posted February 23, 2014 12:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Lol yes, I can imagine it will be very different in person indeed.
We shall see how it goes lol

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My best advice is know what you know, and let that support you during the difficult times. When you're basically starting from scratch, and there's such a high level of intensity already, you can find yourself living and dying by his reactions and responses to you.

Plus the whole unlikelihood that he's approaching it from the same level you are. Now, if he's writing and singing of an experience which sounds like Twinflames to you, there might be a greater chance he'd be receptive.

But you have to bear in mind that the relationship thus far has essentially been happening in your head. And THAT's hard. The ideal is to one day be able to share these things with him, and hear a similar response. But that sort of validation could be a ways away.

posted February 23, 2014 12:21 AM            

What double-whammies do we have in our synastries?

Do we have several or only a few? Is it mostly in Tropical? Helio? Draco?

posted February 23, 2014 12:32 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I can relate to this, too. He brought out in me what my ex wasn't, and inspired me to follow the lyrics of a song which spoke heavily to me then:

Look around just people;
Can you hear their voice?
Find the one who guides you to the limits of your choice.
If you're in the eye of the storm,
Think of the lovely dove.
It's the experience of survival,
Holds the key,
To the gravity of love.

He inspired me to fall in love again. A very dear soulmate came into my life as the sheer catalyst, and I left. 4 years, and I just picked up and left. Ended it 14 November 2007. 20 December, I moved out; grabbing all I could and stuffing it into Soulsister 1's car. He was in NY celebrating Christmas with money he didn't have with friends who evidently hated me. (I wonder why.) And I never looked back.

Man. Did things change. I'll never forget the way he was when I was newly unattached, single again. Sigh. The fact he could just deny all of that .... Anyway. Fear. It'll do that.

So, from one abuse survivor to another, I hear you, Michelle. I feel you. Gabby does, too, in this regard. We've all been there.

There's a permanent, but harmless scratch on the outer lens, over my cornea, on my left eye, where he hit me. Only once. Once was enough to start planning The Escape. (Year-long, but at least planning.) It's only visible in very bright environments. A little dark speck on the edge of my vision, left eye.

A reminder. An effective one.

When things began to deteriorate in my marriage, it was largely due to my husband's egoism and selfishness. He freely admits that now. He began dating and later married a shell of a woman, whose heart had been locked away; who believed someone needed to make her into someone lovable, worthy of someone else.

But then I remembered how I was loved in my last relationship - and not by the man I was with. It was the combined companionship of Fate and the man who's now my husband that got me through.

And, as you said, it is what it is. The rest will be the rest. Whatever that is.

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Indigo.

The song lyrics speak. To me, for me, of me. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you too for your story. Abuse can be such an isolating thing. Especially when the nature of the beast is to not really realize that we've absorbed a belief about ourselves somewhere along the way, that in some way it was all because of some kind of unworthiness. Rooting out that old garbage and replacing the lies with Truth takes some time. And self-love.

The way you've found peace with and acceptance of "what is" gives me hope. I suspect I'm not the only one here feeling that way.

I can't keep up with all of the posts! Please, all of you, know that I'm reading every detail, soaking them in, honoring your stories and who you are and sending love.

Yes, Indigo, I think I need your help. I'm going to astro to try, once AGAIN, to get this stuff to upload there.

And Summerlite, I found the helio option on astro when I saw it mentioned way earlier on this thread. But I'm not seeing where to request a circular chart? I apologize if I'm just blind. And I'm so new to astrology that a lot of terms are new to me.

Lavender, LOL! It probably doesn't "count"! But the physical attraction, the connection, the lust/bliss/contentment were unmistakable. Off the charts and unmistakable. If it was THAT GOOD and it wasn't even completely conscious, I definitely want the experience of the real thing.

Maybe someday. When his karmic stuff is done. Maybe someday.

posted February 23, 2014 12:45 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
My best advice is know what you know, and let that support you during the difficult times. When you're basically starting from scratch, and there's such a high level of intensity already, you can find yourself living and dying by his reactions and responses to you.

