posted March 01, 2014 01:11 AM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Nope, sorry for the confusion, in our tropical composite we have Priapus opposite BML by 1 degree on the Sag/gem axis.

In tropical synastry my BML is quincux his Priapus wide (1.5)

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posted March 01, 2014 01:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I'm so sorry to ask this....but....how hard would it be everyone to copy their story into one area?? I'm trying to read everyone's stories and I can only find bits and pieces!!??
ESP those who have been on this thread from the beginning!!
I'd really really really appreciate it?? Thank you!?

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Gabby, I'm actually thinking of offering anyone who'd like to also convene on my private forum to do so. It might keep things more organised in the long run.

I figured we'd post our histories specifically on a sub-forum.

posted March 01, 2014 01:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
True true lol

However, taking its Uranian symbolism into account, it does make a LOT of sense.

I can be very eccentric, unconventional, idealistic, individualistic and independent ... I don't care much for mainstream stuff. Most people have even described me as bohemian and I will say they are totally right

Actually, I just read the description for Aqua Moon and I'm amazed at how much of it actually fits!

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posted March 01, 2014 01:43 AM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
"So how do you know if your supposed to be "with" your twin flame or not? Is it Juno? Is it Eros? There has to be something that says, he's not just your twin flame he's your husband also?? Right??"

To me I would think Juno would have to be significant (it's the marriage asteroid right?). Same with Boda, briede and groom. These seem like love/marriage asteroids, not JUST love asteroids. That's just my theory though.

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Maybe.

I just noticed today:

• His BREIDE-ASC is exactly conjunct my VX, parallel his SUN (7R) and MOON, and URANUS (chartruler).

• His GROOM is on my VENUS-ASC (1°), and parallel my SATURN (5R).

Strangely:

• His BREIDE is parallel his ATLANTIS.
• His GROOM is contraparallel my ATLANTIS.

Huh. Anyway.

• My BREIDE is on his SUN/MOON MP (exactly) and his Part of Destiny, quirkily enough. It's also on his MERC (5R, 8R) (exact) and my VALENTINE (1°).

• My GROOM is parallel his VX, trine his VALENTINE, trine my EROS.

Anyhow, I thought the VX and DSC connexions with BREIDE and GROOM were rather cool there.

posted March 01, 2014 01:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
No its good that you shared.
It helps me out a lot.

I just feel that Orion amd Sirius could be one of the clues to determining TFs, as the ancient Egyptians believed that Osiris was descended from Orion, and Sirius was the cosmic manifestion of Isis's soul.

Both stars were very significant to many ancient civilizations.

The air shafts of the 3 pyramids in Giza, Egypt line up precisely with the 3 of the brightest stars of Orion.

There have also been pyramids and monuments found in Mexico and Arizona that are structured in a way that they are in perfect alignment with the stars of Orion.

Sirius was known to trigger the annual Nile River floods which brough back life and fertility to Egypt.
It appeared in the sky for the first time after 70 days, on the day of the summer–solstice.
Sirius was then first star in the Egyptian calendar to signifiy the beginning of the Egyptian new year.

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posted March 01, 2014 02:08 AM            

Are we using Draconic from the first drop-down chart or the second?

Are we tracking aspects between chart types?

Tropical: synastry, mid-point composite, Davison composite, uncorrected

with

Helio (which one?): synastry, mid-point composite, Davison composite, uncorrected

and/or

Draconic: synastry, mid-point composite, Davison composite, uncorrected

OR, are we staying with aspects within one chart?

Sorry, friends, I'm trying. I'm getting confused and want to make sure I understand what we're doing.

posted March 01, 2014 02:35 AM            

Summerlite, my Kaali at 29.59 Taurus is conjunct Pleiades. (It also happens to be opp my Jupiter at 29.15.)

His Kaali 3.46 Leo conj my Michelle 2.44 Leo.

Tropical synastry:

My natural LILITH 8.41 Gemini conj his Priapus 10.51 Gemini (yeah, ten minutes over)

His UNION 0.06 Virgo conj my VENUS 1.17 Virgo
His SPIRIT 7.56 Libra conj my UNION 8.19 Libra
His KARMA 13.53 Scorpio conj my Priapus 12.12 Scorpio (conj my PALLAS 12.39 Scorpio)

Possible DW, one wide orb:
My SATURN 1.01 Cap conj his AMOR 29.06 Sag
His SATURN 4.45 Pisces conj my AMOR 1.07 Pisces (3.38 orb)

His SATURN 4.45 Pisces opp my VENUS 1.17 Virgo
My SATURN 1.01 Cap opp his VENUS 6.48 Cancer

We might have a MOON-MARS DW but I don't know for sure without a MOON degree for him.

