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Topic: Twinflame Astrology: Techniques, Investigations, Validity
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 07:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Whatever it means, it's the Goddess of Victory. Heh. Where's your Atalanta? (Is there one?) Because you do a lot of running. Not that I'm any better, honestly. He called me yesterday. I've no idea why. He knows I'm ill. We spoke last Saturday. It was only Monday. He left no voicemail, either. I swear, some days, I want to respond to those by saying, 'why do you still call me?' It's not like we won't find something to talk about (we'd regularly talk 3.5 hours on average, often daily, 'til our phone batteries would die; but that was February 2012). But ... why? And won't he just stop if I answer? If one's connecting, then the other's running ....
LOL ATALANTE is on 6 Leo, same degreee as HYPNOS, making a Yod with Venus on 6 Cap and Pholus on 6 Pisces. 6 Leo The Constellations Of Stars Shine Brilliantly In The Night Sky
6 Cap A Veiled Prophet Speaks, Seized By The Power Of A God 6 pisces Illumined By A Shaft Of Light, A Large Cross Lies On Rocks Surrounded By Sea His Atalante is on 23 Virgo,c onjunct his DESC on 25 (and Yeshuar) and Saturn on 26 Virgo. opposite his Pholus on 23 Pisces, trine his Venus on 25 Cap. Interesting. We both have a Venus-Pholus sextile his Sabians 23 Virgo Mary And Her Little Lamb Venus A Nature Sprit Dancing In The Iridescent Mist Of A Waterfall Pholus On A Small Island Surrounded By The Vast Expanse Of The Sea, People Are Seen Living In Close Interaction ------------------- my Draco ATALANTA and HYPNOS on 26 Scorpio exact conjunct my tropical Valentine on 27 Scorpio Draco Chiron widely (3 degrees) conj tropical Atalanta ------------------------------------------- his Draco ATALANTA on 21 Aries opposite his tropical Pluto (and sitting right on my tropical Chiron, my Drco Stellium including Knight, Stonehenge, Vesta, and Eva on that exact degree 21 Aries The Gate To The Garden Of All Fulfilled Desires And actually opposing my helio Jessie/Mary-conjunction on 19 and 21 Libra, surrounding my tropical DNA on 20 Libra. ---------------------------------
my helio ATALANTA on 18 Cancer opopsite helio Venus on 19.59 Cap conjunct tropical Saturn, Eros and VX trien tropical Juno trine tropical Lancelot, Moira etc. 18 Cancer A Priest Performing A Marriage Ceremony 19 Cap A Hidden Choir Is Singing During A Religious Service his helio Atalanta 1 Virgo
Holy Moly EXACT on this tropical NN on 1 Virgo helio Jupiter on 00 Virgo (and I have helio Echnaton/Akhenaten conj. there exact) 1 Virgo
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 07:56 AM
Whatever Atalante/ Atalanta means, it seems worth investigating in this particular synastry. IP: Logged |
micole maree Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Bay Area, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 08:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I see the trine as more of an opportunity to heal, yes it will probably awaken a place that has been abused and in need of healing... But the hurt will be one that allows growth not more abuse! The square is much harder!Nessus needs to be tight, 3 degrees at max even in your natal chart! My Nessus touches my mars by 3.5 degrees...I'm not a violent or mean person! So please check that to see how close it aspects!
Thanks, Gabby, those words help a lot. His Nessus is 4 degrees away. I think. Shoot, I'll check again. What is it with the squares anyway? Does anybody else here have a chart with their TF that is loaded with squares? Our synastry and composite are both rife with red... IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1660 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 08:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by micole maree: quote:Originally posted by tgem: Michelle, I can't believe how similar your experience has been to mine (and I haven't even heard the end yet!). I'll list the similarities when you post the rest of your story. I'm feeling for you ...every word you write...resognates completely with me...💙💙"I'll admit that, Michelle. I KNEW it was you, but I kept thinking of tgem, too. It seemed so similar." tgem and Indigo - I read nearly the whole of this thread up until roughly page 37, I think?, in one day. I remembered reading a story that seemed pretty close to my own but I couldn't put the correct name to it. So many words, so many stories, too close together - I couldn't remember who said what, when. Or WHERE! (We're at *49* pages now! Wow.) But as soon as I can, I'm going to seek out your story again, tgem. (Do you remember roughly the page number area where you posted it?) Sheesh. Procrastinating again...
