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Ceridwen
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posted March 01, 2014 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone ever made a composite of their natal chart and a very important event in their life, like when you met your tf? Or when something significant took place?

I find these very telling.


Last time I encountered Mr Sag and I was kind of surprised how calm and confident I was during that meeting.


The composite with that exact moment (from my perspective) had:

Close Moon conjunct Jupiter in Taurus in 7th house, making a GT with Venus in Cap in 3rd and SAturn in Virgo in 11th

That was pretty descriptive for me.


Sun was squaring Saturn by 3 degrees, but apparently not even that could prevent the chat from happening.

Pluto was conjunct NN exact, too

From his perspective (comp. of HIS natal and this moment)

Sun in Sag conjunct DESC exactly!
and also trine Leo-Jupiter in 2nd

LOL I was having Moon-Jupiter-conjunction in 7th; he was having Sun in 7th trine Jupiter;
my Moon was exalted, his Sun in mutual reception with Jupiter.


his Sun was also squrae Mars.

He had a Pluto-Vertex-conjunction in the 6th house, he must have met someone in his workenvironment around that time.

sextile Uranus in 8th - probably quite unexpectedly, but nevertheless not unpleasant - or something URanian


However the poor man also had a close Moon-Saturn-conjunction in Libra in 5th house squaring Cappy-Venus in 8th house.

Mutual reception of Venus-Saturn

Venus was also widely trine Mars, but with 5 degrees, I am not sure if it is still a valid orb for this kind of chart-casting


Interestngly this Moon-Saturn-conjunction he had in thatm oment, fell onto his natal Pluto in 7th house. (and my DNA. lol)

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posted March 01, 2014 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for micole maree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri,

Your post begs this question:

Have you charted tomorrow? (Er, today?)

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posted March 01, 2014 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just had a look. However I can`t use the angles.

I noticed though that for me

there is a triple conjunction of Mercury-Uranus-Neptune. Mercury sandwiched between Uranus and Neptune.
And just one minut away from my natal Sun/Moon-mp (and antivertex).

Venus is 5 degrees away, too far for this kind of chart (2-3 degrees at most).
But I should keep and eye on that one, cause someday in the next months Venus will probably catch up with the Uranus-Neptune-conjunction there.


Venus is actually exactly sextile Mars in Scorpio (tightest aspect I think).


Mercury trines Saturn by 1 and a half degree, but it is separating, so losing impact I think


Sun is on the antiscion of Pluto by 25 minuts of orb and applying

For him it is these aspects:

triple conjunction of Sun, Moon and Uranus in aquarius.

However, Moon is clearly separating from Sun (3-4 degrees) and clearly out of orb of Uranus.
Moon is though applying to an opposition to Jupiter in Leo (2 degree orb)


Sun conjunct Uranus by 2 degrees and both trine Libra-Mars.
The Sun-Mars-trine is only 17 minutes of arc and might be the most exact aspect.

So interestingly both of us have Mars in an exact aspect over the weekend (Sun and Venus), though it is more smooth and harmonious than compelling (sextile and trine)

His MErcury is separating from a square to Chiron (2 degrees) - has something happened in the past days, that hurt him verbally?


Venus is applying to a conjunction with Neptune (1°33)
It is in orb and very valid, but the peak of it is in the future, might get more intensely dreamy than usually I suppose.


This Venus-Neptune- is STILL squaring saturn in Libra; however while the Venus-Saturn square was pretty much exact last november, now it is 1°18. Still valid, but lessening in impact.

It is even more lessening since Venus is moving away quickly from that square, and saturn will turn retrograde and backing away from the square even more quickly. lol
I suppose the worst of that Venus-Saturn for him is over.


In fact Venus is moving into a trine to Juno (still 2 degrees applying)


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posted March 01, 2014 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Me, too. It's my URA-MOON conjunction. It's about 1.5°.

My Moon is quindecile Uranus 0° and Neptune 2° lol

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posted March 01, 2014 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Hang on. Arizona? Where? Northern? Like near Sedona? Do you know?

In not sure of its exact location, but here's a good site that illustrates its maps in correlation to the constellation.

http://www.theorionzone.com/maps.htm

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posted March 01, 2014 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indigo,

I really don't know what else to say to you, but I hope that you can find some solace.

Things happen for a reason, and its not for the sake of torturing you, but lessons and tests to be learned/experienced I guess.

This too shall pass, feel better

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posted March 01, 2014 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
If he is, he`s got his chance of seeing me again this weekend.

Thanks, and yes, I do feel better. One of the myriads of tests I suppose.


Lucky you lol.

Tell us how it goes!

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posted March 01, 2014 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Has anyone ever made a composite of their natal chart and a very important event in their life, like when you met your tf? Or when something significant took place?

I find these very telling.


Last time I encountered Mr Sag and I was kind of surprised how calm and confident I was during that meeting.


The composite with that exact moment (from my perspective) had:

Close Moon conjunct Jupiter in Taurus in 7th house, making a GT with Venus in Cap in 3rd and SAturn in Virgo in 11th

That was pretty descriptive for me.


