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IndigoDirae
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posted March 09, 2014 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
Did he (IQ) actually write these words, in this way?

While I'm truncating, those are mostly complete sentences, if taken from separate paragraphs.

It's:

'You both are Twin Flames; the relationship goes beyond a relationship and becomes a journey of convergence.'

And thus:

'You both need to be together. There is no specific mission or purpose for this, the togetherness is to be seen as a trait.'

To illustrate, he used sodium chloride as a means of metaphor for the bond:

'Nobody asks sodium and chlorine about their mission to form the ultimate ionic bond, sodium chloride.'

And:

'Thus, by not being together, you both could be denying something to perhaps millions of people.'

Man. What the hell do I do?

I was in session an hour ago, and thinking, how badly we've hurt each other. And yet, THIS is what we're supposedly here for?

It's pretty heavy. And heady.

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posted March 09, 2014 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Lavender,

This was posted from iQ on 24 December 2011. That was a REALLY significant turning point for me - that whole Christmastime.

from iQ:

'For research, I feel Alfred Hitchcock and his wife Alma were Twin Flames.

From Wiki:

"Alfred's final short story piece, Fedora (1921), was his shortest and most enigmatic contribution. It also gave a strikingly accurate description of his future wife, Alma (whom he had not met yet) ".
They were married for 54 years, till death intervened.

Alfred: 13 August 1899.
Alma : 14 August 1899.

I did not need to do the Synastry

13+14 = 27, 27 x 2 = 54, the number of years of their marriage.

1+8+9+9 = 27.

And "ALMA" = 9 in Chaldean Numerology.

Alma's death: 6th-July-1982. Total = 33.
Alfred's death: 29-April-1980. Total = 33.

Only a brain dead person would consider this to be a coincidence.

I wish we had their exact their birth times!!!'

Okay. You know what I'm going to say. But just breathe for a second and look at it.

You guys are both artists; you're going to contribute creatively. They were Leo Suns with Suns nearly the same degree.

There's a sequential progression. Leo naturally ingresses into Virgo.

Her name was ALMA.

Do your given names begin with the same letter? (I've seen this happen a few places.)

Are your Life Path / Destiny / Soul Urge, blah-di-blah numbers Master Numbers?

Do you, or he, have any connexion to those two?

It stands VERY oddly to logical reason to me that two Twin Flames who are meant to 'marry and take care of each other' would be continuing a previous relationship in which they did the same thing?

It sounds kooky, but we're already in BIZARRE territory, so just go with me down the rabbit-hole.

Is there an ALFRED? I know there's an ALMA. Are they involved with your KARMA or 12H? Composite? Helio? Help me out here.


Thank you for sharing.
I think I remember seeing that post before, very interesting info!

As for the numerology, I am a lifepath 33, he is a 1.
Nothing really interesting there lol, but we were born on the same day: September 1st.
So 09/01 and 09/01 each form 1 and 1.

The numbers derived from both of our birth names are also the same, with the last two numbers flipped lol

My Destiny: 9
My Soul Urge: 5
My Inner Dream: 22

His Destiny: 9
His Soul Urge: 22
His Inner Dream: 5


Oh and BTW, that's not all iQ told me, I only summarized it.
He did say we have a lot to overcome, due to some of our potentially dangerous aspects.
We are meant to deeply effect and transform one another, as well as break cultural programming/barriers for our love.
He said it would be a huge risk not to marry, and it makes a lot of sense to me why...
It would allow us to take the step to do the unthinkable, the impossible, the taboo.
It would allow us to step outside of the convention ways and shake up old beliefs (well, his family is very open-minded, but it is mine that needs to wake up and let go of their primitive, backwards thinking).

The type of culture/religion I was born into is very umm strict and extremist.
Their views are very narrow regarding a lot of things...
Marrying outside that religion (even race) is out of question and considered a BIG no-no, even up to the point of killing.
Very messed up and barbaric, I know.

No wonder iQ said it may be dangerous and harmful if we are not careful...

Besides, who said that high level soul connections cannot form a lasting bond and not take care of one another? Each set is unique in their own ways right?
But maybe this is a part of our purpose too (along with art/healing), as I stated above—it would break the traditional dogmas, the old patterns, and perhaps even pave the way for future lovers of diverse cultures/religions to get together and not give up on their love...

