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posted March 03, 2014 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since we're posting songs, this is one I'd shared not that long ago on another (TF/SM) forum, and I think it'd be fitting here too...:

Performed by Nick Cave
(Originally written and produced for the film "Winged Migration"...)
To Be By Your Side

Across the oceans Across the seas, Over forests of blackened trees.
Through valleys so still we dare not breathe, To be by your side.

Over the shifting desert plains, Across mountains all in flames.
Through howling winds and driving rains, To be by your side.

Every mile and every year for every one a little tear.
I cannot explain this, Dear, I will not even try.

Into the night as the stars collide,
Across the borders that divide, Forests of stone standing petrified,
To be by your side.

Every mile and every year, For every one a single tear.
I cannot explain this, Dear, I will not even try.

For I know one thing, Love comes on a wing.
For tonight I will be by your side. But tomorrow I will fly.

From the deepest ocean To the highest peak,
Through the frontiers of your sleep.
Into the valley where we dare not speak, To be by your side.

Across the endless wilderness where all the beasts bow down their heads.
Darling I will never rest till I am by your side.

Every mile and every year, Time and Distance disappear I cannot explain this.
Dear No, I will not even try.

For I know one thing, Love comes on a wing and tonight I will be by your side.
But tomorrow I will fly away, Love rises with the day and tonight I may be by your side.
But tomorrow I will fly, Tomorrow I will fly, Tomorrow I will fly.

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posted March 03, 2014 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nvm

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posted March 04, 2014 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for micole maree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MorpHnStorM

That is a lovely song. Thanks for sharing.

I've got quite the playlist going on YouTube, thanks to all of you.

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posted March 04, 2014 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for micole maree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indigo, what are the marriage aspects to which you referred earlier? Are they too complex for a beginner?

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posted March 04, 2014 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for micole maree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri,

I'm sorry you felt unwell but happy you still got to go. I'm not crazy about having to exit a crowded row of seats during a performance either, but I think it's a bigger deal for me when it happens than it is for anybody else. (I hate having all eyes upon me, for any reason.)

And I'd say all indications are there that he remembers you.

Along the lines of "Everything happens for a reason", even your feeling unwell and having to leave seems significant. The Universe made SURE his attention was drawn to you.

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posted March 04, 2014 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for micole maree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
@Michelle
"Tgem, what was the favorite saying of yours connected with your son's illness and miraculous healing? I'd love to know."

"Even the best doctors in the world are not GOD."


Tgem, I thought that might be it but wanted to make sure.

A good illustration of what we're trying to "make sense" of here. Things unfold in their own time. Miracles happen. Sometimes it is less painful and works better if we just turn things over and surrender to what is and what will be.

Easier said than done, by the way...

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quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
LOL
Thanks, yes I hope I am not just another fan. But you never know what he thinks, right?


Why do you care so much Ceridwen?

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posted March 04, 2014 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
@ Indigo and anyone else suffering right now...

The words "letting go" have been coming up again and again in the last couple of pages, and this really is what needs to happen. It needs to happen, and it will happen...Reaching that state of surrender; releasing those attachments and the expectations, having Faith, [b]Trusting (the other word that's been mentioned, letting go and letting that love flow. You let go of those attachments, those ideas/expectations you have, and you let go of the pain/the emotions. When you do this, the love can flow freely and you'll get the peace and clarity (spiritual and otherwise) you're so desperately seeking...And, you can effectively heal and continue your spiritual growth...Again, you cannot have affective communication with spirit as long as you've got all these emotions blocking you. It's good for you to get these emotions out, to move through them; it is a sort of grieving process. But, you cannot get stuck...You can't continue to wallow in them...

I want to add, that "Letting go" (and moving on) does not mean "giving up" and "forgetting about", or "cutting off", when it comes to the love/bond/union you share with the other, particularly if the reason for doing so is because you can't have the other the way you want them (because that's not truly letting go, unless it's an unhealthy/toxic connection we're talking about...then it's a bit different...). That energy/connection will always be there no matter what, and is entirely separate from any ideas/expectations you may have with regards to relationships (or whatever)...It's not going anywhere...It truly is unbreakable...

Easier said than done, I know, but it will happen...You'll get there. You have so much more to live for, and so much more to share with this world...

With Love...

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I just saw the last couple of posts, and it seems Indigo and Ceridwen have already (basically_ said this

Fashionably late, as usual...[/B]


I love that post. :tumbsup:

I very much agree with it. And yes, there is the distinction between "letting go" and "going away".

