards."
Then he grabbed up some bolts
And he let out a laugh,
Said, "I'll split them right down the middle.
Gonna cut them right up in half."
And then storm clouds gathered above
Into great balls of fire

And then fire shot down
From the sky in bolts
Like shining blades
Of a knife.
And it ripped
Right through the flesh
Of the children of the sun
And the moon
And the earth.
And some Indian god
Sewed the wound up into a hole,
Pulled it round to our belly
To remind us of the price we pay.
And Osiris and the gods of the Nile
Gathered up a big storm
To blow a hurricane,
To scatter us away,
In a flood of wind and rain,
And a sea of tidal waves,
To wash us all away,
And if we don't behave
They'll cut us down again
And we'll be hopping round on one foot
And looking through one eye.

Last time I saw you
We had just split in two.
You were looking at me.
I was looking at you.
You had a way so familiar,
But I could not recognize,
Cause you had blood on your face;
I had blood in my eyes.
But I could swear by your expression
That the pain down in your soul
Was the same as the one down in mine.
That's the pain,
Cuts a straight line
Down through the heart;
We called it love.
So we wrapped our arms around each other,
Trying to shove ourselves back together.
We were making love,
Making love.
It was a cold dark evening,
Such a long time ago,
When by the mighty hand of Jove,
It was the sad story
How we became
Lonely two-legged creatures,
It's the story of
The origin of love.
That's the origin of love."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRIY2SHHHhs

Curiously we apparently started getting interested in astrology around the same time, too.

I once met his parents, well saw his parents, cause coincidentally we checked into the same hotel, and it was so odd. Seriously. Especially his mother. Because creepily I look more like his mother than my own. In fact HE has more resemblance to my mom than to his own (my mom is blonde with blue eyes, too).

I think that was about the time when I decided to stay far away from wherever he might perform. lol
It was just too creepy.

As for Mr Law - past life recalls, yes, and all quite unhappy. Themes of power, authorities, abuse and/ or forbidden love came up constantly. Oh and the war-theme. Curiously never a theme of betrayal (of each other) though.

And then there was of course this strange dream taking place "between lives", at least someone told me that that is what it was after telling that dream.

The patterns are there. Does not need to be soulfragmentation. Might simply be me seeing pattern everywhere. lol

posted February 13, 2014 03:53 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Do you all spot a Kaali-Psyche-Venus conjunction in your composite? I keep getting that.

Just wondering if you have it.

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posted February 13, 2014 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Perhaps in Helio, Ceri, but not Tropical.

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posted February 13, 2014 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Oh! Merc, you wretch.

I get it. You mean Helio ties are essential. Yes, I agree. Unfortunately, I'm bunk - and I mean complete and utter pants - at reading them. I'm not even sure if I should be looking at Helio-Tropical or Helio-Sidereal, or Helio-WTF.

See? Hopeless. Just wasn't my area of study, I regretfully admit.

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helio-tropical. (I had the discussionw ith myself, too,b ut myself was quite adamant about tropical )

I am still in learning-to-apply-state, but ther eis something so compelling and clear about the compfosite/ davision in helio.

posted February 13, 2014 04:30 PM            

We had a few sets of twins in LACHESIS; naturally, linked to Gemini. One such story echoes yours so strongly. Even to the point that certain details had to be tamed down, because they were just too brutal. Siobhan and Gavin, if I recall. It's been awhile. They were foreign, too.

I'm still good friends with that writer. She's been exploring transgressive in the past few years. But we were always all surprised at the dark nature of the past storylines.

Now, Lane and Fiona's are steeped in betrayal, which leads to the fall of the entire civilisation. Bad things. Largely misunderstandings between them, though, which added to a sense of true tragedy. They really loved each other, but couldn't manage to do anything but hurt one another.

I'm not sure about past life recalls, so to speak, but there are certain things that just hijack my brain, and that's where the Atlantean things came from. The fact that there was SO much overlap, and THEN the astrology of myself and Fate, and our synastry / composite would basically paint THAT story ...

It's been rather daunting. Stunning.

posted February 13, 2014 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
How interesting! Where is yours in Aquarius?

BTW we have an exact Union-Union-conjunction, too.

