posted March 12, 2014 08:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sadly I cannot see your indigo heart though.

BTW I find it interesting how my Mum has an almost Isis-Osiris-conjunction and in my natal there is an exact Isis-Osiris-conjunction.

Her helio Osiris is on 13 Sagittarius, which I find interesting because of the Sabian (the Sphinx-one).

Anyway so after asessing their natal resonance with soulmate-pairings, I was first checking if there was a synastric aspect including the already emphasized pairings (Pluto-Proserpina/Persephone, Isis-Osiris, Siva-Parvati) AND if it was tied to something significant, especially angles.

EVen though this is as VERY specific scenario, and thus I did not really expect to find too much, I found this with an orb of under 2 degree of course:

(1) her ISIS opposite his OSIRIS;

with his OSIRIS being on 28-29 Taurus, and therefore ALMOST on the Pleiades (OSIRIS conj. ALCYONE in his chart: 1°05)

her AVX conjunct his OSIRIS exact

(2) her PERSEPHONE trine his PLUTO
(and her PROSERPINA conjunct his PLUTO loosely, but this one is over 4 degrees)

his PERSEPHONE conjunct her DESC exact, and opposite her ASC.

Her ASC is conjunct Uranus conjunct ANUBIS, all within one degree orb of SIRUS
And let`s not forget her ATLANTIS is on her DESC exactly, and therefore conjunctgs my Dad`s PERSEPHONE

Sabian of her ATlantis-DESC
A Fire Worshipper Meditates On The Ultimate Realities Of Existence

my Dad`s Persephone
An Ancient Bas-Relief Carved In Granite Remains A Witness To A Long-Forgotten Culture

(3) her RUDRA square his PARVATI (and SIVA)

her RUDRA conjunct his PLUTO exact, too
"A Chemist Conducts An Experiment For His Students"

her RUDRA also trines his SPIRIT-CHIRON-conjunction in Sag, exact

her Vertex conjunct his KAALI exact (the same that was already triggered by the Isis-Osiris-connection)

her SIVA is conjunct hsi Sun on 5 Aquarius exact, too

"A Masked Figure Performs Ritualistic Acts In A Mystery Play"

With her DESTINN being conjunct on 6 Aquarius
"A Child Is Seen Being Born Out Of An Egg"

With his ALMA being opposite from 6 Leo
"The Constellations Of Stars Shine Brilliantly In The Night Sky"

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posted March 12, 2014 08:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Get better and well, you two.

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posted March 12, 2014 10:43 AM            

I don't know what it is about being SO open about all of this here, but it seems to have triggered a LOT. The sleeplessness (from once again trying to figure this all out) triggered the migraine. Trying to sleep off the migraine put me in an odd almost-dream state. I'm not sure if I was getting messages from my unconscious/subconscious or simply thinking thoughts I wanted to hear. Jace has been very much present. And frankly, I'm back to that very much in my face twixt-and-tween. It isn't comfortable.

That's the thing about this journey. It just doesn't FIT. ANYTHING. What do you DO with so many odd occurrences except try to accept them and move on? And yet, the moving on is so difficult.

Indigo, I'm happy you received confirmation from iQ that Fate is your TF. You all have the astrology to back up these experiences. I don't. All I have is the entire array of experiences, ALL of which are mentioned in iQ's list, bar the spot on the finger. (But that supposedly follows "mating" and that hasn't taken place, other than on the astral plane.)

Yes, I'll probably ask iQ to do the charts at some point, even as I ask myself why. The soulmate pairings aren't there. Again, all I have are all of those "telling" experiences.

Jace lives at the edges of my consciousness, always. I have to accept that he isn't going to go away. (The tears are coming up AGAIN. God.) Right now, I'm questioning how fair it is to date someone, to have feelings develop on both sides, with this heart-stringed ghost lingering, always with me. I feel damned if I do and damned if I don't. This whole thing feels so grossly unfair. I want to scream at Destiny, "WHY? WHY put me through this, when clearly the odds are just not there?". And then I have to remind myself that I signed on for this one, on the Other Side. My soul knew. I'd give just about anything to know here *what* my soul knew there.