Sun was squaring Saturn by 3 degrees, but apparently not even that could prevent the chat from happening.

Pluto was conjunct NN exact, too

From his perspective (comp. of HIS natal and this moment)

Sun in Sag conjunct DESC exactly!
and also trine Leo-Jupiter in 2nd

LOL I was having Moon-Jupiter-conjunction in 7th; he was having Sun in 7th trine Jupiter;
my Moon was exalted, his Sun in mutual reception with Jupiter.


his Sun was also squrae Mars.

He had a Pluto-Vertex-conjunction in the 6th house, he must have met someone in his workenvironment around that time.

sextile Uranus in 8th - probably quite unexpectedly, but nevertheless not unpleasant - or something URanian


However the poor man also had a close Moon-Saturn-conjunction in Libra in 5th house squaring Cappy-Venus in 8th house.

Mutual reception of Venus-Saturn

Venus was also widely trine Mars, but with 5 degrees, I am not sure if it is still a valid orb for this kind of chart-casting


Interestngly this Moon-Saturn-conjunction he had in thatm oment, fell onto his natal Pluto in 7th house. (and my DNA. lol)


Transits to our progressed composite on the day we met- 3/15/10 (orbs 3 and under):
Tr Jupiter conjunct tr Amor and sextile tr Juno
Tr Saturn @ 2Lib trine pVenus, square Pjuno and sextile pCeres
Tr Pluto conjunct pJuno
pJuno trine pChiron
Tr Chiron square pValentine
pUnion opposite pPsyche
TrVenus conjunct pUnion
TrNeptune trine pVesta and quincux Valentine
TrUranus opposite pVesta and sextile pValentine

Transits to my progressed natal:
TrSaturn conjunct pNN (pNN @ 2Lib exact!)
TrJupiter (conjunct trAmor and TrMoon) trine pJupiter
TrJupiter makes Tsquare with pSun/Eros/Union conjunction and pPallas/Vesta/Vertex conjunction
TrNN opposite pVenus/Valentine conjunction
PMoon conjunct pASC
PAmor square pJupiter
TrNeptune conjunct trChiron
pMC/IC axis making a Tsquare with pJupiter

Transits to his progressed natal:
TrSaturn sitting on 2Libra
TrNN conjunct Vega
TrVenus conjunct pVenus
TrNeptune conjunct trChiron - makes a Tsquare with pJuno and pAmor
TrJuno square pSaturn, sextile TrJupiter, trine pPsyche and opposite pUranus


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posted March 01, 2014 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hah! His KAALI is 26° AQU. (It's conjunct our H-KAALI-RUDRA exactly.)

And isn't your KAALI on the SGC?

I just realised mine's on VEGA. Well, THAT makes sense.


Nope; it's my Sun and Angel on the SGC, along with his Karma and our Composite Atlantis.

My Kaali is in the 1st, conjunct Ceres, Chiron, Yes, and Spirit: a little grouping I quite like (in my old age, at least), but it probably scares the bejesus out of most people.

Just realized/remembered my Valentine is conjunct his Kaali at Aqu 24.15 (His Valentine is conjunct my Moira).

Our Composite Angel and helio Composite Aura is widely conjunct my Kaali, if you want to go out to about 3 degrees. Ditto (about 3 degrees) for my Jupiter and our Davison Amor and Osiris to his Kaali. But that's where I think you start getting into the "too many charts and too many asteroids so it's probably just coincidence" thing. I wish I had a better grasp of mathematics and probabilities.

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posted March 01, 2014 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Are your BMLs conjunct? Or PRIAP ... II? I'm not sure the plural. Priapuses seems odd.

Our Priapus's are widely conjunct in Sag (very wide though- 6.5) and parallel.

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Bear with me.

About half an hour ago, I started losing it. Just ... losing it. Can't articulate it. Can't make sense of it, either.

All I could see were the words he used to destroy me more deeply than anyone ever had before. Even though I've healed. Even though I'm stronger. Even though it's been over a year.

All I could think was how he'd said that he was sold the true love idea just like the rest of society, and that he was sure that when he found her, he'd know, and that it would be easy to be romantic and passionate and do all the things one's supposed to do.

All I'm thinking now is how, then, it was clear it wasn't me. That it's never been me. He's never fallen in love with me. Maybe he once loved me, or thought he had, or was stoned and mourning his father's death. Maybe that's why he said what he doesn't remember now, but takes my word he'd said it. (In 2009.)

But I was perfect. I was his ideal. He said I was his soulmate. Twice! Using the definition in common parlance. The One. The one you look for. The one of which there's only one. His soulmate. Me. He told me that.

But, for whatever reason, I'm not. I 'did something' or 'said something' that made him no longer desire me in any capacity I do him, or he once had me.

Or maybe then he admitted it's because we're too close and he can't breathe or deal or, he feels like he's married to me, and he can't deal with that, either.

And then I hear him in my head singing that damned song ...

I have to let you go .... I've got a disease. I can't live without you, tell me, what'm I s'posed to do about it? Keep your distance from me. Pay no attention to me ... I've got a disease ....