As for ast. Link....

ROFL
You will NOT believe this!

my LINK is on 25.42 Capricorn
his LINK is on 25.38 Capricorn
AND
his Venus is on 25.55 Capricorn

I am going to FREAK out now. So that is the third exact conjunction of same asteroids?

Whoa, that feels a little too much right now.

his helio Link is on 3.51 Aquarius conjunct my helio LInk on 4.15 Aquarius

ouc omposite Link conjuncts Moon by 3 degrees

helio Davison conjuncts Saturn on 18 Leo exact
Link

Sabian of 25-26 Cap
A Nature Spirit Dancing In The Iridescent Mist Of A Waterfall

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Our Davison Sun is at 25 Cap; I think I like that Sabian!

Our Davison Link is semisextile Sun at 26 Sag so I guess there is a bit of GC action, not just SGC. Composite helio Link is at Gemini 2.2 conjunct Venus at 1.48

I can't do a Link conjunction in synastry, but I can do a Link-Venus double whammy:

His Link sextile my Venus (1)
My Link semisextile his Venus (0)

posted February 14, 2014 02:15 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Okay. Wow. Ceri. No friggin' wonder.

We had a few sets of twins in LACHESIS; naturally, linked to Gemini. One such story echoes yours so strongly. Even to the point that certain details had to be tamed down, because they were just too brutal. Siobhan and Gavin, if I recall. It's been awhile. They were foreign, too.

I'm still good friends with that writer. She's been exploring transgressive in the past few years. But we were always all surprised at the dark nature of the past storylines.

Now, Lane and Fiona's are steeped in betrayal, which leads to the fall of the entire civilisation. Bad things. Largely misunderstandings between them, though, which added to a sense of true tragedy. They really loved each other, but couldn't manage to do anything but hurt one another.

I'm not sure about past life recalls, so to speak, but there are certain things that just hijack my brain, and that's where the Atlantean things came from. The fact that there was SO much overlap, and THEN the astrology of myself and Fate, and our synastry / composite would basically paint THAT story ...

It's been rather daunting. Stunning.

It sounds as if it's been for you, too.

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Very interesting what you wrote here. That one resonated especially "They really loved each other, but couldn't manage to do anything but hurt one another."

Also, it strikes me how these past life recalls (I call them that, though I am aware that maybe they are real past life recalls, maybe they are a way of my Higher Self to describe certain psychological responses within me to certain people) reek of drama, tragedy and "Must not" or "Can not".

Especially in terms of guy 2 and Mr Law, these past life recalls feel even acutely painful. A sense of loss that is cutting. In the first case though it is mixed with anger and maybe hatred is a too strong word. But well his Nessus is exactly conjunct my DESC, opposing my Atlantis, his Pluto squares my Proserpina exact. We have an enmeshment of his Venus-Eros conjunct my Venus, squaring his Mars, which is exactly conjunct my Pluto.

his Dr Nessus squares my Dr Dejanira.
His Kaali conjuncts my Dejanira (as a matter of fact he has a Sun-Kaali-square connected to the cardinal points, 00 Cap and about 2 Aries)

In the composite and Davison is square Pluto, and Moon is loosely connected either by opposition or conjunction to Pluto (7 degrees though), and square Sun (5 degrees)

We never even talked to each other, and if it is up to me, we never will. Before I decide to cut no 1 and 2 totally out of my life (even just seeing them on stage), I had to go for the last rows when seeing shows with that Nessus-on-my-DESC-guy. I had naively tried sitting first row 2 or 3 times, but hardly could see the performances through. The athmosphere there was fraught with so much tension, it was more than uncomfortable. Actually I had to fight the urge to constantly giggle (to release some of that tension) or jump up and run right out of the theatre.
The very first time I saw him, and unkowingly sat too close to stage, well, it was even physically painful. It felt like my chest was being ripped open and there was suddenly some sort of white-hot glowing ball or globe inside my chest threatening to burst it. Some energy that my body hardly could contain while still functioning. This was not a kundalini rising, this was something very different, and though today I know that it probably was necessary, it felt almost intrusive and violent.

