posted February 21, 2014 06:19 PM            

"y D-ASC is 22° ARI; 12H VENUS 1.5° conjunct. I think my H-MARS is 0° ARI, too."
LOL

No surprise here I think.

my D-Sun and Mercury are at 15 Aries, my D-Venus is at 25 Aries

"I'm relieved - deeply - on some level that you feel much the same, Ceri. I was certainly feeling the odd-one-out in that regard."
And I thought *I* was the odd one. Well with your Moon-Uranus and my Aqua-Moon we are probably both a little odd. lol

posted February 21, 2014 06:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
There is a lot of false info out there on the internet.
And some of it is written by people who aren't even in a twinflame union, and nor do they have any first hand experience of it. (Some individuals, not all).
I don't like that because what its doing is misguiding others, and leaving them confused in the end.

The only info I feel is legit is that of Mel and Nichole's (and a very few other AUTHENTIC tfs), because they have almost 20 years of experience, and I vibe at their level. Their info really resonates with me.

The lifetime after lifetime thing is usually soulmates.
They need that in order to gain experience.

For TFs, the gathering info bit I feel doesn't need several lifetimes to do, as they are already graduates.
They wouldn't need to incarnate again and again because they already have all the skills that they need.

Now in this lifetime, they just have to learn to put their skills/abilities to good use for humanity and clear their genealogy's energetic patterns.

They will naturally have to meet in order to do that, because that is what they signed up for.

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I appreciate what you say...but I hope we can agree to disagree!? This particular theory leaves me feeling flat and disconnected, not uplifted....i have to go with my intuition! Hope you understand, not meaning to be disagreeable!
But your experiences and thoughts regarding them I find very uplifting!! thank you for sharing them!!

posted February 21, 2014 07:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I appreciate what you say...but I hope we can agree to disagree!? This particular theory leaves me feeling flat and disconnected, not uplifted....i have to go with my intuition! Hope you understand, not meaning to be disagreeable!
But your experiences and thoughts regarding them I find very uplifting!! thank you for sharing them!!

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I'm with you, Gabby. It's just a bit insular.

I'm beginning to wonder if different Oversouls approach it differently? Such as, this group did it this way, but that group did so another way - and so on.

posted February 21, 2014 08:07 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I'm with you, Gabby. It's just a bit insular.

I'm beginning to wonder if different Oversouls approach it differently? Such as, this group did it this way, but that group did so another way - and so on.

Any 'one-size-fits-all' on those terms feels off to me.

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You know what, i think your on to something....
I bet different soul groups do it different so to say it's 'this way' for everyone is going to feel very unnatural and not at all what one person needs at the same time it's completely spot on for another!
It's good to learn and listen to all opinions and theory's with an open heart and mind even if it doesn't feel right for you because they all have validity and should be heard! We might be learning about the techniques another group has used....and that's always interesting and worthy of respect!

posted February 21, 2014 08:59 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Gabby:
You know what, i think your on to something....
I bet different soul groups do it different so to say it's 'this way' for everyone is going to feel very unnatural and not at all what one person needs at the same time it's completely spot on for another!
It's good to learn and listen to all opinions and theory's with an open heart and mind even if it doesn't feel right for you because they all have validity and should be heard! We might be learning about the techniques another group has used....and that's always interesting and worthy of respect!

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posted February 21, 2014 09:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
lavender,

I totally get what you were writing about here

"Well for me its whenever I think of him or he just randomly "pops up", I start to feel butterflies and vibrations in my heart (not stomach lol)."
4

Sometimes I will get these symptoms, without having thought of him before consciously.
But then ou of the blue - wham!- it is like I am being hit/ struck by a wave of his energy, what his energy feels to me when I am in his proximity, as if he would be here. Sometimes so intense that against better knowledge i have to turn around and check he is not really standing behind me. lol

"Expanded? Lol."
Yes, VERY expanded. Euphoric. Feeling of love that encompasses all the world and cannot be contained inside.

"It kind of feels like mini–orgasms happening in my HEART and solar plexus rather than where they normally should LOLOL"
I like that expression, very apt for my experience, too

"I feel this sensation spread out in all sorts of directions and all my chakras come alive. Its like a vibrating/tingling sensation in my whole being."
Yes. Often a feeling as being stroked by an electric cord, too. Which at first led me to the assumption I was having a stroke. lol

"It can get so intense sometimes that I have to just breathe and lie down lol."
Yes, same here.

Actually once during a concert of him, when he had to be standing just in front of me and beside me, that experience suddenly got so intense, I was feeling as if I was on the brink of passing out.
I.do.not.pass.out.just because a man is near. But these moments?
Oh boy....