Things weren't great with my husband after two years. At their (then) worst when we married. But I hadn't suddenly switched gears until I saw him, for the first time in person. And then, God, again, after he'd told me the truth and confessed everything, that January 2012.

I was just lost in longing. I'd stare into space. I felt unhinged.

When we started talking on the phone, later that week, maybe a few days after, (he called because 'I dared him', hah! Right) it all fell into place. I was SO deliriously happy. And my husband was so angry it made me SO happy.

Really? To spend hours plotting and brainstorming? I'm a creative!

I even tried to include him. I did! He said, 'why are you telling me this? I'm not Fate.'

I just left the room and cried.

No. No, you're not, is all I could think. But it was a dangerous thought.

And that's in the past now. All of it. Is it great now? No. But it's so much better.

I should be SO happy.

I wish I could erase these memories.

I tried that, actually. I did. January 2013. A good friend of mine is a hypnotherapist whose specialty is NLP. The one hiccough was that if he called I wouldn't know who he was, and it'd arouse suspicion. Seeing as how I didn't want to have to start living in Memento-mode in order to avoid this horrible pain, I reasoned it wasn't the most bang-up plan I've ever had.

But I REALLY wanted to forget he existed. Then just that anything had ever transpired beyond seeing him the prior January. You know - just get rid of all of 2012.

I thought I could be so blissfully happy in my ignorance. I'd be satisfied with the mundane. I wouldn't have this damnable yearning for SOMETHING.

Because all Fate's ever been is an amplifier on my soul. More joy. More enthusiasm. More passion. More intensity. More inexplicability. More mystery. More contradiction. More pain. More confusion. More misery. More chaos. More beauty. More power. More belief. More spirit. More love.

I can't take it.

His words are what return to me; not the feeling. I live in reality and take what he says, because what he does is an interpretation. What he says is on record.

And he's said - I don't want a relationship with you.

He's said - I've lost too much and can't risk losing more.
He's said - I never said I wanted anything beyond this.
He's said - I don't remember saying 'I love you'.

And he's said - he can't share any of 'his personal life' with me anymore because of that prior September I lost it and he renamed me 'the emotional wrecking ball'.

So I don't know why he STILL calls.
I don't know WHAT he wants from me.
I don't know WHAT we're doing.
I don't know WHAT THIS EVEN IS.

And I don't think I can do it anymore, whatever it is.

And I don't think a powerful synchronicity or sign is going to stop me from following through this time.

Suddenly, I seem so assured. So secure. So aware and awakened and capable and patient.

I'm not. I'm really none of those things. Not with him. Not here. Not in this.

This, I can't take. THIS, I'm tapping out on.

I'm aimless. Lost. Confused. Sensing something I can't make sense of or control.

I. CANNOT. CONTROL. THIS!

And I can't do this anymore. I can't. I can't. I just - I just can't.

I'm not going away. I'm not changing anything here. I think this is important for YOU guys.

I don't even want to know. I think it's driven me crazy. I think I'm in a fantasy land. I think I've reinterpreted or seen through some rosy lens, everything.

I think I can't handle the truth - regardless of what it is.

Because THIS is my reality.

So what does the truth even matter? Really?

I can't deal with this anymore. But you guys have things to research and share and explore and learn and do. And I WILL do everything in my power to help you guys with that.

As for me ... I can't do this.

I'm sorry. I don't know why I'm losing it NOW, but I am. Really, REALLY losing it.

I just want to jam my fingers into my ears, shut my eyes and hide.

I can't do this.

Thanks for listening. I'm going to curl up into a ball and listen to my cat purr. I need it. Desperately.


Dear Indigo- I've been where you are....so many many times. I'm so sorry. I believe what someone also mentioned in this thread- destiny will play out..I truly believe that. If you two are meant to be together, you will be...but I agree it's about readiness. You did say you have confirmed being a TF (carrying the vibration?). Well I have read that if, for some reason your TF doesn't come to you...the universe will present another TF for you. Remember it's about a spiritual purpose which your soul signed up for. Your destiny is to fulfill that purpose somehow...and if he wasn't really your TF who will eventually come to you? Then your true TF will...I believe that's almost guaranteed. We've all been given too special of a mission for it to go to waste.

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posted March 01, 2014 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

Lucky you lol.

Tell us how it goes!


Hope you have a great time Ceri! Really hope something positive happens between you guys . We all will be waiting for an update!

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posted March 01, 2014 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indigo,

Sorry you are having such a tough time. Hope you feel better soon.

I see you mentioned the SGC again to someone else. What are you thinking is at/near 16 Sag? It's not the SGC, unless you mean something other than Super Galactic Center. The SGC is at 1/2 Libra.

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posted March 01, 2014 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for micole maree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, please bear with me. The newbie again.

This morning has been filled with synchronicities. Two messages (about Divine timing and synchronicities no less!) found their way to me on Facebook. One after the other. And I *knew* something else would happen today. I'm not sure if this is IT, but I'm feeling that *knowing* in my gut again. There's something here. Maybe not what I "think" it is, but something is lurking here.