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posted March 09, 2014 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
While I'm truncating, those are mostly complete sentences, if taken from separate paragraphs.

It's:

'You both are Twin Flames; the relationship goes beyond a relationship and becomes a journey of convergence.'

And thus:

'You both need to be together. There is no specific mission or purpose for this, the togetherness is to be seen as a trait.'

To illustrate, he used sodium chloride as a means of metaphor for the bond:

'Nobody asks sodium and chlorine about their mission to form the ultimate ionic bond, sodium chloride.'

And:

'Thus, by not being together, you both could be denying something to perhaps millions of people.'

Man. What the hell do I do?

I was in session an hour ago, and thinking, how badly we've hurt each other. And yet, THIS is what we're supposedly here for?

It's pretty heavy. And heady.


Interesting...

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posted March 09, 2014 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

Is there an ALFRED? I know there's an ALMA. Are they involved with your KARMA or 12H? Composite? Helio? Help me out here.

My Alma conjunct his Karma 3°
My Alfreda sextile his Karma 2°
His Alfreda trine my Karma 2°
His Alma square my 12th house ruler (Moon) 1°

Trop–Composite Alfreda in 12th house
Trop–Composite Alfreda conjunct Moon 2° (comp. 12th house ruler)
Trop–Composite Alfreda quincunx Karma 0°


Helio composite Alma solstice–opposite Alfreda 0°
Helio composite Alma contra–parallel Alfreda 0°04

Helio composite Alma conjunct Pluto 0°
Helio composite Alfreda opposite Saturn 2°

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posted March 09, 2014 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Thank you for sharing.
I think I remember seeing that post before, very interesting info!

As for the numerology, I am a lifepath 33, he is a 1.
Nothing really interesting there lol, but we were born on the same day: September 1st.
So 09/01 and 09/01 each form 1 and 1.

The numbers derived from both of our birth names are also the same, with the last two numbers flipped lol

My Destiny: 9
My Soul Urge: 5
My Inner Dream: 22

His Destiny: 9
His Soul Urge: 22
His Inner Dream: 5


Oh and BTW, that's not all iQ told me, I only summarized it.
He did say we have a lot to overcome, due to some of our potentially dangerous aspects.
We are meant to deeply effect and transform one another, as well as break cultural programming/barriers for our love.
He said it would be a huge risk not to marry, and it makes a lot of sense to me why...
It would allow us to take the step to do the unthinkable, the impossible, the taboo.
It would allow us to step outside of the convention ways and shake up old beliefs (well, his family is very open-minded, but it is mine that needs to wake up and let go of their primitive, backwards thinking).

The type of culture/religion I was born into is very umm strict and extremist.
Their views are very narrow regarding a lot of things...
Marrying outside that religion (even race) is out of question and considered a BIG no-no, even up to the point of killing.
Very messed up and barbaric, I know.

No wonder iQ said it may be dangerous and harmful if we are not careful...

Besides, who said that high level soul connections cannot form a lasting bond and not take care of one another? Each set is unique in their own ways right?
But maybe this is a part of our purpose too (along with art/healing), as I stated above—it would break the traditional dogmas, the old patterns, and perhaps even pave the way for future lovers of diverse cultures/religions to get together and not give up on their love...


You're a 33? I'm a 22! Sweet! I was deciding I'd need a 33 in order to realise some great cosmic dream or some nonsense jazz.

Seriously, though. The 33 Master Number is extremely rare. It's the Master Teacher. 22 is the Master Builder.

I'm just learning all of that, but it's pretty fascinating - that we're both Master numbers.

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posted March 09, 2014 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
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My Destiny: 9
My Soul Urge: 5
My Inner Dream: 22

His Destiny: 9
His Soul Urge: 22
His Inner Dream: 5


Incidentally, his Life Path is 9, which is the same as my Destiny Number, and his Soul Urge. I thought that was quite cool. My Soul Urge is also 22. That jives as well.

Oh, wow. Our Life Path and Soul Urge numbers are the same. I just noticed that. 9 and 22. I wonder how common that is.

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posted March 09, 2014 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
Interesting...

Yeah. I'm not entirely sure what to do with that ('that' being what iQ said).