Well, and then of course the look he shot me, or actually the stare he gave me, I should have burned to ashes on the spot. He looked SO angry, there was a certain feeling of madness there all at once. I am sure he is a perfectly sane peaceful human being (not so sure about the human-part actually), and I am relatively sane and balance myself, but I have a very strong feeling that if we should ever end up too close to each other, as in close enough to have a conservation, things would burst, and there might be casualties. And honestly, I do not intend to be one of those casualties.

I know that this sounds seriously insane what I wrote here, but it is just a feeling I have. maybe it comes from a past life, who knows?

As for the past life recalls around Mr Law, there is not so much anger residue (though there should be given some of the horrific things I recalled), but this red thread, this feeling of unbearable loss, so unbearable that the only way for my soul to survive it somehow was to shut it out, close it down.

There has never been a similiar sense of electricity or intensity, or things like a white hot glowing globe bursting inside of me as I described.
I will base my obseravtion around when I actually saw him, physically. And that has always been decidedly unexcited. Maybe a sense of melancholy attached to it, but mostly it just felt warm.
But of course this certain contentment is a new development, and the past life recalls were definitely lacking in this regard. I once remarked to a friend if going by these recalls we really had to mess it up in EVERY SINGLE life. LOL
But whatever it is or was, it is as it is, and it is alright now.
I find it interesting thought hat the time before this time, when I saw him on stage, I at a certain point snapped out of some kind of reverie (have no clue what I had been thinking of, it was like my conscious Self had temporarily given over to something else. lol), and then I noticed that royal-deep blue glow around him. Even when I blinked it would not go away. I asked my friend who was sitting beside me if she could see it, too. But she couldn`t. Still at that moment he was glowing blue. LOL

Yeah, I DO sound insane, right?

What also strikes me is how the only one I seem to recall positive things about is Mr Sag. Event hough of course at least in one of these recalls we died (but at least we died together), the feeling, the athomosphere that permeates these recalls/ dreams is an utmost serenity, bliss. Walking in fields of gold. That is like it feels. Like a golden light is streaming through these recalls. It`s uplifting, reassuring, nurturing, and makes my heart swell and flow over with appreciation and love for life itself. Which is actually my very nature. To love life and the world and everything, just I temporarily (for some decades) forgot that this is who I am. That at the core of me ther eis this childlike wonder and marvel about the beauty of everything that is, everything that could be (which actually means it already is, just in a different form), and knowing that everything is alright, everything is as it should be, and it is just good.
These kind of feelings feel very different to all the others, there is an ease and carefreeness (unless I try to analyze them too much of course. lol), while these other recalls/ dreams always feel emotionally exhausting, turmoiled, even traumatic at times.

posted February 14, 2014 04:00 PM            

While we know of many soulmate couples, there are two pairs that are sticking out; as I mentioned before, there are two mythologies that are not simply describing a theme, but actually depict the union between the (divine) feminine and masculine.

Possibly Eros and Psyche belong to that, too, but for now I will only mention those I am sure about.

Which are actually only 2 or maybe 3.

1) Isis and Osiris, very decidedly twinflames

2) Siva and Parvati, symbolizing the archetypical masculine and feminine (Siva and Shakti)

3) Kaali and Rudra

Now for this I was operating on hunches mostly, but Kaali is the fierce version of Parvati, and Rudra is her male counterpart, the fierce manifestation of Siva.
"Fierce" includes more than just violence and destruction (though it can be a part of it). At its base level it is swirling energy like a pull into transformation.
Defnitely Kundalini belongs here, too.

now for the things that feel like missing pieces. And I thank IQ for that.

Well, as we already stated Isis is associated with Sirius (or the other way round) and Osiris is associated with Orion, namely Alnitak (one of the stars in the belt, which is at about 24 Gemini, at least in 1974).

Now I am quoting IQ from the other thread:

"The Pyramids of Giza maps to Orion, but Sirius is said to Symbolize Isis. The Dogon Tribe connected Sirius as the Axis of the Universe, and said that all "Matter" emanates from Sirius. This is a strong tie in to the Vedic Theory of all "Maya" or Illusory Matter produced from "Adi Parasakthi" or First Cause Goddess, which is what Ancient Egyoptians considered Isis. [Shiva being Osiris].