I ran a search on "twin flame astral" this morning and one of the sites I ended up on had channeled information. Included in that channeled information was mention of starseeds. AND mention of Pleiades, Sirius and ANDROMEDA.

Do you remember my first post where I mentioned that something about the coordinates that Indigo had brought up was resonating with me and that I thought of Indigo children? And wondered if entire soul groups came here and maybe that was the connection to certain coordinates? <<<EDIT: "soul groups" should read "soul families". Soul groups are small and intimate with fifteen to twenty souls. Soul families are HUGE.>>>

You all (and your TFS) seem to have connections to the same fixed star(s). I don't. And I'm a generation or more away from most of you.

I'm really wondering now.

Because Jace and I have a connection to this fixed star. We're four and a half years apart natally.

Synastry helio:

ANDROMEDA: 27.17 Aries
His AURA conj Andromeda 27.21 Aries
My VENUS conj Andromeda 26.03 Aries

I know it's only one connection (so far; I've been up all night and I'll have to look further tomorrow), but since I have almost nothing significant at this point and NOTHING involving a fixed star, this feels pretty dang good.

Oh, and the other thing I realized is that my name asteroid shows up in Jace's chart at 2.02 Libra. (Going back to the 27 Sag and the 2 Libra discussion.)

More later. Have a great day!

***Note: If Andromeda was mentioned elsewhere in this thread and I missed it, ack, forgive me. Bottom-line, I'm happy to have found it, no matter the source.

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
In not sure of its exact location, but here's a good site that illustrates its maps in correlation to the constellation.

http://www.theorionzone.com/maps.htm


Lavender originally said: "There have also been pyramids and monuments found in Mexico and Arizona that are structured in a way that they are in perfect alignment with the stars of Orion."

The map in Arizona you linked to is of current and ancient Indian villages. The Hopi still live in First, Second, and Third Mesa and descend from the ancient pueblo people who built the other villages on the map, now ruins. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if ancient people aligned their villages with the stars of Orion (or other constellations), but I don't think there are major "pyramids and monuments" per se in Arizona that align with Orion.

I'd also have to do some research to figure out when the sites he notes on the map were built, by whom, and how many other sites there are that *don't* align with Orion, as well as what the Hopi themselves say (if they will tell you), to know if there is any validity to this man's theories.

EDIT: Indigo, the Hopi Mesas (in this man's theory, the "belt" of Orion) are northeast of Sedona, more than 3 hours/150 miles.

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Originally posted by micole maree:
Okay, please bear with me. The newbie again.

This morning has been filled with synchronicities. Two messages (about Divine timing and synchronicities no less!) found their way to me on Facebook. One after the other. And I *knew* something else would happen today. I'm not sure if this is IT, but I'm feeling that *knowing* in my gut again. There's something here. Maybe not what I "think" it is, but something is lurking here.

I ran a search on "twin flame astral" this morning and one of the sites I ended up on had channeled information. Included in that channeled information was mention of starseeds. AND mention of Pleiades, Sirius and ANDROMEDA.

Do you remember my first post where I mentioned that something about the coordinates that Indigo had brought up was resonating with me and that I thought of Indigo children? And wondered if entire soul groups came here and maybe that was the connection to certain coordinates?

You all (and your TFS) seem to have connections to the same fixed star(s). I don't. And I'm a generation or more away from most of you.

I'm really wondering now.

Because Jace and I have a connection to this fixed star. We're four and a half years apart natally.

Synastry helio:

ANDROMEDA: 27.17 Aries
His AURA conj Andromeda 27.21 Aries
My VENUS conj Andromeda 26.03 Aries

I know it's only one connection (so far; I've been up all night and I'll have to look further tomorrow), but since I have almost nothing significant at this point and NOTHING involving a fixed star, this feels pretty dang good.

Oh, and the other thing I realized is that my name asteroid shows up in Jace's chart at 2.02 Libra. (Going back to the 27 Sag and the 2 Libra discussion.)

More later. Have a great day!

***Note: If Andromeda was mentioned elsewhere in this thread and I missed it, ack, forgive me. Bottom-line, I'm happy to have found it, no matter the source.


Well that's interesting: Cusp's natal chiron falls exactly on Andomeda @ 27Aries which conjuncts his First/last name asteroids conjunction in my natal!
In his natal my first name asteroid is conjunct his NN by 1 which happens to be opposite Andomeda by a wide 3.5.

Normally I would say this is too wide BUT as you can see Andromeda closely conjuncts his name asteroid in my natal and my name asteroid closely opposes his Andromeda in his natal! WOW!!!!


In our tropical composite, we have a venus/mars opposition with our venus conjunct Andromeda by 1.5.

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I don't agree with what you said about Priapus. I find it so pointless to even argue with you about it, Indigo.

How you came up with Priapus-BML is because you have it. Why you want to insist on this conjunction pairing being important, is you want to believe it is important so that your relationship holds a reason for existence. Everytime after a discussion, I also notice you will freak out from it. A Priapus-BML relationship doesn't heal, they clash.