I have already been there, letting go of expectations, but somehow they keep creeping back in. I suppose it is just human.


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posted March 04, 2014 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by micole maree:
Ceri,

I'm sorry you felt unwell but happy you still got to go. I'm not crazy about having to exit a crowded row of seats during a performance either, but I think it's a bigger deal for me when it happens than it is for anybody else. (I hate having all eyes upon me, for any reason.)

And I'd say all indications are there that he remembers you.

Along the lines of "Everything happens for a reason", even your feeling unwell and having to leave seems significant. The Universe made SURE his attention was drawn to you.



Thank you.
And I agree with you. Everthing happens for a reason, and yes I got his attention I think.
And maybe he does remember me.

I just donīt want to get all delusional here.

But bottom line really is I am looking forward seeing him again on stage or off stage, doesn`t really matter at this point.

I donīt expect anyone to understand that. I can`t hardly understand it myself. But it is what it is. Seeing him energizes me, almost like my batteries get uploaded.

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posted March 04, 2014 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerlite:
Why do you care so much Ceridwen?


Your question confuses me.
Of course I care.

I like him, and of course I want to be "special" to him, standing out from the crowd. I think that is pretty normal, ordinary.
Doesn`t mean I get what I want. I am pretty aware of that.
but even acknowledging that I WANT this, is quite a step for me.


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quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Your question confuses me.
Of course I care.

I like him, and of course I want to be "special" to him, standing out from the crowd. I think that is pretty normal, ordinary.
Doesn`t mean I get what I want. I am pretty aware of that.
but even acknowledging that I WANT this, is quite a step for me.


There's nothing wrong with acknowledging what you want. And noone's judging you for that. But what's really holding back from talking to him? Nothing but yourself...the ego, the lower mind. Telling him his art is great would mean a lot to him...i feel.

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posted March 04, 2014 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I did.

Maybe not this time, but last time I did. Though thinking about it, I might have been a little vague and it could have been related to the whole crew, instead of singling him out. LOL
Even if I do make a compliment I manage to stay evasise, I suppose. (and rather critical, maybe I should NOT have mentioned that I had been pondering if I should go there at all, with all the organisational chaos that had been surrounding this production, and maybe admitting that I certainly did NOT regret giving them the benefit of doubt and going thre anyway, and enjoying what they made of it, was not really that flattering after all. *sighs* But I did say I enjoyed it quite much, so that was alright. But I admit it might not have been that personal).

Yeah, gotta change that routine, you are right.

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posted March 04, 2014 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Indigo,

that is so unbelievably hard. I find it interesting though that this "hit" us at approximately the same time.

Maybe it DOES have something to do with Mars retro.

Actually just like Venus has been moving forth and back over our composit Venus on 16 Cap, now Mars seems to do the same (our c-Mars is at 23 Libra). *sighs*

I donīt know what to say to comfort you, as I feel it wouldn`t do the pain you feel justice and somehow downplay it. And I don`t want that.
this pain is very real, but in a way it also shows you just how MUCH you care and how deeply you feel.
Maybe this will be a good thing to know once the sting has softened a little.


I thought about that, too. The very reason why he'd concoct stories of sleeping with someone was purely to rile me. He'd even tell me that! I remember saying to him, 'you DO realise that's not normal, right? People don't DO that to each other?' He felt in some way he was justified. But mostly, 'it gets you to respond, doesn't it?' Bloody hell!

So, rile me it did, but I played it off. Something about how while it sounded like a rather sexy overnighter, I was most inclined to think it involved dice rolling and dragon slaying.

I'm terrible.

It DOES make me take stock, though. I can get so Vulcan, I forget to feel. Ohhhh, he knows just how to short-circuit THAT.

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posted March 05, 2014 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury retro is over.

Considering how slow the thread has become, i suppose the time for introspection is over and it is time to move forwards again.


Or in other words:
where are you all?


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posted March 05, 2014 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for micole maree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mercury retro is over.

Considering how slow the thread has become, i suppose the time for introspection is over and it is time to move forwards again.


Or in other words:
where are you all?


Cracking up, Ceri.

I'm here. I've been feeling really off, physically, and resisting writing more of the "story" although I do feel some drive to get it done and out of me, so to speak.