My story starts back on page 13, posted February 2nd.
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tgem Knowflake Posts: 1660 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 08:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Wow! This story is so moving and I want to know how it continues.
Michelle -this is CRAZY!!!! I haven't even mentioned the part in my story about the "letter" I wrote to CUSP!!! This is weird....really weird. Ok, can't wait to hear how this turns out!!! IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 3640 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 26, 2014 08:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by micole maree: Thanks, Gabby, those words help a lot. His Nessus is 4 degrees away. I think. Shoot, I'll check again.What is it with the squares anyway? Does anybody else here have a chart with their TF that is loaded with squares? Our synastry and composite are both rife with red...
Mine has Nessus exact square my Dejanira just like my ex husband....but the aspects to this place are very different and the asteroids that sit on his Nessus are healing and my ex husbands sun sits on his Nessus, he had other asteroids touching this that were not good, lie and apophis....his ego was based on abusing, Liebig and destroying others! *Sparky* didn't have anything in his natal chart that touched his Nessus, and the asteroids touching his Nessus, one was compassion...I can't remember the other....but he didn't want to hurt anyone! He did hurt me, Nessus is painful but he immediately stepped back, saw what he did and fell apart! He on his own stopped hurting me...he was hurt also! That's the difference aspects and asteroids around something like Nessus can make....what happened woke up some deep fears in me that I didn't realize where there and I started dealing with them! I can't find the beginning of your story...how did you offend Jace?
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micole maree Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Bay Area, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 08:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: My story starts back on page 13, posted February 2nd.
Thanks, tgem, I'll go refresh my memory! IP: Logged |
micole maree Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Bay Area, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 08:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: Michelle -this is CRAZY!!!! I haven't even mentioned the part in my story about the "letter" I wrote to CUSP!!! This is weird....really weird. Ok, can't wait to hear how this turns out!!!
tgem, don't get your hopes up too high! I haven't had nearly the personal interactions you've had, if I'm remembering which story IS yours! Just a whole lot of "stuff". Connected stuff.
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micole maree Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Bay Area, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 08:37 AM
"I can't find the beginning of your story...how did you offend Jace?"Gabby, it's on page 44, just over halfway down. There was an out-of-sequence reference to astral sex earlier, somewhere in the 30's. I'll have to reinsert that into the story in it's proper place later! IP: Logged |
micole maree Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Bay Area, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 08:44 AM
I ended my story a page ago without realizing you'd think I ran into Jace in Tahoe. I didn't mean to imply that but see now that I did.Here was my goof: My husband then said to me, "Jace is going to be up there this weekend as well." (To be continued.) I'd say "evil grin" but I'm actually just plain tired and not intending a cliffhanger here. More later, friends. ***Edited to note this: I really didn't mean to lead you on. No, I didn't run into him while we were in Tahoe." Sheesh. I really was tired, I guess. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 09:03 AM
"Atalanta was the swiftest runner of her time, surpassing the most fleet-footed men in racing. A woman way ahead of her time, she could defeat men in wrestling, went along on the voyage with Jason and the Argonauts in their Quest for the Golden Fleece, and played an active part in killing the feared Calydonian Boar.Atalanta was also a stunningly beautiful woman and many princely suitors from all over Greece came to ask for her hand in marriage. No way. Atalanta had vowed to remain husbandless until she died, and would challenge any potential suitor to a foot race - If she lost she would become his wife...if the man was defeated in the race he would lose his life! Needless to say, many suitors were killed by her, until Aphrodite, the goddess of Love, got involved... The identity of Atalanta's parents is