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posted March 09, 2014 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
My Alma conjunct his Karma 3°
My Alfreda sextile his Karma 2°
His Alfreda trine my Karma 2°
His Alma square my 12th house ruler (Moon) 1°

Trop–Composite Alfreda in 12th house
Trop–Composite Alfreda conjunct Moon 2° (comp. 12th house ruler)
Trop–Composite Alfreda quincunx Karma 0°


Helio composite Alma solstice–opposite Alfreda 0°
Helio composite Alma contra–parallel Alfreda 0°04

Helio composite Alma conjunct Pluto 0°
Helio composite Alfreda opposite Saturn 2°


AHA!

And you'll both be in Los Angeles, I'm guessing as well.

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posted March 09, 2014 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

Oh and BTW, that's not all iQ told me, I only summarized it.
He did say we have a lot to overcome, due to some of our potentially dangerous aspects.
We are meant to deeply effect and transform one another, as well as break cultural programming/barriers for our love.
He said it would be a huge risk not to marry, and it makes a lot of sense to me why...
It would allow us to take the step to do the unthinkable, the impossible, the taboo.
It would allow us to step outside of the convention ways and shake up old beliefs (well, his family is very open-minded, but it is mine that needs to wake up and let go of their primitive, backwards thinking).

The type of culture/religion I was born into is very umm strict and extremist.
Their views are very narrow regarding a lot of things...
Marrying outside that religion (even race) is out of question and considered a BIG no-no, even up to the point of killing.
Very messed up and barbaric, I know.

No wonder iQ said it may be dangerous and harmful if we are not careful...

Besides, who said that high level soul connections cannot form a lasting bond and not take care of one another? Each set is unique in their own ways right?
But maybe this is a part of our purpose too (along with art/healing), as I stated above—it would break the traditional dogmas, the old patterns, and perhaps even pave the way for future lovers of diverse cultures/religions to get together and not give up on their love...


Sounds a lot like what my parents had to go through.

My grandmother was never able to marry my mother's biological father (huuuuge scandal there), and we sensed there was always a bit of resentment there, regarding the fact that my mother (Protestant) was able to marry my father (Catholic) WITHOUT a dispensation, in the early '70s.

Now that seems like nothing, but then ... it was huge. So much so that my gran, in the '40s, had no such luck.

Honestly, I have no idea why Fate and I are 'supposed' to or 'need' to be together, if it's not FOR something.

Wanna know something crazy?

We met in 2006, when he was 22. I swear, looking back at him in his early 20s, he looked quite different, and more like his mother's heritage then. Now, however, he's either ended up looking more like his father's, or that thing that happens where you start resembling each other more has been taking place. You wouldn't even know he's got the heritage he has NOW.

That was kind of flabbergasting to me, when I went through older photos. I'd never noticed it before because of how different he was looking after we met.

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the numerology link is really important.

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posted March 09, 2014 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerlite:
the numerology link is really important.


I'm learning, summerlite. What do you know about it? I was thinking so, too. Can't be coincidence we both have the same Life Path and Soul Urge numbers, and that my Destiny number is his Life Path. Not to mention mine being a Master number.

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posted March 09, 2014 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
Oooh I love this! This his how I feel. It's just so deeply and so infinitely satisfying on the soul level...and healing. Yes, so wonderful and so beautiful...that there are no words to describe it...

<Edit>

On another note, I was playing with the Vedic asteroids again and noticed we have an exact Samadhi-Kama opposition @ 7 Pisces-Virgo/11-5th in our t-composite (there's actually a G-Cross involving Pallas/2nd and Jupiter/8th)....His Samadhi and Kama are trine my Parvati, and squ. my Rudra in t-synastry. My Samadhi is on his Asc. I'm still logging all the aspects.

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Playing with Alfred-Alma:

His Alma opp my Alfred exact in t-synastry.


Morph,

thanks. I am glad what I wrote resonated.


Playing around with asteroids too:


We both have natally a conjunction of SAMADHI-ALFREDA; mine is on 6 and 8 Virgo, falling right onto my own asteroid LILTIH (6 Virgo) and HEKATE and RUDRA (8 Virgo).

It is sort of interestng, as Samadhi describes the state of true Yoga, that level of union and superconsciousness you can reach within deep meditation, and Hekate again is one who guides between the different dimensions/ realms. It seems to fit rather well.

For him SAMADHI and ALFREDA are both on 8 Sagittarius,c onjunct his KAALI on 6 Sag -

So for me it is connected to RUDRA, for him to KAALI - and ONCE again this pairing comes up AGAIN in our synastry.