Thus, any geometric interrlay between Sirius and Orion in the sky is a symbol of Cosmological Tantra of Osiris-Isis or Shiva-Shakti. That is what I know so far."

Parvati is the reincarnation of Shakti btw.

So both Siva/Osiris are related to Orion, and Parvati/Isis connected to Sirius (not to mention that Sirius is a TWIN-star. lol)

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Now today I found something else, and that is related to Kaali and Rudra.

Rudra actually is also associated with ORion, but in this instance he is associated with the star Betelgeuse (28 Gemini).

Kaali on the other hand is connected to the Galactic Centre!

And THAT is exactly what that vision or imagery I was seeing in my mind a few years ago, was describing.

From this I think that not only Isis/Osiris, Siva/Pavati and Kaali/Rudra might play an important role in twin flame astrology, but so will Sirius, Alnitak, Betelgeuse and the Galactic Centre.

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While researcing that I found out something else.
In Japanese the constellation of the Pleiades is called "Subaru", originally "Sumaru", which means "to get together" or "to tie together".

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As for the four royal fixed stars.

Regulus is of course associated with royalty.
Formalhaut is also associated with royalty, but with spiritual more than worldly. As the star that is associated with Christ (I am sure I read that somewhere, but now I can`t find the link).

Also found this:

" along with the stars near 12 degrees of Gemini ~ Aldebaran and the Pleiades ~ Fomalhaut has been associated with immortality."
http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/highlights/fomalhaut/fomalhaut.html

As for Antares and Aldebaran, I think they link back to Sumeria/ Babylon.

I also found this here:
"Aldebaran is said to be a portal to the mysteries of the mind and when balanced with the fixed star Antares, a portal to the mysteries of the heart, this creates a powerful stargate axis that is illuminated bi-annally when the Sun passes by Aldebaran at the first of June and then Antares about six months later."

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Vega/ Lyra is probably important due to being so close to opposition to Sirius.

for example at my birth

Vega: 14.57 Capricorn
Sirius: 13.45 Cancer

It is not exactly opposite, but near enough to be intriguing.

Just my thoughts for now.

EDIT:

Antares-Aldebaran as axis symbolizing a possible portal or gate (LOL I just remember these dreams, where people were annoyingly and stubbornly insisting on referring tome as gate keeper. Whatever that might be. But if Antares-Aldebaran is symbolizing such a portal, well my nodal axis running along it, might actually resonate with that gate-thing. OH and of course my Atlantis is on Antares).

Anyway, if Antares-Aldebaran represent that axis-portal, it makes sense that the degrees around 9 Virgo (and 9 Pisces probably) come up so often.
NOt only do they relate to the sidereal SGC ī, as IQ pointed out some years ago, but this is the exact midpoint/ balancepoint of the Antares-Aldebaran-axis.

I wonder if something similiar is true for the midpoint between Vega and Sirius, which would be approximately at 13-14 Aries and Libra. And I noticed quite a strong emphasis on these areas, too.

But as I said preliminary.

posted February 15, 2014 03:27 AM            

Okay. I'm not even going to try and interpret anything Helio, but I DO want to share the following, after you've listed the above.

Synastrically, there's not much going on with Fate and I in that regard. The only 'theme' there is 'close-yet-not'.

To wit:

ME / FATE

ISIS: 27° LEO / 24° VIR
OSIRIS: 19° LEO / 02° LIB
SIVA: 20° CAN / 11° LIB
PARVATI: 05° CAN / 17° LIB
RUDRA: 15° PIS / 09° CAP
KAALI: 16° CAP / 26° AQU

Clearly, not much.

Interestingly: as you can see, he and I have a bizarrely equivalent near-conjunction of ISIS and OSIRIS natally.

(Not to mention, my ISIS being close to REGULUS, which I find intriguing.)

My SIVA and PARVATI are both in the same sign, way too far for a conjunction. His are as well - closer, but no cigar. Instead, my SIVA barely squares his PARVATI, and it'd be a double-whammy, except the orb is far too wide.

Same with RUDRA and KAALI; my KAALI would conjunct his RUDRA, but at an orb of 7°, no dice. His RUDRA's heading into PIS, but mine's already there. No aspect.