in dispute, but whoever they were, the king and queen of Arcadia passionately desired a son above all else. They were terribly disappointed when Atalanta was born, and made no secret of it. Distraught because she was a girl, the clueless king ordered one of his servants to kill and dispose of the unwanted baby. Reluctantly, the servant obeyed his king, but he didn't have the heart to slay the helpless child. Instead he chose to abandon her in the forest, exposing her to the elements to die somewhere in Arcadia. But she survived, for a she-bear appeared and kept her warm and suckled her until some hunters found the baby girl and brought her to their village to raise as their own. The hunters named her Atalanta, recognizing how special she was - after all, a giant bear had suckled and cared for her, when by all logic she should have perished in the wild. When she grew older, the hunters made her a bow and arrows, and taught her how to shoot with great expertise. They gave her a light spear, and showed her how to properly yield it and how to hurl it at the game or at an enemy. Then they took her with them on their hunting expeditions, and before long Atalanta knew that this was the life for her. There was nothing in the world that pleased her so much as roaming through the woods and running after the deer and other wild animals. Atalanta grew to become a most beautiful woman, very tall and graceful and was known throughout her homeland of Arcadia as a fleet-footed huntress. She vowed to never take a husband, choosing to remain a virgin. She was very swift and used to surpass all the men in racing. Her arms grew strong and her aim became unerring - she never missed her mark with neither her spear nor her arrow. Once she even won a wrestling match against Peleus - who later became the great warrior Achilles' father - during the games that were held in honour of King Pelias. Thus living and hunting in the wilderness she remained always armed to the teeth, ready to defend herself at all times. On one occasion the foolish Centaurs Rhoecus and Hylaeus tried to rape her in a drunken frenzy, and the brave beauty shot them down and killed them. Another time, the goddess Artemis grew angry at King Oeneus of Calydon and sent a boar of enormous size and strength, which prevented the land from being sown, destroying and terrorizing both cattle and people. In order to get rid of this ravaging beast, King Oeneus assembled the noblest men of Greece, who became known as the Calydonian Hunters, and promised to give the boar's skin as a prize to the warrior who should kill it. Among these noble men came also Atalanta who shortly before had travelled with the Argonauts in their successful voyage to bring back to Greece the Golden Fleece. However the Arcadians' King Cepheus of Tegea and Ancaeus, were chauvinistic and disdained going hunting with a woman. Oeneus's son Meleager, being in love with Atalanta though he himself was already married, made the unwilling men permit Atalanta to take part in the hunt. Needless to say, Atalanta was the first hunter to wound the boar with an arrow and then the hunter Amphiaraus shot it in the eye and finally Meleager dispatched it with a mighty stab with his sword. Meleager gave the Calydonian Boar's skin to Atalanta, since she had struck the first blow. This gallant gesture totally ticked off the chauvinists, who thought that a woman had no business hunting with them, let alone showing them up with her skills! When the sons of Thestius insisted that the Boar's skin belonged to them, things got real ugly - A ferocious and violent battle ensued, with the final result being that Meleager slew both of them. Eventually this led to Meleager's own death, but we're here to study Atalanta. Word of her beauty and bravery spread and many princely suitors sought her in marriage. Not only had she participated courageously in the Calydonian Boar Hunt, but also she had taken part in the legendary voyage with Jason and the Argonauts on their Quest for the Golden Fleece. What a superwoman! Not to mention the fact that she was drop-dead gorgeous! Atalanta had other ideas. She informed her father that she had chosen to remain a virgin and unsullied, and insisted that her father set up a contest with the following rules: Each of Atalanta's suitors would race unarmed and she would pursue them with a weapon. She would give them a generous head start, a full one hundred paces, just to be fair. That's how confident she was in her capabilities. Were she to be defeated, she would marry the suitor. However, If Atalanta overtook him within the limits of the race, she then would kill him and affix his head up in the stadium. This would serve notice to other potential suitors to think twice before challenging fleet Atalanta to a foot race! A whole lot of cowardly