I've also been watching some of Mel and Nichole's YouTube videos (which used to just not resonate in the past) and reading some Twin Flame blogs. And getting clear that getting attached to the outcome of this experience is not where I need to be. Yeah, I want it to work out. But I've got to let go - AGAIN - and let Destiny do its thing. Meanwhile, I'VE got work to do on me. Plenty of it.

Do you think Mercury retro had a lot to do with us sharing so much here? I guess I assumed it would do the opposite. Or that the communication would be really mucked up. It doesn't seem to have been that at all.

I've been thinking about all of you. All of US really. And sending good thoughts.


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posted March 05, 2014 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here I am! Just now trying to catch up and process everything that's been written. I'm guilty as charged- becoming attached to a certain outcome...ugh- it's so hard not to when certain feelings are so strong. But alas....I KNOW that's what I need to do. Let destiny run it's course.

I like what Morph said, "the bond/connection will always be there..no matter what." That's comforting...somewhat

Maybe if I wasn't such a romantic at heart!! That's my problem I've decided...way too much neptune in my chart!!!

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posted March 05, 2014 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

This is BLOODY BRILLIANT


this morning I wanted to check his age harmonics for this year, and for some reason astro.com ALWAYS puts into my charts ARTHUR, GUINEVERE and LANCELOT (even if I donīt type a number into the box, it is already there).


so I was that this year in his Age Harmonics he has:

ARTHUR 7°13 Scorpio
GUINEVERE 7°24 Scorpio.

CONJUNCt!
And did you see how exact?


it makes me go because he is just in the process of the last rehearsals for the musical Excalibur, in which he is going to play Arthur, as I repeatedly mentioned I fear. lol

And from what I read it seems that they were tweaking the storyline a little, and it seems like the great love story will be actually between Arthur and Guinevere, not Guinevere and Lancelot (Lancelot seems to be more some kind of affair, but I donīt know yet, we will see, well I like it, I prefer Arthur anyway. )


His Age Harmonic LANCELOT is on 5.47 Gemini, very widely quinkunx (I usually stick to a 1 degree orb for Age Harmonics, 2 degrees for angles and Moon).

His Age Harmonic GINEVRA on 25.24 Gemini (yes I know, Orion, yadda, yadda-da)

opposing his Age Harmonic CAMELOT on 24.18 Sag, near to Age harmonic Chiron on 26.21 Sagittarius

BTW his MERLIN and EXCALIBUR are also conjunct on 21.51 Libra and 23.22 Libra
right on his natal Pluto on 21.23 Libra.
And near his natal LANCELOT on 23.07 Libra


Arthurian times indeed.

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posted March 05, 2014 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by micole maree:
Cracking up, Ceri.

I'm here. I've been feeling really off, physically, and resisting writing more of the "story" although I do feel some drive to get it done and out of me, so to speak.

I've also been watching some of Mel and Nichole's YouTube videos (which used to just not resonate in the past) and reading some Twin Flame blogs. And getting clear that getting attached to the outcome of this experience is not where I need to be. Yeah, I want it to work out. But I've got to let go - AGAIN - and let Destiny do its thing. Meanwhile, I'VE got work to do on me. Plenty of it.

Do you think Mercury retro had a lot to do with us sharing so much here? I guess I assumed it would do the opposite. Or that the communication would be really mucked up. It doesn't seem to have been that at all.

I've been thinking about all of you. All of US really. And sending good thoughts.


I am sorry to hear that you`ve felt off.

but time to get back at the writing board, I crave hearing more stories. I feel it might also be part of some cathartic process.

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posted March 05, 2014 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interestingly as of now (I mean this moment), I donīt quite feel that attached to any outcome (oh it will come back, i am sure of that).
I am just happy I got to see him. as I said it energizes me.

Ugh, I just could do without bolting awake every night because I FEEL him sitting on the edge of my bed, right to how it feels if the mattrass is sinking in a little. And always at strange times.

Last night it was 3:33 a.m..

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Interestingly as of now (I mean this moment), I donīt quite feel that attached to any outcome (oh it will come back, i am sure of that).
I am just happy I got to see him. as I said it energizes me.

Ugh, I just could do without bolting awake every night because I FEEL him sitting on the edge of my bed, right to how it feels if the mattrass is sinking in a little. And always at strange times.

Last night it was 3:33 a.m..


Interesting...I was visited by a spirit in the middle of the night too...super early..like 3 AM! They were pulling the blanket on my bed...and I swear they made a sound this time which shot me up...I don't ever hear voices...but last night I did...transits??

