posted March 09, 2014 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
@ Morph this is soooo weird!!! I just realized the connection as well! After I severed the relationship I feel extremely ill..feel into a deep deep depression. No amount of therapy or drugs or whatever was helping. Over that next two years my weight dramatically plummeted and I think I lost over 10 lbs. Coincidentally (or not so much) I had a feeling he was dealing with a significant amount of depression as well. I saw a recent picture of him on FB that he has lost AT LEAST 15 lbs.
wow! Yes, the digestive issues were huge...I couldn't eat for the longest time.

Tropical synastry:
His Ceres conjunct my IC and NN
My Ceres conjunct his sun

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Yeah, it is WEIRD.
It also really does seem to be the case that we end up looking alike...

Re. The Stare...it is looking right through to the soul (and at everything in between, good and bad). It is completely naked in that way...And, the love both seen and felt...the whole world lights up with that love...that warm and loving light, and the feeling of home.

He knows...He just knows...Everything...Me
I know...I just know...Everything...Him...
We just know...

^That goes beyond a stare, but that stare feels like this too. It's like this with no other.

There are times where this is all we've done (while having telepathic communication, flooded with at times)...Even when I'm not looking, I could/can feel it so intense when his eyes fell/fall on me...It is definitely a notable feature, and it's not to be confused with the goofy googly-eyes that would accompany a physical attraction/infatuation. Entirely different...

posted March 09, 2014 08:46 PM            

I think I might love this song, too.

Oh, I don't love you, but I always will.

I remember how floored we both were at the similarities to Lane and Fiona. We just never wanted to acknowledge that by definition that made them eerily like us, too.

posted March 09, 2014 08:49 PM            

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
Yep, again, there is a correlation here

I'm glad you brought up Nada, because we have a DW Nada-Kaali aspect in our t-synastry that I'd asked about when I first got into this forum. It 's My Kaali- His Nada conj. exact (with my Chiron <2 degrees away) one way, and Nada-Kaali opp. exact (with his Pholus <2 degrees way) the other...

Also, I got the same feeling as you did when I read "Soma"! This one also makes strong connections...

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We have Nada–Kaali as well, though not in a DW.

posted March 09, 2014 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Yep we are both tall and thin
I'm 5'11 and he's 6'2 ish
We both have broad shoulders
Both left handed
I could go on..

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posted March 09, 2014 09:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
We have Nada–Kaali as well, though not in a DW.

His Nada conjunct my Kaali (and Venus) 1°

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@ the aspects you and tgem posted

posted March 10, 2014 03:44 AM            

"I'm not familiar with the septiles, bi's and tri's. I don't even know what strength they have?"
that is the question.

However I think if they are exact (under one degree) and making a harmonic triangle,t hey are a pattern that might be stronger than an isolated wideorbed square or trine.
Especially since they resonate with midpoint pictures; they are representing an energetic system, in which the energy can flow, according to the nature of the aspect.

Of the minor aspects I keep an eye on the 5th, 7th, 8th and 9th harmonic.

The 5th (quintile-series) and 7th (septile-series), seem to be complementary, very unique aspects, but the 5th is more outgoing, outwardly expressive, brimming with energy, while the 7th is much more subtle and internalized.
However, the septile series seems to relate to spirit and fate quite a lot.

So the fact that Venus-Mars here is of the 7th harmonic, might make for a more spiritualized Venus-Mars-scenario, not weaker, just more subtle.
Like an undertow almost, a stream flowing just beneath full comprehension and consciousness.

our composite actually responds a lot to the 5th harmonic, featuring at least two distinct 5th harmonic patterns.

one being made up of Jupiter in Gemini in 5th house quintile Saturn in Leo in 7th, both biquintile Venus in Cap in 12th.

This naturally means that Venus is ON the Jupiter/Saturn-mp, and becomes the peak-point. Jupiter and Saturn representing the base, shooting their arrows at Venus. So that is where this is poured into or through.

The quintile pattern of course fits the Jupiter in Gemini in 5th house rather well, a more carefree, playful vibe being there. And Jupiter is where most of thje chart is answering to anyway (dispositors, actualyl it is a mutual reception of Mercury and Jupiter,w ith mercury and Jupiter ruling ALL sexual houses in the composite, which is just hilarious. lol)

The other quintile pattern is made up of Sun, Pluto and Juno. This one is distinctly more intense I suppose.