My books say 8.0 on planet conjs/opps; 10 if SUN/ Moon involved. You all seem to be using tighter orbs on planets?

That's it until I do some cross-chart checks.

*****

For what it's worth, I spent YEARS, off and on, on charting between Jace and I. When I "let go" of him, when I asked for this heart link to be closed, I burned EVERYTHING. The charts, most of the journaling, my photos off the net. So I'm starting all over now.

posted March 01, 2014 02:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Within 0°

Osiris is at 28°54 N
Isis is at 29°05 N

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I especially like that they're OOB and N (expression is external).

posted March 01, 2014 03:01 AM            

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Originally posted by micole maree:
Yeah, I've heard that. And that there is a lot of on/off, blowing hot and then cold. That fits with the moodiness that has been reported to me. Oh well. I guess we all get stuck with *something*. (I've got Saturn conjunct Vertex in the FIFTH! AND in Capricorn! The worst placement for Saturn. And then Saturn squares my Sun.)

Yes, Indigo, that was me on YouTube. (You have a gorgeous voice. ) I'll probably remove that comment soon, though, if I can. I need to protect some privacy, with all of these details I'm revealing here.

Your Guardian Soul theory is resonating here. Somewhat. I find it hard to believe that I'd have ALL of this with Jace and that he isn't a Twin Flame. But I'm wide open to exploring this and revealing whatever it takes to add to the discussion.

Feel better, Indigo. Your absence was noted.

Michelle

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I'm slowly coming 'round. Catching up.

posted March 01, 2014 03:53 AM            

About half an hour ago, I started losing it. Just ... losing it. Can't articulate it. Can't make sense of it, either.

All I could see were the words he used to destroy me more deeply than anyone ever had before. Even though I've healed. Even though I'm stronger. Even though it's been over a year.

All I could think was how he'd said that he was sold the true love idea just like the rest of society, and that he was sure that when he found her, he'd know, and that it would be easy to be romantic and passionate and do all the things one's supposed to do.

All I'm thinking now is how, then, it was clear it wasn't me. That it's never been me. He's never fallen in love with me. Maybe he once loved me, or thought he had, or was stoned and mourning his father's death. Maybe that's why he said what he doesn't remember now, but takes my word he'd said it. (In 2009.)

But I was perfect. I was his ideal. He said I was his soulmate. Twice! Using the definition in common parlance. The One. The one you look for. The one of which there's only one. His soulmate. Me. He told me that.

But, for whatever reason, I'm not. I 'did something' or 'said something' that made him no longer desire me in any capacity I do him, or he once had me.

Or maybe then he admitted it's because we're too close and he can't breathe or deal or, he feels like he's married to me, and he can't deal with that, either.

And then I hear him in my head singing that damned song ...

I have to let you go .... I've got a disease. I can't live without you, tell me, what'm I s'posed to do about it? Keep your distance from me. Pay no attention to me ... I've got a disease ....

Things weren't great with my husband after two years. At their (then) worst when we married. But I hadn't suddenly switched gears until I saw him, for the first time in person. And then, God, again, after he'd told me the truth and confessed everything, that January 2012.

I was just lost in longing. I'd stare into space. I felt unhinged.

When we started talking on the phone, later that week, maybe a few days after, (he called because 'I dared him', hah! Right) it all fell into place. I was SO deliriously happy. And my husband was so angry it made me SO happy.

Really? To spend hours plotting and brainstorming? I'm a creative!

I even tried to include him. I did! He said, 'why are you telling me this? I'm not Fate.'

I just left the room and cried.

No. No, you're not, is all I could think. But it was a dangerous thought.

And that's in the past now. All of it. Is it great now? No. But it's so much better.

I should be SO happy.

I wish I could erase these memories.

I tried that, actually. I did. January 2013. A good friend of mine is a hypnotherapist whose specialty is NLP. The one hiccough was that if he called I wouldn't know who he was, and it'd arouse suspicion. Seeing as how I didn't want to have to start living in Memento-mode in order to avoid this horrible pain, I reasoned it wasn't the most bang-up plan I've ever had.