Plus the whole unlikelihood that he's approaching it from the same level you are. Now, if he's writing and singing of an experience which sounds like Twinflames to you, there might be a greater chance he'd be receptive.

But you have to bear in mind that the relationship thus far has essentially been happening in your head. And THAT's hard. The ideal is to one day be able to share these things with him, and hear a similar response. But that sort of validation could be a ways away.

Are you writing a book? Y'know, just to have it all together. You could always self-publish it later. Then you could share it with him, if and when you felt the time was right. Years from now, obviously. But it'd be good to have.

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True true...

But I still find it very strange that what he sings and blogs is very similar to what I have been experiencing as well.
Not to mention the dreams and other synchs we shared, etc.
Its just all too spooky.

And no I'm not planning on writing any book, as I don't have the skills to do so lol.
But I have been recording everything in my notes.

Besides, I feel that stuff is kind of private too...
I wouldn't feel so comfortable sharing it publicly, because it would just sound too wack lol.

And if we were to get talking and serious, then maybe I will share it him, if he hints at similar experiences of course.
If not then he doesn't need to know. He's already done his job of awakening me

And one more thing, I am not and will not ever be dependant on his reaction to me...
Because it still wont change what I feel and all that I've experienced.
I have already let go of that.
LOL I've even long forgotten about my comment on his fb I made about a week ago. I don't mull over weather he's seen it or not. Because quiet honestly, I don't care much anymore.
I'm happy any other way.

posted February 23, 2014 01:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Btw,

I find it funny how you all remind me of him in a way
You all share certain coincidences pertaining to him, such as his profession, where he was born, where he lives now, etc, and there's probably more lol.

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posted February 23, 2014 01:23 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Heh! If he's a recording artist in LA, and anywhere near Venice, I'd be surprised I haven't run into him, honestly.

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posted February 23, 2014 01:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
He is lol. Maybe you have!
Hahahah it'd be so funny xD

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Oh, yeah. Venice is tiny. We're about 6 blocks from the Downeys - and the beach. In the other direction, it's another 10 blocks - and you're basically into another county. Very cool area, though.

I work with a lot of recording artists, actors, and other creative professionals. There's a guy in Venice who's from Canada who I licensed some music for LACHESIS from. Nice fellow; really liked certain songs. We became friends on Stage 32, and then chuckled at being in Venice.

posted February 23, 2014 01:31 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Oh, yeah. Venice is tiny. We're about 6 blocks from the Downeys - and the beach. In the other direction, it's another 10 blocks - and you're basically into another county. Very cool area, though.

I work with a lot of recording artists, actors, and other creative professionals. There's a guy in Venice who's from Canada who I licensed some music for LACHESIS from. Nice fellow; really liked certain songs. We became friends on Stage 32, and then chuckled at being in Venice.

Sigh. Oh, LACHESIS. One day.

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Really? That's great!

He's in LA, moved there from Germany actually.
Though he's not that well known in the US.

posted February 23, 2014 01:36 AM            

I can't post DW's unless I recreate every chart option that I think fits, because of a lack of birth time.

posted February 23, 2014 01:40 AM            

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Originally posted by micole maree:
Help. I'm trying to pull a helio chart from astro without a birth time and it won't let me. I also can't find mention of a "circular chart" option.

I can't post DW's unless I recreate every chart option that I think fits, because of a lack of birth time.

Any instructions are greatly appreciated!

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posted February 23, 2014 02:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Oh you can just make a day chart and select 12:00 pm as the birth time.
It puts the moon within 6 degrees of the possibly correct position.

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THANK YOU, Lavender! That I can do.

I'd still love to know how to do this helio circular chart without a birth time, if anyone has time to instruct me. (Thank you. )

posted February 23, 2014 02:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Oh you can just make a day chart and select 12:00 pm as the birth time.
It puts the moon within 6 degrees of the possibly correct position.