Sun in 11th quintile Pluto in 8th forming the base and pouring their energy (through the two biquintiles) into Juno in Taurus in 4th.

So we have Juno on the Sun/Pluto-midpoint. That union or connection vibrating with the intensity of Sun/Pluto but doing so in a rather zany quirky quintile kind of way.

BTW Juno is exactly opposite Valentine-Lust-Angel-DNA-conjunction in Scorpio, so that means of course that this quadruple powerhouse is on the Sun/Pluto-midpoint as well. As if a Valentine-Lust-conjunction in Scorpio needed any more resonating with Pluto! LOL

I suppose actually it would be good if that cuold be channelled creatively.

Interestingly that Valentine-Lust-Angel-DNA is falling onto my 12th house cusp and his 12th house ruler Uranus, along with his ODYSSEUS on my PENELOPE around 21 Scorpio (opposing my own Odysseus).

I suppose we have been down that route before. LOL

" That's why I think you need to talk with mr. Sag... "
Well, I have talked to him, now and then.
But as it is now, all I can really be is part of the audience, I think.
That is a serious block right there. it`s not like we are coworker and could just go out for a coffee casually.
Any contact in the realm of his shows, him the performer, me the audience, contains this barrier.
Which is what makes it easy and not easy at all at the same time.

However, I am pretty sure there will be talking again in the nearer future.

"so it hasn't been confirmed by IQ that Cusp and Mr. Sag are our TF's but each and everyday, I feel like I already know they are...."
Yes, these experiences are smething. Interestingly usually after I have seen Mr Sag on stage, after coming down from that high, I usually can feel whatever portal there is, is being closed, numbed down, like I (or maybe both) need to find back to the Status Quo, and just go on like it was before.
Usually that means I canīt sense or feel him AT ALL, for a few days, sometimes weeks, if it is bad.

This time however, well I am still waiting for the portal to be closed.
hasnīt happened so far.
Well, I am certainly not complaining. lol

posted March 10, 2014 03:54 AM            

" Well, I found the best Soulmate Aspect, Pluto trine Venus exact, in Air Signs here. And this makes a Grand Trine with
Jupiter in 11 Gemini. Does not get better than this, a perfect intellectual Soulmate Relationship in youor highest
state now or in your next incarnations together has been
indicated.

Next,
I am seeing. Helio Composite JUNO in Pleaides, trine Mars
exact. Mars trine JUNO is a very explicitly sexual aspect.
The future could be happily kinky because Helio Composite
LUST and Uranus are conjunct exact "

In the analysis (Moon and Saturn Shift charts and helio composite) IQ concluded this:

"My conclusion from this is that he is the Karmic Soul mate with whom you have had the maximum sexual karma and maximum emotional love. He could be your Twin Flame (or the route to your Twin Flame), there are more possibilities with him than even with Jude, in spite of the harsh aspects and abuse aspects."

(A lot of Nessus-Saturn coming up )

posted March 10, 2014 04:23 AM              

I watched the Oscars and they showed a short video of River Phoenix (he passed away). Back then I didn't know who he was. It was just one glance of him as a teen actor, and then I went crazy looking up who he was on the internet. I just realise his placements is close to someone i know.

posted March 10, 2014 05:21 AM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Am i an oddball? I never find Jude Law attractive.

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Neither did I. That is what made me going so crazy about why he would be haunting my mind suddenly, despite me not even feeling attracted to him.

posted March 10, 2014 08:33 AM            

"However I think if they are exact (under one degree) and making a harmonic triangle,t hey are a pattern that might be stronger than an isolated wideorbed square or trine.
Especially since they resonate with midpoint pictures; they are representing an energetic system, in which the energy can flow, according to the nature of the aspect.

Of the minor aspects I keep an eye on the 5th, 7th, 8th and 9th harmonic.

The 5th (quintile-series) and 7th (septile-series), seem to be complementary, very unique aspects, but the 5th is more outgoing, outwardly expressive, brimming with energy, while the 7th is much more subtle and internalized."

Yes, I do like the quintiles, but I don't think I actually see a "pattern."

In our tropical composite we have mercury quintile neptune and our NN/psyche conjunction quintiles Juno.