But I REALLY wanted to forget he existed. Then just that anything had ever transpired beyond seeing him the prior January. You know - just get rid of all of 2012.

I thought I could be so blissfully happy in my ignorance. I'd be satisfied with the mundane. I wouldn't have this damnable yearning for SOMETHING.

Because all Fate's ever been is an amplifier on my soul. More joy. More enthusiasm. More passion. More intensity. More inexplicability. More mystery. More contradiction. More pain. More confusion. More misery. More chaos. More beauty. More power. More belief. More spirit. More love.

I can't take it.

His words are what return to me; not the feeling. I live in reality and take what he says, because what he does is an interpretation. What he says is on record.

And he's said - I don't want a relationship with you.

He's said - I've lost too much and can't risk losing more.
He's said - I never said I wanted anything beyond this.
He's said - I don't remember saying 'I love you'.

And he's said - he can't share any of 'his personal life' with me anymore because of that prior September I lost it and he renamed me 'the emotional wrecking ball'.

So I don't know why he STILL calls.
I don't know WHAT he wants from me.
I don't know WHAT we're doing.
I don't know WHAT THIS EVEN IS.

And I don't think I can do it anymore, whatever it is.

And I don't think a powerful synchronicity or sign is going to stop me from following through this time.

Suddenly, I seem so assured. So secure. So aware and awakened and capable and patient.

I'm not. I'm really none of those things. Not with him. Not here. Not in this.

This, I can't take. THIS, I'm tapping out on.

I'm aimless. Lost. Confused. Sensing something I can't make sense of or control.

I. CANNOT. CONTROL. THIS!

And I can't do this anymore. I can't. I can't. I just - I just can't.

I'm not going away. I'm not changing anything here. I think this is important for YOU guys.

I don't even want to know. I think it's driven me crazy. I think I'm in a fantasy land. I think I've reinterpreted or seen through some rosy lens, everything.

I think I can't handle the truth - regardless of what it is.

Because THIS is my reality.

So what does the truth even matter? Really?

I can't deal with this anymore. But you guys have things to research and share and explore and learn and do. And I WILL do everything in my power to help you guys with that.

As for me ... I can't do this.

I'm sorry. I don't know why I'm losing it NOW, but I am. Really, REALLY losing it.

I just want to jam my fingers into my ears, shut my eyes and hide.

I can't do this.

posted March 01, 2014 04:17 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Excellent questions, Gabby.

I'm going to take a stab from my experience and training in therapy to say it's a very prosaic reason. Why men marry at all.

How many times do they date a woman for years, leave her, get with someone awhile later - and marry her? This used to baffle my clients. And me.

But I knew it when I finally married.

Readiness. It's readiness.

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Most often when men do this, they are just using that woman as a place holder until he does find one he thinks/feels like he could/should marry...That's why he could be with one (or more) for years, then suddenly up and marry someone new within 6 months...

The reasons why he might be doing this (beyond being co-dependent and narcissistic) can range from the superficial, societal pressures/expectations and negative conditioning, maturity (emotional, spiritual, or otherwise), to simply when he "feels" he's found the "the one".

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Originally posted by Gabby:
So how do you know if your supposed to be "with" your twin flame or not? Is it Juno? Is it Eros? There has to be something that says, he's not just your twin flame he's your husband also?? Right??

I would like to know how come others don't seem to have immediately went into a relationship of some sort??

How do we tell if it will manifest into that or stay as a friendship/platonic relationship?

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Each experience is unique...It maybe that it wasn't/isn't part of their journey (and some may know this, while others are still learning, growing, and maturing), or it could also be that it just simply hasn't reached that point if it does happen to be a part of the plan.

The way you phrase that question in bold; "Not 'just' your twin flame" when asking if he's supposed to be your husband too...That's something for you to think about...

Nobody can answer that question but you...

It'll likely come to you when you get to the point where that question doesn't even matter anymore...

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posted March 01, 2014 04:38 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Just off the top:

Your PLUTO is square my VX
Your KARMA is conjunct my ASC
My NEP is on your DSC-MOIRA
I think my ISIS is on your DESTINN-SAGA.
Your VX is on my SUN/MOON MP.
Your VENUS trine my ASC (and your KARMA).
Your MEMORIA is on my PSYCHE.