The blind date went well. Very well. Although he seems to be somewhat irregular about contact, but that may just be him being Sag. I don't know. What I do know is this.

I'm 54. Divorced except for the Court's stamp of approval. My daughter is out of the nest, away at college, growing up into her own destiny. My TF is married. Even if he wasn't, he lives in a social strata that isn't mine. Frankly, I'm too young to live out the rest of my life "waiting". (The picture this conjures up is of a young girl sitting by the phone, waiting for the boy to call. Waiting.) Am I tempted? Yes. I WANT the extraordinary union promised by these extraordinary signs. But I'm also lonely. And well-aware that in this big bad world, very few people actually come out and say they're lonely. "Bored" is usually the socially-acceptable substitute word. Will I settle? I hope not. But is settling really the right word when your TF is taken? Not available? And beyond that, unawakened?

Tgem, we share this one, this pain. Of not even having the choice given to us because of unavailability.

I don't know. I just don't know.

My head is doing its thing again and I need some ice. Please know this, and it truly comes from my HEART, I feel FOR you and WITH you. I so honor every word, every feeling, that you share. Once again, I'm far too behind to be able to respond to the pieces of the conversation that spoke to me, from and with each of you. All I can do at this point, from this amount of physical pain, is to say I hear you. Thank you for sharing.

Bless you all.

posted March 12, 2014 12:05 PM            

HOwever as for the pairings; yes we focused very much on the four on the first page, however, there are some others, that are very prominent as well.

By IQ

"My Top 6 Soulmate Pairs, * indicating power.

***** EROS-PSYCHE
***** Pluto-PROSERPINA
*** ZEUS-HERA
*** Jupiter-JUNO
*** OSIRIS-ISIS
** ADONIS-INNANEN

7th for Tantrik soulmates:
** SIVA-KAALI"
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000225.html

And from a newer thread on Jupiter-Juno as soulmate pairing:

"Indeed, this is a very useful Soulmate Aspect, almost as important as EROS-PSYCHE, Pluto-PROSERPINE and ISIS-OSIRIS. A shade more useful than SIVA-PARAVTI, ZEUS-HERA, RUDRA-KAALI, BRIEDE-GROOM and ADONIS-INNANEN." http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001635.html

Personally I also add ISHTAR to ADONIS, cause she was his Babylonian consort; INANNEN is relating to INANNA; which was possibly older than ISHTAR, which IT hink is the reason IQ uses it. However Inannen is actually some other person, but the asteroid still seems to work reliably in pairings.

I also add ARIADNE to DIONYSOS or BACCHUS to this, especially for those among us who have already suffered from love before and being deserted. That is why I call it the "soulmate of a second chance".

I find it works pretty reliably, and comes up more often than I would have expected (I don`t use BRIEDE and GROOM anymore though, maybe I should start again. lol).

From another of IQ`s threads:

"Here are the most common features:

1. Packed Composite 7th

2. Exact Ascendant or Dsc aspect to Sun, Moon, Asc, Dsc, Venus or Karma. Some had multiple Asc/Dsc aspects within 2 degrees orb.

3. Very strong Valentine aspects

4. 2 or more Soulmate Pair Asteroids had aspects within 1 degree orb. Isis-Osiris was most common, Pluto-Persephone se"cond, Siva-Kaali third.

5. Plenty of Draconic Chart Synastry Aspects between personal planets and Saturn."
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211018.html

posted March 12, 2014 12:22 PM            

under 2 degrees
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your Pluto sextile his Venus
- yes I very much count Sun/Moon and Venus/Pluto still

your Adonis sextile his Ishtar
your Adonis quinkunx his Inannen

notable mentionings
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your Jupiter conjunct his Juno at 4 degrees

your Ariadne conjunct his BAcchus (3,5)
your Dionysos conjunct his Ariadne (2-3)
your Parvati conjunct his Siva (2-3)

the orbs might be a bit more loosely here, but at least the orb up to 3 degrees is very much valid, ESPECIALLY for a conjunction.