On the other hand the last time we talked, I did not get the passing-out-feeling, it was just a natural thing to do, and felt more carefree, easy, light. In a deep intense way, if that makes sense. At least to me.
It almost made me laugh though how much he seemed to try to "crawl" into me (well not really, but for some reason the normal distance zones do not work for us, if we talk even though technically we do not even know each other. But from the first meeting on he always comes so close that one more step and we would have to hug or we would tumble and fall. lol

And then it also struck me, how it felt like we hadn`t been separated at all (well to be separted, you have to know each other well, which we don`t, in this physical dimension, but still it feels like meeting - again), as if I am a constant part of his world, so it is no surprise and not unexpected that I show up and talk to him (and that after being in ignorance mode for so so so long).

Maybe it is just his natural talent making people feel welcome. lol
But it certainly stunned me. Those few times we bumped into each other, it almost seemed as if he had been waiting for it to happen. It is weird. And crazy. And makes me feel wonderfully at ease. lol

He is just a nice guy I suppose.

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I really feel he may have been waiting for you lol. No doubt about it!

But I'm glad I'm not alone in this lol.
I can relate to a lot of what you described too.

posted February 21, 2014 09:12 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I appreciate what you say...but I hope we can agree to disagree!? This particular theory leaves me feeling flat and disconnected, not uplifted....i have to go with my intuition! Hope you understand, not meaning to be disagreeable!
But your experiences and thoughts regarding them I find very uplifting!! thank you for sharing them!!

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Of course!
No worries, I understand lol.
Everyone has their own stuff they vibe with right?
What works for one may not work for the other, which is perfectly alright.

posted February 21, 2014 09:34 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

And no matter what label I give this connection, what name I find for it, I will be eternally grateful for him being instrumental in this experience for me, this opening up - and yes, let`s face it my heartchakra needed a huge opening up, and that is what happened-
and even though I was refusing to admit it - even to myself, as I am so very good in selfdenial- for years, it`s true, I do feel for him. Something. Something greater, something beyond words, something that I do not have a category for, something that defies rigid defintions, something that my mind cannot grasp. But it`s something good. REALLY good.

Is it love?
I`ve been in love before I think. This is. Differnt. More. Deeper. Infinite. Yet not graspable - for me- in normal social terms. It`s just. different. And for once in my life my mind is completely speechless, thoughtless, not able to grasp, define, analyze, rationalize, put into words.
But my heart, my soul, knows.
I am not always sure what exactly my soul knows, but it knows. I still have to find a way to have my soul and heart clearly communicate with my mind. LOL

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Awww
I can echo pretty much all that you just said.

I've had bouts of denial as well.
I'd swing from one end to the other; from love to fear. .

But something just shifted once I took that step to reach out to him.
Its like all those negative ego and fear based emotions just floated away and I entered a new phase of clarity, knowing and reassurance.

posted February 21, 2014 10:56 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Gabby:
You know what, i think your on to something....
I bet different soul groups do it different so to say it's 'this way' for everyone is going to feel very unnatural and not at all what one person needs at the same time it's completely spot on for another!
It's good to learn and listen to all opinions and theory's with an open heart and mind even if it doesn't feel right for you because they all have validity and should be heard! We might be learning about the techniques another group has used....and that's always interesting and worthy of respect!

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👍
I agree entirely. It's through so many others that we come to learn about ourselves. Just like anything, we try different things, seeing what works, what doesn't, and what might.

In regards to so much of this, it's been rather hodgepodge, and, strangely originating from that which came to me that September 2005.

Have we not all had our own 'maps' unfold before us in some way? Something cobbled from dreams or visions, from which a sort of bespoken philosophy emerged?

posted February 21, 2014 11:33 PM            

I'm not tech-savvy and don't know how to copy several pieces of so many differing posts to respond to what you shared so I'll attempt this willy-nilly.

Ceri, I think you mentioned a preference for hearing about people's experiences over the theories and attempts to understand. I really resonate with that as well. But I know for myself that so much of this is so not-relateable to whatever is "normal" that we take that driving need to know and understand to trying to find whatever information we can that, yes, RESONATES.

I know I do.

Off the top, I'll mention a book "Journey of Souls" that very much resonated with me. The author is a hypnotherapist who accidentally regressed a client into a state where he talked about where his soul resided before coming to Earth. Out of that first experience, the author then used the same technique to regress twenty-nine other clients to the same ("superconscious") state and found, astoundingly, that the accounts were all consistent. He asked questions of his clients so that he could fill in details and better understand. This author actually takes exception with the idea of Twin Flames, as most of us hear about them and read about them simply because of what his clients have said. He uses the term "primary soulmate" and my take on it is that it is the same as twin flame/twin soul. With one exception: He does not believe that we work out karma with many other souls and only come together in life with our primary soulmate here in our final physical incarnation when all of that old karma with others is complete. The book covers what the soul does in Life Between Lives (I call it Heaven) in depth. And YEAH, there's a lot we're doing when we're not here! This is a great read and quite a fast read. I resonated with just about every word.