Summerlite, I understand you and I don't see eye to eye on virtually anything, for whatever reason. Your antagonism towards me, however, is personal and unreasonably judgemental.

The relationships I have DO exist for MANY significant reasons, and I'd never hinge THAT upon a single aspect or even a configuration.

I am a scientist.

In all honesty, the aspect made no sense to me until I discovered I had it prominently. BML did, yes, but PRIAPUS, no. Finding it helped me understand a great deal. Since then, I've explored it in many charts and have found a definite theme. Like anything, it's placement and configuration.

In my case, it is definitely healing. While perhaps all might not be, there IS potential, and it's worth your being a bit more open-minded about.

That's all I wish to say - on THIS matter.

You and I disagree. It's simple as that.

Please refrain from future ad hominem attacks, or I will have to request this particular subject be closed. I'd rather not do that, as it's ALL important, and one of our opinions does not supersede the whole.

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posted March 01, 2014 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
In not sure of its exact location, but here's a good site that illustrates its maps in correlation to the constellation.

http://www.theorionzone.com/maps.htm


Thanks for sharing that. Alas, it seems easily disproved. Ah, well.
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/1/post/2013/01/an-orion-correlation-on-the-hopi-reservation.html

I DO feel an unbelievable tie to Sedona, and I've also been driven towards Phoenix by many things. But LA is where I must be now. I know that much.

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Thanks for sharing that. Alas, it seems easily disproved. Ah, well.
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/1/post/2013/01/an-orion-correlation-on-the-hopi-rese rvation.html

I DO feel an unbelievable tie to Sedona, and I've also been driven towards Phoenix by many things. But LA is where I must be now. I know that much.


Lol oh well Pity.

I myself feel drawn towards Sedona as well.. I wanna check out the energy vortexes there someday.

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Lavender originally said: "There have also been pyramids and monuments found in Mexico and Arizona that are structured in a way that they are in perfect alignment with the stars of Orion."

The map in Arizona you linked to is of current and ancient Indian villages. The Hopi still live in First, Second, and Third Mesa and descend from the ancient pueblo people who built the other villages on the map, now ruins. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if ancient people aligned their villages with the stars of Orion (or other constellations), but I don't think there are major "pyramids and monuments" per se in Arizona that align with Orion.

I'd also have to do some research to figure out when the sites he notes on the map were built, by whom, and how many other sites there are that *don't* align with Orion, as well as what the Hopi themselves say (if they will tell you), to know if there is any validity to this man's theories.

EDIT: Indigo, the Hopi Mesas (in this man's theory, the "belt" of Orion) are northeast of Sedona, more than 3 hours/150 miles.


Oops, you're right lol.
They are villages, not monuments.

I mostly did my research on how Orion was connected to Osiris and Egypt, rather than anywhere else though.

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Lol oh well Pity.

I myself feel drawn towards Sedona as well.. I wanna check out the energy vortexes there someday.


Interesting, I went camping there in Arizona over 10 years ago. Spent over 2 weeks moving across that state (along with New Mexico), Sedona was one of those places. Red Rock was one place we stayed for a couple of days, and we did visit some of the ruins (Wupatki)...It is a beautiful place...

I remember posting somewhere back in this thread about our NA theme, and how I always felt that connection. One of my clearest memories from this visit was feeling that connection...

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I forgot to add Montezuma and Hopi to the aspect list for the Native American theme where we have Sootiyo-Soomana conj., and they are:

t-synastry
His Hopi-Chiron @ 20 Aqu trine My Hopi @ 21 18' Lib, squ. My Sun @ 20 Tau (and his Mars)
My Hopi @ 21 18' Ari opp His Lilith (and My Ceres) 21 13' Ari
His Montezuma-IC @ 19 Gem conj. My Ute exact with my Asc. 2 degrees away @ 17 Gem, and his Saturn opp.
My Montezuma-NNode @ 6 10'-7 Gem squ. His Sun-Juno @ 6 38' Vir with His Dsc. @ 10 Vir
His Ute-Mercury-Pallas @ 25 38' Leo conj. My IC @ 23 Leo

t-composite
Montezuma @ 16 07' Gem trine our Node exact @ 16 07' Aqu
Hopi @ 7 56' Leo loosely conj. Juno @ 5 24' Leo, trine Ute-Moon @ 9 20' Sag and Valentine @ 6 11' Ari

h-Synastry

h-Synastry
His Hopi conj. My Pallas exact
His Soomana conj. My Montezuma (2)
His Vesta conj. My Ute (1)
His Venus conj. My Sootiyo (exact), Juno (2)
His Uranus conj. My Soomana (exact)
His Saturn conj. My Mercury (exact), opp. Ute (1)
His Ceres conj. My valentine (<1)

There are more, but these are easy to eyeball.

re. Andromeda, our t-comp Asc. falls on it @ 27 51' Ari.

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Indigo,

I really don't know what else to say to you, but I hope that you can find some solace.

Things happen for a reason, and its not for the sake of torturing you, but lessons and tests to be learned/experienced I guess.