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Correct; or a sunrise; which is typically 5:00 or 6:00. It tends to put the SUN on the ASC.

posted February 23, 2014 02:08 AM            

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Originally posted by micole maree:
THANK YOU, Lavender! That I can do.

I'd still love to know how to do this helio circular chart without a birth time, if anyone has time to instruct me. (Thank you. )

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Ceri is our mistress of Helio. 😉 I'd ask her advice on setting that up.

posted February 23, 2014 02:50 AM            

Please, Ceri, if you have time, I'd love some instructions on how to set up the helio.

Are we only listing DWs or conjunctions, trines, etc as well?

And are we referencing one chart to another, such as natal/composite or synastry/natal, etc?

posted February 23, 2014 05:42 AM            

But for now Ijust want to share, well, last night was quite amazing, in that I could feel a merging of energies, I cannot explain it differently (it has happened before, but of course not every night, or every week).
The beautiful thing about it is, that afterwards I just feel so energized in a calm and centred way. Maybe slightly intoxicated. lol

When I glided into sleep (I rarely fall asleep, I float there), I was somewhere outside and looking up at Orion. Which I actually had been doing last night, too, together with my parents. But while in that dream I was looking up at Orion and I was thinking of Patrick and what he really means for my life, suddenly a shooting star was racing across the sky from the western side, right beside Alnitak, and crossing to the east, and then it was practically immediately followed by a second, identically looking shooting star.
The thing that surprised and amazed me was for once it was no "shooting star season", and secondly they were looking rather big and actually golden-orange. Which seemed an unusual colour for a shooting star.

Anyway, and then in a blink of an eye it suddenly was day, whcih I almost regretted, cause I would have liked to look up into the velvet sky some more. There had been no dawn. No. One moment it was deepest night, and then I blinked my eyes, and it was the sunniest day imagineable.
While I was still standing there and processing this, a neighbour approached, with his dog. Actually one sheepdog, and another smaller white dog. The sheepdog was running free and was running towards me. The neighbour looked startled (well as a kid I had some run-ins with his sheepdog actually, and not all friendly.lol). But I was rather calm, and saying a command to the dog and he came to a halt in front of me, as I knew he would.

I have been dreaming of the same dog repeatedly for the last months, and even maybe 2 weeks ago. And while in the first dreams I was scared of it, becuase it was a big dog, who seemed to consist of only teeth and paws, and I am scared of dogs often. Period.
Well, in these last dreams, this dog would always take my hand into his mouth, but not biting, so carefully that he didnīt even bruise the skin of my hand.
And especially in that last dream, he wouldnīt leave my side at all, and even looking at me as if he was in love with me. It was little weird, but there was so much affection in this dog`s eyes.
I was puzzled about that in the last dream, but my guide in that dream told me that he was always waiting for me, until I returned there again (I was somewhere else, not exactly on earth, or at least not in this physical dimension of earth).

So in last night`s dream I knew that he wouldnīt do anything to hurt me, he was just happy to see me and maybe a little stormy in showing this. lol

And as a bonus I was being woken up with a song, he (Patrick, not the dog) was singing on THE concert, you know the one when my defenses simply crumbled.

" So close, no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trust in who we are
And nothing else matters

Never opened myself this way
Life is ours, we live it our way
All these words, I don't just say
And nothing else matters

Trust I seek and I find in you
Every day for us something new
Open mind for a different view
And nothing else matters

Never cared for what they do
Never cared for what they know
And I know

So close, no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
And nothing else matters

Never cared for what they do
Never cared for what they know
And I know, yeah

I never opened myself this way
Life is ours, we live it our way
All these words, I don't just say
And nothing else matters

Trust I seek and I find in you
Every day for us something new
Open mind for a different view
And nothing else matters

Never cared for what they say
Never cared for games they play
Never cared for what they do
Never cared for what they know
And I know, ooh, yeah

So close, no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trust in who we are
No, nothing else matters"

Well, that is what I call a good morning. Feels at least very nice.