There's a prevailing theme of, natally, near-conjunctions, or almost-aspects. Synastrically, the story is 'so close, and yet, nothing.' As if the way we are is close to this sort of completion, but not getting there somehow, for some reason. Same natally, too. Almost conjunctions. Near aspects.

So, I looked at the composite. Tropical and Helio. As I'm much more familiar, we'll go with Tropical first.

PARVATI @ 28° LEO
SIVA @ 0° VIR

ISIS @ 11° VIR
OSIRIS @ 10° VIR

KAALI @ 06° AQU
RUDRA @ 12° AQU

Naturally, I knew about the ISIS-OSIRIS, but not the others. I realise that the PARVATI-SIVA is really pushing it, too, being a solid 2°, orb, and KAALI and RUDRA are, again 'close-yet-not' conjunct.

So, I looked at declination.

They're all parallel. And by that, I mean each other; ISIS-OSIRIS, SIVA-PARVATI, and KAALI-RUDRA. All parallel.

That's Tropical. Helio is a similar setup.

ISIS and OSIRIS are mimicking our Draconic placements, still in LEO, but 7° apart - like in the natals.

They are, however, parallel.

SIVA and PARVATI are almost conjunct out-of-sign, 4° away, late CAN to early LEO.

They are, however, also parallel.

KAALI-RUDRA are simply conjunct at 26° AQU. And also parallel.

posted February 15, 2014 05:19 AM            

Mr Sag has just published a video about how he recorded his Solo CD, and except for him there was something on this video, that wanted to get to my attention. But it was only now that I realized what it was.

In that video there was also a TV shown, and the TV was from the label of "Orion".

Orion is really following me everywhere, every car I notice seem to have either the name Orion or Sirius on it, hotels go by that name and so on. It is baffling really.

Orion and Sirius seem to be everywhere.

BTW in my own name there is one `i`missing and if not for that my name would contain the words Isis and Sirius.
However, the one letter IS missing. But Mr Sag provides another `I`.
He does not provide any `O`s`though, so no Orion there. lol

posted February 15, 2014 05:41 AM            

as for your post, first let me get myself a cup of coffee.

And actually could you give me your data, so I can have a look myself. the thing is, something weird sometimes happen when I LOOK at charts. Something inside me seems to start to vibrate with certain charts, like an inner "Yes" and feeling of elation and excitement. I donīt know if that always indicates I am looking at a twinsoul-chart or soulmate-chart, or simply that I resonate with the chart, I do often not even know WHAT exactly makes me get this inner tingle, that feeling like looking at two pieces coming together.

But I do need the visual.
I am still debating which asteroids except for the divine couples I woudl like to see, but I am pretty sure in my final "kit" there will be mentioning of UNION, KARMA; DESTINN, JUNO, VALENTINE, AMOR, ATLANTIS and ALMA and ANGEL. (Eros will be there, too, as part of the Eros-Psyche-couple)
Unfortunately we can`t put it all into an astro.com-chart.

I would rather have the opportunity to put more asteroids in there, and have a significantly reduced orb.

However on first glance I already saw that ONCE again the around 7-12 degrees of Virgo came up, along with REGULUS. (actually I noticed one emphasis on around 7-9 and another one from 10-12 Virgo, so the core seem to be the 8 and 11 degrees of Virgo, at least as per my observation as of now which probably will get modified again. lol

No I do not find the 2 degree orb of Parvati-Siva-reaching AT ALL. It is breathtaking as a matter of fact. Parvati might be a bit too wide to be considered in close conjunct to Regulus (I am using 1,5 degree orb, so maybe it makes the cut after all. lol)
Siva is most definitely there.

Isis and Osiris most definitely are conjunct, and curiously, tough in helio it is more widely for Mr Sag and me (I wouldnt consider it as a conjunction, if it did not mirror the exact Isis-Osiris-conjunction in tropical) - in Davison btw-

Our helio composite Isis is on 12 Virgo. So ONCE again this Virgoan-area is coming up. Why?