As far as YouTube videos, there have been a few that resonated. Twin Flames Sacred Keys has over eighty and many of those resonate for me. "The Soul Knows" is one of those. Yes, she markets a program which is apparently angelically-channeled, that is supposed to prepare the twins for sacred reunion. Or ONE twin if there is one who is awakened enough to see that something special is happening!; in my case, that would be me! I plan on purchasing her program simply because I do see egoic issues showing up in my life and really limiting my ability to love without fear. "IF" all of these experiences I've had around this guy are simply nudges from Source to get ready, then heck, I'd better get ready. (For myself, I haven't been able to "stick" with one of Mel's videos for more than five minutes. They just don't connect for me.) This is NOT judgement about either he or Nicole or the work they do or on whether or not their information resonates with any of you. You all don't know me yet but please know that anything I say is never ever ever intended to be judgment about any one of you or anything you share. That's not who I am.

Ceri, thanks for sharing about the "1974" thing. I'm still curious about that one. My daughter is Scorpio sun with moon, venus and pluto in Scorpio (still not sure if she's Rainbow or Crystal although the literature out there points to Rainbow) and oh my goodness, the girl is not only psychic as h*ll, but a walking truth-o-meter! I thought "I" couldn't tolerate dishonesty! And my brother, the Indigo, has no tolerance for it either. Somehow, we're all geared for being able to spot it instantly and none of us can tolerate it.

Sheesh, I'm all over the place here.

Back to the discussion. I too am SO strongly tied to some of these time periods you've mentioned. Arthurian (but I can't watch any of it anymore; it breaks my heart); Henry VIII - same thing; Jane Austen's era resonates strongly as does the Victorian era; WWII - oh my gosh, I SOAKED UP WWII movies for years. Memories of being a beautiful Jewish woman who was the mistress of an SS officer (no, he didn't know) and the guilt that she lived with that she lived a lavish lifestyle while her family and friends were starving and disappearing. "The Titanic" - another movie that hit me in the GUT. Utterly devastated me. I'll never watch it again. It hits too close to home. Yeah, I had to have been there.

I have a huge resistance to anything Asian. And Egyptian, although I have had one past-life memory of being a royal consort during that time. I'm guessing the resistance is tied to really harsh lifetimes in those locales.

I carry a terrible fear of igniting fuel lines. I need to be outside if a pilot light is lit, the anxiety is so thick. And an even bigger fear of heights, especially heights over water. (Pushed off the highest tower of a castle into the moat, hands and feet bound. Bridge collapsing into a river under the weight of a barreling military coach while I, a monk, was traversing across it. My vehicle flying off Highway 1 in the Central Coast area in CA and drowning in the ocean as the car was sucked under the waves.)

My memories of lives with my twin flame are scattered. Victorian England, South Carolina plantation, ancient Greece during one of the wars, a Roman war, Marie Antoinette's court.

The next post I'll attempt will be my story. I warn you. It's LONG. I'll include my birth information and his at the bottom. The transits at the times of two of the dream/psychic occurrences were stunning to me. Transits and/or natal positions and conjuntions/oppositions of Psyche, Vertex, nodes, the sexual planets and karmic asteroids - my mind was spinning and I'm an amateur. I'm sure I didn't catch them all.

Thank you all for your welcome and for sharing so openly. You have no idea how much it means to me. I've been carrying this one, this so-unbelievable/fantastic/unfathomable chain of events largely alone, for too long.

Blessings,

Michelle

posted February 22, 2014 12:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I always had difficulties to access my own feelings, as if they were hidden from me, vague, foggy, somehow out of reach, detachd from immediate experience (only true in retrospect, after analyis, in remembering), I never was really sure, really knew what I was feeling, of what I thought I was feeling was really a feeling and not a veiled thought.

In that moment there was no way to mistake this experience for anything but what it was. I felt. Intensely. Instantly. Presently. Here and Now.

Since then I know what it really means, and though I had my relapses (still have them at times), but I noticed that the more weight I lost (Minus 40 kilo so far), the closer to the surface my feelings came.
They are VERY close now. I do not always have names for what I feel. But I do feel. This I know.

And no matter what label I give this connection, what name I find for it, I will be eternally grateful for him being instrumental in this experience for me, this opening up - and yes, let`s face it my heartchakra needed a huge opening up, and that is what happened-
and even though I was refusing to admit it - even to myself, as I am so very good in selfdenial- for years, it`s true, I do feel for him. Something. Something greater, something beyond words, something that I do not have a category for, something that defies rigid defintions, something that my mind cannot grasp. But it`s something good. REALLY good.

Is it love?

I`ve been in love before I think. This is. Differnt. More. Deeper. Infinite. Yet not graspable - for me- in normal social terms. It`s just. different. And for once in my life my mind is completely speechless, thoughtless, not able to grasp, define, analyze, rationalize, put into words.
But my heart, my soul, knows.