Not only is his KAALI apparently square my RUDRA, but in helio composite there is a conjunction of RUDRA at 7 Virgo and KAALI at 8 Virgo, and thus falling right onto my Samadhi/Alfreda/Hekate/Rudra - so I suppose it is me who - in a state of meditation or hanging around between dimensions (Samadhi and Hekate)- easily connects with this helio pairing of ours, actually with the connection there, I probably do not have a choice but to experience this, if the portal is open, it is open and things get through. lol


However, my SAMHADI/Alfreda/RUDRA also conjuncts his AMOR on 9 Virgo; Jupiter and Mars are on 10 and 11 Virgo, a little far away,

BUT it is compelting a pretty close Grand trine of his AMOR (9 Virgo) and CHIRON (9 Taurus) and my ISIS/OSIRIS (8 CApricorn)

It is of course also conjunct his name in his chart and opposite his EROS on 8 Pisces and my name in his chart on 9 Pisces.


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His SAMADHI/ALFREDA/KAALI on 8 and 6 Sagittarius are conjunct my ASC, ANGEL and LUST on 7 Sag and my ATLANTIS on 8 Sag, and using 2 degree orb conjunct my Neptune/NN on 10 Sag.


It is also opposite his own SOMA on 7 Gemini, which naturally is very exactly conjunct my DESC.


my SOMA on the other hand is on 24 Scorpio, widely conjunct my own VALENTINE on 27 Scorpio in my 12th house, and conjuncts HIS 12th house ruler Uranus at 23 SCorpio.
Apart from that it is trine his ASC,
so we have a DW of SOMA-ASC.

While I know that Soma of course has its meaning in Vedic mythology, for me Soma is mainly connected with being the complement of Aura, like in the sense of "somatic", it is what you feel inside your body, if you listen deep.
In this context it is probably no surprise that I feel him so strongly, he always triggers a somatic response it seems. But of course it could also be due to his Kaali on my ASC, who knows?


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my ALMA on 6 ARies is conjunct my IC and AURA on 4 Aries and CHARIKLO and MAGION on 6 Aries.

It is part of a Grand trine with my ASC-Mars-Lust from 5-7 Sag and HYPNOS on 6 Leo, no surprise that so much happens during my sleep I suppose. lol

Actualy my Draco HYPNOS is conjunct my Valentine, figures I think.


Obviously that means that my ALMA (as well as my HYPNOS) are both trine his SAMADHI/ALFREDA/KAALI-conjunction, while inconjunct my own SAMHADI/ALFREDA/RUDRA-conjunction.


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my KAMA falls onto a significant point, 16 Libra, as it is trine my Moon on 17 Aqua, trine my KARMA On 16 Gemini, and squaring my Saturn on almost 17 Cancer. So it is configured with a lot of karmic objects. Oh and quinkunx my JUNO on 16 Pisces.

BTW my YESHUA is on 16 Libra as well.


Mr SAg doesn`t really resonate to these degrees too much; however he has got a KAMA-AURA-conjunction on 14 and 15 Pisces in hisc hart, which very obviously is conjunct my JUNO and inconjunct my KAMA.

More importantly, it ties into my Grand Trine in Water:

his AURA and KAMA on 14 and 15 Pisces.
my JUNO on 16 Pisces
my 3rd/ his 12th house


my Saturn on 16 Cancer
my 8th / his 5th house


my MOIRA and SIVA on 14 Scorpio
my LANCELOT on 16 Scorpio
my 11th / his 8th house (right on his cusp actually!)

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I also checked NADA, representing "flow" and "sound"

my NADA Is on 28 Leo exactly conjunct PARVATI natally - and falling right onto his true LILITH on 28 Leo, opposing my true LILITH (and conjunct my true PRIAPUS obviously) on 28 Aquarius/Leo, being generous with orb you could say it is also conjunct his NN on 1 Virgo (and it is not even overly generous I think ).

My Nada is also exactly trine his Moon and MC on 28 Sag and closely trines his Sun on 27 Sag


his NADA is on 10 Libra and conjunct my Pluto on 9 Libra and a bit more widely conjunct my APHRODITE on 13 Libra and loosely trine my KAALI on 12 Gemini. (but the orb is 2,5 degrees, which I usually would not count for a trine between asteroids - in this case however I found it interesting that:

1. natally he has Parvati conjunct his SN and I put my Parvati synastrically at his NN.