Was I right with the assessment I apparently wrote yesterday (though once again it felt like something,t hat was rather written through me, butn ot by me. Happens every couple of years. lol, That feeling of being still me, but operating from a different frequency or a different dimension of me. The fullmoon in Aquarius-Leo ALWAYS does these things to me. I cannot remember even one single of these Aqua-Leo-fullmoons that have been `normal` for me in the past years. And this one additionally fell onto my tropical Psyche and mean Lilith).

Does the appareance of these Virgoan area have to do with being so close to the midpoint of the Aldebaran-Antares axis? Is this where the "mind" (Aldebaran) and the "heart/passion" (Antares) meet and somehow flow out?

posted February 15, 2014 08:11 AM            

But anyway my preliminary thought on this is, that if we are dealing with an aspect of approximately 4 degrees, esp. in conjunctions, I usually do not consider it UNLESS it is also parallel or contraparallel!
(Exception being if the same aspect is present at a tighter orb in tropical)
Of course a tight conjunction and parallel would be stronger, but I suppose even 4 degrees for a conjunction and a parallel might drew them together.

posted February 15, 2014 09:08 AM            

The tropical composite has:

1) Kaali conjunct Rudra on 12 Cancer (0°41)
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Kaali parallel Rudra (0°04)

+ Sirius conjunct Kaali (0°58) and Sirius (loosely) conjunct Rudra (1°35)

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Sirius parallel Kaali (0°06)
Sirius parallel Rudra (0°09)

2) Isis conjunct Osiris wide (3°00) with Vesta conjunct Osiris (1°58) and Vesta conjunct Isis (1°08)

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Isis parallel Osiris (0°19)
Vesta parallel Isis (0°08)
Vesta parallel Osiris (0°11)

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VEGA conjunct Isis (0°01!!!)
VEGA is just out of range for Osiris
VEGA conjunct Vesta (1°13)

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VEga parallel vesta (0.08)
Vega parallel Isis (0.00 )
Vega parallel Osiris (0.19)

Of course Vega/Vesta/Isis/Osiris are also opposite Sirius / Kaali / Rudra

3)
Eros trine Psyche (0°13)

LUCKILY on no fixed star as far as I can see. and no parallel nor contraprallel *breath of relief*

and only in tropical.

These aret he visuals btw

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You can see how similiar the helio looks to the one with MR Sag - we share the same Kite formation, just with Mr Somerhalder Valentine is part of it and Mars.

The difference here is that for Mr Sag and me the soulmate-couple of Pluto-Persephone (and Ceres) is part of the Kite-formation, while with Mr Somerhalder it is only Venus-Mars-Pluto-Neptune (only! ), but no soulmate couple included here.

Also, Venus-Pluto fall ALMOST on the midpoint of Vega-Sirus, but close is not "on target", it is just .. close. (13-15 degrees would have been on target)

Isis-Osiris are clearly not conjunct anymore (I woudl allow 4 degrees, but not 8!), neither are they on a fixed star.

Kaali-Rudra still exactly conjunct, make me listen up definitely. It is... creepy to say the least. However they are NOT on a fixed star either.

Their sabian is:
"At A Railroad Crossing, An Automobile is Wrecked By A Train"

Yeah, certainly not going there! Probably too much whirlwind-energy being created. this might be the helio, but still Kaali and Rudra are fierce, stormy and fiery, and generating an energy like a nuclear explosion.

But not on a fixed star.

Eros here is quinkunx Psyche by 2 degrees.
Not on a fixed star either.

Psyche: 2-3 Aquarius
A Deserter From The Navy

Eros: 4-5 Virgo
A Man Becoming Aware Of Nature Spirits And Normally Unseen Spiritual Agencies

Spiritual, yes. But certainly not of a twinflame-nature.

Strong helio composite nevertheless.

But what I see of fixed star activation:

Jupiter on Algol exact (the great benefic on the malefic star, that is interesting.)

Earth/Moon complex on Bellatrix exact, a star in the constellation of Orion, but not associated with one of the divine couples, and curiously neither of the soulmate asteroids ends up on a fixed star.

Could that be a criteria for discernment?

posted February 15, 2014 10:56 AM            

The fixed star Thuban is on 7 Virgo.