That conjunction also makes up a base of a Yod sextiling neptune with Valentine at the apex.

posted March 10, 2014 08:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
As for the helio composite IQ wrote this:

" Well, I found the best Soulmate Aspect, Pluto trine Venus exact, in Air Signs here. And this makes a Grand Trine with
Jupiter in 11 Gemini. Does not get better than this, a perfect intellectual Soulmate Relationship in youor highest
state now or in your next incarnations together has been
indicated.

Next,
I am seeing. Helio Composite JUNO in Pleaides, trine Mars
exact. Mars trine JUNO is a very explicitly sexual aspect.
The future could be happily kinky because Helio Composite
LUST and Uranus are conjunct exact "

In the analysis (Moon and Saturn Shift charts and helio composite) IQ concluded this:

"My conclusion from this is that he is the Karmic Soul mate with whom you have had the maximum sexual karma and maximum emotional love. He could be your Twin Flame (or the route to your Twin Flame), there are more possibilities with him than even with Jude, in spite of the harsh aspects and abuse aspects."

(A lot of Nessus-Saturn coming up )

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posted March 10, 2014 12:45 PM              

There was a notable Valentine-Neptune-Atlantis conjunction.

Sabian for valentine: Moonlit Fields, Once Babylon, Are Blooming White

Ceridwen, does it mean drowning in atlantis ? u seem to have it in your chart. Or does neptune mean something else when in conjunct with atlantis?

posted March 10, 2014 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Maybe he has more research/statistics now? I dunno. Didn't he confirm for both you and Lavender "definite TF's?"

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He did. Sort of. I'd have to track down exactly what he'd said regarding Lavender and Virgo Artist (heh), but he was strangely definitive with me.

And there's something about that reply, tgem, of which I'm to take serious note.

My Mail app didn't download it properly; simply as 01/01/1969 with no content - at FIRST. So, I didn't simply archive / delete the bulk notifications as I tend to. I paid attention to the one that came in right then.

posted March 10, 2014 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:

Ceridwen, does it mean drowning in atlantis ? u seem to have it in your chart. Or does neptune mean something else when in conjunct with atlantis?

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Maybe Neptune can also have another meaning, some spiritual meaning.
In my case Poseidon is also conjunct Atlantis, ASC, Neptune. And Poseidon is of course connected to Atlantis, too.
Plus I have Varuna right on the DSC, opposing the batch on the ASC, so there are several strikes there for me.

However, it is also family-history/ family-karma. Drowning or almost drowning being a prevalent theme. I drowned myself, but was rescued in the nick of time (I suppose it can be helpful having ANGEL exactly aligned with ASC and Poseidon and just one degree off Atlantis. lol).

So, there were two observations; first of all this family-history-theme with the drowning. and secondly the fact that ALL close family members (my parents, both brothers and me) have angular Atlantis, Varuna in dynamic aspect with a luminary, and for my youngest brother and me the Neptune-Nodal-angle connection as well.

So thsi brought me to the conclusion in my family`s case. But of course that doesn`t mean that everyone with Neptune conjunct Atlantis will have drowned. Though I wouldn`t be surprised if they at least witnessed the tragedy in a past life.

BTW my Neptune is on ANTARES, too, which I think is significant, as it is one of the more dramatic fixed stars.

However, the Sabian you mentioned, personally I love it. But it is the 29-30 Aquarius, right? I think I have read another description of this as well.

IQ once described this as sacred Sabian.

"29 Aquarius, the sacred Sabian degree denoting metamorphosis and enlightenment from a collective of enlightened Souls"

(though it can also be testing).

With Valentine there it is certainly interesting, maybe also indicative of love coming from a past life in Babylon?

posted March 10, 2014 03:17 PM            

Karma, Destinn
Union, Boda
Ceres, Angel
Amor, Psyche
Eros, Lust
Juno, Valentine

By putting them into the boxes, and printing out the tropical, Draconic (and heliocentric) synastry, I noticed something VERY interesting in terms of Draconic-tropical synastry there.
Too interesting to be a coincidence. I need to delve into this some more.

Well, natally Mr Sag and me both have an exact LUST-ANGEL-conjunction. His on 6 Scorpio (0°28), mine on 7 Sagitarius (0°12).