2. natally I have Kaali conjunct my SN and he puts his KAALi near my NN synastrically.

In both cases, my natal KAALI and his natal PARVATI are retrograde, I interprete that that even though we encountered these energies in the past already, we obviously have missed a part of the lesson, and so we gotta refresh it, learn it again, and somehow he presents an opportunity for me to learn about KAALI, while I apparently present an opportunity for him to learn about PARVATI.

3. and now, NADA is configured with these, my KAALI and his PARVATI synastrically?
It is probably not a coincidence. And NADA representing sound, and obviously he is a singer, I mean, it seems to be a vehicle to transfer the message almost, doesn`t it?

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posted March 09, 2014 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
You're a 33? I'm a 22! Sweet! I was deciding I'd need a 33 in order to realise some great cosmic dream or some nonsense jazz.

Seriously, though. The 33 Master Number is extremely rare. It's the Master Teacher. 22 is the Master Builder.

I'm just learning all of that, but it's pretty fascinating - that we're both Master numbers.



Not that rare apparently, I am a 33, too. My lifepath is (funnily Mr Law is a 33, too - I tend to stick to the 3-6-9 or 11-22 numbers for some reason. lol)

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

Honestly, I have no idea why Fate and I are 'supposed' to or 'need' to be together, if it's not FOR something.


Maybe you would be together for YOU, both of you.

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Originally posted by summerlite:
the numerology link is really important.


I think so, too. Yes

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Wow. Finally getting to this, and I'm glad I am.

First off, there's really something to his Aquarian smorgasbord. Not to mention, the panoply's all hitting my SNODE. (In the case of his VENUS/MARS and PSYCHE/EROS - 19° AQU - which is 1° conjunct my SNODE.)

Guess where his AURA and ANUBIS are? 5° and 29° respectively. Clearly a pattern here.

So, his VENUS/MARS (19°) and PSYCHE/EROS (19°) and AURA/ANUBIS (18°) are all conjunct, AND all on my SNODE @ 18° AQU 05.

They're also all trine my SUN (19° LIB 43).

Our SPIRIT are parallel; his is parallel my NNODE. My SPIRIT is on my BML (the true one), and parallel my SNODE.

AND ...

His SPIRIT opposes my PLUTO (2°).
My SPIRIT conjuncts his PLUTO (3°).

And this is the crowning touch, I think.

His ALMA: 08° LIB 37
His JUNO: 08° LIB 04

My ALMA: 03° LIB 37
My JUNO: 04° LIB 13

Now, I don't think they travel together, but I may be wrong. ALMA may be on that four-year-cycle. But still!

Intriguing AURA thing, too:

His AURA sextiles his SUN.
My AURA trines mine.

His AURA also parallels his EROS and PSYCHE, which are parallel my SNODE.

OH.

And ...

My ANUBIS: 23° ARI 17
His SPIRIT: 23° ARI 37

There's that. 😉

His ANUBIS sextiles his MOON.
My ANUBIS quincunxes mine.

In composite (Geo-Tropical) ...

Nothing angular happening there.

As expected, ALMA-JUNO are exactly conjunct on 6° LIB.

PSYCHE-AURA conjoin at 23° and 25° ARI, trining EROS-NEPTUNE on the GC (26° SAG). In fact, AURA and EROS are 0°05' trine.

ALMA-JUNO are 0°01' conjunct. (Wow.)

ANUBIS trines KARMA-DESTINN (0°64', 0°04').

SPIRIT parallels MOON and MERC (0°28') and VALENTINE (1°05).

One thing that IS interesting is how SPIRIT is widely conjunct his ASC (2°51') and my VX (2°31).

His AURA (29° AQU 38) is also widely conjunct the C-IC (01° PIS 22). That may be too wide, though.

So my AURA and his SPIRIT are conjunct the C-PSYCHE/AURA @ 2°. That's quite cool.

Not finding the angular aspects, though. Just a lot of interconnexions.