Your DSC-MOIRA is very close to the SGC, too.

I thought that was cool, though. Namely that your KARMA is on my ASC, and, I think opposes Ceri's JUPITER-CERES, if I recall.

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Yes, it is cool! More evidence that nothing is random...

posted March 01, 2014 04:39 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

I'm slowly coming 'round. Catching up.

So, CAP 5H, with a LIB SUN? You've got Virgo rising, too, don't you? Is the New Moon hitting your DSC?

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I'm glad you're starting to feel better, at least physically, Indigo.

Leo rising, conj Uranus. And it has never seemed to fit me, until I was told about the Cap Saturn squaring my Sun. I didn't get that that aspect could affect the other. Good old "squash me" Saturn.

I'm not sure I know how this moon is hitting me. I'm wanting to curl up, to go inwards, to internalize. I'm wondering if I've shared too much here. And I'm wondering why I'm dredging this all up again.

Is that this moon? Or is it just part of the craziness of "this", this journey? I don't know.

posted March 01, 2014 04:54 AM            

According to IQ the probability of this happening is one in a billion.

Adding to that, his Briede and my Groom are conjunct both our ASC`s (which are conjunct), my NN, my Atlantis and on the antiscion of his Atlantis.
Plus to his name in my chart.

my name in his chart is on 29 Sag conj. my natal Sun.

As of now
his pr Briede is one and a half degree off conjuncting my name in his chart.

(my pr name in his chart right on his pr ASC and only one degree of his Jupiter-NN-conjunction)

his pr name in my chart is still conj. my pr Groom (though 2 degree orb).
It is also conjunct my name in his chart exact,
And obviously that means that my pr Jude and his natal Ceri are meeting up with my pr Groom and his pr Briede on the Aries point, actually right on our composite NN.

his pr Moon and pr Groom are exactly conjunct my pr Briede on 22 Aries, as well.

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in the composite we have an exact Briede-Groom-conjunction on 10 and 11 Aquarius

and our names are exactly conjoined on 8 Pisces (it strikes me significant that my name in Mr Sag`s chart is on 9 Pisces)

the pr composite has our name still on the same degree on 16 Pisces, the very degree of my natal Juno.

conj.n atal composite Vesta and Karma and opposite Valentine.

even in the helio composite Briede and Groom are conjunct (on my natal Moon btw)

And our names are opposite (my name on 13 Pisces his on 11 Virgo)

Valentine is conjunct his name and opposite mine, so part of the parcel as well.

In the helio Davison - and that is not an usual occurrence - my name is at 11 Pisces, his Name on 11 Virgo

With all that Briede-Groom and name asteroid aspecting, does that mean we are doomed to get married?

posted March 01, 2014 04:54 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Bear with me.

About half an hour ago, I started losing it. Just ... losing it. Can't articulate it. Can't make sense of it, either.

All I could see were the words he used to destroy me more deeply than anyone ever had before. Even though I've healed. Even though I'm stronger. Even though it's been over a year.

All I could think was how he'd said that he was sold the true love idea just like the rest of society, and that he was sure that when he found her, he'd know, and that it would be easy to be romantic and passionate and do all the things one's supposed to do.

All I'm thinking now is how, then, it was clear it wasn't me. That it's never been me. He's never fallen in love with me. Maybe he once loved me, or thought he had, or was stoned and mourning his father's death. Maybe that's why he said what he doesn't remember now, but takes my word he'd said it. (In 2009.)

But I was perfect. I was his ideal. He said I was his soulmate. Twice! Using the definition in common parlance. The One. The one you look for. The one of which there's only one. His soulmate. Me. He told me that.

But, for whatever reason, I'm not. I 'did something' or 'said something' that made him no longer desire me in any capacity I do him, or he once had me.

Or maybe then he admitted it's because we're too close and he can't breathe or deal or, he feels like he's married to me, and he can't deal with that, either.

And then I hear him in my head singing that damned song ...

I have to let you go .... I've got a disease. I can't live without you, tell me, what'm I s'posed to do about it? Keep your distance from me. Pay no attention to me ... I've got a disease ....

Things weren't great with my husband after two years. At their (then) worst when we married. But I hadn't suddenly switched gears until I saw him, for the first time in person. And then, God, again, after he'd told me the truth and confessed everything, that January 2012.