Mine is also exactly conjunct my ASC; his is not configured with his ASC though.

However, my LUST/ANGEL-conjunction squares my RUDRA. His conjuncts his RUDRA by one degree.

my LUST/ANGEL conjuncts HIS KAALI. (0°57/ 0°44)
his LUST/ANGEL sextiles my RUDRA. (1°53/ 1°25)

(always always the Kaali-Rudra-connection coming up, thouigh this was not even what I wanted to point out. lol)

Anyway, my Draco Moon is conjunct my tropical DESC exactly (0°05)
his Draco Moon is trine his tropical ASC (1°29)
his Draco Sun is trine his tropical ASC even more closely (0°03)

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Now synastrically:

my Dr ANGEL/LUST conjunct his tropical ASC
(1°44/ 1°56)
my Dr ANGEL/LUST trine his Draco Moon
(0°05/ 0°17)

his Dr ANGEL/LUST conjunct my tropical DESC
(1°35/ 2°03)

his DR ANGEL / LUST conjunct my Draco Moon
(1°30/ 1°58)

All neatly under 2 degree, also. Quite a theme there.

posted March 10, 2014 03:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Just been deciding this afternoon which asteroids should wander into my general-box.
Ended up with

Karma, Destinn
Union, Boda
Ceres, Angel
Amor, Psyche
Eros, Lust
Juno, Valentine

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Out of my head, Ceri.

posted March 10, 2014 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

I think that hurts too much, that realisation hitting me in the face EVERY time he talks to me. The way he can't seem to speak to me in a tone he does with everyone else. How it's always strangely intimate, even flirtatious.

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I strongly reacted to this, cause I noticed that, too.Something weird, when he talks to me.

You know how Sags are. Loud. Extrovert. Temperamental. Brash. Blunt.

He is all that. Just not with me (except for some rare "slips" lol).

But the times we talked, I was kinda stunned at how different he was speaking with me. I donīt know. His tone somehow soft, gentle, respectful (?), I donīt know, not in a detached way, but just more careful; made me almost feel like I was something fragile, or some shy deer he tried to not scare away by speaking softer.
lol

I still havenīt figured out if that is a good sign or a VERY bad one. lol

However, the fact that when he is speaking to me, he speaks in a tone that seems to be just above a whisper, or at least with lowered voice, it does strange things to my entrails.
His loud voice I can deal with perfectly and makes me smile with all the jokes and Sagittarianness.
But this calm and gentle tone just hits me right into my solar plexus, as you said, it feels strangely intimate, and it makes me feel totally defenceless.

posted March 10, 2014 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
I could have written this myself...And that warm golden/glowing light you speak of...it's been my experience too, and only with him....

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posted March 10, 2014 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

The Sun keeps flirting with Chiron, which I'm sure isn't helping. Is 11°-16° Pisces significant for you, tgem?

:hugs:

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It is for us actually.

posted March 10, 2014 04:04 PM            

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
the weight loss, the (sever) digestive issues....all of that. .

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I did not mention it, but yes, during these digestive trouble times I lost quite a bit of weight, but it was for the wrong reasons, so I put it all on again.

Funnily he has always been very chubby himself (Especially for a performer), and we incidentally, independently of each other of course, decided at about the same time (between september and november 2012) to lose weight.
And we both did.

Me more than him untiln ow, jsut becuase I NEED to shed more weight than he did.
And I think neither of us has ever looked better before. lol

It was just, I was really floored, when I was on that concert just a bit over a week after I decided to lose weight and started with the WEight Wathcers, and on that concert he mentioned him being totally adamant about losing weight, too.
Waht a coincidence, hu?

posted March 10, 2014 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:

Tropical synastry:
His Ceres conjunct my IC and NN
My Ceres conjunct his sun

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GOOSEBUMPS-

His Cereis is conjunct my IC as well. lol

It is also trine my ASC-Angel-Lust exact (and opposite my Pluto and square my Venus, but we are not going to talk about this. lol)

Oh of course conjuncts my Aura as well.

my ceres is natally only 2 degrees off my Jupiter, and closely conjunct his Eros, which is an aspect I totally drool about, though I can`t quite grasp it. lol
Also conjuncts my name in his Chart, opposes his Mars-Jupiter-Amor, sextils his chiron exact. And probably some other things. lol