I think it is lovely that you have a DW with the Ariadne - Dionysos/Bacchus-pairing as a conjunction.

I have not checked linked pairings (something like his Aura conjunct your Ariadne and your Aura trine his BAcchus for example), it might be that there are some there, making aspects with tighter orbs and of course interlinking the soulmate pairings even stronger spiritually to each other.

I noticed something like that happening with Mr SAg and me.

his ISIS is already quinkunx my OSIRIS (1,5 degrees) (and his DRaconic ISIS conjuncts my tropical ISIS-OSIRIS_conjunction exact).

However his ANGEL is also sextile my ISIS-OSIRIS, while my ANGEL is trine his OSIRIS and opposite his ISIS.

Plus his ISIS-OSIRIS is angular in my chart.
his OSIRIS conjuncts my IC exactly, his ISIS conjuncts my SN exactly and conjuncts my DESC with an orb of 2-3 degrees.

On top of it we have an exact ISIS-OSIRIS-conjunction in Davison.

Another linked pairing would be,
his AURA trine my SIVA, my AURA trine his KAALI - again, angular in my chart (I bring it out in him. LOL) his KAALI on my ASC, my AURA on my IC.

my SIVA is not angular in his chart, but interesting enough in his own chart KAALI is at the end of his 8th house, and my SIVA conjuncts his 8th house cusp.

We also have a DW of DESTINN with the ASC-DESC. His DESTINN trines my DESC exact; my DESTINN trines his ASC.

That - and funnily we have this line up of karmic/fated objects in the 7th house of composite.

KARMA; Saturn, VERTEX, DESTINN all there in 7th house, in Leo.
Puzzling, right?
What are they doing there? What message do they try to deliver to me?

posted March 12, 2014 01:28 PM            

He went back to the beginning of my Timeline, up to when we became FB Friends, and un-Liked everything. I'm guessing just as soon as the option became available. Sometime between 2012 and now.

Wow, he hates me.

posted March 12, 2014 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Jesus.

He went back to the beginning of my Timeline, up to when we became FB Friends, and un-Liked everything. I'm guessing just as soon as the option became available. Sometime between 2012 and now.

Wow, he hates me.

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Or he's reacting to something, perhaps even on a psychic level. Another level of running maybe? Hang in there, Indigo. This too shall pass. Even this rollercoaster. Somehow.

posted March 12, 2014 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by micole maree:
Or he's reacting to something, perhaps even on a psychic level. Another level of running maybe? Hang in there, Indigo. This too shall pass. Even this rollercoaster. Somehow.

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I can only imagine he did that last year, when I stopped taking his calls completely, and would only respond in email. I just know that, back earlier in 2013, (because, on a particularly emotional day, I went and checked my posts in December 2009 - January 2011), my heart broke all over again to see how much he'd Liked and commented everything up until then - his 25th birthday, when I became engaged.

Now ... it's like he was never there.

No. THAT's intentional. THAT's on the off-chance I DID happen to review things for some reason, I'd notice.

Oh. Jesus. He's SO angry with me. Even now. And, I swear, there's nothing I can do. Because it's a cold, silent, secret anger.

Doesn't help this has been in my head since last night.

http://youtu.be/k8mtXwtapX4

There's quite a story behind the song, too, 'Falling Slowly'. But I've never been able to get over how much the timbre of his and Hansard's voices are so similar. I want so much for him to demo this with me. Maybe he will. Heh. Maybe. If he can quit hating me for a moment.

Sigh.

posted March 12, 2014 01:52 PM            

I just spent what feels like forever, checking charts and responding to your posts, Ceri. And hit some blamed button and it's all gone.

I'll have to come back later and try to recreate all of these aspects.

DANG it.