This too shall pass, feel better


:hugs: Heh. I read that as 'solstice' rather than 'solace'. 😉

I wish to believe. I do. I'm a Scully turned Mulder thanks to a decade of experiences, research, and study. I was born a metaphysical being who was intended to do great, big things.

And I turned on it all. I turned on my family. On my upbringing.

I COULDN'T believe.

I married a man who believes in nothing - neither God nor country. A scientist bordering on quiet anarchy.

My formal study is of a discipline where the unexplained is madness, misinformation or deception. Having volunteered myself to run through an extensive psychological and psychiatric battery at age 19 after my first 'Soulmate relationship', I knew the things to which I was predisposed: OCD, GAD, and dysthymia. I was diagnosed schizoid, but began fearing much later that the correct diagnosis wasn't schizotypal.

See, at 19, I was still close to home, so to speak. My parents weren't (and actually aren't) crazy, so answering certain questions a particular way would indicate one or the other.

For example: I didn't think psychic phenomena was weird. I was quite used to having precognitive dreams, too.

I would therefore not answer 'I have some odd mystical beliefs.' No, that's just how the world worked - according to my family. Despite breaking from the mild at age 12, my love and respect for them led me to never quite break completely.

Is my mother psychic? If there is such a thing, undoubtedly 'yes'.

Am I? Well, even though I've now done the things she has, and have so much more experience under my belt, the answer is 'no'.

Why?

That's not logical. That's not scientific. That's contradictory in terms. That's saying that things which occur outside of me and to whom I consider sane are therefore legitimate.

Yet, despite nothing ever indicating otherwise, I'm more inclined to consider myself insane rather than part of some spiritual destiny or greater whole.

Good lord, why? I don't know.

But it remains indisputable fact that the very same books that I use to diagnose my clients are the ones which would also label us with some sort of Delusional Disorder NOS' (that's 'non-specified'; rather wastebasket definition, really, but that's made it no less 'popular').

That is, unless we're already potentially flirting with schizophrenia. Then we're flat out schizophreniform, so long as it's been at least 6 months, blah-blah-blah.

It's easy to ridicule the mad from the outside. It's easy to condemn those who have untested, unverified, 'non-normative' beliefs to simply being crazy.

Unless you know them.

It's also statistically easier to kill someone called Subject A, because there's a gun to your head, and another at your child's. It's when Subject A becomes Sally Smith, aged 45, with two young children, who wanted nothing more than to attend medical school and become a doctor and go to Africa to help the starving children there - it's not so easy.

Even if Sally is a stripper at the Bump N' Grind who made bad choices and is nursing a coke habit with half her earnings - KNOWING she's a person - makes it harder.

My mother is metaphysical.
My best friend from college developed schizophrenia our freshman year. And through some bizarre unprofessionalism on behalf of the dorm director, I diagnosed it - whereas the psychiatric facility said 'bipolar I'. Bipolar I, my left foot. The man with whom I was involved was Bipolar I.

I digress.

Oh. Except - and now he's with a woman who believes in faeries. And for that, I thought: crazy. Madwoman.

Why?

'Because I'm a scientist.'

My weapons, Razor of Occam; Sagan's Candle of Light, illuminating the dark, unknown void of That Which Is Unexplained.

And science says nothing can be unexplained. There's always a logical, rational explanation. We must simply find it.

It's been my mantra. My comfort. Despite feeling torn between two vastly opposing worlds. Sanity and madness. Mysticism and science.

My mother made a lovely book of the first few years of my life. 'A Star Is Born!' was glittery and emblazoned across the original invitation to celebrate my arrival. Not a girl, a star. Even then, such high hopes.

No wonder 'Evergreen' was the first song I ever sang to a large audience. I was 8; there were about 500 people in the amphitheatre. I wasn't even fazed. I BELONGED on that stage, mike in hand, singing to this crowd of people who rose in standing ovation after I concluded (holding the 11-second note in my young soprano voice, of course! Virgo rising? Hello! Perfection! Nothing less).

Then I grew up. 16 March 1993.

The house burnt down, and I'd never seen my parents so hopeless, helpless, and haggard. Dreams and notions outside of practical reality were for other twelve-year-olds. Not me. Whatever childhood I had, I abandoned out of pragmatism.

When I saw the shrivelled plastic dotting the sea of brown sog beneath my feet, the realisation that all of my stars, the little phosphorescent stickers in star shapes that perfectly matched the sky at the time of my birth, a 2-year project, a young astronomer's labour of love, when I saw they had all fallen down, something in me changed.

As I collected them in my hands, discarding them with sooty fingertips, and I saw the place which had been my home had become a hollowed-out husk, I put away the one astrology book I had - Linda Goodman's Sun Signs, which had been my godmother's - and I swore from that day forward, I wouldn't trouble myself with such existential trivialities.

I stopped singing. But I continued writing. Until age 18, as I was starting University, and that wasn't a proper subject. We'd always been surprisingly impoverished, something like low-middle class, despite my parents being an heir and heiress. They wanted to make it on their own. I respect them for that. It paid off, too. Decades of hard work paid off. Literally.