I am not always sure what exactly my soul knows, but it knows. I still have to find a way to have my soul and heart clearly communicate with my mind. LOL

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Ceri,

I can say the same. If I don't seem as responsive, rest assured, I READ. I process. It stays with me.

Oddly enough, a very unexpected conversation popped up at - 16:49 today. Fate called. I'm ill, and my husband answered. For the hell of it, I guess. Now, they've hung out, talked before, and so on.

But I REALLY didn't think he'd say what he did.

He said how I told him not to answer, ( ... thaaaanks,) because of my weak voice and sore throat (but, y'know, didn't mention that part). While I'd been hunting for a working thermometre in my bathroom, I returned to take the call.

'No, I'M talking to him. HE listens to - and remembers what I say,' he says, oddly playful. He then goes on to gripe about how my boyfriend does not.

Yes. My boyfriend.

I flew back into the room, reiterating in case he'd missed it.

'He's not my boyfriend!'

My husband goes on to explain how he's clearly my boyfriend. We have a fairly regular sexual relationship, and we're friends. What else is that?

We both say, in unison, 'uhh, that's friends with benefits.'

To which my husband then says, 'oh, well, sorry, clearly you guys have your own word for it.'

Really? He was obviously being facetious. And yet, it was strange.

The long and short of it was that Fate misunderstood what my husband meant, and felt it imperative to state that he and I never became sexual - and 'not for lack of my trying'. (He was denying all accountability as of January 2013, so, THAT wasn't surprising. :eye-roll: Heh.)

So my husband filled him in, saying, 'of course, I don't mean you. I know you haven't.'

Oh.

THAT's kinda awkward.

So, after he tells him he misses talking to him and gave him a great bit of new material, he handed it back to me, and I apologised for the crazy awkwardness of that. But he loved it as only one lunar Sag man can to another, I suppose. 'That was amazing! I wish all of my conversations could be that awesome.'

... Well, okay then.

As my husband said some time later after disconnecting, he's now accelerated our emotional intimacy back to where it was years ago. I no longer had to wonder if we were going to have that level of emotional intimacy again. Or, for awhile. Not that it wouldn't naturally happen again - but to THAT level? We were just reacclimating to working together again. And, it's hard to not be friends at all. But THAT's ...

Wow.

And it doesn't end there.

So, shortly before hanging up, he adds that my husband is only acting like he's okay with my relationship. That he wants to be, is trying to be, but really isn't. An FYI. That he really felt he should tell me.

... Wha?

Of course, THEN he had to go.

Now, while it's complex, my husband and I are very close with a stronger intimacy than most marriages. So I know the nuances.

But how the hell did he? In maybe 3 minutes of conversation? How did he read between those lines so quickly?

I hadn't had the chance to tell him that, yes, recently, my husband HAS been having issues with it.

Because he's deciding he really just isn't liking the relationship. He's too insular. He's too private. He's too closed off, and not easygoing like he is.

And so my husband came to a bizarre realisation tonight.

He LIKES him. He has a good relationship, a great rapport with Fate. Why? 'We get each other, I think. We read each other. We're both - we have an understanding. We can be honest. We hate each other less than we hate most everybody else, which is bizarre. Because I know he only hates me because you married me. And I only hate him because he's the man you're fated to be with.'

Wha? Hang on. Did you - ?

Not that he hasn't before, but this time it was ... meaningful somehow.

He went on to say that, honestly, he wishes that I was with him instead. He's basically found his own sense of security in our relationship and our marriage. As we kind of wondered, he has a difficult time with it being the man it is - because it's not Fate, but a 'proxy' of sorts, as we've both said at some point. A soulmate in his own right, but the one that makes sense to my husband is Fate. If it were him, then there's something strangely right about it.

... Wow.

I'm still processing that.

While it's a ship that's sailed (though, not in my husband's eyes; despite Fate's prior protestations and cutting and running in the 11th hour, and my own reservations and reticence since) my husband considers it a foregone conclusion. That, some day, it'll be THAT day - and he's actually okay with it, because of who it is.

I feel strangely blessed.

I feel as if, in these moments, the vestigial or otherwise misshapen parts of my life are actually exactly right when viewed from another perspective.

I'm not entirely sure what the future holds, but it oddly appears that the man I chose has a bizarre understanding of the man who affects me beyond reason and sense. He seems to even grok why I have the relationship I do now, as it's part of the greater whole of my development. Of, possibly, our evolution.

In terms of love, Ceri, I can relate more to that statement than you know. Fate made me feel. I kept trying to complete the sentence when the truth was it ends there.

He makes me FEEL.

My husband has learnt commitment with me. We've learnt how to choose to love in the proverbial good times and bad, to dedicate ourselves in spite of everything, and love each other. We've also learnt how to love each other using a different playbook that most wouldn't touch.