But I do want to repeat this now. I'm truly touched that you took the time to look at our charts. Thank you. You found things I hadn't yet gotten to because of my lack of a printer and how brain-draining it is to do this from going back and forth from screen to screen.

We actually have a soulmate pairing? Well. Wonders never cease. Just about everything has been out of orb or just plain not even close to being in any kind of aspect.

I'll be back late tonight after my day is done.

posted March 12, 2014 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I can only imagine he did that last year, when I stopped taking his calls completely, and would only respond in email. I just know that, back earlier in 2013, (because, on a particularly emotional day, I went and checked my posts in December 2009 - January 2011), my heart broke all over again to see how much he'd Liked and commented everything up until then - his 25th birthday, when I became engaged.

Now ... it's like he was never there.

No. THAT's intentional. THAT's on the off-chance I DID happen to review things for some reason, I'd notice.

Oh. Jesus. He's SO angry with me. Even now. And, I swear, there's nothing I can do. Because it's a cold, silent, secret anger.

Doesn't help this has been in my head since last night.

http://youtu.be/k8mtXwtapX4

There's quite a story behind the song, too, 'Falling Slowly'. But I've never been able to get over how much the timbre of his and Hansard's voices are so similar. I want so much for him to demo this with me. Maybe he will. Heh. Maybe. If he can quit hating me for a moment.

Sigh.

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Indigo, I have to leave so I can't check back here until tonight.

Did something happen between you two that might have triggered this? You've been pretty open here; I don't remember you saying there had been an exchange between you or anything else recently.

One thing I try to do, no matter what, is to send love. For me, I get quiet (meditative) and visualize that as direct light from both my third eye and heart chakra - white, golden and rose. (Don't ask me why those colors; it was instinctive the first time I was awakened by his deep emotional pain about three and a half years ago.) And I just visualize healing going straight to his own third eye and heart.

It's important to remember how energetic (as in made of energy) we all are and that that is how we receive and transmit, even when we're not aware of doing so. Maybe you can calm some of this down.

I've got to run now. Take care of you.

posted March 12, 2014 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by micole maree:
Indigo, I have to leave so I can't check back here until tonight.

Did something happen between you two that might have triggered this? You've been pretty open here; I don't remember you saying there had been an exchange between you or anything else recently.

One thing I try to do, no matter what, is to send love. For me, I get quiet (meditative) and visualize that as direct light from both my third eye and heart chakra - white, golden and rose. (Don't ask me why those colors; it was instinctive the first time I was awakened by his deep emotional pain about three and a half years ago.) And I just visualize healing going straight to his own third eye and heart.

It's important to remember how energetic (as in made of energy) we all are and that that is how we receive and transmit, even when we're not aware of doing so. Maybe you can calm some of this down.

I've got to run now. Take care of you.

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Oh, I will. I'm catching up after my three-day migraine hell, too. So, YOU rest up as well. I'm sure you're in the postdrome exhaustion, too.

I was just shocked to see that, that's all. It takes time to un-Like everything you've Liked.

Recently ... well ....

The complete nutso crazy explanation is that he had slept with her that night, and, either it was dissatisfying, or she's getting early-twenties-clingy, (double Cancer, let's not forget here), or something - because why the hell he called me the next day, AND a few days after that, AND twice on Monday is way beyond me.

But why would he be angry?

She, like all of the others, are not measuring up to the internal standards in his head. That, or she's also silently pushing for a relationship, which is the no-go territory with him.

Sigh. Except once. With me. But that was a long time ago.

He'd be angry with me again for not answering, coupled with his poor personal life. He's growing up. Hell, he's examining his spiritual beliefs. He's going to be 30, (which, I recall, was a big deal, :wink he has no one, and he doesn't seem to want them, either. I think it's frustrated.

He doesn't want to be, so he returns to his favourite fall-back that I ruined his life. Now the hate is cold, silent, and external.