I couldn't stay away from the theatre. I kept writing my own plays, and utilising what was available to me. I still had Hollywood dreams, but I was majoring in a custom subject - Forensic Psychology - that I built from being on par with the graduate students, though a first-year - and my Physics minor became a background once I saw I'd taken all modern courses they had, which became Theatre, until I did all I want there, then Polysci (same), and Electronic Media and Film; but it was too new, and discontinued after the first semester. I settled in yet a new creation, cobbling together the remains of Criminal Justice. And I made Criminology. And I studied it for 2 years.

And I learnt that science was all I had against violence and the unknown. My experiences as a field investigator and profiler would combine to create a very sceptical, debunking, cynical person.

I couldn't stay away from astrology, either, though. Or singing (which I picked back up at age 24, where I became known as 'The Belle of Chili's' for my terrible habit of singing in the breezeway whilst cleaning the glass doors. I was a dining host. Meagre job, and I was broke with an abusive psychopath who refused to get a job - but mostly shared rent. I was dreaming of more, they'd say. They threw quite the party when I announced I was moving to LA. My old boss, the regional hospitality director, still keeps up with me, a stern, but grandmotherly sort, who says she's very proud. Might just be glad the spontaneous musical numbers finally ceased. 😉

I took astrology back up at age 14, and wrote the first ever pamphlet on delineating the Antivertex. (Yep, that was me.) 'The Vertices: A Karmic Axis', I called it.

That point meant something to me. So little had been written up about it, and nothing on the AVX. I mean, this was 1994. I was blessed to be taught by the most successful pro astrologers on the planet, and these curious aunties and uncles of the cosmic science were eager to welcome a young one into the fold.

From 1994 until 1998, I was the only one under 20 practising astrology. Under 18, even. In 1999, finally, finally! another young woman had registred. From then until ... ? It was just us.

No such thing as Lindaland. I was so lonely! The Internet was a vast wasteland when it came to astrological anything. So, I bought books. Ohhhh, so many books. I must have $5K worth of astrological books.

And yet, I am only an egg.

Astrology fascinated me for several reasons. One, this maths moron took to it with uncharacteristic ease. Two, I was comforted by some form of divination having so many calculations. (I had Solar Fire, but not until 1996. Before that? All by hand. And I swore by Porphyry. I now have no idea why! Heh.) My home school maths teacher even let me do midpoint trees to practise algaebra. She'd figured I hated the pointlessness of busy work. If I was actually calculating midpoint trees - no longer without purpose! Smart woman. Taught me meteorology, too.

God, why's this so long?

I suppose I'm saying, I live in a state of constant cognitive dissonance. My mother is always there to offer reassurance, but I live the day-to-day with a man who secretly and deeply (and sometimes not-so-secretly) wishes I'd devote my life to being a housewife. And I'd be happy.

And why bloody not? Counsel on my own hours, write when I'm able, shoot when I can.

When I was sobbing in the near-dark with some poor billing rep from the power company, pleading that she send the technician NOW, not hours from now, not tomorrow, NOW, because for some reason, I was lost in some terrible flashback, I'd paid the money my boyfriend refused to and had left me to be alone in the dark because he didn't want to be somewhere without power, I would have given anything to have the life I have now. To be anywhere near as blessed.

Instead, I long for the wise young girl collecting paper stardust into her hands and discarding the remnants of her childhood dreams.

Instead, I'm so much radio chatter broadcasting off-frequency, stuck between stations. I'm cosmic noise. I'm bits and pieces of nonsense. I'm incoherent. I'm untethered.

I'm floating out in space.

Valentine's, during that bloody Full Moon on ATLANTIS-REGULUS, when it really started, my husband attempted to be so wonderfully comforting. It was amazing. (That's variable, you see. I wasn't expecting him to react with such sympathy to my mad rambling. I thought he'd chuff and roll his eyes and tell me to be rational or something.)

But he just held me, and went through this exercise. (I picked up on what it was quickly, but went along. It's an inundation measure. He thought I was feeling overwhelmed.)

He said to envision me. Just me. Floating out in space. Then he'd add things. Him, my stepdaughter, my lover, and he was getting to Fate, but then ... I had to confess. I started crying. Bawling, in fact.

'I wasn't honest with you,' I said. When he'd told me to envision myself alone - I couldn't.

He was there.

Imagining me, as JUST me, JUST this tiny point of light in the cosmos - I can't. The feeling, the sense, the 'knowledge' that 'he's here' overwhelmed me.

And so I cried. Hard. I apologised.

I said I was such a mess.
I said I was so scared.
I said it isn't true.
I said, I can't handle this.

What perplexes me most is how strangely accepting and reassuring he is in regards to him when I'm not. Despite the fact he believes in nothing, oh, no, Fate and I, we're fated.

What?

No.

Just - no.

Like I said in 2012; I'm not going anywhere. Whether he is or not - I'm not going anywhere. I made a commitment. I'm obligated. Thick and thin. I'm staying here. Ill-conceived, but no less true. I love him. He felt like home.