I railed against loving Fate for years, until I realised I just do; it just is. That's around when I told him. The same way, too. I just do. It just is.

Of course, it's too overwhelming, too frightening for anything beyond what we have. Sex is for non-intimate relations. Sex is for casual encounters with those who you may or may not see again. Sex is not to be combined with love. If you love someone, that takes sex off the table.

I do wish, in spite of myself, that I could show him one day that the two can be a brilliant combination. That is, once I've learnt enough myself. I'm even scared now. But not so afraid I'll risk losing what we have. Just too afraid to stray too close to where we were.

But it's a hell of a journey, isn't it?

posted February 22, 2014 02:18 AM            

Indigo, I am blown away by how you are all so able to include "what is". The emotional and spiritual maturity between the three of you as you all come to terms with truth is enviable. I envy it. I don't know that I could be in that place, in your circumstances. Or in your husband's. Or even in Fate's. I'm still too attached to outcome(s).

I think you are all learning (or may even have already learned) what love actually is. Love. Beyond all of the romantic meanings that we glue all over it like sticky notes.

Thank you both so much, again, for sharing.

posted February 22, 2014 04:26 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by micole maree:
Thank you SO much for the warm welcome, Indigo, Lavender and Ceri! I so appreciate it.

I'm not tech-savvy and don't know how to copy several pieces of so many differing posts to respond to what you shared so I'll attempt this willy-nilly.

Ceri, I think you mentioned a preference for hearing about people's experiences over the theories and attempts to understand. I really resonate with that as well. But I know for myself that so much of this is so not-relateable to whatever is "normal" that we take that driving need to know and understand to trying to find whatever information we can that, yes, RESONATES.

I know I do.

Off the top, I'll mention a book "Journey of Souls" that very much resonated with me. The author is a hypnotherapist who accidentally regressed a client into a state where he talked about where his soul resided before coming to Earth. Out of that first experience, the author then used the same technique to regress over fifty other clients to the same ("superconscious") state and found, astoundingly, that the accounts were all consistent. He asked questions of his clients so that he could fill in details and better understand. This author actually takes exception with the idea of Twin Flames, as most of us hear about them and read about them simply because of what his clients have said. He uses the term "primary soulmate" and my take on it is that it is the same as twin flame/twin soul. With one exception: He does not believe that we work out karma with many other souls and only come together in life with our primary soulmate here in our final physical incarnation when all of that old karma with others is complete. The book covers what the soul does in Life Between Lives (I call it Heaven) in depth. And YEAH, there's a lot we're doing when we're not here! This is a great read and quite a fast read. I resonated with just about every word.

As far as YouTube videos, there have been a few that resonated. Twin Flames Sacred Keys has over eighty and many of those resonate for me. "The Soul Knows" is one of those. Yes, she markets a program which is apparently angelically-channeled, that is supposed to prepare the twins for sacred reunion. Or ONE twin if there is one who is awakened enough to see that something special is happening!; in my case, that would be me! I plan on purchasing her program simply because I do see egoic issues showing up in my life and really limiting my ability to love without fear. "IF" all of these experiences I've had around this guy are simply nudges from Source to get ready, then heck, I'd better get ready. (For myself, I haven't been able to "stick" with one of Mel's videos for more than five minutes. They just don't connect for me.) This is NOT judgement about either he or Nicole or the work they do or on whether or not their information resonates with any of you. You all don't know me yet but please know that anything I say is never ever ever intended to be judgment about any one of you or anything you share. That's not who I am.

Ceri, thanks for sharing about the "1974" thing. I'm still curious about that one. My daughter is Scorpio sun with moon, venus and pluto in Scorpio (still not sure if she's Rainbow or Crystal although the literature out there points to Rainbow) and oh my goodness, the girl is not only psychic as h*ll, but a walking truth-o-meter! I thought "I" couldn't tolerate dishonesty! And my brother, the Indigo, has no tolerance for it either. Somehow, we're all geared for being able to spot it instantly and none of us can tolerate it.

Sheesh, I'm all over the place here.

Back to the discussion. I too am SO strongly tied to some of these time periods you've mentioned. Arthurian (but I can't watch any of it anymore; it breaks my heart); Henry VIII - same thing; Jane Austen's era resonates strongly as does the Victorian era; WWII - oh my gosh, I SOAKED UP WWII movies for years. Memories of being a beautiful Jewish woman who was the mistress of an SS officer (no, he didn't know) and the guilt that she lived with that she lived a lavish lifestyle while her family and friends were starving and disappearing. "The Titanic" - another movie that hit me in the GUT. Utterly devastated me. I'll never watch it again. It hits too close to home. Yeah, I had to have been there.

I have a huge resistance to anything Asian. And Egyptian, although I have had one past-life memory of being a royal consort during that time. I'm guessing the resistance is tied to really harsh lifetimes in those locales.