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Maybe it's Saturn Retrograde.

I looked up the Christian asteroids after reading Jesus and Mary are TFs. Found Jessie-Mary in helio synastry.

Was looking at Ishtar. Who's her partner and is Gilgamesh linked to her?

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posted March 05, 2014 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Adonis is Ishtar`s partner (Tammuz-Adonis actually)

Yes, I think there was a connection to Gilgamesh, she tried to seduce Gilgamesh, but he declined reasoning her affections were too fickle. She didn`t take it well though.


Nah for me my experience doesn`t ahve to do with Saturn REtro.

Mary-Jesse is a HUGE pairing for Mr Sag and me throughout the charts, yes.

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posted March 05, 2014 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in each of our natals:

mine
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tropical:
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°MARIA on 17.3 Leo opposite Moon on 17.0 Aquarius

° MARIA on 17.3 Leo sextile YESHUA on 15.3 Libra

° YESHUA on 15.3 Libra trine KARMA on 16 Gemini and square Saturn on 16.5 Cancer

° JESSE on 9.2 Scorpio conjunct MARY on 10.5 Scorpio

Draconic
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Dr VERTEX on 11.1 Scorpio conjunct tropical JESSE/ MARY

Dr MARIA on 7.2 Sag conjunct ASC on 7.0 Sag and ANGEL on 7.3 Sag

Dr MAGDALENA on 21.2 Cap conjunct Sun/Moon-mp on 21.3 Cap (and ARTHUR), also conjunct AVX on 1.2 Cap

Dr Sun on 15.4 Aries opp. YSHUA on 15.3 Libra

helio
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helio MARY on 21 Libra conj. helio JESSE on 19.4 Libra

helio YESHUA on 27.4 Virgo sextile helio MARIA on 28.4 Cancer

helio MARY/JESSE conj. tr DNA on 20 Libra
helio MARY/JESSE opp. tr Chiron on 20 Aries

helio DNA conjunct tr MAGDALENA on 1 Libra

his natal
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tropical
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JESSE on 28 Pisces conjunct ASC on 25 Pisces
(on antiscion of MARY on 3 Aries)

YESHUA on 25 Virgo conjunct DESC on 25 Virgo, conjunct Saturn on 26 Virgo

MARY trine MAGDALENA On 3 Leo

MARY on 3 Aries opposite KARMA on 3 Libra

MARIA on 11 Sco opposite CHIRON on 9 Taurus


Draconic:
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Dr MAGDALENA on 1 Pisces conjunct SN on 1 Pisces

heliocentric
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Helio MARIA conjunct Helio ANGEL, both on 24 Libra

Helio MARIA On 24 Libra opposite Helio JESSE on 22 Aries


Helio Valentine conjunct tropical Maria

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synastry
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tropical
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his MARY conjunct my IC (1)
his JESSE trine my VALENTINE (1)
his MARIA conjunct my JESSE (2)
his MARIA conjunct my MARY (1)

his KARMA conjunct my MAGDALENA (2)
his MARY opposite my MAGDALENA (1)

Draco - Draco
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his YESHUA conjunct my Venus (1)

his MAGDALENA on 1 Pisces and his SN on 1 Pisces conjunct my JESSE on 29 Aquarius and MARY on 00 Pisces
(seeing this one breaks my heart a little everytime)

his MARIA conjuncts my Moon (3) on my tropical SN (0) and tr DSC (1)


my YESHUA on 5 Aqua opposes his tropical MAGDALENA On 3 Leo

my MARIA conjunct his Chiron (1)


heliocentric
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his helio JESSE conjunct my helio Chiron on 22 Aries exact

my helio JESSE/MARY on 21 and 19 Libra, opposite his helio JESSE, and conjunct his helio Pluto on 19 Libra


my helio MAGDALENA conj. his helio KARMA (1)

my helio MARIA conjunct his helio AMOR on 28 Cancer exact

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interesting tidbit

his helio VALENTINE on 8 Scorpio conjuncts my helio AMOR on 10 Scorpio, and this falls onto my tropical JESSE/MARY and his tropical MARIA.


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oh btw

my tropical Chiron (20 Aries - also our composite SN) conjuncts his helio JESSE (22 Aries) and opposes my helio JESSE/MARY-conjunction


his tropical Chiron (9 Taurus) opposes his tropical MARIA On my tropical JESSE/MARY, but of course also aligns with the VALENTINE-AMOR-conjunction in helio

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