So WTF is he still calling me? He misses me. Period. He still hasn't found that connexion anywhere else, and he HATES that. In turn, he hates ME for it.

He's a Draconic SCO SUN with LIB MOON, incidentally. Yeah. The reverse of my Tropical. It's all in early degrees, but his DR-MOON conjuncts our JUNOs.

His TR-SUN dwad is also SCO.

For a SAG, he can be extremely vengeful, jealous, manipulative, and obsessive. Probably doesn't help how much I hit his EROS/PSYCHE.

So. Reader's Digest version? He hates me.

And, on that note, here's some more Will and Mac. It's too apropos.

http://youtu.be/ZcLgly0Etv4

Yeah. It's just like that. That's all. Nooo big deal. See how everyone keeps a cool head until it gets ridiculous? Yep.

Sigh. Yep.

posted March 12, 2014 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I can only imagine he did that last year, when I stopped taking his calls completely, and would only respond in email. I just know that, back earlier in 2013, (because, on a particularly emotional day, I went and checked my posts in December 2009 - January 2011), my heart broke all over again to see how much he'd Liked and commented everything up until then - his 25th birthday, when I became engaged.

Now ... it's like he was never there.

No. THAT's intentional. THAT's on the off-chance I DID happen to review things for some reason, I'd notice.

Oh. Jesus. He's SO angry with me. Even now. And, I swear, there's nothing I can do. Because it's a cold, silent, secret anger.

Doesn't help this has been in my head since last night.

http://youtu.be/k8mtXwtapX4

There's quite a story behind the song, too, 'Falling Slowly'. But I've never been able to get over how much the timbre of his and Hansard's voices are so similar. I want so much for him to demo this with me. Maybe he will. Heh. Maybe. If he can quit hating me for a moment.

Sigh.

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No, no, no. Mr Sag is OBSESSED with this song!
He even put it on his solo CD.

I remember the first time I went to a solo concert of his, just after we bumped into each other on the stairs, he would start raving about that film "Once", asking if we had seen it and if not that we NEED to see it, and I was feeling SO uncomfortable, cause did he really have to pick this moment to rest his eyes on me?
Too close, much too close, in 2010.

He was also playing "Say it to me now" on that concert.

"I'm scratching at the surface now
And I'm trying hard to work it out
So much has gone misunderstood
This mystery only leads to doubt
And I didn't understand
When you reached out to take my hand
And if you have something to say
You'd better say it now

Cause this is what you've waited for
Your chance to even up the score
And as these shadows fall on me now
I will somehow

Cause I'm picking up a message Lord
And I'm closer than I've ever been before

So if you have something to say
Say it to me now
Say it to me now
Say it to me now"

It felt so, I don`t know, PERSONAL. And yet my brain new it could not be personal, not between us. Heck there was no US. I had been talking to him once, that had been 2 years before, and since then I had not even shown my face!

Needless to say, Ididn`T say anything. WEll it probably was not meant personal either, but it just felt like it. this 27th july 2010 something certainly shifted.

It was a concert in a small tavern, maybe 70 guests, and apparently he wasn`t tired after playing for more than 2 hours but said he would continue playing some more after that break, and everyone was invited to stay and join his little "jam session".

Well, I had ordered a cab before, for hte end of the concert, and of course I couldn`t tell the cab driver that I would like to stay, right? I couldn`t order it for a later time, right?
I HAD to leave, right?
I had to leave, no RUN out of there as if the devil himself was after me. LOL
There COULD have been a chance for a connection, and that couldn`t be, not that night. I was totally chickening out right there, AGAIN.

From that day on, I think he never played "Say it to me now" again, but "Falling Slowly" became a constant companion, except for the period when he was breaking up with his gf, then somehow he forgot about that film, he apparently loves so much, and that means such a lot to him.