I carry a terrible fear of igniting fuel lines. I need to be outside if a pilot light is lit, the anxiety is so thick. And an even bigger fear of heights, especially heights over water. (Pushed off the highest tower of a castle into the moat, hands and feet bound. Bridge collapsing into a river under the weight of a barreling military coach while I, a monk, was traversing across it. My vehicle flying off Highway 1 in the Central Coast area in CA and drowning in the ocean as the car was sucked under the waves.)

My memories of lives with my twin flame are scattered. Victorian England, South Carolina plantation, ancient Greece during one of the wars, a Roman war, Marie Antoinette's court.

The next post I'll attempt will be my story. I warn you. It's LONG. I'll include my birth information and his at the bottom. The transits at the times of two of the dream/psychic occurrences were stunning to me. Transits and/or natal positions and conjuntions/oppositions of Psyche, Vertex, nodes, the sexual planets and karmic asteroids - my mind was spinning and I'm an amateur. I'm sure I didn't catch them all.

Thank you all for your welcome and for sharing so openly. You have no idea how much it means to me. I've been carrying this one, this so-unbelievable/fantastic/unfathomable chain of events largely alone, for too long.

Blessings,

Michelle

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posted February 22, 2014 05:02 AM              

Have you tried it on your progressive composite charts on meeting dates to see if the NAME asteroids cross anything? i thought that'll be interesting if it does.

posted February 22, 2014 06:30 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Do you use your NAME asteroids?

Have you tried it on your progressive composite charts on meeting dates to see if the NAME asteroids cross anything? i thought that'll be interesting if it does.

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Yes, I occasionally do.

Checking the first meeting chart (22nd may 2008):

° His name on 8.13 Gemini on DESC (2 degrees)

° my name on 7.54 Pisces

my natal and progressed chart
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° DESC on 7.01 Gemini (so his transiting name wsa conjunct my DESC)

° my pr KAALI on 8.01 Gemini

° my pr PSYCHE on 7.49 Pisces

° his pr NAME on 6.01 Aquarius

his natal and progressed chart
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° his EROS on 8.21 Pisces
° my NAME on 9.10 Pisces

° his NAME on 10.26 Virgo
° His Mars on 11.06 Virgo
° his Jupiter on 10.10 Virgo
° his AMOR on 9.03 Virgo

° his KAALI on 6.47 Sag

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° his pr PSYCHE on 6.50 Pisces

natal and pr composite
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° pr c PSYCHE on 7.20 Pisces
° pr C Moon on 6.40 Pisces

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another pattern I found interesting

first meeting chart
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SIVA on 12.37 Pisces
PARVATI on 14.01 Pisces

PSYCHE 15.59 Scorpio

my natal and progressed
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SIVA 14.58 Scorpio
his NAME 13.51 Capricorn
my NAME 16.59 Taurus

And a progressed SIVA-PARVATI-square on 25 SCorpio (conj. my n Val) and 26 Leo

his natal and progressed
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° pr PARVATI on 13.22 Pisces (right hit by the transiting Siva-Parvati-conjunction)

° pr Moon on 12.48 Capricorn

natal and progressed composite
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° my name: 13.04 Aries

° his name: 12.08 Scorpio
Uranus (chartruler). 12.23 Scorpio

° EROS: 14.40 Taurus (remember where transiting Psyche was? lol)

° pr c KAALI On 14.10 PIsces

there`s probably more but I think i is enough for a start

Curiously, when he was approaching me once during a show

my transiting name: 25.50 Virgo
PRECISELY on his natal DESC and conjunct his SAturn and Vertex - lol, as if he had known!
it was also sextile his Juno

But then again he seems to surround himself with women who have the same name as me, I suppose the fact that my name is cnojunct Eros in his chart (though in 12th house) makes him resonate a little with this name`s energy

I have not THAT many guys with his name in my surroundings, however recently a lot of pupils tend to be named like him. It?s curious.

his transiting name on that date was on 15 Cancer, conjunct my Saturn, and trine my Juno.

our respective names were highlighting our natal Saturn-Juno-aspect for both of us.

During our last encounter

his transiting name was precisely conjunct his Moon and MC, and in 2 degree conjunction to my Sun (and on my Circe, Sekhmet, Reiki, Nofretete as well. lol)

my name on the other hand was on 11 Cap, conjunct my Spirit-Guinevere, which is conjunct his Arthur-Merlin,c uriously exact on 11 Cap.
And of course my transiting name was conjunct his name in my chart

BTW on 15th january our names were exactly conjunct in the sky, on 2 Aquarius, conjunct our composite ASC on 1 Aquarius (with Anubis on there as well).

Curiously this as the day I suddenly found his name in my email-account. ROFL
No, not a personal email, a newsletter for the release of his cd, but thre was something so weird about it.