Now ... he feels like ....

NOTHING feels like home.

Nothing.

I have this strange notion of being so grateful to be here on the Earth before it becomes enveloped by the Sun. That I was able to come back. Crying in gratitude. Moved to tears.

Then I ask, where the HELL is THIS from?

Ugh! So many tears lately!

Here is where I feel I need to be. That I should be. Do the work. Get it done. Keep going.

But feeling settled? Home? Overwhelmed with the notion of 'nowhere else I'd rather be'? Swept away by love and passion? Filled with joy and enthusiasm?

No. Instead, it's this bloody searching. This unanchored, uprooted sense of belonging nowhere to nothing.

Fate and I, much as we hate to admit it, make each other dreamers. On the Titanic, we're brave adventurers off to discover a new world; the rumblings of the ship splitting in two are nothing more than the roar of a great sea monster fathoms below. On the Hindenburg, we're space pirates, sailing the stormy heavens, on the hunt for new vistas, undiscovered stars.

We don't see we're drowning, or burning alive. We see dragons - not clouds. We see what CAN be. Not what IS.

Together, we're an unstoppable force of imagination, banishing the everyday by way of a powerful escapism. There, we can be together, so long as we defeat the evil and save the world and rescue ourselves and our friends. Easy. Hero's Journey. Writing 102.

But the real world intervenes. It has to. Because we're scientists. We're realists. We're pragmatic and sensible.

And we hate it.

Because, together, we're infinite.

And apart, we're real.

After tasting infinity, reality no longer measures up. It's a pale comparison to the imagination, the wonder, the fantasy of the ever-possible.

Being an amateur physicist, I'm not sure if I comfort or bewildre or delude myself with the strange knowledge of transdimensional reality and hyper-universes.

The odd knowing that, in some, actually, several, eigenstates, we met at that airport that day, and, likely married during our first of three marriage years (all of which coincide) during our lifetimes, in 2010 - does that free me?

There, are we living in Sedona, producing the series with my oldest soul-brother (30 years) - and making the plan to move to LA? Would I stumble into my husband and lover and be overwhelmed by what I didn't do here?

And I happy? Displaced? Confused?

Ugh. 'Ms Destiny', I suppose. Pick one to observe; you can't observe them all.

If that's the case, am I the close-but-no-cigar me?

Was Other-Me-There born a day later, with a SAG MOON that conjoins his SUN? Or on 26 October as I was expected, with a GEM MOON and early SCO SUN?

Is THAT me his Twinflame, and I'm some bizarre cosmic runoff which shouldn't have awakened?

Unfortunately, 'The Adjustment Bureau' lies. Pleading isn't going to change your destiny. Lovely notion, just love enough. I don't think it's true.

Is the eigenstate I'm living the product of a cosmic error?

Was I not supposed to feel this HERE? Am I simply too close to, to enthralled by, too longing to integrate 'all of me' across extradimensional spacetime that I manifested that which is only operational and plausible in another eigenstate?

ARE you married to Jude, Ceri? And Mr Sag in another?

ARE you with Jace now, Michelle?

ARE you and your Virgo presently creating art together, Lavender? And then you're to do so here, too? But why, I wonder ....

DID you and CUSP come together years ago, tgem?

Are we just not aware of the 'adjustments' made to the eigenstate we're observing, so that we're confusing ourselves?

It's scientifically plausible, you know.

Should this Me, LA-married-with-stepdaughter-Me have never awakened to this? Never contacted him in 2011? Never tried to reanimate LACHESIS?

But then I would've left my abusive ex and gotten with my husband in 2004. I'd have never met Fate.

But, if LACHESIS is part of what I'm here to do, I need him. He's essential. We do this together.

But what does that mean? Together?

Maybe the rest of it is satisfied in other eigenstates. Where we're just doing the awakened spiritual thing - IF that's what this is. Big if.

But why feel this way?

Why take both of us by storm? Uproot our foundations and shake up our lives like a demented child with a snow globe?

Ohhh, damn you, City of Angels. It's a line which comes to me sometimes. A lot lately. That film REALLY affected me. Oh, I was obsessed with it.

It's Ryan's character, the doctor, Maggie Rice, to Cage's, Seth.

'I don't understand a God who would let us meet, if there's no way we could ever be together.'

That one.

I have no answer, but I think it. A LOT.

And drawing only minor satisfaction from 'well, in another eigenstate, we're achieving what it is we came here to do.'

... Yay?

I want to be the mature, assured, wise woman who can see that as enough.

Instead, I don't know what I am.

Besides, blathering. I'm definitely that.

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Long post was very long, and evidently posted above.

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Indigo,

Sorry you are having such a tough time. Hope you feel better soon.

I see you mentioned the SGC again to someone else. What are you thinking is at/near 16 Sag? It's not the SGC, unless you mean something other than Super Galactic Center. The SGC is at 1/2 Libra.


:facepalm: Right. I get it and the GA confused. Mea culpa. Yes, I meant the Great Attractor.

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