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posted March 09, 2014 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as for numerology, I am using Chaldean numerology (as IQ did it, too, and mentioned it in the quoted post).
http://www.sun-angel.com/numerology/nqmulti.php

Life path number:
mine: 33
his: 3


birthday:
mine: 9
his: 1

birtday and month:
mine: 3
his: 4

for the names: okay putting the Pythagorean in brackets

full names:

mine: 3 (7)
his: 5 (4)


first name:
mine: 22 (33)
his: 3 (33)


vowels:
mine: 9 (5)
his: 8 (7)

consonants:
mine: 3 (11)
his: 33 (33)


I read the Chaldaean ones are more esoteric/ spiritually oriented, and the pythagorean more personality-like/ worldly, don´t know if that is true.

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posted March 09, 2014 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indigo,


my Moon is conjunct your SN, I see (17 Aqua)


"Our SPIRIT are parallel; his is parallel my NNODE. My SPIRIT is on my BML (the true one), and parallel my SNODE."
Hm, interesting.


"His SPIRIT opposes my PLUTO (2°).
My SPIRIT conjuncts his PLUTO (3°)."
That sounds very transformative.

Actually we have a Spirit-Pluto-aspect natally as well (me the square, him the conjunction).

of course that means they are semisquare in the composite.

Do you have a square, conj. or opposition between Spirit and Pluto in the composite?

"As expected, ALMA-JUNO are exactly conjunct on 6° LIB."
This conjunction has gotten me thinking a little myself. We have the conjunction happening in helio composite, both on 29 TAurus conjunct Parvati on 00 Gemini - on the Pleiades obviously.


obiously that means they share a parallel natal angle in helio.

"ALMA-JUNO are 0°01' conjunct. (Wow.)"
Now that is precise!
And I thought ours was close (0°12)lol


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Well, it looks like 3 of us have now confirmed our TF's...a couple more outstanding. I read the excerpt IQ had written in the other Twinflames thread resurrected in 2.0 about the other symptoms other than the astrology? I wonder how many of those symptoms:
1. The state
2. Chakras opening
3. Multi-demensional awakening
4. Mole or spot on a finger? (That's kind of funny- like your branded to each other)
5. Falling ill after separating
Etc...

You confirmed TF's have witnessed?
How are we doing with our "TF validation" list?

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posted March 09, 2014 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not validated, no.

I never inquired about the possibility of him being my tf (BECAUSE I knew I really didn`t want to know probably. lol). It was IQ himself who brought up the subject. lol

Besides as much as I admire and respect IQ and it always leads me to new insights, reading something of him, noone, not even him, can confirm my TF, except myself. Though he might give a push to open up to thoughts into a certain direction.

Actually before Mr Sag he also had confirmed Jude as my twinflame, and another guy. Probably some sort of very close soulcluster going on there. lol
Also the first confirmation was years ago, and in the meantime IQ himself has modified some of his parameters concerning this, too.


However, as crazy as some of my experiences have been with others, too, noone beats Mr Sag in terms of crazy experiences. lol


"1. The state"
What do you mean by that?

"2. Chakras opening"
Yes. KUNDALINI RISING in capital letters.
After we first met I thought I was literally going crazy or dying. lol


Curiously, though by now of course I have gotten a little adapted to this, and it hasn`t been THAT strong like the first time aruond, last saturday though even though we did NOT talk to each other, I was experiencing this kind of electricity, almost as strong like after our first meeting, which I thought was a little weird. Why would it be that strong again after so many years?

"3. Multi-demensional awakening"
Avid visitor of the hypagnogic state now. Well always been, but I am more consciously doing it nowadays. Maybe it`S just fantasy though. lol


"4. Mole or spot on a finger? (That's kind of funny- like your branded to each "other)"


not that I know of.

"5. Falling ill after separating"
True for me.


Just after seeing him initially (and did not even become conscious of what was going on), I was falling ill but more so falling into deep depression, and suddenly frantically starting to wrap up all emotional residues from the past that were still blockin me (Tr Pluto was on my Sun as well).


I saw him 2 years later coincidentally, and the night after that, well, I suddenly was having a blind spot in my right eye, blood on my retina, which sounds worse than it is, it healted itself. But I jokingly was wondering: "What am I turning a blind eye to?"


After the real first meeting then, a few months later, I would suddenly have several bouts of Eye Migraine, which startled me quite a bit, but were harmless actually (however esoterically these are sometimes seen as symptoms of Kundalini Rising as well as opening of the chakras, especially third eye and crown-chakra, while your Ego is clinging to keep things closed - too much tension).