Now I have never ever heard of this star before. I swear

But reding up on Sirius I stumbled across this

"Sirius, Queen's Chamber (Feminine), Pleiades (Sister Stars)
Orion, Kings Chamber, Thuban
Thuban was the pole star when the pyramids allegedly were built "

and then found this:

""Thuban (Hebrew), the subtle. Some 4,620 years ago it was the Polar Star. It is still a very important star in nautical reckonings, guiding the commerce of the seas, and thus 'the god of this world' is represented as winding in his contortions round the pole of the world, as if to indicate his subtle influence in all worldly affairs."
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Thuban.html

While there are quite some negative interpretations on the net (but actually pretty much all fixed stars except for a few selected one seem to be negatively seen by earlier authors), one of the key concepts of this star seems to be protection and guardianship. Bernadette Brady calls it the "guarding feminine".

She also writes: "it will indicate issues around giving and sharing".
That the owner may have a great gift, but may fear to use that gift, fearing it could get exhausted, and the lesson implied is to let go of that fear and USE the gift inherent here.

Thuban is in the constellation of Draco (we all are aware of the dragons, arenīt we?), and it is also connected to the Egyptians or actually the pyramids of Giza (just like Orion and Sirius).

Derek Murphy writes:

"Draco used to spin around the Celestial North Pole like the hands of a giant clock. Due to its central location, it looked like DRaco was actually causing the rotation of the fixed stars. Because of this Draco was put in the center of ancient star charts, and in mythology given the role of creating the cosmos and time. "

posted February 15, 2014 01:01 PM            

I was going to just post a Helio chart, but then the whole thing crashed. Luckily, I saw you asked for data - not charts. Ohh, Mercury!

Here you go:

12 OCT 1980 @ 04:32 CDT, Dallas, TX, USA
20 DEC 1984 @ 09:24 EST, New York, NY, USA

(Something I just noticed. We're both connected to a place called Preston Hollow. There's one in Dallas, and one in New York.)

Anyhow. You're far more adept at Helio things, so, I'll busy myself with casting for a bit.

I'm a little floored, to be frank. I didn't expect to see that last night. I have no idea what it means. I honestly don't. There's a part of me that's becoming overwhelmed and out of my depth.

I'm a scientist. It's my candle in the dark. It keeps the demon-haunted world at bay, and for that, I am grateful. When the flame flickers, I lose my footing. I don't know this terrain. A part of me might, but that could be pure delusion. The more intense it all becomes, the less I'm sure of anything. Actually, I'm sure of nothing.

I'm blathering. I'll let you do your thing.

It's just, my husband put on 'Contact' last night; I read the novel and saw the movie in theatres over a decade, goodness, closer to two? ago. We would reference it in The Scientific Method and Evaluating Pseudoscience - both taught by my astrophysics professor who likened me to Arroway. And it's no wonder; I adore that character. I relate to her very deeply on some level. Fiona is practically her British version who ended up in this crazy story, thanks to her adventuresome employer, Lane. When, in reality, I was just following Fate's lead. I let him take point, and I just knew I'd get where I was supposed to go.

Either way, my old prof had said I was searching for the answers to questions that plague humanity - and not even 20. He had no doubt that it might drive me to discover many things, but that he could only hope to provide some of those tools I'd need: like Sagan's candle, and Occam's Razor. 😉 The latter'd been in my toolkit for awhile, though.

He was also oddly connected to my family. He attended school with my grandfather, and two aunts. He was fond of my last name, therefore, and pleased to have a member of the next generation under his own tutelage. Very, very cool.

I hadn't realised until last night, the star that Carl and Ann were using was Vega. I can't believe it didn't register. That I forgot it. Last time I saw 'Contact' was in 2008, just prior to coming to LA. I ended up sleepless and staying up to watch it on some cable station. Ended up deeply inspired (as always?) and banged out a whole new dimension of the project I was writing then - HATS.

I realised it was a transdimensional story. It was playing across time. These were souls connected for a purpose.

Not your typical crime drama. 😉

Anyhow, as I'd come down while they (he and the kiddo) were watching, it was the wormhole travelling scene.

And I saw the blue star. That gorgeous blue star. Ellie's trying to report her findings, overwhelmed by the incredible sight, and hasn't yet said it.

I did. I said, with the same odd wonder, 'that's Vega.'