suitors abruptly changed their amorous minds upon hearing these conditions, but there was a constant stream of dreamers who did not believe that a mere woman - and a doll at that! - could outrace them. Poor fools! Many perished in this cruel contest, until a man called Melanion, or as others say Hippomenes, appealed to the goddess of Love, Aphrodite, to help him land Atalanta as wife. Aphrodite was irked that Atalanta was not moved by any feelings of love, and was justified in feeling that she had failed in her job. That wouldn't do now, would it? So the goddess of Love decided to help Melanion/Hippomenes win the hand of Atalanta in marriage. She gave him three magical golden apples with instructions to scatter them on the ground when Atalanta gained on him. As Melanion was being pursued he threw down one at a time the golden apples that he had received from Aphrodite, and Atalanta, slowing down to pick up the irresistible dropped fruit, was beaten in the race. Melanion took home his new wife but in his excitement he forgot the role that Aphrodite played and did not pay her proper thanks. Bad move. The peeved goddess of Love decided to punish the ungrateful man, so while he was sacrificing on Mount Parnassus to Zeus to celebrate his victory, Aphrodite inflamed him with desire and he lay with Atalanta in the temple while the sacred images turned away their eyes. Some mythographers claim that Atalanta and her lover lay at the temple of Cybelle. In any case, Zeus or Cybelle saw this profane act in the hallowed temple and, filled with fury, instantly turned them into lion and lioness. Mortified to be transformed into wild beasts , the new couple fled into the woods. Some say that they were eventually slain by the same hunters who once roamed the familiar hunting grounds with them. Parentage: There are three version of her parents: 1) Schoeneus & unknown 2) Iasus & Clymene 3) Maenalus & unknown With either Melanion, Meleager, Ares or Hippomenes she had a son named Parthenopaeus, who was one of the famous warriors known as the Seven Against Thebes. Her name derives from the Greek Αταλαντη (Atalante) meaning "equal in weight", which is derived from αταλαντος (atalantos), a word related to ταλαντον (talanton), meaning "a scale or balance". In mythology, Atalanta no doubt was a parallel (and not-quite-as-important) form of Artemis, the renowned Olympian goddess of the hunt." http://mythmaniacs.com/atalanta.html There is an asteroid Atalante,
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IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2450 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 09:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: My story starts back on page 13, posted February 2nd.
Thank you! That helps my addled brain. IP: Logged |
micole maree Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Bay Area, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 09:20 AM
quote: What are the chances that I meet and Fall in love with a DJ who lives 5 houses down from me, out in the middle of nowhere, 3 states away from where I was born and raised. And the only reason I ended up there in the first place was because I was following my husband's career. I do still love and care for my husband very much and I know eventually we will have a strong/ co-parenting friendly relationship...I can feel it. Our relationship was always very brother/sisterly like and even though I have verified that he is a soulmate as well, I have started to speculate that he may just be a twin soul having led me to my TF...sort of like the Relationship Edgar Caycee had with his wife and his secretary. This is only just speculation of course. I still have a lot more to learn. Thanks so much for reading my PAINFULLY long story ....but you asked LOL 😊[/B]
GOOD LORD, tgem! I moved to this small town where I live in 1986 after being hired at a company here. One month later, in a move clearly orchestrated by Spirit, it was so incredibly "coincidental", I met my husband. And it was my husband that led me to my twinflame because of his job. (Interesting that the very first experience I had connected to TF, the deja vu, happened AFTER I met my husband. Hmm...) Yeah, I'd say that's significant. You also mentioned somewhere in there that spring of 2012? was when the running happened. February 19, 2012, a year to the day after Jace met his current wife which was also the same day I had one of the weirdest synchronicities I'd had with him, he got engaged to her. I spent the next month petitioning Spirit to release me from my telepathic link to him, while looking at their blissful faces in photos on Facebook and praying for him to be happy while I sobbed. And sobbed. And sobbed. You're blessed that you still love and care for your ex. Truly blessed. I on the other hand have