First of all, yes, I had A LONG TIME ago tried to sign up for a newsletter, but got the notification it had failed, so I thought it wasn`t meant to be and just did not work, and had failed, and I never got any newsletter, so I forgot about it.

Secondly, I had signed up for a newsletter on his official band-project, but the email was sent from his personal private website (which of course due to Mercury retro crashed by now, as it did after we first met. lol); actually the mail was sent a bit before midnight from his smartphone, while he was supposed to be on a trip with his assumed girlfriend. LOL

Nevertheless, not only I received that newsletter when the transiting ASC was exactly conjunct his natal ASC and my Draconic DESC, butn now I see there was also a conjunction of our names on our composite ASC? Freaky.

Well, just for fun I was checking the date, when I will see him as Artus end of april (24th of course - always always the 3-6-9 sequence, can`t escape it).

my transiting name will be on 12 Pisces just having passed his natal conjunction of my name and EROS.

his ransiting name will be on 9 Aries, exact on my ALICE; Indigo. lol, but also quinkunx his name in his chart. Opposite my Pluto.

so my transiting name will be trine his name in our composite exact (12 Pisces-12 Scorpio

his transiting name will be loosely conjunct my name in composite (9 Aries - 13 Aries).

Fittingly on that very day - and I remind you ARTUS, EXCALIBUR - how fitting for our Arthur-Guinevere-conjunction, right?

progressed composite LANCELOT On 12 Scorpio, right on his name-URanus in our composite!

transiting LANCELOT will be on 16.47 Scorpio - my own natal LANCELOT is on 16.47 Scorpio, too. Yeah, I am al for precision! lol

A Lancelot-return. lol

Transiting GUINEVERE on 15.34 Cap actually conjuncts our compostie ARTHUR on 16.38 Cap

And transiting aRTHUR conjuncts our composite ASC on 1 Aquarius exact. (orb is 0°01!)

posted February 22, 2014 06:45 AM            

When I described how sometimes it feels like I can sense his energy around, the same that Lavender wrote about, it is not always like that.
I mean I cannot "make" it happen. It just happens at random times, but I can`t "conjure it up" just how I would like to.

For example this morning, I was thinking of him. I always do when I wake up. First thought - well this time I also had dreamed of him- and while slowly waking up, I was sort of "knocking at his spiritual door", like my spirit was reaching out to him, but in a most polite way.
HOwever, while I felt *something*, it was not nearly as intense as it can sometimes get, sometimes he might just have other things to do. lol
So I thought okay, this one of these days when there is no connecton at all. Not even a fantasized one - on my behalf.
Of course I accept it.

Well, turns out he has posted - or reposted- a video with snippets from songs from his cd the VERY time I "knocked at his spirtual door".

The short snippet of that song, of these lyrics get to me everytime (from a musical of course).

"God I need your guidance
Tell me what it means
To live a life where nothings as it seems.
Spending days in silent fear,
And spending nights in lonely prayer.
Hoping that one day when you wake,
Those feelings wont be there."

Been hoping that for years, but they always are. And by now I just accept it for what it is. One day the feelings are there very prominently, the sense of a connection, his energy around, and on other days - not.
Trying to go with the flow, but by now I have to admit to myself, it`s not simply going to blow over, to go away.

posted February 22, 2014 07:24 AM            

I'll use MELETE for me, but there's still uncertainty regarding which to use for him.

posted February 22, 2014 07:53 AM            

It was like meeting me, or someone with my name and my Psyche-position was literally written in the stars for him.

And to make it a complete picture, it hooked into our composite as well, as transiting PSYCHE was opposite our composite EROS, which is actually conjunct my name in my natal (and overlaying our synastric ARIADNE-BACCHUS-opposition).

So EROS-PSYCHE all through his natal progressions, progressed synastry, composite, including our names (though my name most prominently) and set off by the transits.

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That was it for EROS - PSYCHE,

but then there was SIVA-PARVATI - as well.

Transiting SIVA-PARVATI-conjunction on 12 and 14 Pisces

his pr PARVATI on 13 Pisces

pr composite KAALI on 14 Pisces conjunct pr composite ASC on 14 Pisces exact (I think I forgot to mention. lol)

my contribution here was maybe not as great, but my natal SIVA was still trine on 14.58 Scorpio (and my Moira is on my Siva-degree as well).

it also was loosely sextile my name in my chart on 16 Taurus and his name in my chart on 13 CAp.

I was maybe not as strongly resonating with this one, but it still was gobsmacking to see.

Also it was prescribed from the natals.

me having a progressed Siva-Parvati-square.
plus Transiting Siva/Parvati trine natal Siva.

for him he didn`t have a progressed-natal Siva/Parvati in his chart.

However the transiting Siva/Parvati and composite ASC/Kaali was closely conjunct his progressed Parvati.