I was just lost in longing. I'd stare into space. I felt unhinged.

When we started talking on the phone, later that week, maybe a few days after, (he called because 'I dared him', hah! Right) it all fell into place. I was SO deliriously happy. And my husband was so angry it made me SO happy.

Really? To spend hours plotting and brainstorming? I'm a creative!

I even tried to include him. I did! He said, 'why are you telling me this? I'm not Fate.'

I just left the room and cried.

No. No, you're not, is all I could think. But it was a dangerous thought.

And that's in the past now. All of it. Is it great now? No. But it's so much better.

I should be SO happy.

I wish I could erase these memories.

I tried that, actually. I did. January 2013. A good friend of mine is a hypnotherapist whose specialty is NLP. The one hiccough was that if he called I wouldn't know who he was, and it'd arouse suspicion. Seeing as how I didn't want to have to start living in Memento-mode in order to avoid this horrible pain, I reasoned it wasn't the most bang-up plan I've ever had.

But I REALLY wanted to forget he existed. Then just that anything had ever transpired beyond seeing him the prior January. You know - just get rid of all of 2012.

I thought I could be so blissfully happy in my ignorance. I'd be satisfied with the mundane. I wouldn't have this damnable yearning for SOMETHING.

Because all Fate's ever been is an amplifier on my soul. More joy. More enthusiasm. More passion. More intensity. More inexplicability. More mystery. More contradiction. More pain. More confusion. More misery. More chaos. More beauty. More power. More belief. More spirit. More love.

I can't take it.

His words are what return to me; not the feeling. I live in reality and take what he says, because what he does is an interpretation. What he says is on record.

And he's said - I don't want a relationship with you.

He's said - I've lost too much and can't risk losing more.
He's said - I never said I wanted anything beyond this.
He's said - I don't remember saying 'I love you'.

And he's said - he can't share any of 'his personal life' with me anymore because of that prior September I lost it and he renamed me 'the emotional wrecking ball'.

So I don't know why he STILL calls.
I don't know WHAT he wants from me.
I don't know WHAT we're doing.
I don't know WHAT THIS EVEN IS.

And I don't think I can do it anymore, whatever it is.

And I don't think a powerful synchronicity or sign is going to stop me from following through this time.

Suddenly, I seem so assured. So secure. So aware and awakened and capable and patient.

I'm not. I'm really none of those things. Not with him. Not here. Not in this.

This, I can't take. THIS, I'm tapping out on.

I'm aimless. Lost. Confused. Sensing something I can't make sense of or control.

I. CANNOT. CONTROL. THIS!

And I can't do this anymore. I can't. I can't. I just - I just can't.

I'm not going away. I'm not changing anything here. I think this is important for YOU guys.

I don't even want to know. I think it's driven me crazy. I think I'm in a fantasy land. I think I've reinterpreted or seen through some rosy lens, everything.

I think I can't handle the truth - regardless of what it is.

Because THIS is my reality.

So what does the truth even matter? Really?

I can't deal with this anymore. But you guys have things to research and share and explore and learn and do. And I WILL do everything in my power to help you guys with that.

As for me ... I can't do this.

I'm sorry. I don't know why I'm losing it NOW, but I am. Really, REALLY losing it.

I just want to jam my fingers into my ears, shut my eyes and hide.

I can't do this.

Thanks for listening. I'm going to curl up into a ball and listen to my cat purr. I need it. Desperately.

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Indigo. Sending hugs and love to you.

I so completely get and respect and honor where you are and what you're feeling. This thing, whatever "this" is (funny how we all keep saying those words), is crazy-making.

When I closed down my heart-link to Jace, I also did a Full Moon ceremony, burning EVERYTHING except for my journals. And I only kept those because my dream log was interwoven and I wanted to keep that. I burned ALL of the charting I had done, and for an astrology newbie, it was extensive. I'm starting ALL over here, from scratch. I burned the photo I had gotten off the net. I sobbed and sobbed and sobbed as those flames devoured paper that represented questions, dreams, wonder, amazement, longing, aching, yearning. Love. Yes, love. On some level I don't even understand because I don't "know" him. And yet I KNOW him.