been through hell with the abuse which continued in the form of bullying after I left him. I wanted peace and respect. It isn't what I got. And I finally realized a full two and a half years AFTER leaving him that I had been married to a very cunning narcissist and I'm starting to think, a sociopath, as well. I think it took that long to see the truth clearly because the damage was so deep. Your words about a "soulmate" leading you to your TF just RING true. (Yes, despite his "evil" persona this time around, I do believe that my ex is a soulmate. I contracted on the Other Side to learn specific lessons with him and that commitment was made then with unconditional love and acceptance.) Oh, Lord, I'm tired. I'm babbling. I hope this makes sense. I'm going to read your story again, tgem. I'm feeling as though I missed something. ***Edited. I noted this while reading but forgot about it here. Both of us went through a dark night of the soul following the realization that this dearly beloved TF is not awakened or available, "advanced" (for want of a better word) spiritually, with intuition increasing rapidly. Both of us started looking for answers to life's puzzles through astrology. Both of us are pressing on, alone, finding a way to cope with what is, while hoping that someday, someway, these men wake up and grab the gold ring given to them way back when we were stardust. Wouldn't we have a whole lot to talk about over a cup of coffee though? Until later. Michelle Dang. I'm too tired to edit this completely. Let me note that if any anger comes through occasionally, I am still pretty raw from my divorce. It is not officially final although papers were signed over six months ago. The divorce itself was HELL because the ex gained an intelligent and manipulative girlfriend that wants me creamed. I need some sleep. When I can actually think, later, this all might get edited again. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 09:27 AM
in my chart:Atalante is trine ASC exact. Melanie conjuncts VAlentine (and Dr Atalante. lol) helio Melanie (13 Sco) squeezed in between helio Amor (11 Sco) and helio Valentine (18 SCo) helio Atlanta trine helio Valentine precisely his his chart: Atalante is conjunct DESC helio Melanie sextile helio Valentine exact just an overview about the synastry:
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his Atlante sextile my Melanie (1°59) his Melanie quinkunx my Atalante (1°49) tropical composite:
ATALANTE on 29.55 Leo DESTINN on 29.42 Leo in 7th house and MELANIE on 14.59 Sag in 1th house (along with Mercury on 15 Sag and Neptune-Sappho on 17 Sag). helio composite
ATALANTA on 10.14 Leo trine MELANION on 11.03 Sag Shockingly this becomes part of our major geometry in helio composite, also including the Pluto-Persephone-Ceres-story!
Venus 13.2 Aquarius
Jupiter 11.1 Gemini Pluto 13.2 LIbra (Union 15.2 LIbra) Ceres 12.2 ARies Atalanta 10.1 Leo Persephone 11.1 Leo Destinn 13.2 Leo Melanion 11.1 Sag Neptune 14. 5 Sag
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 3640 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 26, 2014 09:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: I find his VERY interesting!! I have a 12h house moon as well...except mine is in Gemini. Also it is almost completely unaspected short of a very wide square to Saturn. I am extremely sensitive to other's energy. Anyone else here have a 12th house moon? Or moon in Pisces?Also my SM/TF has an unaspected moon as well..but in Sag. I guess after 48 pages on this thread, I should probably give him a name huh? Ok let's call him "Cusp" (his Cap birthday falls on the cusp of Aquarius.)
Pisces moon... To me almost harder than 12th house moon!! But im not sure because I don't have one! Lol
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 09:36 AM
No, i have an Aquarius Moon, but unaspected, except for the exact quinkunx to Saturn and minor aspects and parallels (in fact Moon is involved in a mutliple parallel/ contraparallel with Uranus, Juno and Pluto. lol)Mr Sag has a Sag-Moon and Pisces ASC though (with my Moon in his 12th) IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 10:40 AM
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Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 10:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Wow, a lot of virgo moons discussing or being discussed around here! His moon is right on mine virgo@18.35...well, if you ever have any questions.....Lol!! Ugh! Do you know the house his moon is in?
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Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 10:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite:
Lavender, I found Pocahontas asteroid to denote patching cultural differences in marriage. Maybe you want to take a look at that.