And everytime now he is performing "Falling Slowly" on stage, and even though he msot of the times does it as a duet, he still mentions to direct his gaze on me.
And everytime since then it just ******* breaks my heart.
Because it can`t MEAN anything, but it is so, so hard to resist the temptation to think that it might, or at least that it one time actually had meant something, even if I was too scared or too dumb to get it.

posted March 12, 2014 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
From that day on, I think he never played "Say it to me now" again, but "Falling Slowly" became a constant companion, except for the period when he was breaking up with his gf, then somehow he forgot about that film, he apparently loves so much, and that means such a lot to him.

And everytime now he is performing "Falling Slowly" on stage, and even though he msot of the times does it as a duet, he still mentions to direct his gaze on me.
And everytime since then it just ******* breaks my heart.
Because it can`t MEAN anything, but it is so, so hard to resist the temptation to think that it might, or at least that it one time actually had meant something, even if I was too scared or too dumb to get it.

Ah sorry Indigo, I did not want to get into this again, but you mentioned the song. lol
I am sorry that he did that to you, but yes, I also believe, it shows that something shifts inside, moves. And he might try to take counter-measures cause the inner spiritual pressure, the pull towards you is getting so much stronger now.

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:hugs: No, no, I'm right there with you. It was early 2008 that I discovered it; my '87 soul-brother had introduced it to me, and I was just so lost and confused. But that song ... it held me so tightly within its grasp. Early 2008 was when things were progressing with Fate, but then that summer ... it was so ... hopeful. So genuinely hopeful. I could've never described the man as giddy, but he was positively so that night he'd told me he was laying over in two months .... I can tell he was hopeful, too. He thought it'd all end / begin then. And, I'm sure he knew that I couldn't be angry with him. ******* .

I've played the meeting that never happened out in my head many times. It's always the same, though. You remember the scene at the end of 'You've Got Mail' where she kinda wants to hit him, but is also tearful and grateful? I can empathise. He was counting on my simply being grateful, and relieved, and SO glad that that was over, and ...

... and it just never happened. Well, it never happened here.

In 2012, that song became a big deal, too, as my niece went to see 'Once', and someone posted a Broadway cast recording, and ...

I still fall apart. Heh.

posted March 12, 2014 03:27 PM            

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posted March 12, 2014 03:48 PM            

Simple enough.

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posted March 12, 2014 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
I would be very interested to hear if they encountered/experienced other "non-astrological" symptoms of TF's...

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My parents are very non-esoteric people (though not un-spiritual, but their spirituality is sort of the earthy kind, hard to explain. lol), so they wouldn`t use the words.

I think their meeting was pretty fated and maybe karmic at least. Their original families had only lived 20 kilometres away from each other,w ithout knowing each other. Actually they probably would not have gotten closer together, for the social differences. My Dad coming from a pheasant`s family, my mum from business-background (ctually parts of her family had been quite wealthy and possibly had links to some aristocrats).

But during the 2nd world war both families were driven away, or had to escape, and curiously my grandparents ended up living in cities only 20 kilometres from each other again (the generation before actually ended up in Mr Sag`s hometown, so there is this link, too. lol).

The difference being that now there were no such social distinctions anymore, war had made the families equally poor and unwelcome here. lol

However, my parents met in a discotheque. Just maybe 2 years after my Mum`s mother had died, and there was a lot of chaos in my Dad`s family, as the Spanish wife of his cousin had to be hospitalized in the end, for repeated attacks on my grandmother (one with a poking stick).

Anyway, so my parents met in this dicotheque, and as my mother recounts, pretty much left it immediately (it was too loud there. lol) and spent the night outside, talking about the Vietnam war and discussing politics and life-stuff. (luckily she was quiet about what else might have taken place in that car. lol)

I am not sure if my Dad still was engaged, or had just left his engagement, but I know that my mom quickly left her boyfriend of that time, and from day one her and my Dad have been inseparable.

From my childhood I recall, that even though they loved discussing, they never argued. (and usually would switch off the TV, cause they found each other`s presence and talking with each other more interesting).
And they wouuld always touch, and nudge and hug and kiss and stuff. It was yucky. Well for a kid at least. lol

In my eyes they have always been an unit, and curiously, their families as well. I know of other people where there was so much differences between Mum`s and Dad`s family. In their case, it was all one family. I did not even notice this was unusual until I was older.