I sobbed again over his Facebook page where he is pictured with his new wife. And even as I prayed for him to be happy, I asked "WHY?". WHY THIS? "Whatever this is". Because this is probably the most difficult thing I've ever gone through. And I thought the abuse in my marriage was difficult. This nebulous journey through inexplicable connection in astral/etheric dimensions, through the heart, via psychic awareness through so many clairs, is so difficult.

I hear you. I hear the same agony that resonates through me. The same weariness with the questions that aren't producing ready answers.

Rest. Put this to rest if that is the only way to find peace with this. Do what you need to do for YOU.

Be well, Indigo.

posted March 01, 2014 05:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

So who knows, he very well could even be missing you too...

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If he is, he`s got his chance of seeing me again this weekend.

posted March 01, 2014 05:47 AM            

"I've found that the MEAN BML (the one listed as 'Lilith' in the drop-down menu) is the true 'counterpart', mathematically speaking, for h22 (PRIAPUS)."
No, actually h21 (int. Lilith or natural Lilith) is the mathematic/ astronomical counterpart. However h21 never has a greater distance than 5 egrees from mean Lilith anyway.

" I'm of the 'school' where the TRUE is wilder and less restrained than the MEAN. That is, so far."
I would agree with that. Darkstar astrology interpretes it that way, too.

BTW the counterpart of True BML is actually NOT the Priapus we are mostly using, but the point exactly opposite True BML - they are an axis like the nodal one.

"I don't see LILITH 1181 to be a counterpart to PRIAPUS, however, as there's no mathematical nor axis relationship. The two are not expressing polarity as is typically seen of h22 / h13-BML-TBML."
Totally agree with you.

"BML-PRIAPUS"
If you say BML yu mean mean, right?
WEll, I would exchange it for the natural one, as this is the only true mathematic counterpart of Priapus, but apart from that I would agree.

LOL

I jsut realized something.

You remember my outburst yesterday?

Tr Moon was right on my BML and his Priapus, and also on my true BML (they are exactly conjoined for me) and opposite his true BML. lol

"• TBML-PRIAPUS is also very sexual in nature with powerful need / desire / obsessive overtones. Again, the BML is 'in control' with PRIAPUS desperate to 'merge'."
This might be,

however personally I wouldn`t pair up TBML and Priapus (despite they often aspecting each other), because they have a different mathematic basis. Maybe they can be interpreted in aspect, but not as an axis/ polarity, becuase they simply aren`t due to their different calculation.

"I'm unfamiliar with the square. My guess is that it would be potent, but manageable. Soft aspects I'd imagine wouldn't be felt."

Jude and me have that his True BML is conjunct his Mars (on my VAlentine) in our 12th houses, and squaring my True BML exactly.

As for orbs, I use the same as with any calculated points, 3-4 degrees, though of course everything under 2 degrees will be more dramaticaly felt.

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with Mr Sag

his PRIAPOS conjunct my BML 2°48

our true PRIAPUS is conjunct each other`s true TBML 0°23

(late Leo-Aquarius)

Both are falling onto his nodal axis with NN on 1°22 Virgo and my BML and his PRIAPUS on his SN.

posted March 01, 2014 05:48 AM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Same thing happened. He never revealed his relationship status but it had to be unearthed that day. Threw me off a little. I'm still blurred whether she is or isn't a gf.

Anyway i couldn't figure out his ASC. Plotted a 12th house composite chart for them by working backwards and...it's likely his ASC is on my Kaali. I have read your earlier posts from older threads on your Kaali cjt his ASC which makes sense because how else can you feel the pulling sensation.

Ran Davison charts and one very interesting find was the Davison Karma they have. I have Venus conjunct Mars in Davison with him and it conjuncts their karma at the same point. It's like I intercepted their karma or something.

(Anyway don't quote.)

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I don´t know her birthday, however, it was HIS Kaali on my ASC. Why am I the one feeling the pull? lol

posted March 01, 2014 05:53 AM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[b] Yes, that`s the crap.
I am already over it. (well the reason for my outburst was, and I literally screamed LEAVE ME ALONE, at the top of my lungs last night, hoping noone heard me. lol)

The reason was simply him posting a picture of him and his girlfriend, where hew as kissing her, not even her mouth, just a kiss on her temple, but I lost it for some hours there.
I mean I KNOW he is in a relationship, but odo I relaly have to see it???
I dont deserve this **** !

And not the very day before I am going to see him on stage (tomorrow and sunday). NO.