Oh good one! my Pocahontas is exactly conjunct his Ceres, and solstice–conjunct his Jupiter 0° his Pocahontas is conjunct my Pluto 2°
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Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 10:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: I find his VERY interesting!! I have a 12h house moon as well...except mine is in Gemini. Also it is almost completely unaspected short of a very wide square to Saturn. I am extremely sensitive to other's energy. Anyone else here have a 12th house moon? Or moon in Pisces?Also my SM/TF has an unaspected moon as well..but in Sag. I guess after 48 pages on this thread, I should probably give him a name huh? Ok let's call him "Cusp" (his Cap birthday falls on the cusp of Aquarius.)
I'm also a 12th house Moon. Well, I guess it depends on which house system I use too. Placidus gives me Moon on the cusp of 11th & 12th Whole signs gives me Moon in the 12th, which I identify the most with.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 11:05 AM
In Placidus the placement exactly on a cusp (one degree orb) makes something VERY prominent actually. I have Uranus on the last minutes of 10th house but the precise conjuntion to 11th house cusp definitely plays out mostly.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 3640 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 26, 2014 11:12 AM
So how do you know if your supposed to be "with" your twin flame or not? Is it Juno? Is it Eros? There has to be something that says, he's not just your twin flame he's your husband also?? Right??It seems like I had an unusual experience being in such a close relationship with him, immediately.....is it that my Eros is on our Valentine/Valentine conjunction? I guess that would show the relationship was meant to be sexual? But his Eros is exact square my Venus also, his Psyche opposes my Venus makes a t-square.... My Juno is on his SN.... His Juno is exact trine my Aura and my name and my asteroid Devine? I would like to know how come others don't seem to have immediately went into a relationship of some sort?? How do we tell if it will manifest into that or stay as a friendship/platonic relationship? What aspects do other ppl have that show it will eventually become more and potentially physical? I can look up more that we have to see if others share them... By the way... He wasn't single when I met him! He lied about it though and we had a year long intense relationship(long distance due to his work) all the while he had a live in girlfriend! He was never at the place they lived and their relationship was non existent but still....he hadn't moved his stuff out yet! Her dad had invested in his production company so owned half his company, which was why they were still together! Even though he was in a relationship he saw me at my work and tried to talk to me a year before we actually met(that I remember) he said i was busy and blew him off! Actually I was dating someone at the time so I wasn't open at all...and didn't feel who he was! He said I never came back over after he asked me if I would! Evidently he didn't give up, after he left the area he still had his friends stop by my work n look for me to get my name for him, but by then I had switched to a different location for training! The next year when he came back I was back at my regular location where he met me... He said he tried talking to me again but again I ignored him(I was freshly out of that relationship and hated all men)....a few months later he saw me again, and that's why his first words to me where, "do you just hate me or something?" That's when I nearly fell over and felt like is been hit by lightening! BUT....he was in a relationship! I asked him why would you look for me like that if you were in a relationship... He said I didn't expect to feel what I felt, before I met you all I knew is I had to meet you and know your name. Then when I finally met you...it's like I went into a dream and real life just vanished! He said, I literally forgot when I was with you and then id leave you and wonder what am I doing?? But I couldn't stop! I hoped somehow it would all just work out! Ok so he lied for the 1st year, completely!! His friend, the one who was sexually harassing me is the one who told me and then tried to get with me...the "friend" wanted me to hate my TF and "take him down" with him! When I refused, the friend began sexually harassing me! So my TF broke everything off with the GF, lost half his business and had to start completely over....like I said earlier he lost his show in the Discovery channel because him and the "friend" could no longer be in the same room, esp after he threatened to kill the "friend" for what he was doing to me! Basically I walked into his life and it was destroyed in a year! I know, not really my fault...but I have to wonder considering that our Eros/Valentine/Valentine conjunction is