Well, they had their "mission" I suppose, when my brother ws born with the Down syndrome, and they went on founding and cofounding some organizations helping people with mental handicap, and still do.

And they are still spending pretty much every waking minute with each other. My mom sometimes complains about it, but not really. The hardest time they had to see through, was when my Dad was transferred to another city, because of his job. It was only for 6 or 8 weeks, nd he drove every friday home to be with us for the weekend (the other city was about 800-1000 km away), but still my mom hated it, you could feel it, and my Dad hated it, too.

I donīt know if that makes them twinflames.
I suppose it does make them true relationship soulmates though,w ith a lot of genuine love for each other.

actually on their 25th anniversary, my Dad (who is not really talking that much about feelings) said that he was still as much in love with my Mum as he was on the day they got married (and yes he said "in love" lol).

And the amazing thing is, that everyone in this room knew he was telling the truth.

They do have their occasional spats of course (Aquarius-male and Scorpio-female, what do you expect?), but there has never been any game playing that I know of. Always honesty and respect.

Differences of opinion? YES.
But never wanting to personally hurt each other.
If htat had happened, they would not have worked as a couple.
If there had been manipulation, game playing, powertrips like this, they would have crashed and burned totally.

Luckily none of it took place. And so they are just in preparations for their honeymoon-revival-trip in may (40 years of marriage), and they just came back from a trip. lol

Oh and I am pretty sure, IF they separated, there would be noone else in their lives.
It was the same with my maternal grandfather though, after his wife died, so did any kind of romantic or relational life. There could never have been another woman to replace my grandmother. And he was not even 50 years old, but that was just as it was. It had been her for him, and him for her, and noone else. Period.

posted March 12, 2014 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
It's just gonna have to be sig-based.

Simple enough.

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posted March 12, 2014 06:19 PM            

Today, I woke up ridiculously sore. Really. I got out of bed and wondered what gym I attended in my dream, because nothing else even remotely makes sense. I mean, SORE. Workout sore. Like, day-after-workout sore. Mainly my legs, but also my upper biceps. Seriously. WTF.

He hasn't been posting on his FB much, (and, as we know, he hasn't Liked any of my more recent comments) but today he posted this:

'Day 1 of regular gym attendance done.'

Posted yesterday.

posted March 13, 2014 12:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
This synchronicity is to assure you that you are deeply connected. He is your other half, after all. Basically when you long for him, you are longing for yourself. That is all it is. This great attraction is not between two separate entities, it is a need to be whole - a spiritual need, however, it may manifest itself. It is a reflection of how our souls long to be back with source - it is a mere smidgen of that great longing.

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YES. THIS.

I was thinking those very words, "deeply connected" and there you were with them, Astrokeen. And you expressed all of the rest so beautifully.

There's just no fighting it, Indigo. You're feeling what he feels. That telepathic link was activated.

I've never picked up on purely physical sensations such as you're describing, that I know of. But I definitely felt, in my HEART, the deepest pain and longing straight from Jace. I awakened knowing it was him, knowing it was his pain, feeling as though my chest had been broken wide open. And in a way, it had.

The connection is there. I guess our choice is whether to accept it or fight it. I've done both. But bottom-line, even when it feels otherwise, it's a gift. It's rare and precious.

posted March 13, 2014 03:11 AM            

I want to share this; hopefully, get some guidance.

I've been having a look at some upcoming SRs and progressions.

Right now, my 2014 / 2015 SR.

The SR-NNODE will be conjunct my SUN (0.02°!) in my in the SR-12H and sextile my N-NNODE, which is also in my N-12H.

It's also EXACTLY parallel @ 0°00.

I'm not sure what to make of that strange 'double-whammy', but, wow.