But yeah, as I said I am already over it. lol
It is what it is. And at least I know know where the pulling aching sensation in my heartchakra (and solar plexus one) came from 2 days ago. *sighs* it works everytime, doesn`t it?

I wonder if he sometimes feels something like that, too. Though of course i am not going around and screwing the next possible man near to me.

Okay, maybe I am not COMPLETELY over it yet. LOL

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Someone pointed out to me, seeing the pic, that it didn`t even look like a real kiss, definitely not a romantic one.

But I guess it is just the gush of reality or at least the reality of what is going on in his physical life, as opposed to my spiritual experience of it all.

Actually I think it might not be bad that I saw that, so I can keep things in perspective when seeing him, and actually I feel more free about it, and un-anxious than I probably would otherwise.

posted March 01, 2014 06:01 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

So, your CERES/JUPITER is on my DSC, and your ASC, ATLANTIS, NEP, and NNODE on my IC.

Well, damn, Ceri! That makes just a little sense.

Oh, and his MOON is 28° SAG? Lord, help me. No wonder!

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BTW I liked your post on the BML-Priapus-symmetry and I very much agree with it.

I also think for a complete analysis it can`t be left out, just like we cannot leave out the nodal axis, Draco chart or moon-aspects.

It is a lunar based axis (well actually featuring the trinity of Sun - Moon - Earth), and the lunar symbols are the ones significant for soul-connections, so I personally wouldn`t leave this pairing out, even though it sometimes can feel a bit, well, uncomfortable. lol

posted March 01, 2014 06:12 AM            

"First, which helio are we using, the first option or sidereal?"
first option, tropical.

"Are we using Draconic from the first drop-down chart or the second?"
You can use both. First has the comparision with tropical natal, but you can`t use it for synstary or composite.
If you want that, you have to use the second menue.

"Are we tracking aspects between chart types?"
Only conjunctions and oppositions within maybe 3 degrees. They are linking the dimensions together, like gates.
Oh and keep it limited to comparing with the tropical (no helio-DRaconic for starters).

the tropical is where things manifest, get visible, anchor in the physical dimension. We can have the most wonderful helio or Draco chart, which talks about unconditional spiritual or soulful / past life love, but if there is no direct link (conjunction/ opposition) to the tropical, nothing might come out of it.

Keep an eye especially on what conjuncts the angles in tropical, especially ASC-DESC-axis, though the IC_MC and vertex-axis is also important of course. The Vertex activation in particular can lead to lifechanging events taking place and coming through from the past or spirit. Though with Vertex, noone said anything about lastingness. Sometimes it is just a lifeturning moment.

But before you do that you have to understand the natals, look for the themes that pop up there, and see if you can track them through the charts.

I did that some posts above this one in terms of Venus-Pluto which is a definite theme aparently with vibrating through all dimensions.

Alternatively if you notice a certain degree coming up as significant for you in tropical, usually if there is a synastric conjunction happening, too, see if that comes up in the other charts as well.

That is the ONLY time I would compare Davison with composite btw. Just to check for shared degrees, as these would be activated simultaneously through transits.

Happens for us with 25 Leo-Aquarius.

Davison Isis-Osiris on 25 Leo - both
Composite Vertex on 25 Leo
Composite Psyche on 25 Aquarius

and our pr composite Venus is there as well.

While i would not usually compare Davison Isis-Osiris to compostie anything, it is the degree that matters in this case.

btw we met when the transiting Chiron-Neptune-NN-conjunction was passing this position in Aquarius.

posted March 01, 2014 06:19 AM            

you and me both.

I said it myself: I can`t do this anymore.

But the truth is I will.
Even though I do not understand, I just will.

I was asking my Higher Self what the lesson is in it, what am I to learn here.

I don`t know if that is the ultimate lesson, bu one part of it is that I realize that sometimes feelings really are stronger than reason.

They do not just go away, just because I will them to, and i do not even really mean it. lol

What to DO with this? I have no idea. Time will tell I suppose.

posted March 01, 2014 06:24 AM              

How you came up with Priapus-BML is because you have it. Why you want to insist on this conjunction pairing being important, is you want to believe it is important so that your relationship holds a reason for existence. Everytime after a discussion, I also notice you will freak out from it. A Priapus-BML relationship doesn't heal, they clash.