Over the next months, when I tried to turn back time, to return to how it was before, and stubbornly denying the impact he had on me, I would develop serious and persistent problems with my digestive system.

These only disappeared when I surrendered to the fact that there is no turning back this time.

And just last month I was suddenly feeling sick, without BEING sick; turned out that very day HE was being sick with a cold and needed to gather all the energy he could get to see through the show (of course he was working nevertheless, workaholic!).

Last saturday I was quite sick, as I mentioned, with dizziness and what else, and there was this moment when he was staring at me, and I am sure I got a little lsot in this moment, so canot really say for how long, but during it I felt like every cell of my being was being energized, and the dizziness just vaporized into nothing, and I have never felt stronger and more energizd before. It was almost like he had shared some of his energy with me.
Though maybe that, too, was just fantasy. LOL

No matter what it was, it felt pretty awesome.

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"'You both need to be together. There is no specific mission or purpose for this, the togetherness is to be seen as a trait.'"

I thought all TF's are supposed to come together for some kind of spiritual purpose? Isn't that the point?

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well looking up REIKI

My REIKI (also helio REIKI) is conjunct his tropical Moon-MC-Sun exactly (27 and 28 Sag)

Sabians:

An Old Bridge Over A Beautiful Stream Is Still In Constant Use

A Fat Boy Mowing The Lawn Of His House On An Elegant Suburban Street

his tropical REIKI is exactly conjunct my helio ISIS and helio SPIRIS, conjunct my helio OSIRIS by 2 degrees and conjunct his name in my tropical chart

Sabian
In A Hospital, The Children's Ward Is Filled With Toys

and for my helio Osiris
A Fire Worshipper Meditates On The Ultimate Realities Of Existence


Interestingly we have a DW in helio-tropical synastry

my tropical REIKI trine his helio OSIRIS
his tropical REIKI conjunct my helio ISIS-OSIRIS


Also natally we both have a quinkunx of REIKI and our own name in helio natal.


Maybe most interestingly though his helio REIKI conjuncts my helio VENUS on the same degree

Sabian:
A Hidden Choir Is Singing During A Religious Service


This is conjunct my tropical AVX and Sun/Moon-mp, and our tr composite Venus and Moon (on the exact midpoint actually)


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Originally posted by tgem:
"'You both need to be together. There is no specific mission or purpose for this, the togetherness is to be seen as a trait.'"

I thought all TF's are supposed to come together for some kind of spiritual purpose? Isn't that the point?


It is the point, depending what authors you read. Or not.

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Indigo,

could you share what made IQ come to this conclusion that you are tf`s who have to be together?

Was it something astrological, specifically?
Or something about your experiences together?

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quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
Alfreda= 1375
Alma=390

Cusp and my Helio synastry:
His Alfreda @ Aqu18'11 widely conjunct my alma @ Aqu23'01. (5 degrees)

In tropical synastry:
My Alfreda/venus conjunction in the 12th widely opposed his Alma by 6.5.

Tropical composite:
Alfreda sextile karma by 2
Alma trine Moira by 3

Helio composite:
Alma inconjunct Moira exact at 0.00
Alfreda inconjunct earth/moon by 30 minutes.

Also noticed that our Isis/Osiris conjunctions in both tropical and Draco Composite also happen to be opposite Alfreda exact...huh..


Sooo...upon further investigation, knowing our Alfreda/alma conjunction in helio synastry is very wide at 5 degrees, I looked for more to see if anything would strengthen this very wide conjunction...here's what I found:

In Helio synastry:
Valentine trine Alma DW at 0 and 1 degrees
Alma square Alma exact
My valentine opposite his union (1)
My Alfreda semi-sextile his Earth/moon exact
My Alma semi-sextile his Union exact

His Alfreda square my Earth/moon exact (just realized it's a DW)
His Alma trine my venus exact and conjunct my Isis exact
His Karma conjunct my Pallas (0), Vesta (3) and Osiris (0).

Also:
My valentine parallel his Isis/Osiris conjunction
My Karma parallel his Valentine
My Union parallel his Union

@Ceri- your tight orb concept has TOTALLY rubbed off on me too LOL...that's why seeing that very wide 5 degrees for a conjunction made me dig further to try to add some strength to that .

Guys what do you think??

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