Meanwhile, his 2014 SR tosses in the following:

His SR-MOON (13° SAG 16) is opposite my SR-MOON (12° GEM 47).

And, his SR-ASC (04° TAU 15) is opposite my SR-ASC (03° SCO 03).

In other words,

My SR-DSC conjuncts his SR-ASC / his SR-DSC conjunct my SR-ASC @ 1°.11 orb.

AND, check these out:

04° TAU
12°S 31

03° SCO
12°N 55

and

13° SAG
18°S 12

12° GEM
18°N 06

No way this is coincidental.

That's the MOON and ASC being contraparallel at both of our Solar Returns, with SR-ASC / SR-DSC parallel.

If that's not synergy, what is?

Also, SR-MARS (19° SAG 43 ) is sextile my SR-SUN (19° LIB 12).

His SR-MARS (12° AQU 21) is sextile his SR-MOON (13° SAG 16). Because of the placement, it's also conjunct his N-VENUS (13° AQU).

My SR-MARS conjoins my N-NEPTUNE (1°00). It's my 7R.

Perhaps because of his Saturn Return being underway, certain things are returning to their natal positions, or signs. In his case:

SR-EROS: 16° AQU 26
SR-PSYCHE: 28° AQU 07.

Oh, and:

My SR-PSYCHE: 09° AQU 18.
His N-EROS: 10° AQU 13.

... Wow.

His SR-VX is 15° LIB; conjunct his SR-NNODE, 1°.

His SR-7R is exactly conjunct SR-VENUS, too. And, I mean exact:

12° CAP 47. So, SR-VENUS and SR-PLUTO are conjunct at 0°00.

They're also quincunx my SR-MOON.

Again, at 0°00 orb.

Did I mention that both of our SR-MOONs are in SR-8H?

Interestingly, his SR-SUN (28° SAG 53'49) is exactly conjunct his SR-9C (28° SAG 54) which is basically 0°00.

So, in the SR-8H, by the hair of its chinny-chin-chin, but conjunct the SR-9H exactly. A combining of 8H and 9H energies.

Then there's this:

His SR-JUNO: 17° LEO 10 R
His SR-ISIS: 18° LEO 40 R

My N-NNODE: 18° LEO 03
My N-OSIRIS: 18° LEO 40

Really, it's:

18° LEO 40'35 R
18° LEO 40'30

So ...

His SR-ISIS is conjunct my N-OSIRIS @ 0°00.

AND ...

My SR-ISIS: 10° LEO 32
His SR-OSIRIS: 11° LEO 08.

(Conjunct at 0°.75).

With SR-JUNO conjunct @ 1°00, and my N-NNODE @ 0°.50.

Again. ... Wow?

While the mid-LIBRA energy is definitely strong, this caught my eye, too:

My N-INNANEN: 14° LIB 54
His N-INNANEN: 15° LIB 51

Those undoubtedly conjunct his SR-NNODE-SR-VX @ 15° LIB 31 / '17.

No clue what to make of it.

Something else that grabbed me:

His SR-AMOR: 20° SAG 20
My SR-AMOR: 12° LIB 36.

They're both 8° off of our natal SUN placements. I think that's the natal ISIS and OSIRIS angle in our charts, too.

Weird, no?

ISIS and OSIRIS go retrograde, too, sometime after my birthday. They're direct in mine, retro in his SR.

There are other little bits as well:

My SR-EROS (11° CAP 45) is 1°00 conjunct his SR-VENUS/PLUTO.

AND ... in mine?

SR-EROS: 11° CAP 45
SR-PLUTO: 11° CAP 05.

(Wow.)

My SR-JUNO is parallel his SR-NNODE.

His SR-LUST is on his N-JUP and VEGA (18° CAP). My SR-LUST is on his SUN (27° SAG 58) - and the GC.

My SR-KARMA (25° SAG 25) is OOB at 31° S - with his SR-LUST.

Wow. Mind-boggling.

These Solar Returns will be effective from October / December 2014 to October / December 2015.