As a matter of fact his pr Siva was trine my Kaali and my natal Parvati was on his pr Siva/Parvati-midpoint.

The first meeting chart also had a Kali-Mahakala-conjunction in Gemini in 7th house (what a day this was! a Siva-Parvati AND a Kaali-Mahakala-conjunction in the sky!)

posted February 22, 2014 08:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
From my understanding, TwinFlames don't have past lives.
That is because prior to coming down on earth, they were already a one soul, one entity.
It is only when they came to 3–dimensional reality that they took on two forms of male and female, because that is the natural law of this planet; opposites, yin/yang.

It is soulmates that usually tend to have karma from past lives, and go lifetime after lifetime searching for and reconnecting with one another.
Simply for gaining experience towards becoming a graduate soul.

TwinFlames however are multidimension beings, and therefore have soul extensions in parallel realities.
They are there in case they decide to blow it lol, so they are acting as "back ups", in a way.
And in those parallel realities their soul extensions can play any role, be with and marry other people as well, which will be soulmates, or they can be with their own twins.
They are having an human experience afterall.

But I do agree with you on the good karma stuff—I like calling it destiny, personally.

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posted February 22, 2014 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by micole maree:
I'm a very interested soul who spent the better part of yesterday reading this entire thread. Eavesdropping, if you will.

And I'm a newbie. Here on these forums, and to astrology. I've been investigating it for thirty years, on and off, but with more devotion over the last four years. So much to learn. SO many questions.

I have a V.E.R.Y. long and personal story, with paranormal and psychic overtones much like the stories shared here. But our charts do not have references to 2 Libra or 27 Sag. (But then I don't have his birth time nailed down completely, and his Sag moon could conceivably land on that point, given a corresponding right birth time.)

I AM curious about something. How close in age are all of you that DO have these two points active in your charts? I was born before the influx of Indigo souls that came here. But there is a part of me that is wondering if these two astrological points could be pointers to a specific group of souls, incarnating from a specific point in the universe or planet, or even an entire soul family, that arrived here during a specific time?

Please forgive this question, IndigoDirae (sp? Sorry, going from memory here), if it contradicts or completely kinks up all the research you've been doing. My intuition is pretty strong and I have felt *something* about the two points you've mentioned as I've been reading.

My understanding is that Indigos started arriving en masse in the early 1970's, with a few scout souls that arrived here before that. I was born in 1959, well before this time, but my brother was born in 1974 and exhibits ALL of the Indigo characteristics. So personally, I'd love to know where you all fit in here, as far as an age range goes.

I'm having trouble getting a chart from Astro to PhotoBucket. If there is any interest at all in viewing my chart and this other guy's (the one with all of the weird stuff, paranormal, OBE's, deja vu, psychic connection, soul recognition through locked eyes [described in one of the stories here, exactly as I experienced it], etc over the last twenty-plus years), I'll post dates for you. For now, I don't want to be presumptive. I'm not really clear on the etiquette in these forums and want to be sure I have something of interest to offer before I post.

Thank you ALL for what you've shared. Your stories, your exploration through what these aspects could mean and how they could play out. Your personal experiences touched me deeply. (Crystal, I wish yours hadn't been deleted! I suspect you've had some unfathomable experiences as well.) Thank you so much for sharing. You've helped me, with my own unfathomable experiences, to feel as though I'm not so alone, after all.

In the end, I look back at how my Twin Flame/Primary Soulmate/what-have-you came to me in a dream and AWAKENED me. The experience gave me the desire to get healthier and the courage to leave a highly abusive relationship. I am now on a dedicated spiritual path.

It IS, for me, as IQ said: "Wouldn't it be lovely if as IQ said, "A Twin Flame will initiate the development of the Heart Chakra and will trigger the awareness of one's Immortal Nature."

Blessings,

Michelle

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posted February 22, 2014 08:29 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
BTW, I still don't follow the whole 'feel the connexion' thing in terms of chakra activation.

What do you guys mean by that?

Far as I can tell, I haven't experienced it, or have no idea what it is if I have. That's foreign to me, in any case.

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posted February 22, 2014 08:33 AM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Also my experience with clairaudience that has been activated since I met him,

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Can you hear him talking in your mind, too?
I mean like really physically hear?

So far this has been most intense (but with regularity) after I have seen him somewhere, the night following, I am in that strange weird state. Not really sleeping, not really awake, though a lot of tossing and turning tends to happen, because the energy is just so strong.

And usually I will hear his voice in my head, shreds of words, fragments, sometimes just distant murmuring, like overhearing, or hearing through his ears. and he will just not shut up and let me go to sleep. LOL

posted February 22, 2014 08:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I didn`t dare say it, but I had the same feeling.

He is one who resonates dis-sonantly with me, but at the same time I respect him, from the videos he did.

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posted February 22, 2014 08:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Agreed 100%

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