My wonder, however, was coming from a sense of 'coincidence'.

They blink at me. 'How do you know that?'

'I'm researching it,' I say. 'It's a topic of discussion on Lindaland right now. ... I don't know why, but it is.'

And I knew: this is significant. I have a gist of the time, but haven't run the chart. Still. I knew it was important. I knew something was saying, 'yes. Look at Vega.'

And then I thought, as usual: what am I doing? What am I trying to do? Why does this obsess me?

The hearing scene always gets me. My stepdaughter came over and asked why I was crying, and gave me a hug. I never cry. (Well ... unless we're counting all of that with Fate. Ohhhh, did I cry.) I never even get emotional. It's uncommon. And for that?

'I know what she's feeling,' I said. It was crazy, but I knew. Now, at 33 years, I've had so many such experiences that nothing can explain. Things which I simply have to take on faith - or expect others to. Oh, the way that Kitz, (James Woods) attacks her on her own level - using her own scepticism to trap her - and she can only concede. Because THAT's what you do. Else you're not a scientist. And if you're not, then what the hell are you?

Fiona has such an experience in LACHESIS; different, but similar in that her rational mind and scientific background cannot explain it. She must either deem herself mad, or that science is not her infallible measure. That there IS no such thing. Fortunately, Lane's been there for quite some time, and can ease her into this new understanding. If she'd only be willing to go.

Anyhow.

I'm STILL blathering.

But this is the only place I feel I can speak right now. The only place which holds my interest, my undivided attention. I'm having One Of Those Days. Or, for me, periods. They can last for days. Weeks. But usually days.

I just stare into space. Literally. I stare into the sky, I contemplate the heavens. I ask myself questions, I beg for answers - of what, I don't know, and to answer what - I don't KNOW. And I'm not comforted with 'can't and never will.'

As a scientist, I'm always ousted from the very places I need most. I'm 'unreasonable' and 'insensitive'. And I never mean to be, but it always ends poorly, because science is All. I. Have. That 'faith' thing ... it's not ... I don't ... it varies. Not as much as it used to, but it varies.

The SUN seems to be hitting his KAALI-PSYCHE-MARS, and our composite Helio KAALI-RUDRA. Whatever THAT means.

It's as if I expect the answers to be above me. Way, way above me, and if I can just listen closely enough, find the right frequency, I can hear them - those answers. Vega. Oh, what's the deal with you? Why are you 'here' now?

God, that film always gets me.

posted February 15, 2014 01:06 PM            

Okay, now I AM sounding nuts.

posted February 15, 2014 01:22 PM            

Yes, also gets to me.

I forgot about "Contact". Totally forgot. I think for me, too, it was in 2008. This pivotal, this lifeturning year.

And I forgot?

As a matter of fact, when delving into the fixed stars, getting consumed with them for the last days, especially yesterday (I even DREAMED of seing a map, no of SEEING the starsystem, and htere were notes attached to them, telling to pay MOST attention to not only the fixed stars, but to the asteroids that are in the near belt, between Mars and Jupiter, in that dream I was shown that THESE are the ones that count. But they DO count. A LOT. an especially the Amor-asteroids. They were specifically singled out in my dream. lol)

But what I wrote today, what I found out about the fixed stars, it does not feel like new knowledge, it feels like I re-membered it. As if I knew it before, just forgot that I did.

posted February 15, 2014 01:34 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I might need to get re-grounded. Fast.

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Same here.

posted February 15, 2014 01:45 PM            

just checking.

Is your ASC 10 Virgo?

His is 00 Aquarius?

posted February 15, 2014 02:28 PM            

First internal reaction:

"Whoa?"

"YES"

"Wow!"

LOL

Why this reaction? Good question.

I think it has to do with your helio Neptune-Saturn/pluto-sextile becoming the base of TWO interlocking closed circuits.

There is always clarity in soulmate or maybe even twinflame-composites. You do not have to go search for connections they POUNCE at you.

Forget about that.
I reduced the orb to 50% but allowed aspectlines to all, and that is what I mean by condensed composite.

i find it interesting how for you also the Kite, golden rectangle comes up in your aspect-pattern.

Oh and see? Your Eros is from Vega.