exactly square my Pluto? Oops?? Did I do that? Lol The point of my story....Don't F with Pluto!! Lol ESP when it sits on a girls AC AND squared his AC!! My Eros cap@9.00 My Valentine cap@9.59 His Valentine cap@9.29 His AC cap@13.35 My Pluto cap@11.05 My AC libra@9 IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 11:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: "Atalanta was the swiftest runner of her time, surpassing the most fleet-footed men in racing. A woman way ahead of her time, she could defeat men in wrestling, went along on the voyage with Jason and the Argonauts in their Quest for the Golden Fleece, and played an active part in killing the feared Calydonian Boar.Atalanta was also a stunningly beautiful woman and many princely suitors from all over Greece came to ask for her hand in marriage. No way. Atalanta had vowed to remain husbandless until she died, and would challenge any potential suitor to a foot race - If she lost she would become his wife...if the man was defeated in the race he would lose his life! Needless to say, many suitors were killed by her, until Aphrodite, the goddess of Love, got involved... The identity of Atalanta's parents is in dispute, but whoever they were, the king and queen of Arcadia passionately desired a son above all else. They were terribly disappointed when Atalanta was born, and made no secret of it. Distraught because she was a girl, the clueless king ordered one of his servants to kill and dispose of the unwanted baby. Reluctantly, the servant obeyed his king, but he didn't have the heart to slay the helpless child. Instead he chose to abandon her in the forest, exposing her to the elements to die somewhere in Arcadia. But she survived, for a she-bear appeared and kept her warm and suckled her until some hunters found the baby girl and brought her to their village to raise as their own. The hunters named her Atalanta, recognizing how special she was - after all, a giant bear had suckled and cared for her, when by all logic she should have perished in the wild. When she grew older, the hunters made her a bow and arrows, and taught her how to shoot with great expertise. They gave her a light spear, and showed her how to properly yield it and how to hurl it at the game or at an enemy. Then they took her with them on their hunting expeditions, and before long Atalanta knew that this was the life for her. There was nothing in the world that pleased her so much as roaming through the woods and running after the deer and other wild animals. Atalanta grew to become a most beautiful woman, very tall and graceful and was known throughout her homeland of Arcadia as a fleet-footed huntress. She vowed to never take a husband, choosing to remain a virgin. She was very swift and used to surpass all the men in racing. Her arms grew strong and her aim became unerring - she never missed her mark with neither her spear nor her arrow. Once she even won a wrestling match against Peleus - who later became the great warrior Achilles' father - during the games that were held in honour of King Pelias. Thus living and hunting in the wilderness she remained always armed to the teeth, ready to defend herself at all times. On one occasion the foolish Centaurs Rhoecus and Hylaeus tried to rape her in a drunken frenzy, and the brave beauty shot them down and killed them. Another time, the goddess Artemis grew angry at King Oeneus of Calydon and sent a boar of enormous size and strength, which prevented the land from being sown, destroying and terrorizing both cattle and people. In order to get rid of this ravaging beast, King Oeneus assembled the noblest men of Greece, who became known as the Calydonian Hunters, and promised to give the boar's skin as a prize to the warrior who should kill it. Among these noble men came also Atalanta who shortly before had travelled with the Argonauts in their successful voyage to bring back to Greece the Golden Fleece. However the Arcadians' King Cepheus of Tegea and Ancaeus, were chauvinistic and disdained going hunting with a woman. Oeneus's son Meleager, being in love with Atalanta though he himself was already married, made the unwilling men permit Atalanta to take part in the hunt. Needless to say, Atalanta was the first hunter to wound the boar with an arrow and then the hunter Amphiaraus shot it in the eye and finally Meleager dispatched it with a mighty stab with his sword. Meleager gave the Calydonian Boar's skin to Atalanta, since she had struck the first blow. This gallant gesture totally ticked off the chauvinists, who thought that a woman had no business hunting with them, let alone showing them up with her skills! When the sons of Thestius insisted that the Boar's skin belonged to them, things got real ugly - A ferocious and violent battle ensued, with the final result being that Meleager slew both of them. Eventually this led to Meleager's own death, but we're here to study Atalanta. Word