BTW that song was directly followed by "Drops of Jupiter" lol

"Now that she's back in the atmosphere
With drops of Jupiter in her hair, hey, hey, hey
She acts like summer and walks like rain
Reminds me that there's a time to change, hey, hey, hey
Since the return from her stay on the moon
She listens like spring and she talks like June, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey

But tell me, did you sail across the sun?
Did you make it to the Milky Way to see the lights all faded
And that heaven is overrated?

Tell me, did you fall for a shooting star–
One without a permanent scar?
And did you miss me while you were looking for yourself out there?

Now that she's back from that soul vacation
Tracing her way through the constellation, hey, hey, hey (mmm)
She checks out Mozart while she does tae-bo
Reminds me that there's room to grow, hey, hey, hey (yeah)

..."

LOL

It made me laugh, cause actually in the second musical I saw him in, he was playing Mozart. lol

posted February 23, 2014 05:53 AM            

Sitting here smiling softly.

posted February 23, 2014 05:58 AM            

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Originally posted by micole maree:
Ceri, that's lovely. Just lovely.

Sitting here smiling softly.

Thank you for blessing my day.

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posted February 23, 2014 06:45 AM            

If I have already read pages, they will come up in purple, instead of blue (the number of them).

posted February 23, 2014 06:49 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[b]IQ once concluded that we both were Essenes and may have been taught by Jesus himself or one of his apostles.

Who knows? Maybe we were. lol

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Also, losing a beloved to execution, especially when it's on the grounds of bigotry and they're being made an example for some sort of administration in power, utilised to further a political ideal ... man. That's haunted me since I can remember. No idea why. I've never understood it. [/B][/QUOTE]

About the first part, well, ther was one open air he was singing this in 2010, he was creating magic that night. Not only for me. The whole audience was stunned.

For me personally somewhen during the first stanza my surroundings disappeared and I was back at the garden Gethsemane, I heard the laughter, the talks, the chirping, smelled the jasmine. It was a very strong feeling, yet at that point still, serene.

I shook it off then, just in time to see him on stage ending his song, and well shaking himself awake as it seemed, for a moment he seemed surprised as to where he was. Like he had been oblivious to it for a few moments, got really lost in the song.

Of course I am biased, but it was a very intense thing.
Come to mind, it was during THIS song exactly in one of his solo concerts, he wouldnīt leave my side for most of it, standing so closely beside/ behind me, that I couldnīt really tell where my aura ended and his began. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIN0RAvtTn4

Let me know when you have seen it, so I can take it down again

posted February 23, 2014 07:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
So I'm in at the airport waiting for my flight to texas.
The universe is constantly testing me because all this crazy drama is just arising and I have to make so many decisions
Something really tragic has happened and asked me to be with them..
I know what happened and I can't even say it because it's so horrible...
I don't even want to think about it.
The thing is he's never begged me to do a favor for him ever...
Extremely emotionally independent (Venus in aries)
of course I would come because I still care.

but idk.. my love life is a mess and far from simple...
i have a feeling how this is all going to end Im ready for it... I mean it's my destiny I guess.

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Kero,

so sorry to hear that.

posted February 23, 2014 07:07 AM            

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Originally posted by micole maree:

I know what you're asking. PHYSICALLY sexually intimate, on this plane, right? No. But physically sexually intimate on the etheric or astral plane? Yeah.

I

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That was actually my first thought reading the question, are they talking about physical or astral sex? lol

posted February 23, 2014 07:20 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Correct; or a sunrise; which is typically 5:00 or 6:00. It tends to put the SUN on the ASC.

I tend to go with midnight if I've got nothing. Then I can eliminate the possibility of the preceding sign. Sometimes it gets very close, though. When it changes that day, in other words.

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I always pick the Noon-birthtime for unknown births, as the Moon placement will only vary 6 degrees at most, while if I pick midnight and the person was born at sunset the other day the Moon is much further away from truth.

But I guess it is just a matter of preference. WE can`t really use the Moon, ASC, MC or Vertex anyway with unknown birthtimes.