of her beauty and bravery spread and many princely suitors sought her in marriage. Not only had she participated courageously in the Calydonian Boar Hunt, but also she had taken part in the legendary voyage with Jason and the Argonauts on their Quest for the Golden Fleece. What a superwoman! Not to mention the fact that she was drop-dead gorgeous! Atalanta had other ideas. She informed her father that she had chosen to remain a virgin and unsullied, and insisted that her father set up a contest with the following rules: Each of Atalanta's suitors would race unarmed and she would pursue them with a weapon. She would give them a generous head start, a full one hundred paces, just to be fair. That's how confident she was in her capabilities. Were she to be defeated, she would marry the suitor. However, If Atalanta overtook him within the limits of the race, she then would kill him and affix his head up in the stadium. This would serve notice to other potential suitors to think twice before challenging fleet Atalanta to a foot race! A whole lot of cowardly suitors abruptly changed their amorous minds upon hearing these conditions, but there was a constant stream of dreamers who did not believe that a mere woman - and a doll at that! - could outrace them. Poor fools! Many perished in this cruel contest, until a man called Melanion, or as others say Hippomenes, appealed to the goddess of Love, Aphrodite, to help him land Atalanta as wife. Aphrodite was irked that Atalanta was not moved by any feelings of love, and was justified in feeling that she had failed in her job. That wouldn't do now, would it? So the goddess of Love decided to help Melanion/Hippomenes win the hand of Atalanta in marriage. She gave him three magical golden apples with instructions to scatter them on the ground when Atalanta gained on him. As Melanion was being pursued he threw down one at a time the golden apples that he had received from Aphrodite, and Atalanta, slowing down to pick up the irresistible dropped fruit, was beaten in the race. Melanion took home his new wife but in his excitement he forgot the role that Aphrodite played and did not pay her proper thanks. Bad move. The peeved goddess of Love decided to punish the ungrateful man, so while he was sacrificing on Mount Parnassus to Zeus to celebrate his victory, Aphrodite inflamed him with desire and he lay with Atalanta in the temple while the sacred images turned away their eyes. Some mythographers claim that Atalanta and her lover lay at the temple of Cybelle. In any case, Zeus or Cybelle saw this profane act in the hallowed temple and, filled with fury, instantly turned them into lion and lioness. Mortified to be transformed into wild beasts , the new couple fled into the woods. Some say that they were eventually slain by the same hunters who once roamed the familiar hunting grounds with them. Parentage: There are three version of her parents: 1) Schoeneus & unknown 2) Iasus & Clymene 3) Maenalus & unknown With either Melanion, Meleager, Ares or Hippomenes she had a son named Parthenopaeus, who was one of the famous warriors known as the Seven Against Thebes. Her name derives from the Greek Αταλαντη (Atalante) meaning "equal in weight", which is derived from αταλαντος (atalantos), a word related to ταλαντον (talanton), meaning "a scale or balance". In mythology, Atalanta no doubt was a parallel (and not-quite-as-important) form of Artemis, the renowned Olympian goddess of the hunt." http://mythmaniacs.com/atalanta.html There is an asteroid Atalante,
and there is also the asteorid Melanie (same meaning as Melanion)
Wow, very interestng story! my Atalante conjuncts his Venus 1° my Melanie trines his Venus 0° my Melanie squares his Moon/Mars 1° my Melanir solstice–conjunct his Chiron 0° his Melanie opposes my Venus 0° his Melanie squares my Uranus 0° his Melanie squares my Neptune 2° his Melanie solstice–conjunct my Sun 1° his Melanie solstice–opposite my Saturn 2° There is a wide opposition between my Atalante and his Melanie of 4°
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Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1161 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 26, 2014 11:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: In Placidus the placement exactly on a cusp (one degree orb) makes something VERY prominent actually. I have Uranus on the last minutes of 10th house but the precise conjuntion to 11th house cusp definitely plays out mostly.
Ah, my Moon is 6° away from the 12th house cusp in Placidus. Mars is 4° away. Yet I don't fit the the 11th house description.. Maybe its because of my water prominence that I don't notice the effects of the 11th much. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12705 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 11:29 AM
It`s always a mix of different things. esides almost no astrologer understands the 11th house anyway. IP: Logged | |